Lisbon

[Mongerer88]

Kelly Morais is running an apartadox ad again.

She was something of a legend, and very receptive to foreign tourists.

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...rais-3310.html

[Kama Leão]

It just doesn't attract the same working girl who advertises on a site like Apartadox, gets reviews, and tries to maximize the activities in an hour. She has a business name and a business reputation to protect, and she wants and needs repeat customers.

Absolutely.

Of course you may find a nugget in those clubs and not all the ApartadoX girls are unforgettable. But it's more likely to have a not so satisfying experience in the clubs.

[Member #4703]

So it looks like Elefante Branco, Gallery, and Black Tie are all very close together. Like walkable. As this is Lisboa not So Paulo, I assume it's OK to walk in this area at night? Has anyone done the circuit? Rank order in terms of overall experience and girls? Also I saw someone say these clubs are CBJ but I find most places worldwide this is a discussion point you can cover up front. Like in Moscow my prospect girl was "no" on BBBJ till I told her no thank you then. And suddenly it was OK (and great BTW!) True here as well? I assume some (most?) will give on this point if it's a deal breaker?

PS I speak good pickup Portuguese (Brazilian of course) so maybe that helps the vibe a bit?

Hey Steve,

I have walked once at 10 or 11 PM from Marques de Pombal to Elefanto, and it was perfectly fine. Gmaps shows its only 350 mts, but me and my friend got lost and ended up walking about 1 km I think in the area. Marques de pombal and the area around it is one of the most expensive / business-district kinda area, maybe the safest in Lisbon. I have also chased elusive incalls to areas a 25-30 cab ride in Lisbon at midnight, and everywhere I went felt safe even if there were not ao many people, so I assume you should be totally ok around Elefanto.

I took a girl from Elefanto back to my hotel once and even though in the club she said she does BBBJ, in the hotel she said she only sucks balls bare, but rest everything is not bare. This remains one of the biggest WTFs of my life. If I recall correctly, almost all the girls said no to a BBBJ and did not budge even if I said "No, thank you". I think the girl I took back was a bit desperate since the club was closing, and thus incorrectly said that she would provide a BBBJ. In my experience, Elefanto girls are not as good as the girls in agencies and Nuru Spa. If you go to a well reviewed agency or Nuru Spa girl, better chances of a good service. But I understand that its fun being in the club, and some might prefer that.

What I did in Barcelona was, I set up a midnight incall with a lady and spent a few hours in a club on La Ramblas, shooting the breeze with the ladies and watching some pole dance was enough to get me in the mood for an incall with a well reviewed incall lady.

I haven't don't the rest of the clubs, maybe someone else can pitch in.

[Mongerer88]

I didn't mean to imply that they were all CBJ, but I have read more CBJ reports at those places than in reviews of independents, Nuru Spa, or of EP. You aren't really negotiating from a position of power at the Lisbon clubs. Most of the guys seem to take them back to their hotels in Lisbon after eating, drinking and talking. The time and distance means that most of the ladies have one meeting per night, and it shows up in the higher pricing. You just have to hope she does everything she promised. Let's face it, most guys have a big dinner, a few drinks, and by the time he and she get back to the hotel room in the middle of the night, she works him off once, she likely fakes an orgasm, kissed him on the cheek goodnight, and takes her loot and leaves. It just doesn't attract the same working girl who advertises on a site like Apartadox, gets reviews, and tries to maximize the activities in an hour. She has a business name and a business reputation to protect, and she wants and needs repeat customers. Most guys who go to the Lisbon clubs can't remember the name of who they saw the next morning. But different strokes for different folks.

So it looks like Elefante Branco, Gallery, and Black Tie are all very close together. Like walkable. As this is Lisboa not So Paulo, I assume it's OK to walk in this area at night? Has anyone done the circuit? Rank order in terms of overall experience and girls? Also I saw someone say these clubs are CBJ but I find most places worldwide this is a discussion point you can cover up front. Like in Moscow my prospect girl was "no" on BBBJ till I told her no thank you then. And suddenly it was OK (and great BTW!) True here as well? I assume some (most?) will give on this point if it's a deal breaker?

PS I speak good pickup Portuguese (Brazilian of course) so maybe that helps the vibe a bit?

[TheGatsby]

Adrianna - https://Adrianna4u.wixsite.com/Adrianna.

