Kyiv

[YummyPL]

Thanks for your appreciation but I don't have even basic russian. I can read Cyrillic Alphabet and I only know, some basic words like Hello, how are you. Believe me you exaggerate the situation in your eyes. Yummy will be angry to me because I increase the no of people going there by writing this (LOL) but this is the main reason many guys stay home. Only fear. In reality everything not that difficult.

Iceberg, it is an honor just to be mentioned in one of your posts.

I'm a very fit 53 year old so not in a particularly high risk group, but I have zero fear of COVID. My Russian is horrible, but I guess it is getting better.

Kyiv is really good for me right now. I don't discourage anyone from coming except DramaFree who I know will have a horrible time.

[VinDici]

Any update on covid requirements and constraints for foreigners entering ukraine??

All the info you want for your specific country can be found here: https://visitukraine.today/.

It is the official site, so is reliable.

[IndusMint]

Any update on covid requirements and constraints for foreigners entering ukraine??

[Iceberg27]

I honestly thought the same thing myself when I read Iceberg's post. I can only agree with NorskKing. If you don't speak some Russian, it will be very hard.

Gentlemen,

Thanks for your appreciation but I don't have even basic russian. I can read Cyrillic Alphabet and I only know, some basic words like Hello, how are you. Believe me you exaggerate the situation in your eyes. Yummy will be angry to me because I increase the no of people going there by writing this (LOL) but this is the main reason many guys stay home. Only fear. In reality everything not that difficult.

Iceberg, I think your perspective is valid with someone with at least basic Russian ability. For an average foreigners that kind of network seeking is very difficult. I had many times thought to travel to Kiev anyways but did not do it because I knew I had to struggle to find that hidden groups.

Please keep posting, I enjoy your views and posts. I am not as active these days as I wish to be, but soon I hope.

Regarding network, of course I had some friends from the past through the Latin dance society but if my goal was only P4 p, I would make it even without their help. If you have time and money, don't miss, just jump in a plane and go there and enjoy strip clubs and get some Ukrainian dyevushka ass on your dck in Topless MP. Download Bolt and Bolt Food. You will be served in your apartment with nice Uzbek food (try Misaffir. Perfect restaurant) They bring everything to your apartment with bicycle couriers. I can't go there one more time and have to count hours here on weekends lockdown. My bitcoin investments crashed down and I don't have annual leave enough.

[Kater100]

Iceberg, I think your perspective is valid with someone with at least basic Russian ability. For an average foreigners that kind of network seeking is very difficult. I had many times thought to travel to Kiev anyways but did not do it because I knew I had to struggle to find that hidden groups.

Please keep posting, I enjoy your views and posts. I am not as active these days as I wish to be, but soon I hope.

I honestly thought the same thing myself when I read Iceberg's post. I can only agree with NorskKing. If you don't speak some Russian, it will be very hard.

[NorskKing]

It is really an advantage to have less man. I think recently are golden times like it was in 2013 when the war begun between Russia and Ukraine. It was my best visit in Odessa. Nothing really dangerous happened. Just after I returned. Some crazy people came to İbiza club and beaten the people in a Russian Singer's concert. I mean you can't say there is no risk in such times. Honestly in Ukraine noone gives a shtt about Covid. You can get infected easily but what I believe if you have a strong immunity nothing happens. Lİke if you be careful and not to go Russian singer's concert in Odessa. So it is always your responsiblity to be carefull. Regarding quarantine when I was in Kyiv pandemy makes everything a little bit more difficult but not a big deal. For example partys never been announced openly in social media. You have to be in contact with local people and be a member of secret telegram groups. One night when I was in front of Buena Vista club, In freezing weather I knocked the door for a long time for the bodyguard to hear from downstairs. He heard it after 10 minutes and he came and open the door look right and left carefully and take me inside. It was like a James Bond movie. But all in all it was really enjoyable to be there. If I can find an opportunity I will try Minsk this time.

