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  1. #12576
    Quote Originally Posted by IHeartIpa  [View Original Post]
    While that was the definition 30+ years ago. Now its kinda up to the point of view of the speaker. The majority of Indians don't even have access to a toilet, so I would definitely call India a 3rd world country.
    If you still think India to be a land of snake charmers and doom temple priests or what is shown in slumdog millionaire you are living under some rock. India is a third world country in the correct definition of the term by non aligning to US or communism. Calling India a third world country in a condescending tone shows your ignorance or false arrogance. You are out of tune with world order.

    Majority of Indians not having access to toilet? That may have been the situation 30+ years ago. 30+ years ago when free flowing water was available in plenty, people did their business near rivers and washed up. That was a much cleaner way of cleaning up, much more hygienic that your two ply extra soft tissues. Now that waters are drying up and considering safety for women the government has campaign against open defecation and has built multiple toilets. Before government built, there were community toilets. Also, when did toilets become year sticks of sort. Some other ars'e will next say he thinks Thailand should be considered a third world countries because they are a lady-boy driven economy or France should be third world country because they don't speak English. Laughable these pompous fools are.

    LC.

  2. #12575
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    I've noticed India's covid cases have declined significantly.
    I am seeing that many in India are less vigilant than they were 6 months ago. There are lots of people roaming around without mask and social distancing is difficult to implement. Only good thing is that the recovery rate is good. Maybe something to do with the non exposure to the newer variant or maybe something to do with the food or climate or genes.

    Let's hope the current situation improves. Can't wait to travel.

    LC.

  3. #12574

    Ask the Experts

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries.

    I seem to be the only one on Planet Earth who is not an expert on everything to do with Covid. According to the above link. Israel has 10 or so times more infection than Germany. The British PM was talking about herd immunity this time last year. Most are, of course, part of a herd, unable to think. Vaccines / DNA alterers have been rushed into people without the necessary checks and balances. Bill Crappy Software Gates and Tony War Criminal Blair endlessly expound that livestock must take the jab.

    The epidemiology experts have been proved wrong time and again on this. Not because they do not know but because they are heavily invested in vaccines and the companies that make them.

    Whatever happened to all those Chinese dropping dead? Are Italian churches still packed to the rafters with coffins and rotting corpses? When do services resume?

    There is a pandemic, more virulent than flus, which have disappeared. If you eat well, do not liv e with poor people or in an old folk's death home, you should be fine. Wake up and smell the pussy.

    Quote Originally Posted by AggieDad1  [View Original Post]
    Another factor would be the type of exposure or "virus load". Not all exposures are the same. But the Israel experience has been a very low infection rate in people who have been vaccinated (. 1% This is more than enough to cause the spread rate to drop below the point where the virus will die out (herd immunity). Also even without the vaccine the virus will not last forever. Despite the fear porn in the media these virus strains never last forever. Covid causes 15% of the common cold in a normal year and has been infecting humans for thousands of years. I find it interesting that some scientists now believe some previous bad flu outbreaks before the ability to identify the virus identification could have been Covid miss-identified as flu. Stay safe.

  4. #12573
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleBigMan  [View Original Post]
    From reading the articles being quoted the cases being cited are not coming from people who have gotten the vaccine. Yes we are talking about the unknown but in these cases, people who already had the virus the chances or length of reinfection might depend on how severe the first case?
    Another factor would be the type of exposure or "virus load". Not all exposures are the same. But the Israel experience has been a very low infection rate in people who have been vaccinated (. 1% This is more than enough to cause the spread rate to drop below the point where the virus will die out (herd immunity). Also even without the vaccine the virus will not last forever. Despite the fear porn in the media these virus strains never last forever. Covid causes 15% of the common cold in a normal year and has been infecting humans for thousands of years. I find it interesting that some scientists now believe some previous bad flu outbreaks before the ability to identify the virus identification could have been Covid miss-identified as flu. Stay safe.

  5. #12572
    Quote Originally Posted by LooseCannon  [View Original Post]
    AstraZeneca Vaccine mass produced in India can be stored in regular refrigerator freezer......
    I've noticed India's covid cases have declined significantly.

