Cartagena Reports

[MarquisdeSade1]

I am guessing all three used the same copy and that is how they are caught.

I'm willing to bet that's what they did LOL.

Or did something genius like used whiteout on printed copies LOL.

[Nounce]

So the story goes that they arrived in Cartagena on Jan 8th (day after mandatory PCR test were required) and somehow (story doesn't say) they were required to quarantine for 14 days upon arrival. They tried to leave on Jan 14th and provided the fake results when leaving Cartagena and got caught. The Colombian gov't changed the rules on the PCR test from Jan 12th to Jan 7th.

Something happened to arrived that caused the mandatory quarantine. 2 things can cause this: Not arriving with your PCR test results (probably didn't know of the date change for PCR test) or taking a test at the Colombian airport and it was positive. Because of the 14 day quarantine, they couldn't leave either unless they had a test saying they were negative. I guess the thing that made it suspicious was that they were trying to leave 6 days after arriving. No way you going to go from positive to negative in 6 days. Yeah that is suspicious, so they called the lab about the results and got caught. They endangered the lives of Colombians by coming in hot (if that's the case), staying and doing god knows what, then trying to roll out. Oh they going to be in some serious trouble. If they do the contact tracing and one of the people they came into contact gets really ill and dies. Shit they may be in Colombia for a long time.

I am guessing all three used the same copy and that is how they are caught.

[Kafka]

Because they are FLAILING. The authorities all around the World (whether they be health officials, governors, presidents, mayors, judges etc) don't really know what to do, but when you have 90% of hospital beds occupied, you have to try something. It's sort of human nature. If you throw enough shit against the wall, it's got to work.

I agree with you 100% I'm not sure any of it has really worked.


And they won't do the most obvious thing and more emergency room capability. That should have been done 6 months ago.

I like this idea from the Israelis. Vaccination passport that will allow you access to certain events and I mean that you don't have to go through all the other protocols....

https://www.timesofisrael.com/vaccin...nts-officials/

[Elvis 2008]

So the story goes that they arrived in Cartagena on Jan 8th (day after mandatory PCR test were required) and somehow (story doesn't say) they were required to quarantine for 14 days upon arrival. They tried to leave on Jan 14th and provided the fake results when leaving Cartagena and got caught. The Colombian gov't changed the rules on the PCR test from Jan 12th to Jan 7th.

UG, I think this is how it goes. I was supposed to go to Colombia on January 11. USA Embassy said no PCR tests required until January 12. As you said rules are changed to January 7. There were two reason I did not go: hassle of getting PCR at the last minute and how much Covid is in Colombia.

If I did go, Colombia would have put me in quarantine, and as I have said before, Colombia does not play around with quarantine.

So you are in Cartagena stuck in a hotel room, you are supposed to get a PCR test done and I have no idea how long this takes. I am sure it is not as expensive as here, but you have to sit around on your ass waiting for the results. If you did not have to wait in some line for hours with a negative result to get out of quarantine, I would be shocked.

Maybe you try to get one and are frustrated and say fuck it, I am going to just buy a negative result and get the hell out of here.

To me, the problem is not how the lab sheet looks but why you did not show that you had a negative test when you came in right? I am not sure whether their fake test was in Spanish or in English.

No way you going to go from positive to negative in 6 days. They endangered the lives of Colombians by coming in hot (if that's the case), staying and doing god knows what, then trying to roll out. Oh they going to be in some serious trouble. If they do the contact tracing and one of the people they came into contact gets really ill and dies. Shit they may be in Colombia for a long time.

I do not see any mention these people had active Covid disease, and I doubt they did.

As someone who almost got caught up in this trap with changing Covid 19 testing requirements, I have some sympathy for them, but I have told people it is stupid to go in with fake test results, and we have had people here say they have done so.

People think lab results like medical records are private, but they are kidding themselves. Any record held by a third party can be obtained by subpoena with a gag order without your knowledge and HIPAA allows for all kinds of government intrusion into your records.

If the lab was called and the lab personnel asked for consent to release the lab results and you refused, shit, the Colombian authorities would probably double whatever sentence they were planning on giving you.

If you have a fake test result, all it takes is one phone call to the lab and you are royally fucked.

[UnknownGuy]

I warned people about using faked tests back when Colombia first announced they were requiring testing. Perhaps now people will pay attention.

I didn't read the story. I'm curious what the punishment will be. I expect there's a possibility of being banned from Colombia for some period of time plus some stiff fines.

So the story goes that they arrived in Cartagena on Jan 8th (day after mandatory PCR test were required) and somehow (story doesn't say) they were required to quarantine for 14 days upon arrival. They tried to leave on Jan 14th and provided the fake results when leaving Cartagena and got caught. The Colombian gov't changed the rules on the PCR test from Jan 12th to Jan 7th.

Something happened to arrived that caused the mandatory quarantine. 2 things can cause this: Not arriving with your PCR test results (probably didn't know of the date change for PCR test) or taking a test at the Colombian airport and it was positive. Because of the 14 day quarantine, they couldn't leave either unless they had a test saying they were negative. I guess the thing that made it suspicious was that they were trying to leave 6 days after arriving. No way you going to go from positive to negative in 6 days. Yeah that is suspicious, so they called the lab about the results and got caught. They endangered the lives of Colombians by coming in hot (if that's the case), staying and doing god knows what, then trying to roll out. Oh they going to be in some serious trouble. If they do the contact tracing and one of the people they came into contact gets really ill and dies. Shit they may be in Colombia for a long time.

[JjBee62]

I pulled some quotes from the article translated by Google to English.

