Makati

[Sammon]

Although these are rare incidents, they do happen and just don't know who it can happen to. Like my post said, my friend did check ID and also no way in hell she was underage or even looked liked a young girl. And also, he was living in a rental and not hotel.

If someone wanted to set up a monger then its sometimes difficult to avoid it. Yes, getting a girl from a bar lowers the chances but its still not zero. Remembering how some underage girls were still caught in the past working at bars with somewhat professional or altered IDs that said they were over 18. Get caught with one of those in your room and its still up shits creek for the monger having taken all the precautions. Just another thing us mongers have to deal with that no normal person has to. It goes with our lifestyle.

Cheers.

This is why I always stay in a nice hotel with security. Yes, I have taken street girls. Security and front desk always check I. The and ask few questions in Tagalog. I heard eleven after all this people got into trouble. But generally those are solved right there with hotel negotiations.

[Sharka]

Although this may be true, I've been to AC 7 times and have never had this happen to me or to others around me. If you are worried, get girls in the bars vs streetwalkers as the girls will be over 18, or just don't go with girls who look really young. A lot of hotels have a policy of checking girls ID anyway and they would see if its fake, and although this seems like a pain it might just save your ass. The hotels don't want trouble in their hotel basically.

Although these are rare incidents, they do happen and just don't know who it can happen to. Like my post said, my friend did check ID and also no way in hell she was underage or even looked liked a young girl. And also, he was living in a rental and not hotel.

If someone wanted to set up a monger then its sometimes difficult to avoid it. Yes, getting a girl from a bar lowers the chances but its still not zero. Remembering how some underage girls were still caught in the past working at bars with somewhat professional or altered IDs that said they were over 18. Get caught with one of those in your room and its still up shits creek for the monger having taken all the precautions. Just another thing us mongers have to deal with that no normal person has to. It goes with our lifestyle.

Cheers.

[Goferring]

Although this may be true, I've been to AC 7 times and have never had this happen to me or to others around me. If you are worried, get girls in the bars vs streetwalkers as the girls will be over 18, or just don't go with girls who look really young. A lot of hotels have a policy of checking girls ID anyway and they would see if its fake, and although this seems like a pain it might just save your ass. The hotels don't want trouble in their hotel basically.

While there are a million stories, it's exceedingly rare for the truly blameless to be involved in an elaborate sting. There is always a backstory. Those that are abusive, idiots or fall out with business partners do however have a high propensity for arrests and drug busts.

The solution is simple: don't do anything stupid and fly below the radar.

Enjoy. G.

[Pussycat123]

There's no more bases in PI, but the overall shit still happens (but maybe not as frequently now).

Although the following didn't happen in Manila, the story is still relevant. I know a punter friend of mine was set up in Angeles. This happen about 4 years ago.

Girl approached him on the street and ask him if he wants company. He asked her for her age and she said 21. He was always the cautious type so even though she looked over 21, he wanted to check her ID. Official ID gave proof of age at 21.

Back to rented apt they went. He didn't even have time to take off his shirt while she sat on the chair taking off her shoes when police came knocking on the door.

Came in and said he was under arrest for having underage girl with him in the apt. He said he didn't do anything but that didn't matter as having an underage girl with a lone man without the girls guardian present was already a serious charge. He said she had ID, but cops took one quick look and said its fake.

Cops said he will be taken to police station and booked. He will spend time in jail until he gets a date with a judge to set bail,(which could take months or years), he will rot in jail until then. He will also have to pay for a lawyer..

Although this may be true, I've been to AC 7 times and have never had this happen to me or to others around me. If you are worried, get girls in the bars vs streetwalkers as the girls will be over 18, or just don't go with girls who look really young. A lot of hotels have a policy of checking girls ID anyway and they would see if its fake, and although this seems like a pain it might just save your ass. The hotels don't want trouble in their hotel basically.

[Sharka]

Someone forgot to tell the Philippinos. 😁.

I think everyone is getting this all wrong.

It is not a "bribe".

I call it either an insurance or a fee.

Insurance because we pay it as a preventive measure to prevent negative outcome.

Or a fee because its a price of doing business. No different than paying our own govt fees and fines to get somethings done or staying out of trouble.

Of course, that only means I hate paying insurance or fees / fines myself.

Just my take on this as bribes are illegal and Those paying a bribe also means they have committed a crime and I know we don't commit crimes as we are all honest mongers.

Wait, isn't honest mongers a contradiction?

Haha, cheers all.

[Goferring]

Someone forgot to tell Trump.

Someone forgot to tell the Philippinos. 😁.

[Stykler]

Good thing this is purely hypothetical as paying a bribe to a government official is against both Philippine and US law..

Someone forgot to tell Trump.

[JohnReter335]

Good thing this is purely hypothetical as paying a bribe to a government official is against both Philippine and US law..

Yeah right.

[Locamotive]

Had a walk down Burgos today as it wasn't too far out of way I was going.