Iceberg, I think your perspective is valid with someone with at least basic Russian ability. For an average foreigners that kind of network seeking is very difficult. I had many times thought to travel to Kiev anyways but did not do it because I knew I had to struggle to find that hidden groups.

Please keep posting, I enjoy your views and posts. I am not as active these days as I wish to be, but soon I hope.

[Iceberg27]

I guess you say that because now less foreigners, then girls work better, don't?

It is really an advantage to have less man. I think recently are golden times like it was in 2013 when the war begun between Russia and Ukraine. It was my best visit in Odessa. Nothing really dangerous happened. Just after I returned. Some crazy people came to İbiza club and beaten the people in a Russian Singer's concert. I mean you can't say there is no risk in such times. Honestly in Ukraine noone gives a shtt about Covid. You can get infected easily but what I believe if you have a strong immunity nothing happens. Lİke if you be careful and not to go Russian singer's concert in Odessa. So it is always your responsiblity to be carefull. Regarding quarantine when I was in Kyiv pandemy makes everything a little bit more difficult but not a big deal. For example partys never been announced openly in social media. You have to be in contact with local people and be a member of secret telegram groups. One night when I was in front of Buena Vista club, In freezing weather I knocked the door for a long time for the bodyguard to hear from downstairs. He heard it after 10 minutes and he came and open the door look right and left carefully and take me inside. It was like a James Bond movie. But all in all it was really enjoyable to be there. If I can find an opportunity I will try Minsk this time.

[Ringudor]

This is exactly when I want to travel. When naysayers say it is "too risky. ".

I guess you say that because now less foreigners, then girls work better, don't?

[DramaFree11]

This is exactly when I want to travel. When naysayers say it is "too risky. ".

OK, good luck with that.

[YummyPL]

Traveling international is just too risky now.

This is exactly when I want to travel. When naysayers say it is "too risky. ".

[YummyPL]

How are you guys doing in Kiev? You must be either enjoying yourselves too much to report your escapade or lucky enough to be in the scarce ICU in Kiev.

I just have nothing really new to report. I'm seeing my sponsorette overnight 4-5 nights a week and seeing 4 regulars mixed in. This is exactly where I want to be.

2 of my regulars are referrals from other girls. So I guess the only thing I have learned fairly recently is, there is no harm in asking a girl if they have any friends. If you treat them well, there is no reason for them to not give you a referral especially if you are not going to see them again.

[Ringudor]

Wow, this must be the longest period of inactivity in the history of this thread!

How are you guys doing in Kiev? You must be either enjoying yourselves too much to report your escapade or lucky enough to be in the scarce ICU in Kiev.

The only reason I'm not in Kiev now is to avoid a creepy Ukrainian ICU, anyway, I think I will try in February, we just live once.

[Sorbonne]

Wow, this must be the longest period of inactivity in the history of this thread!

How are you guys doing in Kiev? You must be either enjoying yourselves too much to report your escapade or lucky enough to be in the scarce ICU in Kiev.

[Iceberg27]

Why to this nosorog? Its so far from center, there are another 2 you can just go walking from khreshatyk just 15 minutes (mint and podil) or short time in taxi.

I know the one you say, I was 2 or 3 times, both I saw really pretty girls, but speaking bad English, and as its located far from center, it wasn't one of my favorites. Maybe I have been 30 times to different strip clubs in Kiev and never han an experience as you say, few times they removed my pants, but never were so far away, never removed boxer and of course never masturbated me, I think it was correct gave her 1000 grivna, 3 songs is the prize and also it has a extra sex service, if I was in Kiev I would go to this strip club tonight.

