German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Mr Ho]

Fully agree with you, most of the girls don t want to learn a job, they just want to be a boss and usually they fail. Of course you have exceptions, girls who pass the driving license, return to school to learn a job but it is really not the vast majority. Imagine a veteran girl after 5 years in a FKK what additional skills have she acquired, sucking, fucking, smoking, drinking, may be taking drug all this have 0 value in normal life.

They surely learnt how to suck and lick dick good LOL!

[Pistons]

"Pimping percentage is far less at FKK" I can t agree with you, the vast majority of the girls in FKK have a so called BF may be not a pimp but a BF who is taking care of most of the practical aspects of the job: finding a new FKK, or escort somewhere in Europe, renting the apartment, driving the girls back to home and drop them to the job. Transfer the money to Romania, most of the girls have no bank account in Germany and no driving license.

Well, given the context of my posts, I assumed it was clear what I meant by pimping percentage.

By pimping, or pimps in this context, I am referring to tax authorities, agencies, landlords etc etc. And I define all workers in all jobs as prostitutes. From doctors and nurses to McDonald's employees.

And you don't seem to have a clear overview on how the system of supply and demand in the p6 industry in Europe works, but no need for me to write that down here. But the so-called boyfriends are hardly the ones pulling the strings. It is simply just supply and demand. And through networking, the get to know where to go. The cost of this networking can be compared to Webcam agencies, but far far cheaper. And there are no absolute need for them to be affiliated either, but it might give them more intel on where the money is to be found. In a way it works like a marketing bureau. Then again, the actual marketing companies operating on behalf of the Webcam sites adds an extra layer on top of this again. Thus reducing their salaries even further. So I doubt many girls find great income in that. FKKs should be far more lucrative.

[Sirioja]

In FKKs the working hours are longer, girls have to sit around (semi) naked all the time, they need more clients to make money. On the upside, there is a steady stream of potential clients, there is much less risk if there are disagreements with the clients, getting paid, safety issues.

Escorts often need to advertise with pictures showing their face to get business, they will meet clients that they haven't even seen before, both outcalls or incalls can be risky. In FKKs they can vet the most obvious creeps during a 5 minutes discussion, plus they can get info from the other girls how the client is. Escorts could use the downtime between bookings for personal stuff.

Horses for courses.

Disclaimer: I don't know any girl that did only escorting. I know girls that worked only in FKKs, or worked both FKKs and escorting.

At Big Sharks south Frankfurt, girls can arrive and leave when they want, why some girls like this club for freedom, even business fell with many Balkanians now at night, same like at Globe.

[ExpatLover]

A guy that actually knows what he's talking about. Most WGs especially veterans aren't going to find a good normal job or work at the supermarket. They open up salons and its about supply and demand. The crisis was already hard on that industry and it's not like many of them have management skills to run a business once in a while you'll get one that is successful but most will fail and burn their savings.

Fully agree with you, most of the girls don t want to learn a job, they just want to be a boss and usually they fail. Of course you have exceptions, girls who pass the driving license, return to school to learn a job but it is really not the vast majority. Imagine a veteran girl after 5 years in a FKK what additional skills have she acquired, sucking, fucking, smoking, drinking, may be taking drug all this have 0 value in normal life.

[ExpatLover]

Every single one of my favourite girls I have met at FKK's have mainly worked at FKK's. In my experience it is the 2nd rate girls who claim they have worked in London or somewhere as escort. And although they may be able to get a higher hourly pay there, the time lost between the rooms are much longer. And other factors also reduces the fun of working from private apartments. Stupid landlords, drunk English customers etc etc.

How to you know that? If it is just by listening to the girl? Never believe any world from a prostitute. I can guarantee you that the majority of the girls in FKK have or done or will do other activities like escort, working in Spain, Ireland, Belgium, Holland, London, Switzerland than just FKK. For most of the girls when they are new in a FKK the business is very good but after several days, weeks the business is slowing down just because the mongers need new girls all the time. To maintain their income the girls have to go to another FKK or trying escort. Apartments.