I'm new here in this forum, but with many years of experience with girls that I find the most interest to recommend on this forum. I will report mainly about Portuguese escorts, and sometimes Brazilian escorts, who are really worth knowing. I don't go for the cheap ones. I go for the dream ones. The ones I think I want to keep in my shortlist.

I know Adrianna by sometime and I will tell how was our first encounter just to give you an impression how is she even today.

Adrianna is is from Lisbon and is a very highly rated provider in the Portuguese forum. Just constant 9's and 10's on her review thread.

Sometime she does threesome with others girls. One in Lisbon, a beautiful Brazilian girl named Tas which I met and also had a great experience and another in Porto with a top luxury escort named Alessia Brando.

She is a very beautiful 33 year old luxury escort girl, very restricted and exclusive and therefore she only has a peculiar website that's only has her phone number and email. She was recommended to me by an acquaintance of mine, who showed me Adrianna's website.

When I first contacted her, she sent me some pictures by WhatsApp and I was immediately convinced I had to meet her. And the photos didn't show her face (Because when I met her face to face I was blown away, much better than her photos).

I set the date with Adrianna in Lisbon in a hotel she was staying in.

But what matters is what goes on in the hotel room and that was excellent.

She opened the door wearing a black lace lingerie that made her breasts stand out, she is brunette with green feline eyes, very exotic. Her face is beautiful, with a captivating smile and a very top model look.

She's tall and has a curvy, voluptuous and beautiful body that I just wants to touch her all over her skin, especially her breasts, which are big and beautiful. They are augmented with silicone, yet soft to the touch that feel natural and have amazing nipples that are pointy and great for sucking.

She got close to me and started kissing me and she is an excellent kisser, especially the way she kisses with her tongue. Afterwards, she asked me if I wanted to go to the shower first, which I did and then back in the room she got on her knees and started sucking me.

We did a fantastic 69 to which she loved feeling my tongue on her clitoris and she reacted with some moans, which seemed genuine. After a few long minutes she put the condom on and sat on top of me, riding me in a crouch up and down, allowing me to see the penetration in full. Then it was my turn to be on top of her, with her legs over my shoulders and me creating an intense rhythm. I came on the doggy style position, with her touching herself all wet.

After the sex, we talked a little bit and then I went to the shower and in the end I got dressed and paid her 200.

This is a review that tells how was my first of many encounters I had with Adrianna, but there were others in different places, in Lisbon and in Porto and also several threesomes. One of which is set for the last week of June in Porto with Alessia.

I hope this review was helpful.

[Steve 9696]

Hi,

Just wanted to know if the following clubs open or closed.

Elefante branco.

Galleria.

Black Tie.

Hippopotamo.

Obrigado.

So it looks like Elefante Branco, Gallery, and Black Tie are all very close together. Like walkable. As this is Lisboa not So Paulo, I assume it's OK to walk in this area at night? Has anyone done the circuit? Rank order in terms of overall experience and girls? Also I saw someone say these clubs are CBJ but I find most places worldwide this is a discussion point you can cover up front. Like in Moscow my prospect girl was "no" on BBBJ till I told her no thank you then. And suddenly it was OK (and great BTW!) True here as well? I assume some (most?) will give on this point if it's a deal breaker?

PS I speak good “pickup” Portuguese (Brazilian of course) so maybe that helps the vibe a bit?

[TheGatsby]

Helena de Melo: http://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-e...Melo-5443.html.

I arranged a meeting with Helena de Melo through whatsapp. It was fast and efficient. The meeting was at the hotel.

Her fee was 150 for 60 minutes.

She claims to be 18 years old, but I think she is about 25 years old.

She has a pretty teen face and a well-built body with enlarged breasts, with small nipples that don't react to touch, and you can feel that's artificial because of the stiffness at the touch. But nevertheless, her breasts are beautiful.

She showed up and we chatted a bit to introduce ourselves and then she gave me a French kiss with her tongue. I felt a slight cigarette breath. She stripped off her clothes and knelt down and did a soft, wet blowjob for almost 15 minutes. Then she put the condom on me and we moved on to vaginal sex. We did the common positions like me on top, switched to her over me and in the end she turned on her back in the doggie style position and I grabbed her around the waist and we ended up like that. She said she doesn't do anal sex. She moaned with pleasure. I don't know if it was real or not, but it was convincing.

