Manila

[Turgid]

.... I don't think I've ever said "it's my money, I'll do as I please. "....

Why not? Wouldn't you like to pay a Filipina hooker US $1000 for a night's service a piss off so many guys on this board?

[Pinaypounder]

More power to you, and I truly wish, your generosity was genuine and boundless. But I wonder would you be as generous if there wasn't the attached prospect / hope of fucking the ladies you are generous to. I read so many post chiding those of us who pay the minimum or "local price", whether it be 500-1000-2000, claiming we are stingy and how much it is cheaper than Sydney / Vancouver / Timbuktu, as there you cannot get a pretty lady for 200-300 etc so we should be more than happy to pay much closer to the Syd / Van price, but in response when asked if their generosity extends to the lady at the foodcart, or the hotel maid or the tuktuk driver do they also try and pay prices closer to the home price, so as to be more socially equitable they always avoid answering.

Personally if you want to be generous with your money just walk out your hotel door, see little kids drinking from pools of water on Manila walkways, see your jeepney drivers tin shack huts, giving them money will ensure you are helping someone in genuine need, rather than giving money some to girl you met online who is crying poor (genuine or not is not totally unknown). ID rather know I wasn't being scammed and giving money to the genuine poor rather risk being scammed by a girls who I think may one day give me the pussy in gratitude.

I agree 1000% lots of good people can use a hand up in the Philippines.

99% of us here are in pursuit of good pussy are proper prices.

Overpaying a girl ensures her family gets 5% while she gets a new Ipad, iphone another pair of shoes and the ability to brag to her friends while making it a bit more difficult for the rest of us. You ain't doing nothing good but satisfying your own ego that you can. IF you can then give to a church.

The girls do have the ability to separate the over payers from the other guys. Personally I always go with being nice and being clean, being lucid or entirely sober and treating them well as opposed to bribing them.

Look back at your professional lives did you ever enjoy being bribed or forced? Most humans do things willingly and we all justify our actions to get things to get what we want, I go further and do my best to make it enjoyable. As proffered above many freebies, genuine actual freebies have found me and I accept them as I "earned" them and no I would never take from a poor person.

The best story of this was in Angeles a few years back I met a guy who liked to watch others fuck his crush. And he paid to rent the crush. OF course I thought this was fantastic and I fucked his favorite 75 lb pro well one evening.

She stayed the night (he left) I bought her breakfast and treated her like a proper human being. The rest of that trip she would arrive at my door after work 2 - 4 am (no bidding or requests on my part) and spend the night and have sex with me like friends or maybe for a free 100 peso breakfast I guess. We became "friends" but then a rich suitor took her.

Given the opportunity and we all have that opportunity be nice.

I never overpay girls for sex, but I do give on the streets. I tip cabbies (their actual costs there fuel car taxes are the same as we have here but they cost a fraction) but never overpay their no meter BS. I do buy things from the street vendors, tip good hotel staff but again I never over pay for anything.

Easy to do the "right" thing. Every girl I fucked chose to be there, every Girl! And almost all had a good time because I tried to make it a good time. I think 7 to 10 times there was no connection or they lied so they got 2 - 500 pesos and shown the door, never ever ever Pay for shit service ever and if they provide as promised always pay.

Now if you are an unwashed, chain smoking, halitosis breathing alcoholic well then likely you need to pay more and rightfully so that is obvious. But do it willingly as you are hideous to be with at least be honest about that and thank god you can get laid at all.

Sex is my religion its something I love and something I want to do with willing participants so that it is even better, I love making them cum and love when they want more.

If I see trouble I help anyone that is being forced against their will and have.

I think its pretty easy to be a good guy. Spreading good karma begets good karma. Easy to make almost all people smile there other than just bargirls.

And my final judgmental point as I know several families there across the economic spectrum. Don't fucking meet the parents of someone you have no interest in. It is embarrassing for all parties. Trust me good people don't care that you are "rich and not Filipino". No one needs that karma.

PP.

[SinfullyKorean]

I challenge anyone to find posts of mine where I begrudged someone else paying more than me, what I have posted was xyz was available for less, I pointed out the hypocrisy of guys who says girls should be paid more due to some social justice equality BS, when they were unwilling to pay more to locals who weren't available for them to fuck and lastly I posted directly to guys like Blanq and Sinfullykorean, that if they say its their own money and they can pay as they please then why ask questions like how much its costs to live in xyz when you you have the attitude that you will pay as you please etc so if it costs me 1000 p and you will pay as you please how is my budget relevant to you, or why lament that "they wish people would just come here and share good intel".