[Mr Ho]

"Pimping percentage is far less at FKK" I can t agree with you, the vast majority of the girls in FKK have a so called BF may be not a pimp but a BF who is taking care of most of the practical aspects of the job: finding a new FKK, or escort somewhere in Europe, renting the apartment, driving the girls back to home and drop them to the job. Transfer the money to Romania, most of the girls have no bank account in Germany and no driving license.

Pimps and boyfriends, loverboys and relates system or platforms are monger's friends, they send girls we fuck into FKK! So I am grateful for their service and they are grateful for our money, we support each other! And their price strategy is very reasonable even with upsell of 150 euro per hour!

[Mr Ho]

Every single one of my favourite girls I have met at FKK's have mainly worked at FKK's. In my experience it is the 2nd rate girls who claim they have worked in London or somewhere as escort. And although they may be able to get a higher hourly pay there, the time lost between the rooms are much longer. And other factors also reduces the fun of working from private apartments. Stupid landlords, drunk English customers etc etc.

Some yes, but I only go with top stunners and some of them do work in top escort because they advertise me their agency's site because they are not in FKK most of times, but the agency charges like 500 euro per hour and I pay 150 euro on FKK, so why the hell do I book them through agency when they are not in FKK? Because when they are in FKK and I find them, I make sure I repeat and do all the hentai wishes dirty sex that I can possibly think of, so I am already satisfied with her after 2 or 3 repeated sessions at FKK, my hentai wishes has been fulfilled LOL! So some of them do work in good top agencies, as for some Romanians I do not believe a damn word LOL!

[Mr Ho]

Unless he is just confused by the fact that most girls who travel to work in FKK's tell their friends and family in Romania that went to Germany to work at a Chanel or Gucci store in the first place.

They usually work in cafe, bar or restaurant or sometimes event company, well FKK is kinda event company providing them the platform to provide us mongers with sexual event called sex LOL! So they can buy Chanel and Gucci with the money they earned from us LOL!

So they ain't lying totally LOL!

[ExpatLover]

Regarding the girls income during the pandemic. I wonder how the camgirl business is going for some girls. How much those girls earn etc. I know they don't get much more than small cut of the money there. But I wonder if there is any overlap at all between FKK girls and camgirls. Or if camgirls are just stuck as camgirls for 10 years at a time. Some investigation has lead me to think that marketing bureaus are taking maybe 25%. Then out of the rest of the cut, the camgirl bureaus / agencies (if they work from those), like one pretty central in Bucharest is taking maybe 50% of the remaining share. And a lot of them are just sitting idle. I would never spend any money on any of them, since I fear it will make them stuck in a bad business. FKK's should be better for them, and the pimping percentage is far less at FKK's.

"Pimping percentage is far less at FKK" I can t agree with you, the vast majority of the girls in FKK have a so called BF may be not a pimp but a BF who is taking care of most of the practical aspects of the job: finding a new FKK, or escort somewhere in Europe, renting the apartment, driving the girls back to home and drop them to the job. Transfer the money to Romania, most of the girls have no bank account in Germany and no driving license.

[PaulInZurich]

Every single one of my favourite girls I have met at FKK's have mainly worked at FKK's. In my experience it is the 2nd rate girls who claim they have worked in London or somewhere as escort. And although they may be able to get a higher hourly pay there, the time lost between the rooms are much longer. And other factors also reduces the fun of working from private apartments. Stupid landlords, drunk English customers etc etc.

In FKKs the working hours are longer, girls have to sit around (semi) naked all the time, they need more clients to make money. On the upside, there is a steady stream of potential clients, there is much less risk if there are disagreements with the clients, getting paid, safety issues.

Escorts often need to advertise with pictures showing their face to get business, they will meet clients that they haven't even seen before, both outcalls or incalls can be risky. In FKKs they can vet the most obvious creeps during a 5 minutes discussion, plus they can get info from the other girls how the client is. Escorts could use the downtime between bookings for personal stuff.

Horses for courses.

Disclaimer: I don't know any girl that did only escorting. I know girls that worked only in FKKs, or worked both FKKs and escorting.

[Palcon]

You have a point here. Quite a few of the girls that I know opened something related to the beauty industry. I wonder how many clients they have especially with the restrictions that are in Romania too. I guess they have spent somewhat less than previous because of traveling restrictions.

