Sao Paulo Reports

[DiverOyster]

Seems Scandallo has been open for almost 3 weeks.

How is the situation there now?

How is the talent level ATM?

Is the curfew affecting the club? Does it have to close early?

I am heading to SP over Memorial Day weekend with the boys and plan to go there on Saturday 5/29.

Scandallo is good with lots of girls. R200 before 7 PM with R150 consumption. After 7 PM, R300 with R150 consumption. However, the service levels of the girls vary widely so buyer beware. A lot of the girls now demand to get the payment first as soon as you enter the room, which could be a red flag for bad service to come. For example, she may DFK for five minutes and then quit kissing, or she will fuck for about 15 minutes and then rush you to hurry up because time is over while there is still about 30 minutes left on the hour. Every girl is a free lancer. There is no quality control from the management. This situation is similar to that of FKK Sharks in Germany. Each girl is her own, with no management to enforce service level.

At the average hourly rate of R1000 per session (R500 for the garota, R250 for the room or takeout fee, R250 drinks during interviews) Scandallo is not exactly a dirt cheap place to go through a series of bad apples before you find a true passionate GFE provider. I did burn a pile of cash at this place with bad experiences. The bad apples are also promising and passionate during the pre-room interviews so it maybe difficult to weed them out until you actually get into the room. Lots of Scandallo girls are seasoned hard-core prostitutes so they know how to hook in a clients during pre-room interviews. Therefore, at Scandallo, you may step into a landmine trap that will blow up on your face at any moment. You will have to chuckle and swallow your disappointment and write off your roughly R1,000 as a bad investment loss. You have just made a bad judgment. You just have to move on to the next target and hopefully find a passionate Gfe provider.

It's a shame because the Scandallo girls make a very lucrative income comparing to the average Sao Paulo worker. To put things into perspectives, an average white-collar college-educated professional earns around R4,000-R5,000 per month in Sao Paulo, from what I know. A Scandallo girl can sleep with you for one night and earn around R1,500 to R2,000, tax free, so she should try her best to provide the GFE service at such price level.

However, I did find one wonderful GFE girl with whom I spend the night for R1,500. After that one night, we have been exchanging loving messages on WhatsApp everyday and she has agreed to come to Sao Paulo to stay 4 entire days at my apartment for R4,000. Of course, I have to work during the day so I can only spend time with her after 6PM or so. While I am at work, she is free to roam. I am waiting to see how this 4-day experiment will turn out. If it turns out wonderful, this girl is a keeper for sure.

[DiverOyster]

Can I know the price?

At Enjoy, price is R250 per hour. The reception are is very nicely appointed with a fish tank. They are open 11:00 to 22:00 M-F. Sat 11:00 to 19:00. Their rooms are below average for a clinica in Moema.

[Vagabundo1]

See the book, shantaram, for a good discussion.

Yes, it's the same in many countries. I think since the dawn of history in every society pimps have been rightly despised as parasites and prohibited. But still, they keep creeping up on us.

Whenever there is a girl earning a lot of money in a poor society and she is not too experienced in life, there are going to be guys trying to take that money, sometimes organized groups of guys. Generally they stay in the background as much as possible -- no monger wants to go with a girl who is pimped, so she is sworn to keep it a secret with dire threats from the controlling party. However, once the pimps get too much control over the industry they get a lot more brazen. They come out in the open, start to fuck alongside the customers. By this stage the real customers are treated like beta males by the girls. That is what many of us have been seeing in the European FKK scene with the Romanians and Albanians and so on. That is why we always need to be alert against the incursions of pimps. We know what the endgame is.

There are a lot of red flags to watch out for. If a girl comes to your place and the first thing she does is take out her cellphone and start reporting to a third party, be suspicious. If a girl seems enthused on Whatsapp but nervous in person, be suspicious. If a girl always uses the same driver or tries to avoid you seeing her driver, be suspicious. If she sends scammy plea messages in English be super-suspicious. There are measures you can take to avoid these things or screen out those girls entirely. Believe me, you don't want that kind of girl. When you talk to that girl you don't know who you're really talking to at all.

