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  1. #24061
    Quote Originally Posted by Family1234  [View Original Post]
    I am going to Rio In September with my.

    Military buddy it will be our first time. We like to have women all night sometimes for multiple nights like a the. Are. Thailand Philippines vibe. How much will it cost where are the best places to look?
    Wow. Please read first. Then post questions. You're trip is in Sept. There's plenty of time to read some excellent field reports. How long's your trip?

  2. #24060
    Quote Originally Posted by ZebraStripes81  [View Original Post]
    In an attempt to broaden my horizons I resolved to continue my exploration of the Tier 2 Termas and the so called "Darkside"-the area in Centro north of Ave Pres Vargas.

    Club 116,114.
    I just call them for what they are, 'trash clubs'. Visited all of them back in October last year, including Club 114 & 116. Your description of the places are spot on. These places are definitely not for the faint of hearts. Between the filthy infrastructures and the trashy women, I don't know what's worse. Be prepared as even decent looking girls are hard to come by. Most are overaged and below average on looks. I had only 3 sessions out of the 30 or so visits over a span of 2 months. I now consider them to be pure luck. The third pull ended up being a dud. Price-wise they are similar to the Centro casas / prives. Zebra, there a few others you didn't visit. I will list the ones I know below. I'm only writing about them because they are rarely discussed, other than by V. Its another source for women for future Rio mongers who want to broaden their horizon beyond the usual termas and casas / prives. That said, for the best quality in the nighttime, the tier 1 termas are the best option. For the best bang for your buck, the casas / prives are very budget friendly with good girl quality and great service.

    1) Rua Uruguaiana, 210 - IMO this one is the best of the bunch but that not saying much. Mulatas mostly, ranging from young and in decent shape to 30's with big guts. One of my successful session was from here. A 19 yr old, short, skinny mulata. She's a single mother with a BF. Lived two hours away. Face 6. 5/10. She was nice if not a bit shy. Super GFE lots of hugging and DFK. During sex she almost went bareback on me. It was tempting but in that place I thought better and went for covered. 110 reais for 40 minutes. The mistake pull was also occurred here. A 21 yr old, short average body mulata. I thought she looked hot inside the club. After some eye contact, she came over and we did some basic chitchat. I thought we had some good chemistry. She told me she could do it onsite or in a motel. She quoted me 150 reais to go outside. So I took her offer since I rather be in the comfort of my apt over the filthy onsite rooms. In better lighting outside however, I immediately had buyers remorse, as she wasn't as hot as I thought. But she was still a 7.5-8/10. Along the way, she tells me her birthday is the next day. She tells me she hadn't eaten anything all day. I normally never do this, but since it was her birthday, we stopped by a Mequi and I bought her some food. Once at my place we undressed and she started with a lackluster BBBJ. OK, that's OK I thought. As she came to lay next to me, I went in to kiss her. But she refused. When I asked her why, she said nobody kisses. Whatever that means. I call her out on her BS and she relents. But it was too late, the mood had already been ruined. I gave her the 150 reais and kicked her out. She was a nice girl but I made the rookie mistake of not questioning on details beforehand.

    2) are. The Alfândega, 119 - Located on the opposite end of Terma 502. This one is just ok. Doesn't have as many girls as the above. Sessioned only once here and it was a gem. Rafaela was in her 20's, short, slighty chubby morena. Initially I wasn't really into her. She was more on the cute side than beautiful, a solid 7/10. But her bubbly personality and her infectious smile won me over. The onsite shower was filthy so I opted not to take a shower. The room was terribly dim but the bed was big enough for a threesome. Rafeala provided one of the more stellar sessions I've had. She was delicious to kiss. She could go slow and soft or full on DFK. I could've made out with her for the entire session and it would've worth every cent. Her BBBJ was amazing. Her pussy was tight and ever tighter in doggy. Felt like I was anal fucking her. Between that and her big round butt, it didn't take long for me to pop. 110 reais for 40 minutes.

