American Politics

[Travv]

"This going to be hard to live down.

Majority Leader Chuck Schumer got a rise out of lawmakers on the Senate floor Friday when he fumbled his words and said that they will have to decide if former President Donald Trump incited the "erection" against the US.

"Make no mistake, there will be a trial and when that trial ends, senators will have to decide if they believe Donald John Trump incited the erection against the United States," Schumer said. . . " NY Post.

Commenters: "Gads. Maybe he has whatever Biden has. " "Erections have consequences."

"is it constitutional to impeach someone not in office? This seems like a pretty straightforward yes or no question. If it's unclear, and they move forward, I can't wait until the trial for Obama once the MAGA party moves in."

Is that Jeffrey Toobin's defense? Trump incited his erection? LOL.

"That was Freudian. Chuckie has always had a hard on for Trump since Day One. " "In before the Toobin remark. " "Is that Jeffrey Toobin's defense? Trump incited his erection? LOL".

If Trump did not intend for his lies and rant to rile up his mob to storm and invade the Capitol Building then when the case is made at his Impeachment trial in the Senate he can present the evidence that he immediately picked up his well worn phone to call out the military and demand all effort be made to stop them the minute he saw on live TV like the rest of us that his mob was doing exactly that.

Surely there must be plenty of evidence that he was shocked and dismayed by behavior he never, ever intended, in real time, when he saw them climbing the walls, breaking windows, getting a blow-by-blow report for what they were actually doing when they arrived at the Capitol Building on his orders. And he must have gotten that intel sooner than almost anyone else in the country. So there must also be a phone record and lots of documentation of President Trump making those calls at an emergency pace within a minute of the first sound and report of broken glass.

Now, if instead, there is only evidence and testimony of him sitting back on his couch watching the rioters storm and invade the place without him springing into action to call out the troops to respond to what he later called "defiling the seat of American democracy", well then that behavior will go a long way to substantiating the most difficult aspect to prove for the crime of inciting a riot with ones words; intent.

[EihTooms]

My questions were: What exactly did Trump say or do to encourage people to riot? Can you show me this clear evidence including any direct quotes?

You haven't answered the questions. But yes of course he knew there would be a protest, because he was the one who called for the protest! But he did NOT incite or encourage these protestors to commit violence or to engage in any illegal activity.

If Trump did not intend for his lies and rant to rile up his mob to storm and invade the Capitol Building then when the case is made at his Impeachment trial in the Senate he can present the evidence that he immediately picked up his well worn phone to call out the military and demand all effort be made to stop them the minute he saw on live TV like the rest of us that his mob was doing exactly that.

Surely there must be plenty of evidence that he was shocked and dismayed by behavior he never, ever intended, in real time, when he saw them climbing the walls, breaking windows, getting a blow-by-blow report for what they were actually doing when they arrived at the Capitol Building on his orders. And he must have gotten that intel sooner than almost anyone else in the country. So there must also be a phone record and lots of documentation of President Trump making those calls at an emergency pace within a minute of the first sound and report of broken glass.

Now, if instead, there is only evidence and testimony of him sitting back on his couch watching the rioters storm and invade the place without him springing into action to call out the troops to respond to what he later called "defiling the seat of American democracy", well then that behavior will go a long way to substantiating the most difficult aspect to prove for the crime of inciting a riot with ones words; intent.

[Tavares]

I took that to mean to demonstrate, peacefully, outside the Capitol. As did the vast majority of the tens of thousands / hundreds of thousands of Trump supporters who went on the protest. It was just a tiny minority of Trump supporters that got carried away and entered the Capitol Building, along with some anti-fa agitators. Some of the protestors broke in, some were waved in by the security who were guarding the building. But But the very idea that Trump wanted an insurrection is simply preposterous. Those protestors that broke the law will have to face the consequences of their actions and Trump has condemned those that broke the law.

As for the allegations that the election was rigged, Biden could have stepped up back in November and announced that his first act after he was sworn in as President would be to set up an independent audit of the voting and invited Trump to participate. But Biden didn't. It's almost as if he, and the Democrats, are frightened of what such an audit might dig up.

Hundreds of judges, many of them republicans appointed by Trump, officials galore from every state, many of them republicans as well, confirmed Biden's win, several files, submitted by Trump's legal team, were laughed out of court after court.