Apart from that, you don't want to fund that kind of whre-slavery -- possibly the original prototype for wage-slavery within the broader society. Every girl must be free. No controlling middlemen, nobody creating artificial barriers between service provider and consumer..

[Polyamorist]

Prostitution is legal in Brazil but pimps are not.

Yes, it's the same in many countries. I think since the dawn of history in every society pimps have been rightly despised as parasites and prohibited. But still, they keep creeping up on us.

Whenever there is a girl earning a lot of money in a poor society and she is not too experienced in life, there are going to be guys trying to take that money, sometimes organized groups of guys. Generally they stay in the background as much as possible -- no monger wants to go with a girl who is pimped, so she is sworn to keep it a secret with dire threats from the controlling party. However, once the pimps get too much control over the industry they get a lot more brazen. They come out in the open, start to fuck alongside the customers. By this stage the real customers are treated like beta males by the girls. That is what many of us have been seeing in the European FKK scene with the Romanians and Albanians and so on. That is why we always need to be alert against the incursions of pimps. We know what the endgame is.

There are a lot of red flags to watch out for. If a girl comes to your place and the first thing she does is take out her cellphone and start reporting to a third party, be suspicious. If a girl seems enthused on Whatsapp but nervous in person, be suspicious. If a girl always uses the same driver or tries to avoid you seeing her driver, be suspicious. If she sends scammy plea messages in English be super-suspicious. There are measures you can take to avoid these things or screen out those girls entirely. Believe me, you don't want that kind of girl. When you talk to that girl you don't know who you're really talking to at all.

Apart from that, you don't want to fund that kind of whre-slavery -- possibly the original prototype for wage-slavery within the broader society. Every girl must be free. No controlling middlemen, nobody creating artificial barriers between service provider and consumer.

But don't get me wrong. I am not saying every boate or clinica manager is a pimp. There are many who are great guys and really have the customer's interests at hearts. It is only when a manager tells a girl to start deceiving the customers, it is at that exact moment that he stops being a manager and starts being a pimp. If a girl likes the customers and wants to do good, imagine how uncomfortable she must feel at that moment -- under the threat of being fired or excluded from the industry. We must not fund those kinds of enterprises.

[Incrociatore]

I recently had a stopover in SP on my way to an undisclosed location. I had limited time and decided to spend it at Enjoy Spa based on my last memorable experience there. Only 4 ladies were available in mid afternoon, all doable. I didn't have intel to go on, so asked mamasan to recommend. Her choice was Karina, a skinny lady with piercing sexy eyes and ethnic Italian look.

Turned out to be one of those experiences every man should have at least once in a lifetime. Insane sex drive and top shelf GFE. Made the increasingly rare distinction of making me pop twice in an hour without any artificial additives. The lady was born for this and totally restores a man's faith in the medicinal benefits of mongering. Check her out, and if she doesn't make it to your top 10 (or 5) of all time, something is wrong with you.

Can I know the price?

[Kib123]

I recently had a stopover in SP on my way to an undisclosed location. I had limited time and decided to spend it at Enjoy Spa based on my last memorable experience there. Only 4 ladies were available in mid afternoon, all doable. I didn't have intel to go on, so asked mamasan to recommend. Her choice was Karina, a skinny lady with piercing sexy eyes and ethnic Italian look.

Turned out to be one of those experiences every man should have at least once in a lifetime. Insane sex drive and top shelf GFE. Made the increasingly rare distinction of making me pop twice in an hour without any artificial additives. The lady was born for this and totally restores a man's faith in the medicinal benefits of mongering. Check her out, and if she doesn't make it to your top 10 (or 5) of all time, something is wrong with you.

[Kib123]

From what I've read here, seems like over 90% of ads on photoacompanhantes are bait and switch. For for the remaining 10%, 9% of them are flaky.

I think you meant 90% of the 10%. Anyway PA is a fool's errand, and totally unnecessary, in Brazil.

[SinfullyKorean]

Your link to a specific person is incomplete. Your link https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/ opens a general page of many not the one you infer you had a problem with. Can you be more specific with the link or specific name so others will not fall victim to this provider?

