Seeking Arrangements

[Midwestern]

Over the past few months, I had to shift from SBs / regulars to WGs. I will say, I have saved a lot of time and money. However, I miss the text messages. My SBs / regulars used to text me about a dozen times a day, and now I miss it. These SBs / regulars really make me feel like that I am their BF, while the WGs just make me feel like a customer, even though their service may be great. At some point, I will start looking for new SBs / regulars soon. Especially as the weather gets better. I love having a GF when the weather is nice. Or maybe I just get hornier when girls start showing more skin when they start wearing their shorts and summer dresses.

Agree, Regulars are great. They text every couple days, some give me rides home from restaurants instead of taking cabs, it is the little things that makes arrangements better then straight up Escorts. Some guys get upset at what we pay girls, not me as I have said many times I get way back in return. Well worth the investment.

Another example that you can not put a value on. In the last 2 weeks, 3 girls have agreed to meet me in Laredo. They ride the bus for 3 hours to meet, 3 hour drive for me, plus the border, usually not an issue in the evenings, so it does not add significant time. What more can I ask for, we spend the night together and fun. Back to work the next day. You will never find and escort that will do that, without major compensation. The haters can keep complaining, while I and others perfect the game. Life is good! Off to my favorite restaurant in MTY to meet a stunning and exotic girl. 4th meeting of the day.

[DramaFree11]

So generally my SB relationships have been in passing. Not because I love it that way but because if I see a girl in a city when I travel it's only a night or two. And I hope to see them next visit, but who knows when that is. It's only with Covid I've really developed long term SB on the home front. With Layla.

For a variety of reasons we couldn't meet up for six weeks. And so when we did finally meet up it was great to see her. I guess we've been seeing each other off and on for 7 months now so we are really comfortable. She has sort of a boyfriend now but we are comfortable enough that's not a problem for either of us (or him actually). We had a nice lunch because I wanted to enjoy her beyond the room. And I went out of my way to bring a special drink for her.

After settling in and drinking some more I am sitting on the edge of the bed naked and she is on her knees blowing me. She's settled in as well and at some point announces "I thought we'the just do this for maybe an hour" WTF? Have I died and gone to heaven? Sure enough we do almost an hour of relaxed BJ. I'the done this with Alexa also recently and it's soo fun. I meant just casual. We're chatting and she's blowing me. We might take a break and drink some more wine and take a pee and then settle in again and get me worked up from scratch again. OMG it was great.

Agree, Regulars are great. They text every couple days, some give me rides home from restaurants instead of taking cabs, it is the little things that makes arrangements better then straight up Escorts. Some guys get upset at what we pay girls, not me as I have said many times I get way back in return. Well worth the investment.

Another example that you can not put a value on. In the last 2 weeks, 3 girls have agreed to meet me in Laredo. They ride the bus for 3 hours to meet, 3 hour drive for me, plus the border, usually not an issue in the evenings, so it does not add significant time. What more can I ask for, we spend the night together and fun. Back to work the next day. You will never find and escort that will do that, without major compensation. The haters can keep complaining, while I and others perfect the game. Life is good! Off to my favorite restaurant in MTY to meet a stunning and exotic girl. 4th meeting of the day.

[Steve 9696]

So generally my SB relationships have been in passing. Not because I love it that way but because if I see a girl in a city when I travel it's only a night or two. And I hope to see them next visit, but who knows when that is. It's only with Covid I've really developed long term SB on the home front. With Layla.

For a variety of reasons we couldn't meet up for six weeks. And so when we did finally meet up it was great to see her. I guess we've been seeing each other off and on for 7 months now so we are really comfortable. She has sort of a boyfriend now but we are comfortable enough that's not a problem for either of us (or him actually). We had a nice lunch because I wanted to enjoy her beyond the room. And I went out of my way to bring a special drink for her.

After settling in and drinking some more I am sitting on the edge of the bed naked and she is on her knees blowing me. She's settled in as well and at some point announces "I thought we'the just do this for maybe an hour" WTF? Have I died and gone to heaven? Sure enough we do almost an hour of relaxed BJ. I'the done this with Alexa also recently and it's soo fun. I meant just casual. We're chatting and she's blowing me. We might take a break and drink some more wine and take a pee and then settle in again and get me worked up from scratch again. OMG it was great.

And so much laughter. Like she goes to spit on my dick and misses and hits me on the stomach. We both busted a gut. And later she goes to drool some spit in her cleavage as we tittie fuck some (nice!) and she misses and drools it on her tummy. LOL. She's pretty drunk but we both love her that way.

When we finally do fuck we use this new position that we discovered and we both love. Her on her back pussy at edge of bed legs in air. Me standing and spread my legs enough to get a nice line up with her pussy and wow. It's great. I can fuck forever like this because it's not tiring. And for her since I am an upcurve it really strokes her gspot. After a TON of fucking I let er rip in that position. Nice!