I'm not quite sure what you're insinuating. I try to put in my DD and RTFF. Sometimes, it's hard to sift through all the BS that goes on and find the relevant info. I appreciate the help when it's given and call out the bullshit from people who aren't helpful.

I've been asking about costs of hobbying and living as a monger in various forums because I'm getting ready to retire. I don't think I've ever said "it's my money, I'll do as I please. " Especially to someone who's trying to be helpful. When I ask about the cost of living, it's to maximize my retirement funds.

Honestly, I was curious as to what you're talking about, so I went back through all my post history and I don't think I've ever posted anything like that after inquiring about living costs.

The one time you might be alluding to is when I made my first trip out to Vietnam 2 years ago on a 3 day trip. I tried the hot tocs, blow job bars, nightclubs, massage shops, etc in the short 3 days. If I stayed longer, as I'm planning on doing in the future, I'll try much harder to play the longer and cheaper game. But I'm sure you can understand the difference in the mindset of a weekend warrior vs a retiree? Also, if it really is from my post 2 years ago. Maybe it's time to let go?

[Jaishankararyan]

Well said 👏128079;128079;.

Bottom line. We are ALL members of ISG for ONE purpose and ONE purpose only.

To find reliable intel on where to spend our money for our hobby. And while we're at it, to get it for as cheaply (local rates) as possible so we could get it at reasonable price and walk away happy and not feel cheated.

That's my take on this discussion.

Cheers.

[MutantChicken]

There should be no shame in it. What I take issue with is, is the condescending tone with which the board members who pay more use against the board members who pay less. And I'm with mutant chicken on this one. It's usually the guys who pay more who have no patience to do any of their own ground work or even read the forums who come to the board and ask the members who pay less where to go to find hot women. Why even help these types of people? I know MutantChickens playground is Vietnam which continues to be a great place for high quality / price ratios, but its a tough place to crack because not as much info is shared. Good for him. I don't see any incentive for people like MutantChicken who knows the scene there to help people who are going to come in and ruin the game for others.

Since my name was mentioned I'll add another 2 cents worth of opinion. Firstly someone has to have failed maths, if they think someone paying 1500p as opposed to say for example 3000p (a mere difference of 30 dollars, calculated over the average of say 1 girl a day over 2 weeks vacation) = 420 x 2-3 trips a year = max 1500. So this figure of 1500 per annum translates to the former being "less financially endowed" than the latter?

I put it forward, that the guy paying 1500, refuses to be charged a surcharge, that is more than likely due to be old, fat, clueless, simpering or just being a bad negotiator. Just like if you go into a car dealership and negotiate 10 k off the car, or you hire a plumber and negotiate 1 k off the job price, bargaining has nothing to do whether you can afford it or not is just simply good smart business. Similarly you wouldn't go into mcD and order a 1 dollar burger and then pay 20 dollars just because you can afford it.

Someone is now going to say how a girl isn't a burger or isn't a car and so the same comparisons can't be made, well my answer is these girls survived well before I turned up, they were happy to fuck their local boyfriends for free, they were happy to accept 500 p from the locals for some boom boom or the dive master when bills were due, and they were happy with my 1000 p given the repeats available to me. Any more excuses put forth to counter my points are pure simpering.

I challenge anyone to find posts of mine where I begrudged someone else paying more than me, what I have posted was xyz was available for less, I pointed out the hypocrisy of guys who says girls should be paid more due to some social justice equality BS, when they were unwilling to pay more to locals who weren't available for them to fuck and lastly I posted directly to guys like Blanq and Sinfullykorean, that if they say its their own money and they can pay as they please then why ask questions like how much its costs to live in xyz when you you have the attitude that you will pay as you please etc so if it costs me 1000 p and you will pay as you please how is my budget relevant to you, or why lament that "they wish people would just come here and share good intel".

Yeah. I wish that too. But all RR does is talk down other mongers on their choice of girls and the prices they pay. And this is across threads. Cambodia, Vietnam, Thailand. Indonesia. You name it. Just wish people would share meaningful intelligence rather than simply play Monday morning quarterback. Nothing personal against RR, but the condescending narrative gets tiring.