  6. #12571
    Quote Originally Posted by LooseCannon  [View Original Post]
    On a side note, third world countries are countries that are neither aligned to US and their allies nor to the communist block of countries such as erstwhile USSR, China. Third world countries are not necessarily impoverished as made out to be. India is a third world nation in the sense it is not aligned to US, west or Russia but is definitely not impoverished and has modern facilities in certain sectors comparable to so called first world countries.

    LC.
    While that was the definition 30+ years ago. Now its kinda up to the point of view of the speaker. The majority of Indians don't even have access to a toilet, so I would definitely call India a 3rd world country. In SEA Burma and Cambodia definitely are, Thailand is definitely above them in terms of development and infrastructure.

  7. #12570
    From reading the articles being quoted the cases being cited are not coming from people who have gotten the vaccine. Yes we are talking about the unknown but in these cases, people who already had the virus the chances or length of reinfection might depend on how severe the first case?

  8. #12569

    Not all is lost

    Quote Originally Posted by Sharka  [View Original Post]
    The latest intel on Covid vaccines is not good for any 3rd world country. (And eventually for all of us).

    1) most developed countries will certainly hold the vaccines for their citizens to be vaccinated first before mass distribution to 3rd world countries.

    2) the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines are problematic for 3rd world countries because of storage and shipping issues. (They require specialized deep freezers ex. Pfizer vaccines must be kept under -70 degrees, anything above that and its only good for 24 hrs after).

    3) because most 3rd world countries won't get their shots finished perhaps for years, this will allow a lot of time for mutant variants to develop and spread that no current vaccine can stop.

    Things are not looking good for planet earth.
    AstraZeneca Vaccine mass produced in India can be stored in regular refrigerator freezer. These can be supplied to countries that does not have facilities to store in cryogenic freezer. They are cheaper as well. The mass production capacity is the biggest. Some SEA countries, Brazil, mexico have already received a batch of the vaccine.

    The data available right now is not enough to produce vaccine that can take this disease to eradication level. It is too soon to expect that.

    On a side note, third world countries are countries that are neither aligned to US and their allies nor to the communist block of countries such as erstwhile USSR, China. Third world countries are not necessarily impoverished as made out to be. India is a third world nation in the sense it is not aligned to US, west or Russia but is definitely not impoverished and has modern facilities in certain sectors comparable to so called first world countries.

    LC.

  9. #12568
    Quote Originally Posted by YetAnotherGuy  [View Original Post]
    Congratulations! I think you'll be in good shape to go. From what I've read, your chance of getting Covid will be <= 5%, and your chance of getting a serious case will be around 0%. Of the known cases where a vaccinated person has become infected, virtually all were asymptomatic or had mild cases. Good luck!
    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...s-quickly-some

  10. #12567
    Quote Originally Posted by YetAnotherGuy  [View Original Post]
    Congratulations! I think you'll be in good shape to go. From what I've read, your chance of getting Covid will be <= 5%, and your chance of getting a serious case will be around 0%. Of the known cases where a vaccinated person has become infected, virtually all were asymptomatic or had mild cases. Good luck!
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/140456...rican-variant/

    Mutant strain Covid patient reinfected with South Africa variant in fighting for life in hospital.

    Ben Hill.

    14 Feb 2021,12:42 Updated: 14 Feb 2021,15:02.

    A COVID patient who was reinfected with the South African variant is fighting for his life in hospital.

    The 58-year-old man with a history of asthma caught the variant four months after recovering from Covid-19 in France, according to the Clinical Infectious Diseases journal.

  11. #12566
    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio  [View Original Post]
    Can you do a paragraph on Malaysia too please? I always trust your judgement. Thanks 😊.
    Not they guy you asked, but I have some Malaysia experience. Kuala Lumpur is great, cheaper than Bangkok for virtually everything except alcohol. Food is great and cheap, never rented an apartment, but with decent hotels for $20/ night (roughly half the Bangkok price), it can't be too much. 90-day stays without a visa are a big benefit too.

    Expat-oriented PFP bars are limited and expensive, but there used to be plenty of local spots where you could get a quickie for as low as 30 RM (250 baht), though typically 50-100 RM on the low end and 200 RM midrange (one and done service). That wouldn't even get you the entry fee at an expat place. Plenty of variety to choose from at the low end: mostly Vietnamese, PRC and Indonesian but also Indian, Bangladesh, even had a Sri Lanka-Australian mix once. Very few local Malaysians women for PFP, oddly, but they exist.

    This was all during normal times, nobody knows where it would settle after Covid.