In short, I liked it and I will repeat it to see if it evolves into something more intense and more involving. As she is new to this job, she is still learning, so I will give her a new opportunity. For now it is a safe value.

[Mongerer88]

Thank you for the review.

Here is her link.

https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...opes-1975.html

Name: Laura.

Angolan nationality.

Age: Clearly Thirty something.

Height: 1.70, she's tall.

Color: Black.

Face: not too pretty for my taste, but not ugly.

Black hair...

[Juan81]

Name: Laura.

Angolan nationality.

Age: Clearly Thirty something.

Height: 1.70, she's tall.

Color: Black.

Face: not too pretty for my taste, but not ugly.

Black hair.

Breasts: Small and sagging but feeling good.

Tail: Could be better.

Kisses: Yes, but a strange kiss.

Oral: very good.

Vaginal: it's OK.

Anal: we didn't do it but I know it does.

Apartment: very nice.

About two weeks ago, I scheduled with Laura Melo, I went straight to the bedroom and she came to me in lingerie. She's tall, she came to me. Kisses to start and I went to wash in the bathroom. Then I went to bed and she went to the bathroom.

When I came she started making a nice blowjob. We were still there about 20 m on it then we moved to a "69", I put my fingers but no tongue on her.

She loves the hard sex, just going to the point. In between, we exchanged intense kisses.

Then I went to penetrate her from the back, . She bends her back very well and stays there with her tail upright. We didn't did anal, but sometimes we went from oral to vaginal at her request.

Finally, I like to do a facial and get in her face. She was ok! Was a good visit do Lisbon! I recommend.

7/10 .

J.

[TheGatsby]

First time in Lisbon, staying at the Intercontinental. RTFF shows no problem with girls there. Hoping to get some first hand advice: Can they come direct to the room? Meet in the lobby? Any tips? Obrigado.

That hotel is very discreet, but its safer if you meet the girl outside the hotel and then enter inside with her.

I can suggest two nice girls in Lisbon that are a safe choice (I will soon write reviews of both girls):

1 - Adrianna: adrianna4u.wixsite.com/adrianna.

2 - Helena de Melo: http://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-e...Melo-5443.html.

[JustARub]

First time in Lisbon, staying at the Intercontinental. RTFF shows no problem with girls there. Hoping to get some first hand advice: Can they come direct to the room? Meet in the lobby? Any tips? Obrigado.

Never had a single issue at Inte. Its easiest to meet them at taxi and walk them straight up.

[Smokers Rule]

First time in Lisbon, staying at the Intercontinental. RTFF shows no problem with girls there. Hoping to get some first hand advice: Can they come direct to the room? Meet in the lobby? Any tips? Obrigado.

[Kama Leão]

Lisbon and perhaps more importantly the surrounding areas of Sintra and Cascais are simply spectacular. The price of everything is reasonable. I find Portuguese women pretty in an exotic way, the sessions are GFE and honest.

I wouldn't have said it better. And I'm, not even remotely, what you'd call "a patriot".

[Mongerer88]

The place isn't without frustrations, but I have never understood how Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Spain, the United Kingdom, and the Czech Republic get two or three posts for every post regarding Portugal.

I think it is because the Portugal scene is primarily one in which an appointment is made with a lady, she either comes over to his hotel, or he goes to her place, they do the deed, and part ways. Pretty standard in Montreal and throughout North America, but a lot of guys on ISG prefer to see and interact with a lot of ladies at once during the process, and Lisbon doesn't have a lot of that.

As you noted, it does have some upscale dinner clubs where the guy and the lady meet. It works for a lot of guys, but not for me. With the time difference, those places end up getting started too late for me. If I have any chance of cumming twice in the hour, I need to take Viagra on an empty stomach, not a full one, and the dinner clubs are the only venue where a significant number of ladies are reported to be CBJ instead of BBBJ once you get them back to the hotel.

And it would certainly be nice if EP was more honest about ages and pictures. I love Sara of EP (she should give fellatio classes to other girls) but she isn't 25 any longer. I first saw her 7 or 8 years ago and she was early to mid 20's then. Similar comment about their star Carlotta who is usually listed as 18-20 but numerous posters say she is now in her 30's but has aged well, which is consistent with her reviews going back several years. It really interferes with selection. I saw Anna Castro from their group and really liked her, and she was genuinely a 19 year old college sophomore when I saw her.