So you tell everyone its your money and you can pay what you want and then you say why don't people share meaningful intel because you are not happy with the overpriced and mercenary women available

And we are now left with a half-ass night life with deplorable places like Ipanema when over the hill hookers demand $200 for ST. Sure, the girls are Brix are decidedly better looking and carry themselves well. But with a price tag of over $400 simply does not cut ice with me. Did I tell you about the uber hot chicks at Karaoke joints around town? You might have to drop $1000 just to get started with a girl. Try China Doll if interested.

[Kazeu]

What is often forgotten is that John's often fit into different groups and these are able and willing to pay different rates. A guy in town for 2 days business who wants to get laid tonight views everything completely differently to a Resident who can meet the girl when ever mutually convenient. Of course, the girls recognise this and present themselves at various price points accordingly.

It's not unusual for a 5000 p K-girl to make a quick phone call and accept 500 p from a local dive master when the rent is due.

I don't see any shame in being in either category.

There should be no shame in it. What I take issue with is, is the condescending tone with which the board members who pay more use against the board members who pay less. And I'm with mutant chicken on this one. It's usually the guys who pay more who have no patience to do any of their own ground work or even read the forums who come to the board and ask the members who pay less where to go to find hot women. Why even help these types of people? I know MutantChickens playground is Vietnam which continues to be a great place for high quality / price ratios, but its a tough place to crack because not as much info is shared. Good for him. I don't see any incentive for people like MutantChicken who knows the scene there to help people who are going to come in and ruin the game for others.

[Goferring]

The members who tell others how much to pay are not too well endowed financially and think that other members paying what they think is too much will cause an increase in prices. All human beings seek happiness and my bottom line is to do whatever makes you happy as long as you are not harming others.

What is often forgotten is that John's often fit into different groups and these are able and willing to pay different rates. A guy in town for 2 days business who wants to get laid tonight views everything completely differently to a Resident who can meet the girl when ever mutually convenient. Of course, the girls recognise this and present themselves at various price points accordingly.

It's not unusual for a 5000 p K-girl to make a quick phone call and accept 500 p from a local dive master when the rent is due.

I don't see any shame in being in either category.

[Turgid]

Quite a few members purpose are here to tell us how much to pay, when to pay and who to pay. How much to tip.

The members who tell others how much to pay are not too well endowed financially and think that other members paying what they think is too much will cause an increase in prices. All human beings seek happiness and my bottom line is to do whatever makes you happy as long as you are not harming others.

[Dg8787]

Bottom line. We are ALL members of ISG for ONE purpose and ONE purpose only.

To find reliable intel on where to spend our money for our hobby. And while we're at it, to get it for as cheaply (local rates) as possible so we could get it at reasonable price and walk away happy and not feel cheated.

That's my take on this discussion.

Cheers.

Quite a few members purpose are here to tell us how much to pay, when to pay and who to pay. How much to tip.

[Sharka]

Bottom line. We are ALL members of ISG for ONE purpose and ONE purpose only.

To find reliable intel on where to spend our money for our hobby. And while we're at it, to get it for as cheaply (local rates) as possible so we could get it at reasonable price and walk away happy and not feel cheated.

That's my take on this discussion.

Cheers.

[MutantChicken]

"Personally. ". Yes, you do you. I don't think anyone here's claiming to be altruistic. Nobody's taking a holier than thou stance here, except people calling them out.

Everyone here's here for 1 thing, and that's to get laid. So should it surprise you to hear that a guy's giving some money to a prostitute to get better service? Is it his primary motive for giving money to them? Is it his secondary? Does it matter?

How about you spend money as you see fit and I'll spend mine the way I want to?

Great, but this is where I have a issue.

If you aren't giving money away altruistically, where do you get off chiding others for "having a hot penis and a cold heart", your heart isn't any warmer when you give money with a ulterior motive, if anything its worse because you are being duplicitous and manipulative. Then to top it off you say "How about you spend money as you see fit and I'll spend mine the way I want to?" What happened to the first part of me paying how I want to.

What's equally humorous, is I recall you asking on the Vietnam thread how much it would cost to live there when you get regular access to 10 dollar spinner 19 yr old hotties posted on the picture thread, which by implication the next question would be how to access these bargain cuties. Notice how across the boards no one is sharing any really good intel how to find bargains and where to find gems? Well the answer may have something to do with guys saying its their money and they can pay as they please at the same time they are asking for good actionable intel for low prices attractive women. Then after over paying calling other cheap Charlie as a justification for overpaying.