    I get a sense that dating / freebies wouldn't be as easy as Thailand or Indonesia, as "good girls" in Malaysia often stay within the bubble of their own ethnic group, but it can't be too hard either.

  12. #12565
    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio  [View Original Post]
    Can you do a paragraph on Malaysia too please? I always trust your judgement. Thanks 😊.
    There were 2 main spots to hobby in Kuala Lumpur. Beach Club and Thai Club. Neither great but something to do in KL when you're on business there. One of the clubs shut down permanently a couple of weeks ago. Many Vietnamese girls but not hot like those you can find at Orchard Towers in Singapore. Hottest girl I ever saw at these clubs was a Thai girl. I would never go there to hobby. Decent clean city and good food. Not much to do, Indians very accepted in clubs for any Indians reading this.

  13. #12564

    This was on spot

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Thailand hands down. Even my friends that live in big $800/month houses budget $3000/month. My rent is only 4500 baht in South Pattaya, but if I ever retire then I will move into a 10,000 baht place in Jomtien where you get more for your money. I mostly cook or go to cheap places to eat. There are places that you can eat ribs for 150 baht and places where you can eat ribs for 600 baht. You can go to KFC for 150 baht, or you can eat fried chicken on the corner for 10 baht each piece. Pick your own poison.

    I have never had a problem getting free chicks although I do not necessarily seek it out. I just meet people and it falls into place like that. There is so much to keep me busy in Thailand that there is never a dull moment.

    If not Thailand, then I would be back in South America. My list in particular order is Brazil, Colombia, Dominican Republic, Peru.

    Vietnam I visited 4 cities over 10 days. Not a place I have to go back to, although it is very clean and one of the best countries I have been to. People are very nice. Everything was centered on the war. I like chicks with shapes and that is not Vietnam.

    Philippines dirty, overcrowded, and most are airheads. So if you need stimulating companionship you will be hard pressed to find it there. I was on a flight from Manila to Bangkok in first class on Philippine Air. I asked the lady for Grand Marnier and pineapple juice. When I got my drink it did not have Grand Marnier in it. When the lady came by I handed her my glass and said I asked for Grand Marnier and pineapple. She said sorry sir we do not have pineapple juice. No idea what she thought she was holding in her hand if it was not a glass full of pineapple juice.

    Cambodia, Laos? No fucking way. Just look in those threads and see how many posts there are from people that live there. For me Asia is Thailand or bust.

    P. S. My cousin lived in Malaysia because his wife was from there. He hated it. It is very prejudice and Islamic (no open fun). My cousin's wife went out to look for a new apartment for them. When they found out she had a little Black kid, they would not rent her the apartment. I have been there twice: once for tourism and once for scuba diving. Sipidan is in my top 5 places to dive. If I ever go back to Malaysia then it will be for diving.
    Including other than SEA.

  14. #12563
    Quote Originally Posted by YetAnotherGuy  [View Original Post]
    Congratulations! I think you'll be in good shape to go. From what I've read, your chance of getting Covid will be <= 5%, and your chance of getting a serious case will be around 0%. Of the known cases where a vaccinated person has become infected, virtually all were asymptomatic or had mild cases. Good luck!
    Thanks, it was a great relief to get that 2nd dose over with although my arm really hurt the following day. But other than that, there were no side effects and the nurse said it will take another 2 weeks to reach the maximum point of the vaccine's immunity.

    I am going to have a great time in Brazil. After all, it has been over 18 months since I left SE Asia and I have a lot of pent-up energy and excess cash to spend. 555. The Brazilian girls are going to love me, and I am going to love them. Ha! I will post my trip reports over in the RF and SP forums.

    And I am still hoping to return to BKK and Pattaya in October if the Thai Government lets me come back otherwise, I may just fly back to Brazil in the fall.

  15. #12562
    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    I am getting my 2nd Moderna shot this week and I am flying to Brazil in roughly 45 days. I realize I am taking a risk. But I don't care if I am wrong about the efficacy of the vaccine or my luck just runs out. I am not going to lose another year to this virus.
    Congratulations! I think you'll be in good shape to go. From what I've read, your chance of getting Covid will be <= 5%, and your chance of getting a serious case will be around 0%. Of the known cases where a vaccinated person has become infected, virtually all were asymptomatic or had mild cases. Good luck!

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