Kyiv

[Nongkhai]

So I arrived on UIA with all my paper work, quite a big Que at airport but went through quick at the time I had PCR test results printed and the insurance. (I hear now you only need Antigen). Use the website https://visitukraine.today/.

I noticed one lovely 9 out of 10 with young handsome guy, luminous dress with black leather jacket draped over. A taste of things to come I had hoped.

Came through customs and you are in domestic, straight in front of you is a Sim card desk. You will need cash only. 280 GRN got me 12 gb of data and 1 month of calls / tests. I went for Kiev star.

Further to left if ATM and money exchange. Money exchanges are worst rates in airport avoid if you can or change minimum. If you use ATM go to the blue and yellow ATM it says BankoMat in russian, can make it out with no knowledge of alphabet. It charges 99 GRN for charge. If you use Revolut card or similar always decline conversion rate, it works out better.

ProTip – Revolut has been kind to me in my travels but I would have been better bringing GBP sterling, rates are tight spread 37.6 sell to 38.6 in town and everywhere. All depends on if your comfortable handing lots of money / does room Air bnb or hotel have safe. I would have saved 400 GRN converting Cash on every 400 GBP I took out from ATM.

Leaving Airport.

Use Uber or Bolt.

Uber to Kiev central is 400 GRN.

I was struggling to get a match you need to walk left away from airport as you come out, silly me I thought I would humor the taxi touts to see what price they offered. 750 to 1200. No thanks.

Uber finally connected. We were off.

Using Tinder in car – initially I did not use mask but as he has a small cough I put it back on.

I had lined up allot of independent chicks from relaxkiev website, one called Lika, she looked great any way when I video called her lets just say the lock down had been tough, she was bloated and bad complexion. I will upload a pic if it allows me. I bailed on her.

After 15 months of no holiday and not cleaned the pipes in 2 weeks I was ready to blow. I got a number on tinder whilst in Taxi. The number turned out to be an agency, usual scam pics of Instagram models. I say I will take one to outside apartment.

She arrives in car blacked out windows as she opens nothing like the picture I was raging, her face was 6. 5 but seemed a bit frumpy, wearing baggy top. I should have walked on but was eager to bang. Took her up, 4000 RGN – it was awful, she had recently had a baby, couldn't touch the sides, gave up after a few positions and cut her loose.

Pretty angry at that I though I would go to Dolls – strip club.

Dolls club.

Now.

Private dancers 500.

Entrance 500 or 600 I forgot.

Went inside, they say entrance is 500 and walked me to back at the last stage near bar and toilets. I was sat on left side as you walk in, same as toilets.

PROTIP – if they sit you here and not on couches on out skirts, sit on right side, other side to toilets. Reason is the girls when they leave stage walk this way and you can talk / ask for private dancers.

First 5 or 6 girls were bad quality, 5 or 6 not even a 7. Then next few were 7 and 7. 5. Then an 8 came I asked waitress to get me a private dance. It was great she was grinding on my feeling groin outside of pants, and sliding nipples in my mouth (my mask wearing in taxi has gone out the window).

Then back at stage seat I see a 9. Maybe 9. 5, lovely body 5. 9 feet see cup lovely face before I get a chance to get her attention or call waitress, bunch of Korean lads get waitress to get her attention, she is busy for next hour. I will be back.

I now leave Dolls horny as ever, walk up past penthouse, it was also open on a Tuesday, I avoid and make my way to Salon Dream.

http://salondream.kiev.ua/our-salon/

It is in Voloymyrska street, as I am walking my phone battery dies luckily they have a website with youtube video so I recognize the entrance and path.

But alas. I knock on door, and lady answers all 4 girls busy for 45 minutes.

I say OK and head to premier palace, around the corner is relax massage my regular for last 5 years, I do not need google maps for this. As I get into it I notice it is still there but the light is not on. I don't ring the bell and head back to room. Dejected, low on confidence and balls the size of watermelons.

So far a F – for Fail.

I get back to room which is 5 doors down from RIO Club / Now Tootsies I think. More on that later.

I charge my phone and telegram Fiesta massage.

I am told there will be 5 women in 45 minutes wait then walk there 20 minutes. As I make my way to 6th floor 2 large, one very large Gulf state guys come out. I go in and sit in, the layout and rest area is good. Then I am told only 2 ladies are ready, 1 is awful mid 20's blond fat, holding her belly, the other is worse 40 year old size 12 or 14 UK size, old chick you see drinking pints in a pub.

I vote with my feet and leave. She tells me that I should make booking next time. She sends me pictures of girls but all faces covered. I will try again but so far I am not impressed.

https://fiesta-massage.com.ua/en

End of Day 1.