This is the reason I will remain tight lipped about a manila massage parlour where FS is available with these girls for 2500, that way Ill pay what I please, and you can go to Kojax etc and pay 6000 for similar girls then claim you can pay how you want to.

FYI not my pics I'm not in country but I'm tight with many parlour mamasons who whatsapp / viber me pics if their current lineup.

[SinfullyKorean]

More power to you, and I truly wish, your generosity was genuine and boundless. But I wonder would you be as generous if there wasn't the attached prospect / hope of fucking the ladies you are generous to. I read so many post chiding those of us who pay the minimum or "local price", whether it be 500-1000-2000, claiming we are stingy and how much it is cheaper than Sydney / Vancouver / Timbuktu, as there you cannot get a pretty lady for 200-300 etc so we should be more than happy to pay much closer to the Syd / Van price, but in response when asked if their generosity extends to the lady at the foodcart, or the hotel maid or the tuktuk driver do they also try and pay prices closer to the home price, so as to be more socially equitable they always avoid answering.

Personally if you want to be generous with your money just walk out your hotel door, see little kids drinking from pools of water on Manila walkways, see your jeepney drivers tin shack huts, giving them money will ensure you are helping someone in genuine need, rather than giving money some to girl you met online who is crying poor (genuine or not is not totally unknown). ID rather know I wasn't being scammed and giving money to the genuine poor rather risk being scammed by a girls who I think may one day give me the pussy in gratitude.

"Personally. ". Yes, you do you. I don't think anyone here's claiming to be altruistic. Nobody's taking a holier than thou stance here, except people calling them out.

Everyone here's here for 1 thing, and that's to get laid. So should it surprise you to hear that a guy's giving some money to a prostitute to get better service? Is it his primary motive for giving money to them? Is it his secondary? Does it matter?

How about you spend money as you see fit and I'll spend mine the way I want to?

[MutantChicken]

You guys seem to have hot penises but cold hearts. I can't be like that. Some girls will scam, others will have shit happen to them. I will decide what to do depending on the circumstances. The cash I part with will not hurt me in any way. I'd rather be scammed in that manner than to be hard-hearted.

More power to you, and I truly wish, your generosity was genuine and boundless. But I wonder would you be as generous if there wasn't the attached prospect / hope of fucking the ladies you are generous to. I read so many post chiding those of us who pay the minimum or "local price", whether it be 500-1000-2000, claiming we are stingy and how much it is cheaper than Sydney / Vancouver / Timbuktu, as there you cannot get a pretty lady for 200-300 etc so we should be more than happy to pay much closer to the Syd / Van price, but in response when asked if their generosity extends to the lady at the foodcart, or the hotel maid or the tuktuk driver do they also try and pay prices closer to the home price, so as to be more socially equitable they always avoid answering.

Personally if you want to be generous with your money just walk out your hotel door, see little kids drinking from pools of water on Manila walkways, see your jeepney drivers tin shack huts, giving them money will ensure you are helping someone in genuine need, rather than giving money some to girl you met online who is crying poor (genuine or not is not totally unknown). ID rather know I wasn't being scammed and giving money to the genuine poor rather risk being scammed by a girls who I think may one day give me the pussy in gratitude.

[Turgid]

All girls wants money. Now it is due to pandemic. Other times it is typhoon, Buffalo sick, parents sick, hungry, lost job, my cousin once removed need operation well you get my drift. Reason lists are endless.....

You guys seem to have hot penises but cold hearts. I can't be like that. Some girls will scam, others will have shit happen to them. I will decide what to do depending on the circumstances. The cash I part with will not hurt me in any way. I'd rather be scammed in that manner than to be hard-hearted.

[Sammon]

The girl with the asthma daughter never hit me for support. But I lost contact with her as I assume she either lost her phone or something else as I can't contact her anymore (her number no longer in service).

But I have been asked many times from various girls I've banged before for handouts. Worse now with the Pandemic as most can't find customers and can't find work as many places either downsized or closed.

I have ignored most request Over the past year and many have already blocked me. Too bad though as many were cute and somewhat decent performers.

All girls wants money. Now it is due to pandemic. Other times it is typhoon, Buffalo sick, parents sick, hungry, lost job, my cousin once removed need operation well you get my drift. Reason lists are endless.

Need to navigate through all this. Just because they blocked you does not mean anything. If you have other means of communication and you are on the ground they will jump into your bed.