    3) Praça Monte Castelo, 26 - Only went here once. I got there late and they were about to close but they allowed me in. I was the only client there. There were 4 girls, one of which was a young white cutie. None of them approached me. They were preparing to leave. I was deciding on whether if I should call her over or not, but I got asked by another girl if I was going to choose anyone and that they are closing. So I left. Do I regret not pulling the trigger? No, not really.

    4) Rua Uruguaiana, 145, Rua the Conceição, 114 and 116,4 clubs on Rua Leandro Martins. Ok I am going to group these 7 together as the girl quality in them are pretty much the same in my eyes. The majority of the girls are out of shape, overaged and in the 5-6/10 range. The very few pretty young ones I did happen to see (2 or so), they all had attached themselves to someone and didn't even look my way. I never spent more than 5 minutes in each of them.

    Rio (and to lesser extent in sao paulo), the hottest women are the non-pros. I'm rapidly upping my portugues to become fluent. And since I'm not exactly prince charming, my portugues really needs to be on point. I was able to hold basic convos with the clinica girls this last time and that was big confidence booster. But not being able to carry a deeper and more complicated one was really frustrating. Literally like after 10 minutes I'd reach the limit of my vocab. That's fine in the clinicas when I'm finished a bit earily, and we chitchat for the remaining 5-10 minutes. But that's not going to fly when I'm trying to pickup a non-pro on the beach or on a night out.

    And I hardly met any girl who spoke decent English in Sao Paulo. The only one was a young cute receptionist I met at at a casa in Santo Andre. Along with one of the working girls (who spoke no English), the three of us had a long fun chat, half in Portuguese, half in English. It was the type of meaningful convo I was looking for which was beyond the basic small chitchat. Maybe if I had actively looked I would of found some. But I was too busy running around the clinicas. I was completely satisfied with the amount of quality girls and services I was getting in the clinicas that I didn't find the need to look for non-pros. I need to find a balance I'm comfortable with and dedicate some time away from mongering. I was in this consistent 'which clinicia I should go next, which girl I need fuck' mode. Haha. Anyone else in the same mindset as me? Perhaps dedicate M-F daytime to mongering and the weekends for non-pros??

  3. #24059
    If you are really a NATO military active duty or veteran, I will help you. PM me.

    Tell me about Pattaya Beach, especially if you did it as a member of a military service.

    Quote Originally Posted by Family1234  [View Original Post]
    I am going to Rio In September with my.

    Military buddy it will be our first time. We like to have women all night sometimes for multiple nights like a the. Are. Thailand Philippines vibe. How much will it cost where are the best places to look?

  4. #24058
    Quote Originally Posted by Family1234  [View Original Post]
    I am going to Rio In September with my.

    Military buddy it will be our first time. We like to have women all night sometimes for multiple nights like a the. Are. Thailand Philippines vibe. How much will it cost where are the best places to look?
    Vila Mimosa, Rua Soteiro dos Reis would be The perfect place for you.

  5. #24057
    Quote Originally Posted by Vagabundo1  [View Original Post]
    If you are mongering at 4 x 4, 116, or T31, then you should try to get the girl to Hotel Atlantico Tower. It has a good pool on the roof. In fact, if you are mongering at the centro prives during the day, or at any centro termas at night, this is a good spot because you can get a room there for 100 reais or less. There is a good pool on the roof for breaks between fucking. The rooms are fine. Most importantly, it is in walking distance of all the termas, including the dark side termas. It is 200 meters from 116,100 meters from T31,250 meters from 4 x 4, 200 meters from 502,150 meters from metro uruguiana, 75 meters from ave presidente vargas, and it is on Av Rio Branco.

    At 116, you will always find the top 10% are porn star quality hot negras and morenas, even a loira with a pretty face. The best morena bundinhas are top shelf. T31 yielded the absolute best in my experience in the last year. 4 x 4 always has top quality talent, at a premium price, and is always worth doing.
    Great advice, thanks.