Kojax has been refurbished by the looks of it and called "LIPS". It looked as though they've spent a decent amount on it so hopefully reopening of area in full isn't too far away. Realise this could be a long way off, but people investing in area, even as normal bars, can only be a good thing. Someone was giving food away from back of an SUV today, 99% of people on the street were there, the rest were asleep.

Tickles has also been refurbished, again seems as though some money has been spent. This is purely conjecture on my part, but there is no name above the door, just Pride flags so potentially this is new home for Mixed Nuts. Mixed Nuts location is now what appears to be a Shisha Bar.

Tequileria has been open quite a while now, it appears to have taken some of lettable space from Shampoo. The door for Shampoo was open, looked as though some works have taken place inside.

This could be promising news. Bar owners probably have connections as to when travel will open so they are getting ready. Doubtful they would invest if tourist were years down the road.

[Muttley81]

Had a walk down Burgos today as it wasn't too far out of way I was going.

Kojax has been refurbished by the looks of it and called "LIPS". It looked as though they've spent a decent amount on it so hopefully reopening of area in full isn't too far away. Realise this could be a long way off, but people investing in area, even as normal bars, can only be a good thing. Someone was giving food away from back of an SUV today, 99% of people on the street were there, the rest were asleep.

Tickles has also been refurbished, again seems as though some money has been spent. This is purely conjecture on my part, but there is no name above the door, just Pride flags so potentially this is new home for Mixed Nuts. Mixed Nuts location is now what appears to be a Shisha Bar.

Tequileria has been open quite a while now, it appears to have taken some of lettable space from Shampoo. The door for Shampoo was open, looked as though some works have taken place inside.

[Froggie58]

My first bribe in the country!

Good thing this is purely hypothetical as paying a bribe to a government official is against both Philippine and US law. .

[Drbombay]

Still happens in Thailand. A couple of years ago a buddy of mine was called (retired military, speaks Thai, has lived there 35 years) in the middle of the night to come mediate between a high ranking Thai military guy and a couple of low ranking US Marines. One Marine had met the guy's daughter online and they formed a relationship. And she hooked his buddy up with her friend. Just so happened the girls were 16. They ended up settling for $75,000, which I guess the military paid and will recoup it from the dudes.

Yeah what they will do is pay the fine, and then you owe a debt to the US Treasury. So whenever you expect to get a tax refund or anything from Uncle Sam they will take their cut first. Same thing here in Japan especially if you drive and fall under military jurisdiction. You have to buy an extra liability insurance to pay the "Gomen Nasi (I'm sorry)" to the victim. I once had a minor fender bender with a local national, police came and dude said he was ok, but then complained of shoulder and back pain. So as he was getting ready to be carted off to hospital he slung his backpack over his shoulder and the JN cop told him to take it down while I was still there (I knew enough to figure that out). Long story short, I had to go to police station fill out miles of paperwork get asked how much money I made and dude walked off with the equivalent of $20 K in insurance payouts. The prevailing sentiment by some who live in areas among a lot of military types, better to have auto accidents with them, they pay out more.

[Lost Refugee]

Yep!!

Walking back to my condo one night. Drunk off my ass and having a smoke (have since quit smoking).

Makati policeman walks up and informs me that smoking in the street is a 1,000 peso fine. Gave me 2 options.

1) Allow him to confiscate my passport to ensure I would show up at the courthouse to answer for the smoking in the street.

2) Pay the 1,000 peso "fine" on the spot - "but is no receipt ok?

When I came the first time in the Philippines I had the same thing. After less than 2 hours on the ground, me and my buddy went straight to 7/11 to buy cigarettes and beer. Had no idea that Makati it's non smoking place in the streets! The policeman saw us smoking, he said the fine is 3 k per head and to bring our passports to take our names. After a few minutes of talking he says 1 k the fine per head with no receipt. My first bribe in the country!

[Goferring]

But since he hesitated and he was already out the police station, the girl then raised it to 75,000 p. He had no choice but to pay the blackmail money.

Scam by crooked cops setting up foreigner.

It's standard practice to settle early and with the lowest rungs on the ladder. As your friends found out, dealing with the matter back at the station or with superiors NEVER works in the accused favour. A 50% markup was very fortunate. I've heard of cases where the "fine" has multiplied many times.

Enjoy. G.

[Mr Enternational]

At the time, the common practice was for a Pinoy to claim "You assaulted me" or some type of harassment that resulted in you being reported to Shore Patrol (SP) and then they would default to the natives and take you back to the base, and if you were on a ship place you in what was called "Op Hold" until your case was adjudicated. Normally that meant you were going to pay some type of fine to the aggrieved and let go.

Still happens in Thailand. A couple of years ago a buddy of mine was called (retired military, speaks Thai, has lived there 35 years) in the middle of the night to come mediate between a high ranking Thai military guy and a couple of low ranking US Marines. One Marine had met the guy's daughter online and they formed a relationship. And she hooked his buddy up with her friend. Just so happened the girls were 16. They ended up settling for $75,000, which I guess the military paid and will recoup it from the dudes.