Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[Kuni042]

With the new corona-variant, they won't open prostitution unless the covid-incidence rate sinks below 25 - I am still optimistic we get to this by May 1st- but imo not before.

[Ararat]

I randomly struck up a conversation in Artemis with a guy from Malm. Later in the evening we bumped into his friend's son in the club who was also from Malm! I do try to tell people I meet and get along with about ISG, we all use aliases here though so wouldn't know if any joined.

I once saw my neighbour at a club. That was interesting.

I'm sure plenty of Swedes go to clubs but it would mostly be alone unlike the groups you sometimes hear from other countries. I rarely hear Swedish spoken in the clubs and when I hear it it's typically young middle eastern guys.

[Mursenary]

I randomly struck up a conversation in Artemis with a guy from Malm. Later in the evening we bumped into his friend's son in the club who was also from Malm! I do try to tell people I meet and get along with about ISG, we all use aliases here though so wouldn't know if any joined.

Due to flight patterns through Berlin, I think you do see more Swedes at Artemis. I've only met 3 in the Frankfurt-NRW clubs. Only one of them was an ethnic Swede though. All seemed to be very pleasant guys. Oddly enough, against the popular stereotype, the ethnic Swede was the most social and we've even tried to coordinate FKK meet ups since then. Perhaps it's because he said that he wasn't so fond of German and Turkish-German cultural attitudes, finding preference toward the Brits and Americans.

[Mursenary]

Don't leave out the ugly Americans, "some we can assume, are good people".

Can't forget the Chinese either. As the Chinese middle class grows, they are quickly becoming known to travel in large packs while on holiday and be absurdly unaware of how their noisiness disturbs the ambiance. I remember being in serene locales in Vietnam and Portugal only to have the majesty of the natural surroundings ruined by busloads of Chinese tourists invading like locust. Ugh, they're the worst.

Even the Vietnamese government had to ban Chinese tourists at one point, citing "uncivilized" behavior. When a third world country calls a nation's people uncivilized, there's a problem.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/ampe.vn...s-3754368.html

[Mursenary]

Funny that you, the poster boy of the Dunning-Kruger effect, is commenting on others considering that you seem to be a troll with a inferiority complex.

How's that "ban" going? Apparently not so good. Hope the bukkake is going better.

[Beijing4987]

Funny to hear that from you considering that the French are considered as the rudest and most arrogant people of Europe.

Don't leave out the ugly Americans, "some we can assume, are good people".

[ShooBree]

It is strange that I've counted at least 4 of them and 3 seem to be very similar. It's as if 3 teenage boys got together and started trolling the same board.

Funny that you, the poster boy of the Dunning-Kruger effect, is commenting on others considering that you seem to be a troll with a inferiority complex.

[ShooBree]

Wrong about what? That two other people were talking about American racism and some rando comes talking about North African and Offshore slavery? I feel like you're having more fun on the American politics thread. They bukkake on your face a little more to your liking.

Also, you've "unbanned" me I see, LOL. Pathetic show of self restraint.

You're lack of intelligence is showing. Apparently you're unable to connect the dots.

[ShooBree]

They all have a strong herd immunity fetish but at least some of them have a basic knowledge of good manners.

Funny to hear that from you considering that the French are considered as the rudest and most arrogant people of Europe.

[Pistons]

Enjoy the killer vaccine guys! Apparently lots of people have died from just one jab. Let see how many dies from the 2nd one! Or wait, its being censored by most countries. Just like Facebook and twitter! LOL.

[ScatManDoo]

You're such a moron, it's not possible for you to see my posts if I put you on ignore. So it basically serves as a ban. How dumb are you?

I know that you're scared of my posts because you can't argument against them.

English speakers and literates would say, and write this:

"Because you can't argue against them".

You've already embarrassed yourself

There you go.

Projecting again.

SMH.

[Mursenary]

Fake lives just like their designer clothes

Agreed on that. Yes social media is a constructed image. But that other dude commenting is not clever enough to spot the fake from the real.