Day 2.

Morning I wake up have breakfast from groceries I brought in market down the road, learn the signs, its called Produckti in Russian.

So eager to bang I make contact with the brothel on what's-app I made before I left.

Whats-app.

Number.

Add the plus sign.

I have 4 pics the pics are all good but on arrival the 7's quickly turn out to be 5's. I take once called Asya I pay 2500.

Awful massage neither of us wanted and sex was ok, she was tighter than expected I was hoping to doi missionary then doggy but within 120 secs I had unloaded. Did not have time to slow down.

She said, you come, no emotion. .

I leave and get food, go to pharmacies, you can buy Viagra for pack of 4 x 100 MG less than 10 pounds. 4 x 50 for less than 5 pounds, they sell other stuff without prescription if that's your bag.

I get a random whatsapp.

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They send pics these are more normal none Instagram.

I pick one like a 7 young chick.

I eat across road at Maffia – 12 pounds for 2 loads of sushi and cocktail.

She arrives at 9 pm.

Grey chevelet aveo.

I walk over blacked out windows, here we go again, girl pops out, although plain face, body looks better but clothes are baggy, I aint paying 3000 for this.

I say in Russian – different girl.

She asks for photo, I show her the brunette from yesterday, she then speaks English fine, ok you can go. I walk off, instead of walking into apartment entrance I would 3 blocks down into Club Rio.

Twice bitten forever shy.

PROTIP.

If they do not video call or show real pics do not bother. The pics are all Instagram birds probably in UAE. Earning 200 dollars for sponsorship.

Escorts are hard to find.

Even websites like \https://escort.vc/.

Are hard to meet.

They want 250 dollar and up.

Kiev for short game is Strip clubs and massage parlous, if you have BIG BIG money escorts and have sex with strippers yes. Long game, yes you can meet in street, metro or on tinder. I had two chats on first day but on 5 day trip its not going to happen with a normal chick lets be honest. Why waste my time.

Club Rio / Tootsies.

So I went into front entrance of Club rio / big walk around and must have ended up in tootsies, not been to Club Rio for 3 years. First time Private dancers were 300.

Now.

Private dancers 600.

Entrance 400.

All managers and staff want to shake my hand, the most hand shaking I have done in 15 months.

Sit down at good place, told rules by managers.

Was told I can ask girls to come back some agree and to discuss price with them.

Ladies drink same as mine per menu.

I drink only non alcohol beer tonight.

First group of 2 dancers on each stage all 5 or 6, then a few 7's appear. I see a nice girl sitting near me brown light hair slim, I ask for private dance.

In private room, she is new only 1 month, talks allot of English.

Happy for me to rub breasts and vagina on outside, but her routine is timid not a turn on.

Finish.

Back to seat, then I see the 8. 5 club fitty, and gosh does she know it.

Private dance after she finishes the rest of stages 15 minutes.

2 dancers I tip 100 as I only have 500 and 200.

She rubs outside of pants pulls my hands all over her body, very sexual, left we raging boner.

I change up money to 100's and have 20 birds come to my seat over next hour.

I feel arse, rub outside of vagina and feel the skin of breast.

One more private dance with blonder 8 out of 10, very sexual again toughing everywhere.

I pay bill which is all correct and then start the walk out with security which is like a maze, end up in back entrance. All safe, they look after you there and offered to get a taxi.

I decline, I jump on the e scooter.

Download.

Bolt and Bird (scroll) apps.

I ride down to relax, near Premier palace.

Told 2 girls I take off shows.

Only one called Kristina.

Firm body – fine.

Back massage as I think of sexy Club Rio girls.

Turns me around and oils me up.

1 hand on her pussy 1 on her breast.

Close to climax I move my right hand to firmly grasp her arse to show I am close.

She responds with sexual panting.

I explode.

Shower leave.

Home.

End of Day 2.

Certainly better than Day 1.

Day 3 I need to go to Borspil airport to get a PCR test.

I will update that with a video and pics.

Nong Khai.

[Ricko85]

What is the range of the sky rocket price?

I would compare with the price here.

In my current place you will find most of the time black or Muslim girls for more than 200 with basic services and stupid conversation.

I really enjoy natural slavic girls, not the plastic / Botox one, so if I must spend money for this pretty girls I would not complain too much.

Same thing for the strip clubs here. If you want to play in private with a girl, you will spend at least 500 per hour, and there is absolutely no sex as prostitution is illegal and the girls of the club are heavily controlled on this subject.

I will go to Kiev in the middle of the summer.