    It looks like an MV30, T31,116 circuit could yield fruit.

  6. #24056

    Help me please

    I am going to Rio In September with my.

    Military buddy it will be our first time. We like to have women all night sometimes for multiple nights like a the. Are. Thailand Philippines vibe. How much will it cost where are the best places to look?

  7. #24055

    Professionals Study Logistics, True Insiders Study Personnel

    You should always have two addresses when in Rio, call them checkpoints 1 and 2. The first is.

    Checkpoint 1.

    Rua Visconde de Inhauma, 95 - Centro, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 20091-007•(21) 2121-1212. This is Hotel sao Francisco, or Hotel Atlantico Tower.

    https://www.google.com/travel/hotels...CQoFOgNCUkwaAA

    Checkpoint 2.

    Av Gastao Senges 395.

    Checkpoint 3.

    Hotel Panda, Rua Sao Clemente 200 block.

    Discussion.

    If you are mongering at 4 x 4, 116, or T31, then you should try to get the girl to Hotel Atlantico Tower. It has a good pool on the roof. In fact, if you are mongering at the centro prives during the day, or at any centro termas at night, this is a good spot because you can get a room there for 100 reais or less. There is a good pool on the roof for breaks between fucking. The rooms are fine. Most importantly, it is in walking distance of all the termas, including the dark side termas. It is 200 meters from 116,100 meters from T31,250 meters from 4 x 4, 200 meters from 502,150 meters from metro uruguiana, 75 meters from ave presidente vargas, and it is on Av Rio Branco.

    At 116, you will always find the top 10% are porn star quality hot negras and morenas, even a loira with a pretty face. The best morena bundinhas are top shelf. T31 yielded the absolute best in my experience in the last year. 4 x 4 always has top qualilty talent, at a premium price, and is always worth doing. The goal of mongering, the option of which you are buying is the mini relationship, IE, the pernoite a few times a week, for weeks or months on end, a trip to buzios once a month, the new honeymoon once a quarter, new 19 year old just fell in love vibe. The first move is to either hotel Atlántico tower as checkpoint 1 or to Transamerica (checkpoint 2). Checkpoint 3 is Hotel Panda, the best hotel in Rio, in the best local in rio. Botafogo is always better than Copa. It is not a tourist area, it is an upper middle class integrated (near favela Santa Marta) area, where criminals do NOT come looking for gringo tourists.

    You're at 10,000 feet and descending.

    You don't have a hotel booked.

    Where do you tell your uber to go?

    Rua Visconde de Inhauma, 95.

    And figure it the fuck out from there, because you're codename Vagabundo.

    Quote Originally Posted by WyattEarp  [View Original Post]
    That is quite a literary image. You would make Papa Hemingway proud.

    Since you got a peek at some of the talent, what are your impressions of the ladies? Decent faces? Horse butts? Dark and light girls?

  8. #24054

    Taxi

    Quote Originally Posted by WyattEarp  [View Original Post]
    While I have never driven a car to a love motel, I love (no pun) the fact that with some you can drive into a private garage with direct access to your room.
    And now Uber. Same purpose. Only places I care to drive a car are civilized countries like Germany and Switzerland.

  9. #24053
    Quote Originally Posted by ExecTalent  [View Original Post]
    The best love motels (many converted to regular motels and hotels for the Olympics and World Cup) have private entrances where customers and their guests can enter unseen from the street. A safeguard against one of a Brazilian woman's favorite pastimes. Reporting on the indiscretions of her friend's mate. Telenovelas. Life imitates art.
    While I have never driven a car to a love motel, I love (no pun) the fact that with some you can drive into a private garage with direct access to your room.

  10. #24052
    Quote Originally Posted by WyattEarp  [View Original Post]
    That is quite a literary image. You would make Papa Hemingway proud.

