Kyiv

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When I get a green light off the street, I just ask if she's open to erotic message at my place. Anything else is likely a scam.

Erotic massage is the cheapest way to bring a lot of girls back to your place. They can lead you to real prostitutes without middlemen.

This reminds me an old joke:

Two experienced mongers discuss the ways of engaging the representatives of opposite gender:

- So, what do you you usually do?

- I usually invite them for a dance. And then delicately elaborate my desires.

- How do you do that?

- I say politely, Madam, would you like to fuck please?

- Oh my god! What if she perceives it as an insult and slaps you in the face?

- Sometimes they do, you know. But sometimes it works out for the better.

[Riina]

If she is friendly ask her if she either now or another time want a drink etc.

There is nothing to loose.

When I get a green light off the street, I just ask if she's open to erotic message at my place. Anything else is likely a scam.

Erotic massage is the cheapest way to bring a lot of girls back to your place. They can lead you to real prostitutes without middlemen.

[Jim0129]

I can give you some pointers:

1) Get on Telegram, and use Google Translate.

2) You can search for Indies in Kyiv on Keksik, google it. There are also other sites such as relaxportal and minuet.

Contact any that you like from Keksik using Telegram and do the usual research regarding services fake pics etc.

Yes.

When you say "do the usual research" What research do you do for ukranian girls? Sorry to ask but I've never been to Kiev and I am planning to in the future, once I get bored with Medellin.

[Member #4722]

On Tuesday had a 3-hour date planned with the hottest lady I've met so far. Date was scheduled for 9 pm and she wasn't on WhatsApp all day and didn't answer my messages so I started to make other plans. She finally canceled 5 minutes before our date was to start. Went on mamba and quickly got a few responses. One agreed to come for $200. More than I wanted to pay but I was already ready for a date. It was raining hard on Tuesday night. She had a problem finding my location even though I gave her the correct address. This girl was stuck in the rain for 5 minutes and she was irate. Tried to calm her down but she got more bitchy. She asked why I didn't have wine even though she didn't ask for any. She never said how much she wanted for taxi so I left 200 and she was demanding 400. She was hot but I wanted to abort mission. She already had the money in hand so I just said I would give her 500 uah for taxi. Was too much I'm sure to get rid of her but I had the feeling she would pocket the $200. She grabbed the taxi money and stormed out and I immediately blocked her on all platforms.

[Desin]

And one more small detail: as she asked if I smoke as she was ready to get a cigarette and offer it to me, I declined. Then she switched the pack from which she took for herself. Maybe nothing, but maybe not.

NorsKing wrote that there are girls on the street making eyecontact. Just a few minutes ago I had a girl doing this to me, as we walked the same direction. I would say she looked like a teally hot instagram girl, but she was dressed the way she was, I had no interest. Too stylish to me. Belongs to Avalon and such places.

Now I'll find a place to drink and try to keep myself from writing when I'm bit drunk. I tend to get poetic.

[Desin]

I have been a week in Kiev now. I've decided to pass on the Mamba girls, whom have provided pictures where they appear to be older than in their profile pictures and / or have appeared to lack the desired attitude towards the interaction.

This decision was made right before today's supposed meeting with my to-be dream girl. Cute as hell. From Tinder. She also provided another photo in Telegram. A blonde. We were supposed to meet one day, but she ghosted. All the time she talked on going for a drink. But as she made another contact, we agreed on meeting. As I was waiting her, I recalled the lessons I had read from here. I thank you all for them.

The blonde cute girl-nextdoor fuckbunny didn't show up. Instead it was a black haired, kinda chubby girl. I suggested we walk and go to a good cocktail bar I had googled beforehand. She whined. "Why can't we just go there (pointing at an alley with no sign of a bar), I go there all the time with my friends. " I swapped my suggestion to a closer one, again from googlemap. As we came over it (it was like 100 meter walk) she wanted to stop for a smoke, wrote with her phone and then asked that she would come after few minutes, she'd just meet her friend from there (she pointed towards the building block where she wanted us to go). At this point I saw my chance to do the gentleman's bail out, told that I think this is not going to work, I'm sorry for her trouble. She took it easily. Quite very easily. She wasn't for the act.

Now I will continue to enjoy Kiev, and not bother myself too much about the play. This is wonderful city to spend holiday at truly.

If someone has legit girl-nextdoor kinda friends who like easy gigs, I'm in Discord and would be glad to have contacts. But otherwise I think I'll have better time by not trying too hard. It's a tough place.

[Member #4722]

Had only my second bait and switch ever on Mamba. I didn't realize it until the end of the date as she sent glamour shots and the girl was close enough. Great date! She was cute and very nice body. 3000 and I had taxi money hidden because she didn't ask but I left it on the pile because of good service. She was open and we did kissing, DATY and she gave a hot session. Her BBBJ was top level and I wanted to finish with CIM so I pushed her head down when I was ready and shot a huge load down her throat.