For those who think that Kiev is expensive, I recommend the city of Kharkiv. I found the cheapest strip clubs in Ukraine in Kharkiv. Sex is possible in the back room at the Moulin Rouge Cabaret. There is no back room in Platinum Men's Club, but you can take the girl to your hotel. Price for 1 hour for students on Mamba. Ru or tinder is 1500-200 uah + taxi fee.

[DramaFree11]

I'm a regular visitor to Kyiv since 2006! Now, I'm in Kyiv, and I have never seen such scene before! So many tourists from the rich gulf states! The price of everything went up incredibly! Oh! My God! Kyiv is not any more a city that I have known for so many years! Radical changes! It is time to seek another destination!

Funny I wrote about this 2 years ago. I was called a liar and a racist. A lot of hard work, too many scams and it will take a decent budget. Even then you will be lucky to pull a 6.5.

[Fred54]

I'm a regular visitor to Kyiv since 2006! Now, I'm in Kyiv, and I have never seen such scene before! So many tourists from the rich gulf states! The price of everything went up incredibly! Oh! My God! Kyiv is not any more a city that I have known for so many years! Radical changes! It is time to seek another destination!

What is the range of the sky rocket price?

I would compare with the price here.

In my current place you will find most of the time black or Muslim girls for more than 200€ with basic services and stupid conversation.

I really enjoy natural slavic girls, not the plastic / Botox one, so if I must spend money for this pretty girls I would not complain too much.

Same thing for the strip clubs here. If you want to play in private with a girl, you will spend at least 500€ per hour, and there is absolutely no sex as prostitution is illegal and the girls of the club are heavily controlled on this subject.

I will go to Kiev in the middle of the summer.

[Adelat572]

I'm a regular visitor to Kyiv since 2006! Now, I'm in Kyiv, and I have never seen such scene before! So many tourists from the rich gulf states! The price of everything went up incredibly! Oh! My God! Kyiv is not any more a city that I have known for so many years! Radical changes! It is time to seek another destination!

[DramaFree11]

Have you been banned before for what is in your bio? I know if you ask too many girls if they are willing to come over for money by private message, they can report you and then you will get banned. This happened to me on Showaround. I really do not recommend you wasting your time trying on this guide-only website.

As for what to say, I have said something like "Call me Santa Clause because I have presents" and I wrote Future Sponsor in Russian another time. To be honest, I never got messages from a girl that was my type (18-24 yo, very skinny, not the fake lips stripper type). Lots of girls not my type. Also, I would say only about 15% of girls can speak some conversational English. Tinder is a long game to say the least, but something I enjoy. Two to four years ago, I had so many mini agencies write me on my normal Tinder profile, but even after three weeks on my current trip I have nothing from any professionals. I have even seen a lot of Mamba girls that declined meeting me for money on Tinder. So, maybe they are just looking for love. Times are changing in the wealthier Ukraine. I don't like it.

Thank you for the great report. Kiev has been bad for many years, the only difference now is guys like you and others are reporting the truth.

[TinyHippo]

Excellent! I will follow your journey with great interests and most likely take the same steps when I'm in Kiev. If you find good massage places with pretty & nice university girls (not silicone-botox bitches), please let us know!

One question: what kind of text can you put on Tinder to be able to hint that you are looking for these university girls as a sponsor? I'm having trouble how to formulate the bio's in various services in a way that won't get deleted and / or banned.

Have you been banned before for what is in your bio? I know if you ask too many girls if they are willing to come over for money by private message, they can report you and then you will get banned. This happened to me on Showaround. I really do not recommend you wasting your time trying on this guide-only website.

As for what to say, I have said something like "Call me Santa Clause because I have presents" and I wrote Future Sponsor in Russian another time. To be honest, I never got messages from a girl that was my type (18-24 yo, very skinny, not the fake lips stripper type). Lots of girls not my type. Also, I would say only about 15% of girls can speak some conversational English. Tinder is a long game to say the least, but something I enjoy. Two to four years ago, I had so many mini agencies write me on my normal Tinder profile, but even after three weeks on my current trip I have nothing from any professionals. I have even seen a lot of Mamba girls that declined meeting me for money on Tinder. So, maybe they are just looking for love. Times are changing in the wealthier Ukraine. I don't like it.

[Marco81]

Kiev Trip - 8th to 13th June. - Pre departure report.

Pre departure info and background.

NongKhai.

Nice detailed pre-report. Looking forward to your trip and info. Enjoy your trip.

[Fred54]

Kiev Trip - 8th to 13th June. - Pre departure report.