    Since you got a peek at some of the talent, what are your impressions of the ladies? Decent faces? Horse butts? Dark and light girls?
    Thanks for your nice comment. The talent is similar to 502- which is to say the girls are cut from a rougher cloth than the Tier 1 scene. Mostly on the darker, meatier side- but with a few mignon magra scattered in there. From the little I observed their behavior was far raunchier and unrestricted than the other Terma's with more aggression and directness. I would for sure return, but never on a Friday night.

  11. #24051
    Quote Originally Posted by ZebraStripes81  [View Original Post]
    In an attempt to broaden my horizons I resolved to continue my exploration of the Tier 2 Termas and the so called "Darkside"-the area in Centro north of Ave Pres Vargas...........

    I approach the doors of Club 116, 114 (R the Conceicao 116,114) which are two unguarded narrow openings in a building covered with graffiti in area adjacent to an empty lot with a constant ambient odor of feces. A red light flickers spasmodically in one of the doors, while a hypnagogic bluish glow adorns the other. I chose the left door to 116, and duck into a narrow passage that leads to a dark sequence of stairs. The floor is moist, possibly with urine or other substances, and I scurry like a rat to the top, turn left at the corner and take in a view of the club. Nobody up to this point, aside from the WG who tried to brush me aside to attend to her business, has even noticed my presence. The club is hot, humid, musty and crowded, filled with a raucous group of working-class Brazilian men and a handful of girls that hang on their arms intoning vulgar suggestions into the ears of their intoxicated companions. It is a tough looking scene and although I don't get any glares or necessarily feel out of place, I calculate immediately that my success rate here procuring and sessioning satisfactorily will be very low. Nevertheless I pause for a moment to take it- the mood an inversion of the manicured safety and upmarket hustle in the Copa Tourist Termas. It's worth coming back, but I would only do so on a weekday at an earlier time. Club 114 is similar but not quite as crowded, the interior thecor seemed to be scattered around as if some drunk partygoers had a laugh re-arranging the furniture in odd places or perhaps displaced by sudden gusts of wind from a phantom tornado. It looks like trash or debris is piled in one corner.
    That is quite a literary image. You would make Papa Hemingway proud.

    Since you got a peek at some of the talent, what are your impressions of the ladies? Decent faces? Horse butts? Dark and light girls?

  12. #24050

    Robes and other Safeguards

    The reason for robes is so street clothes do not smell like perfume, another woman or sex. Smart GDPs do not wear perfume as they know their Brazilian patrons will not want to bring home the scent of another woman (Hoo-ah! Brazilian women take jealousy to a whole other level. Best to be avoided at all costs.

    The best love motels (many converted to regular motels and hotels for the Olympics and World Cup) have private entrances where customers and their guests can enter unseen from the street. A safeguard against one of a Brazilian woman's favorite pastimes. Reporting on the indiscretions of her friend's mate. Telenovelas. Life imitates art.

  13. #24049

    See!

    Quote Originally Posted by ZebraStripes81  [View Original Post]
    In an attempt to broaden my horizons I resolved to continue my exploration of the Tier 2 Termas and the so called "Darkside"-the area in Centro north of Ave Pres Vargas. I approach the doors of Club 116, 114 (R the Conceicao 116,114) which are two unguarded narrow openings in a building covered with graffiti in area adjacent to an empty lot with a constant ambient odor of feces. A red light flickers spasmodically in one of the doors, while a hypnagogic bluish glow adorns the other. I chose the left door to 116, and duck into a narrow passage that leads to a dark sequence of stairs. The floor is moist, possibly with urine or other substances, and I scurry like a rat to the top, turn left at the corner and take in a view of the club. Nobody up to this point, aside from the WG who tried to brush me aside to attend to her business, has even noticed my presence. The club is hot, humid, musty and crowded, filled with a raucous group of working-class Brazilian men and a handful of girls that hang on their arms intoning vulgar suggestions into the ears of their intoxicated companions. It is a tough looking scene and although I don't get any glares or necessarily feel out of place, I calculate immediately that my success rate here procuring and sessioning satisfactorily will be very low. Nevertheless I pause for a moment to take it- the mood an inversion of the manicured safety and upmarket hustle in the Copa Tourist Termas. It's worth coming back, but I would only do so on a weekday at an earlier time. Club 114 is similar but not quite as crowded, the interior thecor seemed to be scattered around as if some drunk partygoers had a laugh re-arranging the furniture in odd places or perhaps displaced by sudden gusts of wind from a phantom tornado. It looks like trash or debris is piled in one corner.
    Do you see? Am I lying or am I crying? I'm crying if I gots to fuck up in there! The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. No parts left untold. Thanks! Some guys love it, but definitely not for the faint of heart! I would add that the termas of Copa (and other areas) are not just for tourists. Brazilians go to those as well, and they make up the primary clientele. Otherwise, those places could not survive.

