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[WestCoast1]

That's funny right there, I don't care you you are, that there is funny.

Larry the cable guy?

[Beavis]

Just wait until you are physically in town. The pretty girls hear a million promises every day and know 99.99% is BS. The non pros actually have shit to do and don't need to waste time on every John that propositions them.

"I'm in Ayala. Let's meet for coffee after you finish work" has a much greater response rate than "I'm in Nebraska. Let's hook up if the pandemics stops, if the borders reopen, if I come to PI not LOS, if I call you and not one of the other 100 girls I know, if I get time off work, if I actually buy a ticket and show up".

Enjoy. G.

That's funny right there, I don't care you you are, that there is funny.

[BrizLad]

It does not really work like that. You already have to keep your qualifications up every so often or you can not fly anyway. Most can also be done on the ground in an approved simulator as well. It is not as hard as you think. If you know how to fly then you know how to fly. You only need to obtain a type rating to be able to fly a particular plane over 12,000 pounds because of certain intricacies. The computer mostly flies the plane. And checklists are used to know when to flip which switches.

I assume you are not a commercial airline pilot or a pilot at all? Western airlines have a much higher bar than for someone just to throw a few switches. A pilot without a job is not going to afford simulator time to retain any ratings. As of now, every A380 qualified pilot is un-current on type. It will cost the same to make them current again if they haven't flown for 3,6,18 months, so no need to retain currency. The airlines will be planning this as a start-up cost for bring aircraft and crew back online.

To get this back on topic. I do know there was a Qatar captain that used to jet in / out of Ph and maintain a very pretty girl. She was a former AC freelancer whom he took out of the market. She would post pics pf herself swanning around the globe in business class and major cities. Good for her as a 21 year old. I deleted her from my fb friends as I couldn't compete with that.

[J Janni]

Just wait until you are physically in town. The pretty girls hear a million promises every day and know 99.99% is BS. The non pros actually have shit to do and don't need to waste time on every John that propositions them.

"I'm in Ayala. Let's meet for coffee after you finish work" has a much greater response rate than "I'm in Nebraska. Let's hook up if the pandemics stops, if the borders reopen, if I come to PI not LOS, if I call you and not one of the other 100 girls I know, if I get time off work, if I actually buy a ticket and show up".

Enjoy. G.

I did manage to set my profile showing that I was in Cebu, but they might have been able to see around that. I suspect it's as you say. They grew suspicious after the chitchat back and forth, refusal to give WhatsApp (citing privacy issues) and me not suggesting meeting for a coffee. More than half immediately stopped talking when I wouldn't give them Whatsapp, some of the obvious pros too.

From reading the forum, it would seem the approach with the true non-pros is meeting for a drink close to your accommodation, then moving it there with no discussion of money unless they bring it up. (I have no intention of not 'paying for their taxi' with the going rate, if things go well and they don't ask, which I've read happens or indeed, leading them to believe it's anything more than a STR) Similar strategy as I've used on seeking.com girls in the UK. Don't treat them like working girls, but don't bullshit.

I was more just testing the waters / torturing myself / keeping myself entertained in quarantine. As you say, not worth pursuing until I'm on the ground. Profile was only live for a day or two.

As soon as possible, I'll be there. A place where I can spend the day flirting and trying to get nubile 19 year olds in the sack. And if all else fails, call a seasoned bargirl to my room at 2 am to cum up her arse for a tenner. Sounds like heaven. Fantasy that I'm sure doesn't match the reality exactly. But stuck where I am, nothing else to entertain.

Again, cheers for your help. I'll keep RTFF.

[Goferring]

Couldn't get anywhere with the non-obvious pros....

Just wait until you are physically in town. The pretty girls hear a million promises every day and know 99.99% is BS. The non pros actually have shit to do and don't need to waste time on every John that propositions them.

"I'm in Ayala. Let's meet for coffee after you finish work" has a much greater response rate than "I'm in Nebraska. Let's hook up if the pandemics stops, if the borders reopen, if I come to PI not LOS, if I call you and not one of the other 100 girls I know, if I get time off work, if I actually buy a ticket and show up".

Enjoy. G.

[Dg8787]

It does not really work like that. You already have to keep your qualifications up every so often or you can not fly anyway. Most can also be done on the ground in an approved simulator as well. It is not as hard as you think. If you know how to fly then you know how to fly. You only need to obtain a type rating to be able to fly a particular plane over 12,000 pounds because of certain intricacies. The computer mostly flies the plane. And checklists are used to know when to flip which switches.

They can maintain qualifications by watching YouTube videos. Before someone goes a rant, I am only kidding!

[Mr Enternational]

The smartest thing for these airlines to do is to start recalling crews (both air and ground) and pay them a reduced fair if they have been laid off and get them back up in the air when possible to keep proficiency up, simply to avoid the possible legal actions that may come their way if they find out this accident was caused by lack of training / airtime for the crew.