Who cares about English? There are a few girls speaks moderate english in Nosorof but I never give a shit to this. My favorite girl there has no English but wonderful curves. While I was watching her on stage, I was thinking how perfect she is. Also she was so warm in private dance. I didn't kiss with my GF like this. But all left in the past. Now I type this post in my boring office. The reasons that I prefer this club is previously explained but let me put it again. First I feel like the king there. Girls guys ratio are being so high always. What will I get from a private dance will be more than compared to touristic ones on Kreshtatik. Why should I take less for the same money? Just for your understanding I will tell you the music played there 70% russian and that means this place is mostly for locals and ukranians. It is not important to be outside of city because only 50 grivna and 15 minutes taxi journey will take you there from Arena City. In my previous visits, I have been in some of the other strip clubs and I didn't like them. Let s say Darling that is favorited by many people here will not be a place that I will visit again. It s like a fish market and interior design is so boring and suffocating. I know it is not same type but I am trying to tell that Salons or that kind of places is not my thing. I mean get inside see the girls and choose one of them in 1 minute. Fck with her and leave. No not to me.

Just saw your message. Just came back from Kiev myself was going to spend NYE there with one of the previously girls but ended up meeting someone.

SA is seeking arrangements.com.

Trip in Nov I stayed at in an apartment I found on booking.com.

This last trip I stayed at a hotel next to Gulliver for $40/ night I really liked this place price / location.

I personally do not like strip clubs. Only "day game" at the local malls and mamba / ig / Tinder. I'm mid 40's and come off maybe a decade younger, but that's what we all say LOL.

I met some good leads this time on mamba, SA and IG but didn't have enough time to meet them all. For people I know personally will give you the leads. Their IG ect. Message me. I know I prob won't be in touch with these leads again, use it or lose it. But part of the fun of every trip is to pipeline and meet new girls so I certainly don't mind. Some have messaged me and ask what I usually write to girls on IG or tinder and it's always the same. Tinder message sounds really cheesy I know but has a high success rate. Feel free to steal it. I put my age 14 year younger than I am.

I really need to figure out this Social Media game. Because my success rate is so low. I had opened Tinder two days before I arrive and maybe 40-50 matches and zero meetings. Girls are asking gifts or expensive dinners and this is also not my thing. When I spend money more than 200 grivna to a girls (that only can buy a couple of coffee) and get only a small kiss on return I really feel bad. I also never tried day game in malls but this can be something to me. More directs she likes you or not. There is no effort to convince her to meet in face to face. She is right there in front of you.

[Rob Hay]

Rob really interesting info. Sorry for my stupid question but what is SA? Snapchat? Regarding my visit I rented an apartment on Desyatynna Street on booking from Kiev Lodging. Maybe it would be better to be on Kreshtatik but I don't know. Accommodation prices was quite high. %52 occupancy ratio on Dobovo. After your post, I said maybe I should go to Minsk. Never been there. Have been in Ukraine many times. Honestly, on the lonely days of pandemic on my bed I was remembering my nights in Star Rhinoceros Strip Club on Maksyma Kryvonosa St, 27. Anyone been there before? Really nice place full of desperate 20's. I hope I can get there and I hope it continues to work when I am there. I never tried IG for getting girls. And honestly I am not very good in social media game. I can approach a girl on street. 41 years old looks much younger. No Russian. We will see. Have been in Kiev 3 times before. And anyone can suggest a nice MP? It is really a big pleasure for a very short price.

Just saw your message. Just came back from Kiev myself was going to spend NYE there with one of the previously girls but ended up meeting someone.

SA is seeking arrangements.com.

Trip in Nov I stayed at in an apartment I found on booking.com.

This last trip I stayed at a hotel next to Gulliver for $40/ night I really liked this place price / location.

I personally do not like strip clubs. Only "day game" at the local malls and mamba / ig / Tinder. I'm mid 40's and come off maybe a decade younger, but that's what we all say LOL.

I met some good leads this time on mamba, SA and IG but didn't have enough time to meet them all. For people I know personally will give you the leads. Their IG ect. Message me. I know I prob won't be in touch with these leads again, use it or lose it. But part of the fun of every trip is to pipeline and meet new girls so I certainly don't mind. Some have messaged me and ask what I usually write to girls on IG or tinder and it's always the same. Tinder message sounds really cheesy I know but has a high success rate. Feel free to steal it. I put my age 14 year younger than I am.