American Politics

[ShooBree]

Funny, I hear him always described as a moderate democrat by people who are professionally employed as political analysts.

Not amateur blind fools.

Oh really, did you hear that on CNN? LMFAO!

Looking at what Biden is saying and what people he's nominating I think it's rather clear that Biden is by no means a moderate. He's a left-wing extremist who would be consider too extreme by most European countries.

[Philosophus]

Donald Trump is undoubtedly the best American president since the 80's.

The Democrats created this situation by their unprecedented witch-hunt against Trump and their support of extremists initiating insurrections and riots all over America. The Democrats needs to apologize for how they attacked US democracy by calling Donald Trump "illegitimate" and encouraged terrorists to attack one American city after the other. Cops were killed because of the liberal media and liberal politicians.

The leftist made USA look like a third world country.

Shoo, call me a Reagan Republican. Don't scapegoat "Democrats". All Americans in power, Democrat and Republican alike, must deal with nihilism, hooliganism and class warfare. Mrs. Clinton polemicized (deplorables) but she conceded on election night. Mr Trump certainly made insult a standard tool of his communication but he did not concede even weeks after the fact. Compare that with Al Gore in 2000, who lost Florida and the presidency by 500 votes. We expect more of any politician of any color. Trump alone is responsible for his words on Jan 6th and prior, no matter how much he was harrassed.

In hindsight, most Americans view their presidents positively. They are woven in their lives. It makes perfect sense. I diagree with what you claim to be an "undoubtable" truth. Trump's legacy will be the infamy of Jan 6th, 2021, sadly. Americans are unforgiving in this respect. Nixon had his merits, but his reputation never recovered. Lincoln is a saint for somehow weaving the country back together. Wilson won a war, as did Truman. Reagan and George W. Bush were very good persons and loving spouses. Reagan finished communism off. George Bush oversaw unification of Germany. Clinton was handsome and balanced the budget with Newt. George W. Invested in Africa and in American children, also managed 911 admirably. Obama will forever be etched in the history books as the first man of color in that post, no matter what else you and I agree or disagree on. As for Trump, the scenes of Jan 6th 2021 will dominate. I hope his clarity on Israel and his dedication to the rue of law at the Southern border will prevail. But they are peanuts compared to his morbid stubbornness, his inability to recognize who he is, his bullying and his perpetual fact twisting which led this nadir of American political culture.

[Canada]

No schooling at all should be necessary to figure out if Trump just sat on his big rump and watched his mob invade and vandalize the Capitol Building on TV rather than spring into action to call out the troops to stop them the first minute he saw that happening then they were obviously doing exactly what he intended his lies and rant to incite them to do.

Really? Something so obvious never once occurred to you in the weeks since the insurrection until I mentioned it here?

What is really obvious is you only condone violence from the right. Biden is doing nothing to stop the left BLM and Antifa from destroying property, looting and physical violence. Does this mean Biden should be impeached because he is allowing it? Are you liberals proud of yourself for your beliefs that defunding the police, open borders, abolish ice, transgender men or women in children bathrooms. Is this really the values of Americans who care for their country? Who care to keep children safe? Do you really believe that we should allow millions of people to come into our country and take jobs away from our citizens? Our kids? Our friends? Why do you hate the American way of life? Do you really think your parents would be proud of your thinking? Do you really believe that your parents and grandparents were all racist and their history should be abolished? Why are you still living in such a horrible country that needs all these changes. Do you really believe that this will make America better? If you are proud of this it pretty much sums up who you are.

[Travv]

Daniel Greenfield January 24,2021.

On a cold, windy day with a small group of spectators watching from behind barbed wire, Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. Swore another in a long series of false oaths before his motorcade passed between a long row of soldiers with their backs to him looking outward for threats.

No inauguration has been this empty in a century of American history. And at no inauguration have the spectators been outnumbered by a raw display of armed force. American presidents have been inaugurated in wartime and during actual national emergencies with a better turnout.

Through world wars and wars on terror, Washington the. See. Has remained a national capital where the hundreds of millions of taxpayers who labor to pay for its grand edifices, free museums, and lavish lifestyles could briefly come to enjoy a little of the life lived by the ruling class in the Imperial City. Now the ruling class has made it clear that it doesn't want peasants entering the. See.

Even as Biden's team prepped the executive orders that would end the national emergency at the border and shut down construction of the wall, new walls topped by razor wire were rising across the imperial city. The new Fortress of Government sealed off two miles of the National Mall and parts of downtown the. See. And filled it with more soldiers than are deployed in Iraq.