    http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=2569380

  14. #24048
    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonPlayer  [View Original Post]
    I'm sorry sir but it doesn't take much research to prove you are wrong. Most of the clinicas, prives, and termas are illegal. They are tolerated and allowed to operate but they remain illegal. Some boates depending on the setup are legal. The most successful of the venues pay bribes to the police in order operate. I've never witnessed or heard of a customer having an issue because I don't believe he is doing anything illegal it's the owner operators of the establishments that are breaking the law. I'm not trying to put a damper on anyone's pleasure and I still go to Brazil and enjoy all of the venues but I don't like false information being posted.

    If we have any Brazilian attorneys on the board your input would be appreciated.
    Yes, I stand corrected.

    It's hard to describe a "shade of gray" when only using the words black and white. Perhaps a Brazilian lawyer could explain the employment status and compensation arrangements of the termas, prive and clinica girls. Obviously, "the house" is collecting the money on behalf of the girls. And yes, the girls must follow the rules.

    My comment on black and white is not meant to be argumentative. It's been said many times on ISG that sex venues around the world operate with the tacit approval of authorities whether they are legal or not. A sex venue operating within the law might be shutdown for some reason or another. Mabs is the best example of Brazilian sex workers operating as legal free agents. I'm certain that the authorities could shut it down if it became too big of a scene or any other nuisance.

    All anyone on this board cares about is that they won't get in trouble with the law. I also haven't heard of any Brazilian working girls going to jail.

  15. #24047

    The Darkside, More Tier 2, etc

    In an attempt to broaden my horizons I resolved to continue my exploration of the Tier 2 Termas and the so called "Darkside"-the area in Centro north of Ave Pres Vargas.

    Club 116,114.

    My usual wingman has no interest in the favela urchins that I have developed a taste for and so declined to accompany me this given night, but I'm comfortable enough at this point to fly solo at least in the early evening. I have my uber drop me off at the Windsor Guanbara so I can walk a little bit and acclimate to the area before arriving at my target destination. It is a Friday night in Centro, approximately 19:00 hrs and very lively- bands playing, crowds gathering at outdoor tables to eat drink and be merry. It would appear that Centro Friday nights are a time of celebration at the end of the work week and the abandonment of the area by pedestrians does not occur until the following day.

    I approach the doors of Club 116, 114 (R the Conceicao 116,114) which are two unguarded narrow openings in a building covered with graffiti in area adjacent to an empty lot with a constant ambient odor of feces. A red light flickers spasmodically in one of the doors, while a hypnagogic bluish glow adorns the other. I chose the left door to 116, and duck into a narrow passage that leads to a dark sequence of stairs. The floor is moist, possibly with urine or other substances, and I scurry like a rat to the top, turn left at the corner and take in a view of the club. Nobody up to this point, aside from the WG who tried to brush me aside to attend to her business, has even noticed my presence. The club is hot, humid, musty and crowded, filled with a raucous group of working-class Brazilian men and a handful of girls that hang on their arms intoning vulgar suggestions into the ears of their intoxicated companions. It is a tough looking scene and although I don't get any glares or necessarily feel out of place, I calculate immediately that my success rate here procuring and sessioning satisfactorily will be very low. Nevertheless I pause for a moment to take it- the mood an inversion of the manicured safety and upmarket hustle in the Copa Tourist Termas. It's worth coming back, but I would only do so on a weekday at an earlier time. Club 114 is similar but not quite as crowded, the interior theécor seemed to be scattered around as if some drunk partygoers had a laugh re-arranging the furniture in odd places or perhaps displaced by sudden gusts of wind from a phantom tornado. It looks like trash or debris is piled in one corner.