I have also saved from previous trips addresses of my fav strip clubs.

Club Rio.

Dolls.

Penthouse (a bit rough but I find the entrance unique and they often offer full service in the back) most places do not, at least to me anyway. Women are not of same quality as places above.

There are a couple in the Arena complex and I also want to try as well as Scarlette and Princess Mens if they allow me in and if I locate them.


NongKhai.

Hi,

What do you mean by not the same quality for penthouse? Which club has the best student on the scene, and not old pro?

[Desin]

Kiev Trip - 8th to 13th June. - Pre departure report.

NongKhai.

Excellent! I will follow your journey with great interests and most likely take the same steps when I'm in Kiev. If you find good massage places with pretty & nice university girls (not silicone-botox bitches), please let us know!

One question: what kind of text can you put on Tinder to be able to hint that you are looking for these university girls as a sponsor? I'm having trouble how to formulate the bio's in various services in a way that won't get deleted and / or banned.

[Nongkhai]

Kiev Trip - 8th to 13th June. - Pre departure report.

Pre departure info and background.

It is my 6th trip to Ukraine since 2015. I know a few sentences in Russian but almost none existent to be honest. However I can read the cryllic signs so this helps at metro and other stations. Mid 30's British.

I booked my apartment at AirBNB again, apart from my first ever trip where I stayed at Hotel Dnipro. I always find apartments cheaper, better value, normally better location and can avoid the awkwardness of the front desk walk by.

I found a great apartment just down the road from Club Rio (my 2nd Favourite Strip club).

I booked my London to Ukraine flights with FlyUIA hand luggage only, when booking I did see the option to Covid buy insurance for about £2 so jumped on that. But after booking I did not see a certificate which says you must present.

Worried I would have problems at the airport I looked to buy further Ukraine based insurance I found on this website at about 230 GRN however when I went to click through and buy it dropped to 45 grn. So I paid for this and received a certificate which I printed out.

Insurance. Search - FLYUIA (eurotravelins.com.ua).

Took my PCR test within 72 hours. Email and print.

Kiev and Ukraine are not like my other favourite destinations such as Thailand, Colombia or Kenya. It is very much more clinical, not Girl friendly but it can still be a great trip if you plan ahead. You need to use the website to find escorts, the Internet to find erotic massage places and strip clubs all saved on your google maps, and possibly Tinder if you have time and money on your hands.

Kyiv Escorts with verified photos – RelaxKiev.

Only search for independent and verified ads.

Other ads will either be a street walker using fake profiles, they will be pushy to ask for apartment location, and when they arrive and turn out to be a cat fish you have an issue on your hands.

Other ads are often brothels, pimps or agencies. You can tell that all the girls are online at the same time, location and have the same phone number ending in the last 4 digits.

Agencies are not necessarily bad but they can do a switch up on you and as they are not cheap I tend to go for verified and independent, not as cheap and only a few of them but peace of mind on who turns up.

I went ahead 2 weeks before my trip, saving the contacts into my phone, contacting through whatsapp or telegram. You can tell once you start communications if they are genuine, and independent or not from the language and chat etc.

Another site, similar name but different.

Kyiv Escort Girls with Verified Photos – RelaxPortal.

I have also paid for tinder plus and have a few matches, but these are limited as the women can tell I am not in Kiev however I have a couple of 6 or 7's ready to meet if I have time. However I have done this in past trips and a short 5 day trip is unlikely to be successful using this means.

I will re-install it once I land and make a bio more clear that I am looking for semi pro university chicks and I am a sponsor.

Additionally I have went online and found a few massage parlous that offer a massage with happy ending (no sex) these girls are often attractive university age.

Contact 2 - Salon Dream. Ukraine Kiev massage.

Other can be found here.

Erotic Massage.

Adult Entertainment.

Kyiv (inyourpocket.com).

I have 5 different massage places saved in my maps to find different varieties.

Use google maps to save address and contact on whatsapp or telegram to confirm opening hours etc before you set off.

I have also saved from previous trips addresses of my fav strip clubs.

Club Rio.

Dolls.

Penthouse (a bit rough but I find the entrance unique and they often offer full service in the back) most places do not, at least to me anyway. Women are not of same quality as places above.

There are a couple in the Arena complex and I also want to try as well as Scarlette and Princess Mens if they allow me in and if I locate them.

From late May 2021 to early June 2021 online since I have been collecting numbers I have noticed the escorts have been increasing their prices. This will be interesting when I arrive. I wonder if it is due to more customers locally and high paying tourists as noted from the Middle east or the fact that their currency is performing poorly.