The Secret Service designated green and red zones. Some 25,000 National Guard members were dispatched from Vermont, Maine, Louisiana, Wisconsin, Ohio, Minnesota, New Hampshire, Connecticut, Arkansas, Missouri, South Carolina, Rhode Island, Virginia, and Colorado to prepare for a fake invasion that never came. But the armored vehicles and heavy weaponry did come. President Trump had wanted a military parade that would show America's strength to the world. Biden held his own military parade to intimidate his fellow Americans.

Democrats had deployed more soldiers in the. See. Than they had in Iraq and Afghanistan while authorizing them to use lethal force and investigating their politics before the deployment. The radical leftists who had resisted using the military to fight terrorism or secure the border from invasion were eager to deploy the military against the people of the United States of America. . . ".

Full article: http://www.danielgreenfield.org/2021...nue-until.html.

Why not compare with Obama inauguration? Insted the half empty Trump. Or was it the Kukuksclan white dress? - that make it look so empty during Trumps inauguration?

[Tavares]

An opinion piece by Douglas Murray, published today in the Daily Mail (link below).

In what way is this policy a good idea? Is this not open to abuse? Would you Liberals be happy to let your daughter or your granddaughter or your girlfriend share a restroom / changing room with a male?

"During his first hours in office, Biden signed an executive order calling on all federal agencies to ensure that people who identify as the opposite sex should be free to use whatever changing room or 'restroom' they wish to. And that school sports must sign up to 'combat discrimination on the basis of gender identity'.

There is something of the late Roman empire about this, the arrogance of a ruling elite in terminal decline. The world's most powerful man gets into office at a time of unprecedented crisis and one of his first priorities is to ensure that men who identify as women should be allowed to use female changing rooms and pulverise any woman he comes across in competitive sports. All in the name of equality, obviously. ".

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...-end-well.html

What about women who identify as men?

[ScatManDoo]

Why not compare with Obama inauguration? Insted the half empty Trump. Or was it the Kukuksclan white dress? - that make it look so empty during Trumps inauguration?

It was the large, empty lawn areas that made the Mall look so empty during TrumpShit's inauguration.

And T. Shit look so pitifully & desperate when he tried lying about his crowd size when compared to Obama.

Trump was always afraid of being objectively "Measured Up" to Barack Obama.

Melania knows what I mean.

[PVMonger]

Donald Trump is undoubtedly the best American president since the 80's.

The Democrats created this situation by their unprecedented witch-hunt against Trump and their support of extremists initiating insurrections and riots all over America. The Democrats needs to apologize for how they attacked US democracy by calling Donald Trump "illegitimate" and encouraged terrorists to attack one American city after the other. Cops were killed because of the liberal media and liberal politicians.

The leftist made USA look like a third world country.

Really? Democrats did that? There isn't a single shred of evidence for that except in Hannity's head.

[Mdemde]

An opinion piece by Douglas Murray, published today in the Daily Mail (link below).

In what way is this policy a good idea? Is this not open to abuse? Would you Liberals be happy to let your daughter or your granddaughter or your girlfriend share a restroom / changing room with a male?

"During his first hours in office, Biden signed an executive order calling on all federal agencies to ensure that people who identify as the opposite sex should be free to use whatever changing room or 'restroom' they wish to. And that school sports must sign up to 'combat discrimination on the basis of gender identity'.

There is something of the late Roman empire about this, the arrogance of a ruling elite in terminal decline. The world's most powerful man gets into office at a time of unprecedented crisis and one of his first priorities is to ensure that men who identify as women should be allowed to use female changing rooms and pulverise any woman he comes across in competitive sports. All in the name of equality, obviously. ".

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...-end-well.html

[Beno69]

Joseph Biden's "inauguration" is empty.
Compare the images from 2017 (Trump's inauguration) and 2021 (Biden's) for yourself. . . "

Why not compare with Obama inauguration? Insted the half empty Trump. Or was it the Kukuksclan white dress? - that make it look so empty during Trumps inauguration?

[EihTooms]

Did you think of this on your own or did you have to go to a liberal school to think this stupid crap up?

No schooling at all should be necessary to figure out if Trump just sat on his big rump and watched his mob invade and vandalize the Capitol Building on TV rather than spring into action to call out the troops to stop them the first minute he saw that happening then they were obviously doing exactly what he intended his lies and rant to incite them to do.

Really? Something so obvious never once occurred to you in the weeks since the insurrection until I mentioned it here?

[ScatManDoo]

In a way it's actually true, he wants to unite the nation but without having to compromise on a single issue.

As opposed to Trump, who would just get outmaneuvered by politicians in both parties that could easily wipe the floor with Trump when he would stubbornly refuse to compromise, like a confused, frustrated & powerless child. Easy to outmaneuver the outmatched and unaware.