Apartadox is very bad about accepting photoshopped pictures, and you are better off watching the video of the lady for more accuracy. And the reluctance of Apartadox to do price information and listing of services means that Lisbon is a destination that requires a lot of research. You have to join gp-pt.net and find the details and pricing for a lady you are interested in to see what she does, and how much she charges to do it. And you need to use a browser such as Google Chrome to read the reviews in translated English. And you need to click on the name of the reviewer and read his other reviews to get a feel for him. Portugal has more negative reviewers than any place I have ever come across.

Those are the bad things.

But there are a hell of a lot of good things, too.

I love spending an hour, or 90 minutes, or a couple of hours in a nice hotel room, or her nice apartment, fucking. I don't care for any stupid CBJs (much preferring BBBJ, preferably to completion). I like it when anal sex, or at least anal play, is available, and preferably with no upselling. In fact, I hate upselling of any kind. If you buy an hour, you should get an hour. If you come twice, she should say great, you must like me. Jesus, in some parts of Europe dominated by Russian touring agencies, I have actually seen ads listing a surcharge for toys while also indicating that the customer must bring the toys. So if I bring a vibrator and work her off, I pay her extra? What the fuck? You simply don't encounter that shit in Portugal. You encounter nice, honest girls that give you a great session for the time you purchased and they try to have a good time themselves. They are almost always GFE and BBBJ, and you rarely encounter an upsell.

As far as true Brazilians go, I do think they help keep the prices down. I think Kama said that he doesn't think the true to Brazilians typically tour Portugal, and I have a personal feeling that is the case. Personally, I think the language barrier is a big issue for most Americans seeing true Brazilians. I know there are exceptions. Kelly Morais (SP?) was one of the best providers in Lisbon, ever. While she might have been Brazilian, she was more of a permanent European type. It is the ones that fly in for tours that I am talking about. I think they provide a nice floor on pricing, but most Americans are going to be happier with a true Portuguese provider who studied English in school. Most of them are fluent in English, unlike their true Brazilian sisters. An exception might exist with respect to the Nuru Spa, which does really seem dedicated to providing good service, and massage places are always a haven for temporary foreign workers.

Anyway, long post that didn't say much. Lisbon and perhaps more importantly the surrounding areas of Sintra and Cascais are simply spectacular. The price of everything is reasonable. I find Portuguese women pretty in an exotic way, the sessions are GFE and honest. The information to find the right ones to book for your particular taste is available even though it is time consuming. So it has always worked for me.

M88,

As Vincent Vega said, that's a bold statement. But given your knowledge about the most underrated scene in North America, MTL, and my fascination with the Lusophone world, I'm listening.

My take from letting my fingers do the walking, and RTFF the past 10 pages:

I usually prefer 26-28 yo girls who are curvy but fit. My recon of the escorts sites would list EscortPrivada, MomentosdePrazer & Apartadox in decreasing order but many girls seem 5 years older than my ideal. Not necessarily a problem as long as the photoshop hasn't gotten out of hand and service levels are GFE. I don't go with anyone who doesn't DFK and BBBJ..

[HarvestBoi]

The most underrated escort scene in Europe opens to Americans.

M88,

As Vincent Vega said, that's a bold statement. But given your knowledge about the most underrated scene in North America, MTL, and my fascination with the Lusophone world, I'm listening.

My take from letting my fingers do the walking, and RTFF the past 10 pages:

I usually prefer 26-28 yo girls who are curvy but fit. My recon of the escorts sites would list EscortPrivada, MomentosdePrazer & Apartadox in decreasing order but many girls seem 5 years older than my ideal. Not necessarily a problem as long as the photoshop hasn't gotten out of hand and service levels are GFE. I don't go with anyone who doesn't DFK and BBBJ.

Given the above, if GFE is not assumed then I'the like to access a review board. I couldn't find gp pt.net via Google?

I'm not normally a clinica or brothel guy but the nuruspa LU looks promising.

Any boate action? Elefante Branco looked like it may be a putaclub from the website. Where does Ronaldo go to party LOL?

Wherever there are brasileras there is safado-ness. I assume there must be a circuit of top garotas from Brasil who come to Portugal?

My plan would be to go for a couple of weeks, combining mongering with getting to know the city and taking some language classes which will be useful when Brasil opens up.

Your post are always full of insight so any response is welcome to me.

Hb.