Will report when I am away or on my return if everything goes smoothly. Any recommendations or would like me to check on any establishments when I am in town do let me know.

NongKhai.

[TinyHippo]

I know, this must have been discussed in parts of replies but I still hope to get non RTFF answer.

While searching for AirBnB apartments in Odessa (curiosity) I found that the value for money for apartments is way more than apartments in Kiev. Obviously Kiev is expensive but that made me wonder. If Odessa is so welcoming to tourists and so many options to choose in AirBnB, can I expect the value for money is better with girls in Odessa? I know this might not be an easy apple to apple comparison. I'm a stripclub and massage parlor guy. Can I date to venture out in Odessa after a few successful Kiev visits? Anyone cares to humor my thought?

I am not an apartment guy, but Odessa has much better apartment girls. Picking up girls in a cafe or on Tinder will be much harder than Kyiv as most do not speak English in Odessa. I was there for six months with my young Ukrainian girlfriend and rarely ran into other girls that spoke English. She had a group of about 20 friends and only one spoke at an A1 English level. If you are a westerner and can speak Russian, you will be swimming in booty.

As for the whole Muslim thing, I think it has more to do with how they treat the girls than religion. Brits have a bad reputation too with the local ladies because lets face it they are always drunk and yelling in their football shirts.

[TinyHippo]

Good discussion and great points!

Tinder has the problem that if I put it on only after I'm in Kiev, it has it's delay in finding matches. But if I put it on couple of weeks before I'm in Kiev, I won't get matches because I'm either thousands of miles away, or my distance is hidden and this probably makes certain kind of girls to swipe left.

I would not be swiping on Tinder when you are not in Ukraine unless you can spoof your location or you go the two phone route. The problem is that girls will see your location is hidden or you are 1000 km and swipe left. This will lower your ranking quickly and will make it super hard to find matches. Once you get to Kyiv, your account will be virtually dead with your low ranking. I would suggest having two Tinder accounts. One for when you are at your home location and one you open up when you arrive with an Ukrainian SIM on a different phone.

Tinder really sucks all the data it can. It knows when you use one phone to open multiple accounts by IP, MEID, Google / Apple account, etc. Be sure to put your location as Kyiv too when remote swiping and when people ask why you are 1000 km away, just say you live in Kyiv but are on business trip. I am 45 and got 40 matches in a couple days in the age range of 22-29 as an average looking dude. I lower my age a little bit and brighten the bags under my eyes a bit in photoshop. Nobody has every said anything when we met in person and I recommend getting those little gel things for under your eyes. They really do help so much.

Tinder is a long game at least for me. Probably only at 10% for ONS, but almost at 50% after three dates. I would suggest putting your profile in Russian and English too. I've met up with a few girls that speak no English. It is weird, but fun when you have zero communication skills in bed. Good luck!

[Climbing]

I am new to this site and I am planning my first trip to the Ukraine. Is it a problem being from the USA? I most certainly did not vote for Trump, but is it a problem. Also it seems that the women in the Ukraine only like to do "short time". In places like Thailand all night is usually about twice the "short time" rate, but it seems that, from what I have read, all night is like 5 times the short time in the Ukraine. I guess there is an area where the night clubs are. Are the girls there more likely to do a overnight then the escorts? I hear that most of the escorts are full of crap (photoshoped photos, and fronts for salons) but are a reasonable number of them on kexkiev. Xyz ok?

Thanks.

[Adelat572]

Hey buddy,

I may only say that most of the year Odessa is a bit cheaper than Kyiv but not in Summer time and not this Summer when EU is still closed and all tourists from Ukraine go to Odessa. I would say that the amount of rich love seekers in Odessa per girl is a lot higher than that in Kyib when we talk about Summer time. Same for prices on apartments. They grow crazy in Summer time. If you are a big sea and beaches fan and want to see more beautiful girls per square meter, then go to Odessa (cause all escort girl will go there, so there will be a ton to choose from) BUT the prices will be crazy.

Also Odessa will be full of guys from Turkey. This happens each summer, they visit Odessa like its Las Vegas. This Summer they plan to let Turkey citizens visit Ukraine without any Covid tests, so Odessa will be a district of Istanbul.

I would stay in Kyiv for few reasons. Less people, still fun, still a ton of beauties, more strip clubs and cheaper apartments, so I would say more value for 1 dollar. On the other hand, Odessa definitely has some specific vibes, some people feel them, some don't.

Hope this helps.

Hi,

I'm in Kyiv now and it is full of people from the gulf states (Saudi-Qatar-United arabEmirat-Kewit. Ect! And the price for escort went crazy with terrible quality!