You are a second edition of Shoo Bree? If not, stop beating about the bush and tell us once and for all WHO in your opinion did win the election?

[Mdemde]

After telling his supporters over and over again that the elections were rigged and asking them to "stop the steal"? Isn't it enough? What the next step would be to "stop the steal" except for storming the Capitol and preventing the Congress from certifying the results? You are in bad faith. Or you want to pull us mongers' leg?

I took that to mean to demonstrate, peacefully, outside the Capitol. As did the vast majority of the tens of thousands / hundreds of thousands of Trump supporters who went on the protest. It was just a tiny minority of Trump supporters that got carried away and entered the Capitol Building, along with some anti-fa agitators. Some of the protestors broke in, some were waved in by the security who were guarding the building. But But the very idea that Trump wanted an insurrection is simply preposterous. Those protestors that broke the law will have to face the consequences of their actions and Trump has condemned those that broke the law.

As for the allegations that the election was rigged, Biden could have stepped up back in November and announced that his first act after he was sworn in as President would be to set up an independent audit of the voting and invited Trump to participate. But Biden didn't. It's almost as if he, and the Democrats, are frightened of what such an audit might dig up.

[ShooBree]

So you're still drinking the kool aid?

So you actually believe that Biden wants to unite the nation? LMFAO!

In a way it's actually true, he wants to unite the nation but without having to compromise on a single issue. Joe Biden is the most radical left wing president USA ever seen.

[ShooBree]

After telling his supporters over and over again that the elections were rigged and asking them to "stop the steal"? Isn't it enough? What the next step would be to "stop the steal" except for storming the Capitol and preventing the Congress from certifying the results? You are in bad faith. Or you want to pull us mongers' leg?

I would say that you're in bad faith.

I understand what this is about, you liberals supports political violence and terrorism as long as it's carried out by your own people. What you haven't realized is that conservatives do not condone political violence no matter of the perpetrators political affiliation.

[ShooBree]

Mitch McConnel: People were fed lies. People were provoked by the President and other powerful people.

President Donald J. Trump greets the crowd at the "Stop The Steal" Rally on January 6th, 2021 in Washington, DC. Urging their presence at the legislature to give "weak" Republicans in Congress "the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country. "* "Let's walk down Pennsylvania Avenue," he told the crowd in front of him, concluding his speech right around 13:10 hours Eastern time. *"We're going to walk down to the Capitol, and we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and -women, and we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them," Trump told the crowd a few minutes after noon. *"I'll be there with you," he noted. *"We're never going to take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong. " Trump called out members of Congress and the vice president by name, over and over, taking his time to explain to the crowd that the legislators' choice to certify Biden's victory would stick with them for life. "Right over there right there! we see an event, going to take place, and I'm going to be watching, because history is going to be made," Trump said. "We're going to see whether or not we have great and courageous leaders, or whether we have leaders that should be ashamed of themselves throughout history..

Donald Trump is undoubtedly the best American president since the 80's.

The Democrats created this situation by their unprecedented witch-hunt against Trump and their support of extremists initiating insurrections and riots all over America. The Democrats needs to apologize for how they attacked US democracy by calling Donald Trump "illegitimate" and encouraged terrorists to attack one American city after the other. Cops were killed because of the liberal media and liberal politicians.

The leftist made USA look like a third world country.

[PVMonger]

Originally Posted by Mdemde: "What exactly did Trump say or do to encourage people to riot? Can you show me this clear evidence including any direct quotes?

You really call that evidence of incitement to riot? Is that really the best you have?

Actually, the clearest evidence is coming out of the mouths of the lawyers for the insurrectionists. Virtually all of them are saying that they'll use a version of the Flip Wilson defense ("Trump made me do it") or a version of the Nuremberg defense ("I was just following orders from Trump".

By the way, the insurrectionists are on tape saying that Trump told them to do it. But not to worry, there aren't 17 Senators with spines.

[Philosophus]

My questions were: What exactly did Trump say or do to encourage people to riot? Can you show me this clear evidence including any direct quotes?

You haven't answered the questions. But yes of course he knew there would be a protest, because he was the one who called for the protest! But he did NOT incite or encourage these protestors to commit violence or to engage in any illegal activity.

Mitch McConnel: People were fed lies. People were provoked by the President and other powerful people.