Joe Biden is the most radical left wing president USA ever seen.

Funny, I hear him always described as a moderate democrat by people who are professionally employed as political analysts.

Not amateur blind fools.

[Mursenary]

My questions were: What exactly did Trump say or do to encourage people to riot? Can you show me this clear evidence including any direct quotes?

The way you ask this question, it's as if you are under the impression that impeachment hearings are criminal trials in which evidence must be provided to prove guilt "without a doubt."

The reality, however, is that while impeachment is a legal hearing, it is not necessarily a criminal trial. The standard of proof is much lower than, say, a murder trial, despite multiple numerous defense teams' attempts to try a case otherwise.

As such, if a reasonable case can be made that, even if Trump did not directly instruct the crowd to cause violence, his actions leading up to the 6th of January (knowingly promoting unwarranted claims, coercing election "officials to find votes," the inflammatory speeches and tweets, etc) it would be reasonable for the Senate to find him responsible for "incitement of insurrection" even without direct verbiage to promote violence. In this case, it is a case of personal conduct, one that betrays "public trust. " Even if his words cannot be proven to be direct incitement, his cumulative actions from the election to the riots are being evaluated in their totality, not just the speech on the 6th of January.

(I am no constitutional legal expert but I can read Wikipedia and the sources that it references.)

[GDreams]

I would say that you're in bad faith.

I understand what this is about, you liberals supports political violence and terrorism as long as it's carried out by your own people. What you haven't realized is that conservatives do not condone political violence no matter of the perpetrators political affiliation.

So all those militias Trump so loves just like to play with those guns and go marching with them but of course they would never use them.

[GDreams]

I took that to mean to demonstrate, peacefully, outside the Capitol. As did the vast majority of the tens of thousands / hundreds of thousands of Trump supporters who went on the protest. It was just a tiny minority of Trump supporters that got carried away and entered the Capitol Building, along with some anti-fa agitators. Some of the protestors broke in, some were waved in by the security who were guarding the building. But But the very idea that Trump wanted an insurrection is simply preposterous. Those protestors that broke the law will have to face the consequences of their actions and Trump has condemned those that broke the law.

As for the allegations that the election was rigged, Biden could have stepped up back in November and announced that his first act after he was sworn in as President would be to set up an independent audit of the voting and invited Trump to participate. But Biden didn't. It's almost as if he, and the Democrats, are frightened of what such an audit might dig up.

No there was a coordinated attack on the capital building. Yes some protestors may have just come along for the ride. No there was no antifa presence. All those arrested have long social media histories of Trump support.

The Federal government has no say in how states conduct there elections. Trump already did an audit in 2017 and found nothing. Many states just told him to go jump. Biden could not institute an audit without cooperation from the states. Georgia did several recounts and an audit and it did not change the result. The bottom line is Trumps behavior antagonizes more people than it wins.

[ScatManDoo]

Now, if instead, there is only evidence and testimony of him sitting back on his couch watching the rioters storm and invade the place without him springing into action to call out the troops to respond to what he later called "defiling the seat of American democracy", well then that behavior will go a long way to substantiating the most difficult aspect to prove for the crime of inciting a riot with ones words; intent.

There are a lot of accounts (I believe corroborating more than a dozen sources) of WH staff and government officials present in the White House when Trump finished inciting on January 6th and went back inside the White House. The Trump White House leaks more than a 1992 Cadillac with over 180,000 miles on the odometer.

Donald Trump riled up the crowd with his first words at around 12:15 until his final words to the Eclipses' crowd around an hour later at 1:15 PM. Before TrumpShit finished his speaking, crowd members began heading to the Capital. The first of five barricades at the Capital was breeched at 12:53 PM and by 2 PM essentially all the different barricade boundaries had been crossed by groups of rioters.

He was delighted with the rioting he was seeing on TV and he seemed confused (like not understanding) that the people around him were not as gleeful about what was unfolding as he was.

He expressed his pleasure and enjoyment with the insurrection.

Numerous WH people were encouraging TrumpShit to call in the National Guard, but for around two hours of repeated encouragement from the folks there, TrumpShit made no call to the National Guard.

Mike Pence, securely guarded with other Pence family members in the Capital grounds was the one to eventually call for the National Guard.

The National Guard mobilized after a brief delay, the delay used to confirm they would act this time on Pence's request alone.

If you remember, around a half dozen people who work in the Trump administration, and who were witness to all this fucked-up crap from the President, resigned in less than 24 hours.

What is the literary comparison?

Maybe Roman Emperor Nero fiddling as Rome burned?