American Politics

[EihTooms]

Rush, Tucker, Hannity, Alex Johns and other ultra-right pundits have actually accomplished a lot. They've amassed huge personal fortunes.

And there're still billions to be made in lying. Rupert Murdoch infamously said that if there had been as much money in liberal punditry, he would've switched in a second.

I don't know why it is the way it is. Maybe because liberals tend to doubt everything, whatever the source. The conservatives, especially the ultras, tend to eat any garbage with gusto, as long as it conforms to their existing worldviews.

Can you imagine liberal Qanon? Liberals would've been the first to laugh it out of existence.

And the funniest part is, after every bite they lick their lips and call us sheep, LOL.

It goes back to at least Reagan. He conflated Dems with Liberals and then proceeded to demonize "libs" so effectively in the mind of voters already open to voting for Repubs his VP successor in the White House actually resorted to calling the ideology "the L word."

And once you have demonized the one political Party that produces and presides over every significant economic recovery, expansion, USA jobs creation, stock and housing market gain, etc and none of the Crashes going back as far as legitimate data exists for such things, it is easy to get hysterical suckers to vote for or choose ANYTHING, even the most damaging economic and national security results for themselves, their friends, family and country, in order to avoid being perceived as a member of that mis-aligned and demonized group.

Republican-voting suckers actually caught and died from Covid-19 after refusing to wear a mask for fear that they would be taken for a "Democrat"/"lib" for doing so.

[John Clayton]

...They've amassed huge personal fortunes. And there're still billions to be made in lying. ...

I kick myself for not getting some of that money. Twelve years ago, with the rise of the Tea Party, I had the insight that we should start a 501 (c)(3) "Real Americans for Patriotism Tomorrow" or something. Just a webpage, "Send Obama back to Kenya", "If you WANT the US to get out of North America in 2012, send $39 to RAPTomorrowToday.com, etc etc. Of course, 90% of the receipts would go to administrative costs (me), 10% on amygdala stimulating web ads. Perfectly legal and perfectly easy. I mean, I don't need the money, but there is something really appealing to me about getting money by doing nothing. Especially, by tricking these gullible fools. It's still not too late. Indeed, billions are still being stripped from the American Kook Klass.

The republican party really has devolved into a know nothing / anti science party -- a party of the credulous. Why? I think it is largely correlated with religious belief. Once you have allocated a portion of your brain for the belief that there is an invisible Ghost living in the Sky, who listens to your prayers and who controls everything, then you simply can believe anything. That's why the republicans have become such perfect marks for a skilled grifter like Trump. He has looted hundreds of millions from them since the election, and just used it for himself-- yet there is more. His minions have an infinite capacity to believe.

[PVMonger]

Multiple fake news media and democrat (but I repeat myself) organizations and figures posted cast-iron guarantees stating that they had prima facie evidence that Trump had colluded with Russian his election. As we now know, this was a lie. Despite years of intensive investigation, no such evidence was ever found, because it did not happen.

Why have these democrats and media liars not had their social media accounts banned for posting these unsubstantiated conspiracy theories that ignited insurrection and violence?

First, Mueller didn't investigate collusion. He investigated conspiracy. They are two different things.

Second, Mueller did find evidence. In fact, he said in his report "a statement that the investigation did not establish particular facts does not mean there was no evidence of those facts. " In fact, Mueller also wrote that the "investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts. " I realize that there are a lot of bigly words in the quote and I can see how someone with limited capacity would be confused.

You might want to read the following if you are able. https://time.com/5610317/mueller-rep...ths-breakdown/.

[Xpartan]

It is amazing how many inconvenient details they have a fabricated answer for and commited to memory.

And to what end?

By all available and easily observable historical and recent evidence their sole mission is to maintain or install Republicans and thereby assure we get to the next Great Republican Depression, Recession, Stock and Housing Market Crash, Massive USA Job Loss and "Once in 100 Years!" Disaster ASAP that always occurs under and due to Republican Party stewardship and never under and due to Democratic Party stewardship.

