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[Phordphan]

So he could not have waited until they opened legally to do the same thing? This is why we should have professional jurors or minimum criteria for jurors. People get in there and start being led by their feelings and not the facts they are shown.

Just to be pedantic, he won't face a jury. There is no right to a trial by jury in Mexico. No jurors, AFAIK no live testimony at all. Everything is submitted, in writing, to a judge. This will drag on for months, maybe a couple of years.

[Dickus Maximus]

But. He didn't hook up on the outside, he did so from a club he was at. And was why he was at the club hotel.

By this logic we should close all the clubs permanently so this can never happen again.

We should probably outlaw marriage as well, because sometime during divorce people go crazy and kill their ex.

You're confusing location and timing with causation. The cause is simple. The dude was a jealous PLM. It could have happened anywhere at any time. It's purely coincidence that it happened where it did.

[Elvis 2008]

We should jail his parents because if they hadn't had sex, this never would have happened.

Sorry for the sarcasm. But really, there is only one person responsible for this depraved act.

Totally agree, DM. When you play the blame game, I think people have to be aware of the lawyer factor. They always blame the party with the most money or the money that can most easily be gotten to.

So the club has money and it is easy to get to. In the USA, the government has the most money but they own the judges who have often given them immunity so it is rare that governments are held responsible for anything. It takes an incident as big as the Texas blackouts to hold government responsible for anything. When you play the red-blue game, all the supposedly nonpartisan government bureaucrats are going to go free from blame.

I will say the one time I saw government held accountable was when there was a fire in Argentina that killed dozens. The club was not blamed. The people were furious with the fire inspector and demanded his resignation. I thought at the time, "No way that happens in the USA".

Yes, it is the shooter's fault. Still, the government is trying to pass the buck and blame the clubs and as you can see it did work with some members here.

The fact that the government is pointing the finger is bothersome to me, and while it is not their fault, it shows me that they feel guilt over this incident and wanted to take it out on the club.

[Ctytek]

I guess you won't ever know unless you ask why he went there at all.

But. He didn't hook up on the outside, he did so from a club he was at. And was why he was at the club hotel.

It's not a complicated set of events to chain together as -a- chain of events.

You are completely missing the point and making nonsensical logical leaps.

Whether the murderer came out of a legally opened club, illegally opened club, a hotel, a cafe, a street, all those things are irrelevant. What is relevant is the fact that the dude who committed the crime, and he and no one else is guilty of the crime. To make a scapegoat of a venue which was last attended by the murderer (whether that venue happened to comply with regulations to be legally opened or not) makes no sense.

[Mr Enternational]

If they were closed, as they should have been, dude never would have visited, this would never have happened.

So he could not have waited until they opened legally to do the same thing? This is why we should have professional jurors or minimum criteria for jurors. People get in there and start being led by their feelings and not the facts they are shown.

[KetoAndKettle]

I think it's possible that the guard (s) at the Tijuana prison / jail will somehow look another way, while some prisoners have their way with him (not necessarily talking bubba type thing).

This heinous thing he did, is on camera, available to all after all. There's a 50/50 chance, I'm thinking, of him staying alive by the time he ever gets deported back to US if that happens.

[SpeedToys]

That's sort of an irrelevant correlation without causation. Dude could have been staying in the hotel. Hotels are officially permitted to be open. According to the reports. He also knew the chica prior. There are too many variables and "what ifs" here. Crime happens all over Tijuana for different reasons. To blame this tragic episode on speakeasies and pandemic is dumb.

I guess you won't ever know unless you ask why he went there at all.

But. He didn't hook up on the outside, he did so from a club he was at. And was why he was at the club hotel.

It's not a complicated set of events to chain together as -a- chain of events.

[SpeedToys]

We should jail his parents because if they hadn't had sex, this never would have happened.

Sorry for the sarcasm. But really, there is only one person responsible for this depraved act.

Yes, and he came to party at a club (s) that should have been closed.

He didn't just *pop* exist there without a reason to want to be there.

[Dickus Maximus]

If they were closed, as they should have been, dude never would have visited, this would never have happened.

We should jail his parents because if they hadn't had sex, this never would have happened.

Sorry for the sarcasm. But really, there is only one person responsible for this depraved act.

[Ctytek]

If they were closed, as they should have been, dude never would have visited, this would never have happened.

That's sort of an irrelevant correlation without causation. Dude could have been staying in the hotel. Hotels are officially permitted to be open. According to the reports. He also knew the chica prior. There are too many variables and "what ifs" here. Crime happens all over Tijuana for different reasons. To blame this tragic episode on speakeasies and pandemic is dumb.

[SpeedToys]

What does pandemic have to do with this murder?

If they were closed, as they should have been, dude never would have visited, this would never have happened.

[Ctytek]

Many may disagree but I think the club should be punished harshly. They're operating illegally in a pandemic and should be held accountable for their employee. Hefty fines and maybe shut down for a period of time. Moe.

What does pandemic have to do with this murder? Plenty of crime happens in hotels and bars all over the world, before, during and after pandemic. By your logic, the entire city of Tijuana should be shut down, as dozens of people get murdered on the city streets daily.

I am not say this murder isn't tragic. It is. But let's not get silly here.

[MemoeNasty]

I'm wondering if this is where Logan Kelley, the killer, will end up. It's La Mesa prison, located in Tijuana. After watching the video below, it doesn't seem like La Mesa prison is much fun. Hope he suffers. I think he just threw his life away.

https://youtu.be/jqi4ZpR2OWI

He'll spend a lot of time in Mexico because their judicial system is very slow. Eventually he will be extradited to the United States because Mexico will not want to take care of him for the rest of his natural life. As far as I know Mexico does not have a death penalty but murder does carry a life sentence. Once he is in the United States he will spend some time in prison but will eventually be let out. I expect this whole process to take 10-15 years. I read that he is 26 years old. I expect him to be out by the time he's 40-45. I don't know why this happened but the pics of this dead chica laying on the floor with towels covering her and blood everywhere is the sickest thing I've seen happen in the zona. It looks like something out of a horror movie. Many may disagree but I think the club should be punished harshly. They're operating illegally in a pandemic and should be held accountable for their employee. Hefty fines and maybe shut down for a period of time. Moe.

[Fryer45]

Be careful this weekend. Link: https://www.elimparcial.com/tijuana/...0217-0034.html.

Fryer.

[BigButtDetecto]

I hope this is true and that you're right. I hope this idiot murderer gets life in prison and suffers every day. But I don't know how much faith I have in the Mexican criminal justice system that they will properly punish this guy. If this guy's family can put up 5 or 10 grand or more that might go a long way in getting him a good plea deal or a light prison sentence. And once he's in prison if he has money coming from friends family he'll live comfortably. And I don't really think many Mexican criminals really give a damn or are offended by some guy killing a prostitute, so I doubt his fellow inmates will attack him based on what he did. Honestly I'd prefer he get extradited and prosecuted in the US where I have more faith in the courts and prison system.

US prisons are not much better than the Mexican ones.