"during the control process they noticed alleged "irregularities in the test codes, which is why it was decided to verify directly with the laboratory. ".

"When doing this verification process, it was discovered that the Americans "had not taken the tests, but that the tests, presented to Migraciand Colombia, belonged to other people, who would have taken them in October 2020. ".

I wanted to highlight this because I had read in an earlier post where someone claimed it was easy to turn in a fake test, but I am not sure if they were saying when leaving the USA or when leaving Colombia.

I warned people about using faked tests back when Colombia first announced they were requiring testing. Perhaps now people will pay attention.

I didn't read the story. I'm curious what the punishment will be. I expect there's a possibility of being banned from Colombia for some period of time plus some stiff fines.

[OnFireBoy]

I pulled some quotes from the article translated by Google to English.

"during the control process they noticed alleged "irregularities in the test codes, which is why it was decided to verify directly with the laboratory. ".

"When doing this verification process, it was discovered that the Americans "had not taken the tests, but that the tests, presented to Migraciand Colombia, belonged to other people, who would have taken them in October 2020. ".

I wanted to highlight this because I had read in an earlier post where someone claimed it was easy to turn in a fake test, but I am not sure if they were saying when leaving the USA or when leaving Colombia.

Thanks my friend, FYI I'm able now to receive private message, I bought the membership.

[Kulibali]

I pulled some quotes from the article translated by Google to English.

"during the control process they noticed alleged "irregularities in the test codes, which is why it was decided to verify directly with the laboratory. ".

"When doing this verification process, it was discovered that the Americans "had not taken the tests, but that the tests, presented to Migraciand Colombia, belonged to other people, who would have taken them in October 2020. ".

I wanted to highlight this because I had read in an earlier post where someone claimed it was easy to turn in a fake test, but I am not sure if they were saying when leaving the USA or when leaving Colombia.

I'm guessing that they provided the fake tests to migración on their entry into Colombia, the officials probably waited they are leaving the country to catch them.

[Combo]

Because they are FLAILING. The authorities all around the World (whether they be health officials, governors, presidents, mayors, judges etc) don't really know what to do, but when you have 90% of hospital beds occupied, you have to try something. It's sort of human nature. If you throw enough shit against the wall, it's got to work.

Exactly how about some common sense we want to get everybody vaccinated so you're going to get vaccinated and still require all these tests to get on and off planes? For a disease that we now know is going to be endemic for a long time. ?

I am with you on this.

[Mojo Bandit]

Colombian authorities detained three US citizens who intended to leave the country at the Rafael Andez de Cartagena de India's airport, for which they presented false negative coronavirus tests, official sources reported this Thursday.

https://www.eluniversal.com.co/carta...ovid-EE4042879

I pulled some quotes from the article translated by Google to English.

"during the control process they noticed alleged "irregularities in the test codes, which is why it was decided to verify directly with the laboratory. ".

"When doing this verification process, it was discovered that the Americans "had not taken the tests, but that the tests, presented to Migracióand Colombia, belonged to other people, who would have taken them in October 2020. ".

I wanted to highlight this because I had read in an earlier post where someone claimed it was easy to turn in a fake test, but I am not sure if they were saying when leaving the USA or when leaving Colombia.

[Kafka]

Have you considered forwarding this thread to the CDC? Maybe they will see how inconvenient it is and make some changes.

No matter what you think about it, the rule is there. Complaints probably aren't going to change it. If I was on the ground in Colombia, or planning on an upcoming trip, I'd probably devote some time to figuring out where and when to get tested.

I don't have to do that because the airlines are going to do that for me. Given the rate of false positives which is already established and the number of people who are going to be stranded at airports in foreign countries calling their embassy. This will be simplified sooner rather than later......

None of this is required for travel within the United States..... it's a fact that the United States actually has more coronavirus than any country we could possibly travel to..... And we actually have all these new strains as well.

[Quim77]

Have you considered forwarding this thread to the CDC? Maybe they will see how inconvenient it is and make some changes.

No matter what you think about it, the rule is there. Complaints probably aren't going to change it. If I was on the ground in Colombia, or planning on an upcoming trip, I'd probably devote some time to figuring out where and when to get tested.

Since they are responsible for checking for test results, ID check with your airline as to where you can get the test. And ensure that you get the correct test.

[OnFireBoy]

Colombian authorities detained three US citizens who intended to leave the country at the Rafael Andúñez de Cartagena de India's airport, for which they presented false negative coronavirus tests, official sources reported this Thursday.

https://www.eluniversal.com.co/carta...ovid-EE4042879

[JjBee62]

Exactly how about some common sense we want to get everybody vaccinated so you're going to get vaccinated and still require all these tests to get on and off planes? For a disease that we now know is going to be endemic for a long time. ?

I am with you on this.

Have you considered forwarding this thread to the CDC? Maybe they will see how inconvenient it is and make some changes.

No matter what you think about it, the rule is there. Complaints probably aren't going to change it. If I was on the ground in Colombia, or planning on an upcoming trip, I'd probably devote some time to figuring out where and when to get tested.

[Kafka]

Ok so how is that different to the person who gets Covid then repeatedly tests positive due to slow clearing or viral remnants or whatever else reason. Why are those people then being allowed on with a doctors note? Let's call this what it is, arbitrary bull shit rule making. And what a might fine job these idiots have done to date. They have lost all credibility and the only thing left is got brute force. I personally think they should implement some common sense precautions and vaccinate and get on with it.

Exactly how about some common sense we want to get everybody vaccinated so you're going to get vaccinated and still require all these tests to get on and off planes? For a disease that we now know is going to be endemic for a long time. ?

I am with you on this.