Seems like a colossally counterproductive life's mission for anyone claiming to want America to succeed. Good one for a Russian operative though.

Just think, Rush Limbaugh went to his grave having accomplished just that for his entire life's work and nothing else. Tucker Carlson is working on that being his only accomplishment in life, too.

Oh well.

Rush, Tucker, Hannity, Alex Johns and other ultra-right pundits have actually accomplished a lot. They've amassed huge personal fortunes.

And there're still billions to be made in lying. Rupert Murdoch infamously said that if there had been as much money in liberal punditry, he would've switched in a second.

I don't know why it is the way it is. Maybe because liberals tend to doubt everything, whatever the source. The conservatives, especially the ultras, tend to eat any garbage with gusto, as long as it conforms to their existing worldviews.

Can you imagine liberal Qanon? Liberals would've been the first to laugh it out of existence.

And the funniest part is, after every bite they lick their lips and call us sheep, LOL.

[Canada]

I was wondering what the anti American, anthem kneeling and flag burning democrats did on 4th of July since they can't honor or respect USA and this great country. Maybe PV monger and his buddies can tell us how their flag burning went last weekend.

[Canada]

Fascists, aka the Republican party, want to whitewash January 6th. https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-...-riot-n1265613.

The remaining fascists, aka the 74 million who voted for the orange buffoon, hate antifa because those 74 million are fascists.

Why won't you answer the question? We're BLM and Antifa riots more violent than Jan 6? Which has more damage and looting? Can you answer that?

[Canada]

Just declare anything that goes against your agenda "fake news," add something like "as we now know" and your job is done. Cute.

Russian collusion was proved to be fake news. No sane person is disputing this.

[EihTooms]

Just declare anything that goes against your agenda "fake news," add something like "as we now know" and your job is done. Cute.

It is amazing how many inconvenient details they have a fabricated answer for and commited to memory.

And to what end?

By all available and easily observable historical and recent evidence their sole mission is to maintain or install Republicans and thereby assure we get to the next Great Republican Depression, Recession, Stock and Housing Market Crash, Massive USA Job Loss and "Once in 100 Years!" Disaster ASAP that always occurs under and due to Republican Party stewardship and never under and due to Democratic Party stewardship.

Seems like a colossally counterproductive life's mission for anyone claiming to want America to succeed. Good one for a Russian operative though.

Just think, Rush Limbaugh went to his grave having accomplished just that for his entire life's work and nothing else. Tucker Carlson is working on that being his only accomplishment in life, too.

Oh well.

[GDreams]

Multiple fake news media and democrat (but I repeat myself) organizations and figures posted cast-iron guarantees stating that they had prima facie evidence that Trump had colluded with Russian his election. As we now know, this was a lie. Despite years of intensive investigation, no such evidence was ever found, because it did not happen.

Why have these democrats and media liars not had their social media accounts banned for posting these unsubstantiated conspiracy theories that ignited insurrection and violence?

LOL. Trump in one of rallies asked Putin directly for help. Get Hillarys emails! Don Jnr met with a Russian operative to get dirt on Hillary. Papadopolus bragged to the Australian Foreign Minister that Trump was receiving help from the Russians. Why did Trump conduct 10 acts of Obstruction of Justice if he were innocent? Its just not logical for him to do that if there was not something to hide? Why all the lying from the minions? Why the rants against Sessions and Mueller. Why fire Comey? If he had nothing to fear he should have shut up and it would have gone away. But no he didn't. Just like the I didn't pay hush money, I haven't done anything illegal with my taxes, he didn't defraud his charity and all the other scumbag crap he does that are in plain site but republitards conveniently ignore.

[Chris P]

Just declare anything that goes against your agenda "fake news," add something like "as we now know" and your job is done. Cute.

Many democrats and media figures and organizations perpetuated the unsubstantiated Russia! Conspiracy theory. This was investigated for over two years, probably more and harder than anything or anyone has ever been investigated before, and zero evidence of collusion was found.