    Terma 81.

    I'm familiar with the area now, so the walk to are the Quitanda, 81 does not take long, but where on the map and in google street view Terma 81 should be, there is nothing. This Terma either no longer exists, is temporarily closed, or does not open on Fridays. Other mongers can advise.

    Club 21 de Lux.

    Is located in a narrow alleyway off of are Buenos Aires 21 called Beco das Cancelas or something similar. The two guys give me a funny look and say something in Porto that I don't understand as I enter and head up the stairs where a similarly befuddled man at the desks says something again in Porto I do not understand, repeating the word for man (Homem). Peeking into the Boate I gather very quickly that there are no mulheres on the premises and that "apenas homens" means that this club is either now a Gay club, or perhaps Friday night is Gay night. The attendant and door guys have a laugh as I make my retreat. Funny, the existing website for the club appeared hetero- but of course things change quickly.

    Terma 502.

    I lick my wounds and head to 502 where I run into a young mulatta I had sessioned with earlier in the week, not the one with the smelly hair, a cleaner nicer girl- but not quite as pretty. She was happy to see me, but not wanting to get in a rut, I was reluctant to indulge her and had my first beer of the evening to consider my options- finally deciding a quick dash to Whiskeria 65 would do no harm. The damage at the door after 1 beer is a measly 25. Well worth it for a look.

    Terma 65.

    It should be noted that 502 and 65 are both robe optional clubs (street clothes ok) which makes it really easy to duck in and out for recon purposes. Terma 65 also has a rotating stable of freelancers so you will get a different group of ladies just about every single night, which makes it great for repeats. Tonight was no exception and I was pleased at the number of new faces but found it hard to operate in the crowded boate. Again it seemed as if Friday is the night that the locals really fill up the place, and so the ratio was not great.

    Nursing a beer down in the lounge I'm eventually approached by a super cute young lady of 19 years who had just arrived in Rio 3 days prior from Vitoria in Espirito Santo. She was a bit nervous about everything, but so, so cute, pretty smile, glasses, tight sexy body, young and fresh and when she started making out with me I knew it was on. She was not my usual spinner type, but agreed to my requests and so we headed to the cabine where she provided a fantastic session again with very passionate kissing, DATY, a couple of positions, BBBJ with COF and CIM at the end. Some of my leite ended up in her pinkish / reddish dyed hair and on her cute little glasses, and she disappeared after the ½ hour ostensibly to clean herself in a more private setting and never reappeared before I left so sadly I did not catch her name or get her whatsapp. Total damage at the desk was 305 reals.

    Mab's.

    I ubered back to Mab's to meet my erstwhile wingman and get some food. We've been hanging out at Mab's a lot recently and have to say the scene is looking good. Lots of talent especially at around 22:30 hrs although it's hit or miss. Some of the girls are asking 400 but can be easily coaxed down to 300 or even 250/200 if they are not picked off too soon. I saw one of my regulars there who is trying to make a ton of money before she heads back home to her rural city and don't care much to be a part of her work marathon so declined her invitations. My buddy found a girl to his liking, and since I didn't need to pop again, I headed home.

    Next time I will try 116 at a different day / time and investigate MV30 and possibly Florida After. It appears that Terma Aquarius has closed and I'm not even certain about the other two, but only one way to know for sure.

    Zebra Out.

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