Point however, was that there are trends you see that differentiate the girls who are completely independent and ones who still have lover boys. Getting a driver's license, buying a home, vacationing anywhere not Spain, Italy, or Turkey, those signs are correlated with girls who are free of lover boys. Some even make a permanent move to Germany and acquire part time jobs (tax purposes I believe). One GT girl told me how she was wrestling with the job and hiding it from her new German boyfriend.

Others even help other girls in the business. One Acapulco girl would even drive another girl to work on days that she was not working herself.

Anyway, it's not 2010 anymore and many of these girls are more capable than some here give them credit for. While many girls are still coerced by "boyfriends", to say that 80% of girls have pimps and lover boys is laughable to me and just reflects how out of touch some of the guys are.

[Sirioja]

And also some girls pimping other girls, explaining them such business when they are at home in Romania or Hungary, giving them information, and after asking them to pay, usually 50 € in NRW, per girl per day they work. Daria at LR was pimped by a girl who informed her for such job, Karina was probably also. A Hungarian pimped another Hungarian at Bruggen. How could girls find brothels address and which one to choose from their deep Romania where most come from, how could they pay the trip, do they ask their parents for such information, or at school? I also remember a Romanian / Hungarian star at Bruggen kicked in face by another girl pimp. Pimping mean taking money from a prostitute, being bought a car is also pimping, unfortunately polizei can t do anything because these girls think and say their BF, but these guys would leave like rabbits if they didn't get money from their beloved GF fucked by everybody to make money for them. A bad guy like me would never ask my beloved GF to go to fuck with other guys to bring me money. Shame for these guys, not real men for me, probably why most of girls find what I think quite normal Caucasian size, too big and they are not used to in business and with BF pimp.

[Palcon]

How many social media profiles show truth? Or maybe more what they want to show and play. I believe what I see with my own 2 small eyes.

Fake lives just like their designer clothes

[Mongerer88]

With the vicissitudes of salaries for ordinary workers today the prices for p4p in the US has not budged downwards. During this pandemic period the best that has happened is that the charges by escorts remain the same. If a pandemic cannot bring down the costs of our favorite hobby nothing will.

I agree. Supply has met demand for high-end escorts in the USA, and there ain't much that can be done about it.

https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/273955

There are much better prices for lower-end ladies in the U. S, but seeing them often entails accepting that they use drugs, are physically unattractive, often mentally unbalanced, and come from a market source that involves a significant chance of encountering law enforcement.

A solution would be for increased immigration of ladies predisposed to do commercial sex work, but that ain't going to happen in the USA A major effort occurred about a decade ago by USA Immigration and Border Patrol to keep Canadian escorts from touring the northeast. It was unfortunately quite successful, and many Canadian escorts were forced to accept a ten year ban from entering the USA After being confronted with Internet information regarding their planned tours after having the contents of their bags searched and inventoried. They still speak bitterly about it on the Canadian discussion boards, with good reason. So there is zero percent chance the USA Will ever let in the multitudes of ladies from Eastern Europe, South America, and Mexico / Central America that are significantly responsible for the low prices in developed countries like Germany, Spain and Portugal. The local Spanish and Portuguese providers simply price match the immigrants, so their pricing effect is definitely there, even if difficult to quantify. The number of hot Venezuelans currently advertising and being reviewed on the Spanish review boards is amazing.

From a long-term business marketing perspective, this USA Model of independent escorts getting the highest possible short-term price is indeed quite bad from a standpoint of building any loyalty from young men of modest means. Just a few days ago, I noticed a tweet asking that customers give a voluntary donation to their favorite Onlyfans lady, because many of them were emotionally traumatized by the mean comments right below this article, and on the twitter feed for the article.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/b...mic-users.html

Based on the twitter and Facebook profiles of many commentators leaving comments that the ladies found objectionable, many were in fact young men. A brothel or escort agency would realize that setting a price for inclusive of young men earning relatively less might get them a customer who would do business with them for forty or fifty years. An independent escort presumably has less incentive to do so. Although it would still make sense for them to privately offer such deals, at least in my opinion. Maybe some do when they encounter a young guy who they like and who might be a customer for a long time?