A lot of the WGs seem to have "invested" in lips and boobs. I swear all the pics I saw of these girls since spring 2020 shows new lips, new boobs or new tattoos.

A guy that actually knows what he's talking about. Most WGs especially veterans aren't going to find a good normal job or work at the supermarket. They open up salons and its about supply and demand. The crisis was already hard on that industry and it's not like many of them have management skills to run a business once in a while you'll get one that is successful but most will fail and burn their savings.

[Mr Ho]

Offering Sex in return for money works like any other services. You are more likely to get more customer if offer your services in a wider market. An FKK is doing a great job, it works like a market, matching the service providers and those who need that service to meet each other's.

When people could sell their services in an open market than it will help to increase the market efficiency. It will reduce the dependency of the intermediary, the middleman. For us punters, it will reduce the cost of punting.

FKK could do better if they build their premises very close to public transport hub. Not necessarily on the city but people should be able to reach them via public transport easily. Alternatively, they should provide a frequent commuting service from a public transport hub 24/7.

Well, fed restrict the area where you can open FKK, but hey, most FKK I go to are very accessible with public transport, palace, Artemis, LR, sharks, I went only with train and foot and even FKK ocean I went with train and food one time as bus station was under construction and decided to walk, I got lost and ended up in forest at around 7 pm in German winter with no wifi, what a monger do for beautiful young stunner pussy hey LOL! I did get there eventually LOL! Most FKK can be done with train and foot or bus, my personal experience! Also combine it with taxi makes it even easier, as taxi ride is usually around 15 euro from closest station, not even!

Yeah, talk about amazon, but FKK is best format that I have seen where almost normal girls could be even seen during summer, well at least back in early 2010's LOL!

[Pistons]

Regarding the girls income during the pandemic. I wonder how the camgirl business is going for some girls. How much those girls earn etc. I know they don't get much more than small cut of the money there. But I wonder if there is any overlap at all between FKK girls and camgirls. Or if camgirls are just stuck as camgirls for 10 years at a time. Some investigation has lead me to think that marketing bureaus are taking maybe 25%. Then out of the rest of the cut, the camgirl bureaus / agencies (if they work from those), like one pretty central in Bucharest is taking maybe 50% of the remaining share. And a lot of them are just sitting idle. I would never spend any money on any of them, since I fear it will make them stuck in a bad business. FKK's should be better for them, and the pimping percentage is far less at FKK's.

[Pistons]

I think girls just have set of guys who use them as some kind of escort or some sex arrangement during pandemic, which supported them to survive, but FKK by far makes more money than private deals, so girls will eventually come back once FKK is fully open, but not semi open! This is the reason we get top escort girls in FKK sometimes once in blue moon because FKK is lucrative deals even for them during low season! And FKK is more free trade for them with more freedom! Aren't we lucky LOL!

Every single one of my favourite girls I have met at FKK's have mainly worked at FKK's. In my experience it is the 2nd rate girls who claim they have worked in London or somewhere as escort. And although they may be able to get a higher hourly pay there, the time lost between the rooms are much longer. And other factors also reduces the fun of working from private apartments. Stupid landlords, drunk English customers etc etc.

[Adindas]

I think girls just have set of guys who use them as some kind of escort or some sex arrangement during pandemic, which supported them to survive, but FKK by far makes more money than private deals, so girls will eventually come back once FKK is fully open, but not semi open! This is the reason we get top escort girls in FKK sometimes once in blue moon because FKK is lucrative deals even for them during low season! And FKK is more free trade for them with more freedom! Aren't we lucky LOL!

Offering Sex in return for money works like any other services. You are more likely to get more customer if offer your services in a wider market. An FKK is doing a great job, it works like a market, matching the service providers and those who need that service to meet each other's.

When people could sell their services in an open market than it will help to increase the market efficiency. It will reduce the dependency of the intermediary, the middleman. For us punters, it will reduce the cost of punting.

FKK could do better if they build their premises very close to public transport hub. Not necessarily on the city but people should be able to reach them via public transport easily. Alternatively, they should provide a frequent commuting service from a public transport hub 24/7.