Whatever your political views, the above is a fact. No evidence of Trump-Russia collusion was found, despite extensive investigation, and despite the false claims of figures such as Adam Schiff that they had evidence.

Why have these people and organizations not had their social media accounts banned for posting these unsubstantiated conspiracy theories that ignited insurrection and violence?

[Golfinho]

Here's what will happen in 2024. A Democratic candidate will win the Presidency.

Of course the Democratic candidate will win in 2024. They'll be running the corpse of Joe Biden. The man has been so popular while senescent, why his legend and reputation can only grow. Do you think the National Democrat Committee that decides who you will have to vote for could be so utterly out of touch that they'd actually put Camela Harris over on the voters, unless of course they learned nothing from 2016 and actually believe HRC would have won if not for the meddling of Russians?

[Paulie97]

Just declare anything that goes against your agenda "fake news," add something like "as we now know" and your job is done. Cute.

And that's precisely how cults flourish, by poisoning the well to any and all outside influences.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...n%20the%20well

[Xpartan]

Multiple fake news media and democrat (but I repeat myself) organizations and figures posted cast-iron guarantees stating that they had prima facie evidence that Trump had colluded with Russian his election. As we now know, this was a lie.

Just declare anything that goes against your agenda "fake news," add something like "as we now know" and your job is done. Cute.

[SouthEaster]

It may seem obvious to many but not the Trump worshippers apparently. To Chris P, Canada et al: Your posts would carry a bit more weight (not to mention veracity) if you would post even a few verifiable points instead of "everyone knows", "of course", "the only logical explanation", etc, along with a few whoppers like this one " A tiny proportion of them, organized and encouraged by undercover federal agents, walked peacefully through open doors into the Capitol building, damaging nothing and attacking nobody. " You obviously have not seen some of the same videos of the situation as many of the rest of us have, or you are deliberately lying or deluded, I don't know which. I am not sure there is an answer to this as you refuse to believe any evidence provided by others (fake news) and when you make statements like the one above, well it is pretty clear you aren't going to be convincing anyone either.

I am waiting for the results of the Arizona "audit" with great anticipation. I think we will hear the collective heads of the Trumpsters exploding all the way across the border. You know, where the real "Canada" is.

[Chris P]

The charging documents currently being used to crucify Trump supporters for trespassing in the Capitol (while BLM / antifa have charges dropped after burning cities and assaulting people) have revealed something very interesting: dozens of unnamed, unindicted co-conspirators who were present in the Capitol building.

Given the zeal with which the feds have hunted down every last grandma who wandered through open doors and spent a couple of minutes looking round before leaving, how and why is it that there are so many people who were at the heart of the unrest, and even involved in its planning and organisation, who have not only not been charged but not even named?

The only realistic explanation is that these people were FBI operatives.

We now know that many of these unindicted, unnamed co-conspirators were part of the tiny group of hotheads who were planning to rush (unarmed) the Capitol as part of the protest. The FBI clearly had advance warning that some people were going to try to do this. Why did they not ensure sufficient policing at the building to prevent it?

Again, the only logical explanation is that the FBI, along with the media, democrats, anti-Trump RINOs and the rest of the Washington establishment, wanted it to happen.

The entire thing was a psy-op. Undercover FBI agents wound up some hotheads, and led them into the Capitol through open doors after the undermanned police stood aside. No doubt they were disappointed that they didn't try and burn the place down and attack people, but that is how antifa / BLM communists conduct themselves, not patriotic Americans.

Then the fake news media and democrats (but I repeat myself) kicked into their part of the plan, screeching hysterically and trying to create a fake narrative that never happened.

The fact that so few Republicans believe this Big Lie (or the Big Lie of Biden's "election") despite the full-court press from the fake news is fantastically encouraging. We have 75 m+ patriotic Americans, inoculated against the fake news democrat establishment lies, with more waking up every day and realising how much those people hate us. There is real hope for the future.