It does not really work like that. You already have to keep your qualifications up every so often or you can not fly anyway. Most can also be done on the ground in an approved simulator as well. It is not as hard as you think. If you know how to fly then you know how to fly. You only need to obtain a type rating to be able to fly a particular plane over 12,000 pounds because of certain intricacies. The computer mostly flies the plane. And checklists are used to know when to flip which switches.

[Drbombay]

The type of plane that went down within the last 24 hrs is different mechanically and technologically than the plagued "737 Max". The problem is that is part of the "737 family of planes "so all the general public will care about is that it was a "737". Boeing just needs to completely re brand its product line to disassociate from the name carrying the stigma.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-i...-idUSKBN29E0M2

The smartest thing for these airlines to do is to start recalling crews (both air and ground) and pay them a reduced fair if they have been laid off and get them back up in the air when possible to keep proficiency up, simply to avoid the possible legal actions that may come their way if they find out this accident was caused by lack of training / airtime for the crew. Better to blow money that way than to start paying out millions more in lawsuits, that is if one can sue like they do in the USA in some of these places. Better to show that they had some time at least flying in the air if only for practice than not having flown.

[J Janni]

Thanks Kabul, Goferring.

I've had a quick play on PinaLove for research, plenty of interest from the pros and non-pros (or, not as overt pros) as soon as I put up a picture. (Such a handsome guy like me, haha) I'm in my early 30's, white, in shape. But average looking.

Couldn't get anywhere with the non-obvious pros (didn't want to invest too much time, go to Whatsapp or be able to suggest a meet), but the obvious working girls were agreeing to literally anything and everything for less than the price of a pack of cigarettes in the UK.

Times must be pretty tough out there.

[Kabul Guy]

So, I figure I'm better of avoiding Manilla / Angeles / Subic Bay. I hear Cebu City mentioned a lot (and have read reports from there on semi / no pros.) Would anyone recommend somewhere else?...

Best source of non pro's / regular girls is to make friends with local guys. They all have sisters.

[Goferring]

I'd like base myself somewhere with the best chance of cultivating the non and semi pro girls. Not really big on the bar and club / streetwalker scene..

I've found that how you act is far more important than where you are. If you don't like bars and clubs then the answer is simple: don't go there. Assuming you are reasonably presentable and respectful it's not difficult to meet girls and get their numbers in shops, markets, banks etc. Of course there is also online.

All the places you listed have both hard core red light and quieter areas. Just pick those that you prefer. Provincial areas can be much more relaxed but do take some time to settle in and connect with local girls.

Enjoy. G.

[J Janni]

I'm hoping against hope I'll be able to get out to the Philippines at some point this year. Probably more realistically next year. I'd like base myself somewhere with the best chance of cultivating the non and semi pro girls. Not really big on the bar and club / streetwalker scene.

So, I figure I'm better of avoiding Manilla / Angeles / Subic Bay. I hear Cebu City mentioned a lot (and have read reports from there on semi / no pros.) Would anyone recommend somewhere else?

Realize it's bad form to ask for information without contributing. Have experience with mongering in the UK, Middle East, parts of Europe, so will be keeping an eye out and commenting when I can.

[Qeast]

I am so happy I decided to avoid the Boeing 737 family, especially after today's repeat of another 737 crash in Indonesia.

Flying will be interesting when flights start ramping up with previously idle planes maned by idled pilots.

The type of plane that went down within the last 24 hrs is different mechanically and technologically than the plagued "737 Max". The problem is that is part of the "737 family of planes "so all the general public will care about is that it was a "737". Boeing just needs to completely re brand its product line to disassociate from the name carrying the stigma.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-i...-idUSKBN29E0M2

[Bushes]

American cut it's flying by over 50%. Yet they kept about 80% of pilots on payroll. They have more than enough active pilots to cover any possible increase in flying this year. Recalled pilots should plan to be back on the street when CARES 2 runs out (March)..

I am so happy I decided to avoid the Boeing 737 family, especially after today's repeat of another 737 crash in Indonesia.

Flying will be interesting when flights start ramping up with previously idle planes maned by idled pilots.

[SaltyPete]

"But strangely, with the pandemic still limiting air travel to roughly half of what it was a year ago, many of these returning American Airlines employees don't have jobs to perform."

https://amp.star-telegram.com/news/b...248312445.html

American cut it's flying by over 50%. Yet they kept about 80% of pilots on payroll. They have more than enough active pilots to cover any possible increase in flying this year. Recalled pilots should plan to be back on the street when CARES 2 runs out (March).

If AA planned to fly those recalled pilots (who will return as First Officers) they would put an immediate stop to training Captains to be First Officers, and start training some active First Officers to be Captains.

I pray things turn around quickly, but the worse days are still ahead of us.