Later she's texts that she adores me. Like that too. Regulars are different than new girls but in a nice way.

[CenTexCrash]

Had a beachy outing to PVallarta via Monterrey. Just wanted to do something different for a change of scenery. And as a revenge trip from that time I went to MTY for 4 days and everything was closed.

Initially put out feelers to MTY, GDL, and CDMX to see if any SBs wanted to tag along to a beach outing. One curvy girl from CDMX seemed pretty serious about tagging on board but I got distracted by other DMs and should probably dig to find her she seems promising.

Prior to trip had two promising SBs in PVR and several more in MTY. One of 2 PVR nominees once I touched down in PVR finally said "well I'm on my period" but I got her WhatsApp info for future trips. Other PVR girl I forgot about didn't resurface until after my flight leaving PVR had a connection in GDL.

Flight was delayed, arrived in MTY, no SBs answering DMs. Went straight to bed. Next day, with trip cut short, one promising girl I had been chatting for 2 weeks "woke up with the flu" and couldn't meet, other just went AWOL until after I already boarded a Monday night bus back to Laredo.

That was almost 10 days ago and I haven't bothered logging into SA since. Maybe should give it another try.

[AsianMarkCuban]

Since we have new folks joining the group here, thought my newbie guide might help. This is primarily in the USA, though I did Argentina and UK with similar approach. And this was written for fly-in and may need adjustment for hometown game. Others who have done more pro / liberal destinations like MDE or MTY may want to augment.

So how do you do it properly? I suppose this could vary widely depending on what you are after. But I am after a girl who FEELS like a girlfriend. She's affectionate, appreciates an evening above her usual stature in life, and is able to actually enjoy herself with you. She views the allowance / gift (I. E. Money!) as a bonus. Not the only thing she is after. Any girl where I feel money is the primary motivation and she will go with anyone for a high enough price, gets kicked straight to the curb. She's got to be a girlfriend first, and benefit second.

Knowing that this is the kind of girl I want to attract (and other guys I have talked to also find this persona the most attractive) there is a set of rules you chave to play by. Understand that SA is NOT AT ALL like picking up hookers. It is much more like meeting a girl into a bar and seducing her to leave with you. It's just an online bar. Sure you need money, but you also need some distance game and you need to treat her with respect. If you do, you have a chance of closing the deal. However, the moment you disrespect her, she will be gone.

Most importantly, never discuss sex or money. These things will be implied and they will be done offline. Never discuss sex or money on SA and really never discuss sex at all. As soon as you are that explicit, the kind of girl you are after will feel disrespected and ghost you in no time flat.

Love the fact that you are sharing # $$$ here. I would use this as a reference in Dubai as well. Talked to a MILF and she is like pay me 400 bucks for a lunch meet. I'm like. I'm famous too! Haha JK.

Thanks buddy!

[WyattEarp]

Had a girl lay it out for me the other night. We had a nice chat. Planned a meetup. Finally get around to cost and I say $350. She says she only does $900. That she can make way more in the club. And there it is. She's a dancer. They make tons of money grinding on guys and giving blue balls. Why they going to fuck you for $300? They can get that in a half hour grinding at the club. Sigh. So entitled.

Steve,

I'm not sure you literally meant strippers make $300 in a half hour. Sure, top strippers in top clubs can pull down huge cash. For many, there's less money and a lot of downtime.

My opinion strippers can rationalize grinding on strange guy's dicks, but many cannot actually rationalize fucking someone in a transactional nature. We also all know the mindset "I won't fuck a guy for money" when offered $300. How about $1,000? "Well, that's different."

With your skills, you can probably befriend a stripper and promise to wine and dine her with some cash at the end. Of course, SA is probably easier and more efficient than trying to screen strippers.

[The Cane]

Thanks for posting this, Cane. This is a good reminder that everyone needs to be careful when bringing up money or sex with an SB. For example, you should never mention money or sex on any text messages.

Quotes from the NY Times article:

One of the sites the men met women through was called Seeking Arrangement, which describes itself as a place where wealthy people find attractive companions and pamper them "with fine dinners, exotic trips and allowances. " The site's founder has said it has 20 million members worldwide. The F. Be. I. Mentioned the website in a conversation with at least one potential witness, according to a person familiar with the conversation.

It is not illegal to provide adults with free hotel stays, meals and other gifts, but if prosecutors think they can prove that the payments to the women were for sex, they could accuse Mr. Gaetz of trafficking the women under "force, fraud or coercion. ".

Thanks for the clarification. I read the article really fast, and clearly skipped over the specific mention of Seeking Arrangement. This guy was also stupid in that he was openly sharing his "conquests" and entrusted somebody else who ultimately got busted, which led to him. I had a wingman one time who turned out to be a drunk and a fuck up. Never again!