I guess it was an agency or the original girl I was talking to couldn't make it and called her friend. Regardless, I was happy and I got her direct number and will repeat if I have time.

[CheckItOut1337]

I can give you some pointers:

2) You can search for Indies in Kyiv on Keksik, google it. There are also other sites such as relaxportal and minuet.

Contact any that you like from Keksik using Telegram and do the usual research regarding services fake pics etc.

Yes.

Where do you find numbers to get in contact with any of them on Keksik? Doesn't seem to be anything there.

[VinDici]

first I tried is redlight massage.

https://redlight-massage.kiev.ua/en/girls/

Redlight sounds good and the pricing on the site is reasonable. Do you know if BBBJ is on offer, or is it only HJ? Can you touch the girls during the HJ, and if so to what extent is it allowed?

Thanks.

[Ringudor]

As I visited lot of strip clubs last week, I decided to know for massage with handjob ending for that week, first I tried is redlight massage.

https://redlight-massage.kiev.ua/en/girls/

I was with Eva the first girl in the list, real pics, really pretty and so hot.

Then, 4 days ago I was to relaxmassage: https://relaxmassage.kiev.ua/ I chosen a girl called Dina, I don't see her in pics in website, she had very good massage technics and a cheerful personality.

Last massage I was to red light again thinking in making a threesome with two masseuses at a time, there was only 1 free masseuse: Eva, I was so happy to meet her again. Don't care about 3 some, other day I will do.

[Member #4722]

Kiev is more of a long term game but I had fun on my first trip for only 8 days. It's getting more difficult every year. As you can see by my reports I've had a mix of bad and good. Some of the naysayers here that are the loudest have an agenda. You can look at my past reports for my Mamba dating system that has worked well for me. But four years ago it was 80% hotties and now a mixed bag. Everyone should come here to try it out. Most that visit want to come back.

And I will add that I am here for vacation, partying and culture, and mongering is a secondary goal. If someone is just coming for women and has a lot of time for that pursuit, I think the results will be a lot better.

[VinDici]

I am looking for outcalls or incalls where there is a decent lineup to choose from (around 2 k Hryvna for hour with a grade 7 ok with me)

I can give you some pointers:

1) Get on Telegram, and use Google Translate.

2) You can search for Indies in Kyiv on Keksik, google it. There are also other sites such as relaxportal and minuet.

Contact any that you like from Keksik using Telegram and do the usual research regarding services fake pics etc.

Is this doable for a first timer in Kiev?

Yes.

[Member #4722]

Just bought a 10 day trip to Kiev and then started to RTFF (((

All I see is scams everywhere. Expensive clubs, I mean 2 or 3k deposit, 800+ for a dance who needs it if you can't fuck?

Salons are massage / happy ending only. What's the point of you can't fuck?

All the escort sites are bait and switch, heavily photoshopped, nice girls are 3-4k!

Bad service mentioned in some reports.

Fuck that. Feel so stupid ((( Probably sounding like a cheapskate since I spend much more on girls in Western Europe. But I thought I was going to bloody Eastern Europe!!!

Fellows please put me out of my misery. I am looking for outcalls or incalls where there is a decent lineup to choose from (around 2 k Hryvna for hour with a grade 7 ok with me).

Kiev is more of a long term game but I had fun on my first trip for only 8 days. It's getting more difficult every year. As you can see by my reports I've had a mix of bad and good. Some of the naysayers here that are the loudest have an agenda. You can look at my past reports for my Mamba dating system that has worked well for me. But four years ago it was 80% hotties and now a mixed bag. Everyone should come here to try it out. Most that visit want to come back.

[Rugga]

Just bought a 10 day trip to Kiev and then started to RTFF (((

All I see is scams everywhere. Expensive clubs, I mean 2 or 3k deposit, 800+ for a dance who needs it if you can't fuck?

Salons are massage / happy ending only. What's the point of you can't fuck?

All the escort sites are bait and switch, heavily photoshopped, nice girls are 3-4k!

Bad service mentioned in some reports.

Fuck that. Feel so stupid ((( Probably sounding like a cheapskate since I spend much more on girls in Western Europe. But I thought I was going to bloody Eastern Europe!!!

Fellows please put me out of my misery. I am looking for outcalls or incalls where there is a decent lineup to choose from (around 2 k Hryvna for hour with a grade 7 ok with me).

Any clubs where you can take to a room (for sex not just a dance)? Or even take out for around 3 k?

Is this doable for a first timer in Kiev?

Thanks fellows )

[Member #4722]

Just had a date with Katrin from Mamba. 2500 for an hour. She was high on my list but we lost communication but I tried again and she agreed to come over. She has a girl next door look in pictures and looks tall and athletic. In person she had pretty face but she was a little fat. But she had huge DD tits so I bring out the oil for some titty sex. CBJ but she was open to directions and she went so deep she had tears running down her face. Did DATY. She said she liked it but if she came she was silent. Did a couple positions and finished and she was out the door. Wasn't attracted to her so no repeat for me, even though it was a fun time.