Yea, this would help tremendously. Did you (DanielMatt) try to video chat with her before meeting? Did the girl have any videos posted in her ad?

From what I've read here, seems like over 90% of ads on photoacompanhantes are bait and switch. For for the remaining 10%, 9% of them are flaky.

[The Critic]

Found this girl at https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/, back and forth on whatsup, and set up a time for her to come to my hotel. She did not show up the first time, and when she finally showed up the second day, she is not the girl of the photo, and it says 19 years old, but looks more like 35 years old. I gave her uber money and let her go. Really bad experience. https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/ is not good.

BTW, anybody knows the current situation about Scandolla? Still R150 entrance charge fully consumable before 7:00 PM every day (or some days, what are those days)? How much is after 7:00 pm? Thursday night used to be the best night. How is now? How is Friday, and Saturday? Is it worthy to go there on a Saturday night? Thanks.

Your link to a specific person is incomplete. Your link https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/ opens a general page of many not the one you infer you had a problem with. Can you be more specific with the link or specific name so others will not fall victim to this provider?

[Hobbying]

This is not true. I do speak Spanish, and they do not understand it. Very few do. I also had a Brazilian girlfriend, and we went to Spain together, years ago. She couldn't speak, neither understand Spanish.

Depends on where she is from. Most people that live near the boarders of the other countries do understand Spanish. My ex spoke Spanish fluently with me before I learned Porto.

[The Cane]

This is not true. I do speak Spanish, and they do not understand it. Very few do. I also had a Brazilian girlfriend, and we went to Spain together, years ago. She couldn't speak, neither understand Spanish.

I speak Spanish and have been to Brazil many, many times. I believe the truth is somewhere in between. I would not say that all Brazilians understand Spanish well, but if you speak it slow enough and well enough yourself, then they will get a lot of what you are saying in simple conversations. I know this to be true because I've done it many, many times myself. I even had one Brazilian girl ask me to speak in Spanish versus English because she could understand me better. So, although not nearly a 100% substitute for knowing Portuguese, Spanish can indeed be useful in helping you to communicate in Brazil. I reported on this after my very first trip to Brazil years ago, and I ironclad stand behind it to this day.

[Incrociatore]

Brasilians generally understand Spanish pretty well.

This is not true. I do speak Spanish, and they do not understand it. Very few do. I also had a Brazilian girlfriend, and we went to Spain together, years ago. She couldn't speak, neither understand Spanish.

[DanielMatt]

Found this girl at https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/, back and forth on whatsup, and set up a time for her to come to my hotel. She did not show up the first time, and when she finally showed up the second day, she is not the girl of the photo, and it says 19 years old, but looks more like 35 years old. I gave her uber money and let her go. Really bad experience. https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/ is not good.

BTW, anybody knows the current situation about Scandolla? Still R150 entrance charge fully consumable before 7:00 PM every day (or some days, what are those days)? How much is after 7:00 pm? Thursday night used to be the best night. How is now? How is Friday, and Saturday? Is it worthy to go there on a Saturday night? Thanks.

[Hobbying]

When I say "touristy" of a district or establishment, I don't mean that most people in it are tourists. I mean that enough tourists have visited that the locals have developed special routines for foreigners -- nearly always stuff you want to avoid.

It only takes 1 in a 1000, and there will be routines. Nets to catch the special fish.

For example, a clinica girl recently messaged me a long plea in English, clearly a scam that had already been prepared for other gringos. Less than 1% of her clients would be gringos and obviously she didn't speak English. It was sad evidence that many of these girls are controlled by pimps. Something most of us would prefer not to know.

If you or others get such a heart-rending message, Mr Oyster, please ignore it. "What strikes the oyster shell does not damage the pearl. " -- Rumi.

Prostitution is legal in Brazil but pimps are not.

Girls are independent and may have BF's, husbands, or drug dealers that they fuck for drugs.

But like the US, human trafficking or slavery still happens in Brazil because there are poor people.

[SinfullyKorean]

I am heading to SP over Memorial Day weekend with the boys and plan to go there on Saturday 5/29.

Looking forward to your report. I'll be there soon after you.