[Midwestern]

It would appear that Mr. Gaetz and colleague are caught up in a Seeking Arrangement type of scandal. I say "type" since it isn't clear that SA was the medium used. But so far, the facts scream "sugar babies"!

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/01/u...tment.amp.html

Thanks for posting this, Cane. This is a good reminder that everyone needs to be careful when bringing up money or sex with an SB. For example, you should never mention money or sex on any text messages.

Quotes from the NY Times article:

One of the sites the men met women through was called Seeking Arrangement, which describes itself as a place where wealthy people find attractive companions and pamper them "with fine dinners, exotic trips and allowances. " The site's founder has said it has 20 million members worldwide. The F. Be. I. Mentioned the website in a conversation with at least one potential witness, according to a person familiar with the conversation.

It is not illegal to provide adults with free hotel stays, meals and other gifts, but if prosecutors think they can prove that the payments to the women were for sex, they could accuse Mr. Gaetz of trafficking the women under "force, fraud or coercion. ".

[Elvis 2008]

There are plenty of latina casas in LA County so I don't see why you have to drive to Tijuana.

Well, I was thinking about having a sugar baby for a weekend and getting one from a club not just banging someone there. That would be 48 hours of pleasure.

Also, I have driven LA to SD and it sucked. Maybe traffic is down post Covid but I have never seen highways become parking lots like California. But there was one time I took a train from LA to Tijuana, and it was great. There was beautiful scenery, and the time flew. I would do that again in a second but driving? Bleech! Forget it.

[Big Boss Man]

She is asking for $100 for a non-sex meetup. Guaranteed. Run away. Hard and fast. That's the problem with upfront gifts. If they can get stuff for free essentially doing nothing they aren't going to fuck you for $300.

Had a girl lay it out for me the other night. We had a nice chat. Planned a meetup. Finally get around to cost and I say $350. She says she only does $900. That she can make way more in the club. And there it is. She's a dancer. They make tons of money grinding on guys and giving blue balls. Why they going to fuck you for $300? They can get that in a half hour grinding at the club. Sigh. So entitled.

Latina casas in LA? Do tell (u can PM me or WhatsApp me as I assume this needs to stay on the downlow).

I countered asking her for a massage. No reply. Another one lost in the cloud.

[The Cane]

It would appear that Mr. Gaetz and colleague are caught up in a Seeking Arrangement type of scandal. I say "type" since it isn't clear that SA was the medium used. But so far, the facts scream "sugar babies"!

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/01/u...tment.amp.html

[Big Boss Man]

Yeah what about those Latina casas in LA?

I used to go to them all the time in the 1990's. You can read El Classificado. There used to be a few around Firestone and Atlantic in South Gate. Look for the one's in East LOS Angeles.

[AmorPorFavor]

Five hours round trip travel time for two 30 minute relations does not seem worth it to me either. I am trying to cultivate a regular who relatively low mileage. Today is two weeks after my final covid shot so I ready to wade into the pool again. Except for I have a consulting assignment for three months so I won't be traveling until June or July.

I let my seeking subscription lapse. So if I can't hook up with these last two I will try other avenues. There are plenty of latina casas in LA County so I don't see why you have to drive to Tijuana.

Yeah what about those Latina casas in LA?

[Steve 9696]

She asked for $100 for a meetup so I don't know what she has in mind. Probably not sex. $100 means she is not that experienced. The others have hit me up for a much higher number. Now she appears to have ghosted me as she is not returning texts as I hint at more. Maybe she is thinking about it.

She is asking for $100 for a non-sex meetup. Guaranteed. Run away. Hard and fast. That's the problem with upfront gifts. If they can get stuff for free essentially doing nothing they aren't going to fuck you for $300.

Had a girl lay it out for me the other night. We had a nice chat. Planned a meetup. Finally get around to cost and I say $350. She says she only does $900. That she can make way more in the club. And there it is. She's a dancer. They make tons of money grinding on guys and giving blue balls. Why they going to fuck you for $300? They can get that in a half hour grinding at the club. Sigh. So entitled.

Latina casas in LA? Do tell (u can PM me or WhatsApp me as I assume this needs to stay on the downlow).

[Midwestern]

Yeah, I have had that with stripper type SBs three times. They like to pay back their friends. Usually though the friends are better looking and better in the sack than the SB because they want to impress.

I will say with women whenever one of them says it is okay, they all follow.

Yes, exactly, the new gal in the threesome always tries to impress. And yes, when the SB vouches for you to her friends, her friends will be fully on board.

I actually got done with work early yesterday and decided to go for the threesome. But her friend wasn't that cute and her body wasn't that good.

Afterwards, I sent a message to my gal, asking if I could use her place to bang pros. But she said no way.

One of the best situations that I've ever been in was a couple of years ago, I was pretty good friends with a pro, and she let me use her apartment whenever I wanted, to bang other outcall pros. I just gave her $30 or $45 for letting me use the apartment every time. Man, that was great.