President Donald J. Trump greets the crowd at the "Stop The Steal" Rally on January 6th, 2021 in Washington, DC. Urging their presence at the legislature to give "weak" Republicans in Congress "the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country. "* "Let's walk down Pennsylvania Avenue," he told the crowd in front of him, concluding his speech right around 13:10 hours Eastern time. *"We're going to walk down to the Capitol, and we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and -women, and we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them," Trump told the crowd a few minutes after noon. *"I'll be there with you," he noted. *"We're never going to take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong. " Trump called out members of Congress and the vice president by name, over and over, taking his time to explain to the crowd that the legislators' choice to certify Biden's victory would stick with them for life. "Right over there — right there! — we see an event, going to take place, and I'm going to be watching, because history is going to be made," Trump said. "We're going to see whether or not we have great and courageous leaders, or whether we have leaders that should be ashamed of themselves throughout history. "*.

"America's elections used to be respected the world over, Trump said. Unfortunately, though, his loss meant that was no longer the case: "You know what the world says about us now? They say we don't have free and fair elections. " The President turned up the temperature, comparing his base of supporters to a fighter with his hands tied behind his back. * "We want to be so nice," he said. "We want to be so respectful of everybody, including bad people, and we're going to have to fight much harder. " Then, he turned his focus to Vice President Mike Pence. Pence had told Trump that he did not have the power to throw out the election results as Trump wanted. Trump was reportedly furious at this. But he didn't let on that he knew what the vice president would do. * "Mike Pence is going to have to come through for us, and if he doesn't, that would be a sad day for our country," he said. "Because you're sworn to uphold the Constitution. "*"Now it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy," he said. Shortened by the author. Source: TPM (talking point memo, Jan 9th, 2021).

Donald Trump ought to be convicted by the parliament he sought to besiege. One of the worst presidential acts in the history of the US.

[Chocha Monger]

My questions were: What exactly did Trump say or do to encourage people to riot? Can you show me this clear evidence including any direct quotes?

You haven't answered the questions. But yes of course he knew there would be a protest, because he was the one who called for the protest! But he did NOT incite or encourage these protestors to commit violence or to engage in any illegal activity.

Biden will implement strict gun control to disarm the QAnon and white supremacist nut jobs. After their guns are gone, they will be less of a threat to democracy.

[ScatManDoo]

My questions were: What exactly did Trump say or do to encourage people to riot? Can you show me this clear evidence including any direct quotes?.

That was provided yesterday in this very thread.

By me.

You are sounding like a broken record.

I mean a moron broken record.

[ScatManDoo]

It was a satirical piece, mocking and ridiculing Sleepy Joe.

Amateurishly written.

It also contained many elements of truth about the Democrats, and also about Sleepy Joe.

Only in your shattered and confused mind.

[Tavares]

My questions were: What exactly did Trump say or do to encourage people to riot? Can you show me this clear evidence including any direct quotes?

You haven't answered the questions. But yes of course he knew there would be a protest, because he was the one who called for the protest! But he did NOT incite or encourage these protestors to commit violence or to engage in any illegal activity.

After telling his supporters over and over again that the elections were rigged and asking them to "stop the steal"? Isn't it enough? What the next step would be to "stop the steal" except for storming the Capitol and preventing the Congress from certifying the results? You are in bad faith. Or you want to pull us mongers' leg?

[Mdemde]

I keep wondering whether you are ignorant or in bad faith, maybe a bit of both in fact. Anyway you should see a doctor: it looks like a bad case of mental pneumonia.

It was a satirical piece, mocking and ridiculing Sleepy Joe. It also contained many elements of truth about the Democrats, and also about Sleepy Joe.

[Mdemde]

Do you really think that TrumpShit did not know the size and make-up of of his January 6th Capital Hill Goon Squads?

Remember, they make up mutual admiration objects.

Think about what real-time info would have been available to TrumpShit. TrumpShit knew the comparative size of Those Guarding the capital and the size of His Goon Squad.

Think for the first time in your life.

My questions were: What exactly did Trump say or do to encourage people to riot? Can you show me this clear evidence including any direct quotes?

You haven't answered the questions. But yes of course he knew there would be a protest, because he was the one who called for the protest! But he did NOT incite or encourage these protestors to commit violence or to engage in any illegal activity.