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[Qazwsx5]

It seems that selecta has shut its doors, they have put the club up for sale, so.

[Qazwsx5]

First of all thanks to pepe and AE for their reports, very useful.

As andaluzexpat says it seems that some clubs open their doors and then shut again, golden cock is open for 3,4 nights a week then shut for a few days, not sure how it is working, maybe only by appointment or private party??

Villa magna in plaza solymar is open, quality is good but the girls change a lot so you never know what to expect, but the good thing is that you can leave if you do not like the line up.

Estark 92, the quality is good, lots of punter at night, very busy in fact. There is normally no parking space outside close to the club, but few foreign tourists, so not sure if it is making money or not, but the good looking ones are busy and making money (but maybe not everyone).

Scandalos, ok the quality is really good, no one can deny that but pricey and not very busy (well it is marbella price now so.) I know that some people are paying those rates and go there. So if you do not mind paying high prices and you care about quality then go there.

Marbella area, very high quality in the posh bars, discos great fun, prices range from 200 up to 500 or even more.

[PayForIt]

Thanks Pepe. The E20 plastic flute at E92 has gone. No cheaper option now than 30 e drink for the girls which is silly and I've told the management that not only do I have that view. His response is that both Scandalos and Glass Palace have 50 only drinks so E92 is competitive! I told him that if you reduced girl drinks to 15 and 20 most guys would buy several. But this is not the Spanish way. Will never forget in 2008 after the credit crunch in the UK the golf courses on the CDS put prices up because tourism dropped! I recall speaking to the pro at the Marbella Club who said they needed to put up the prices due to lack of demand. I asked how many players were on the course having paid 150 euros each for their round. When he said only 4 I told him if he'the kept it at 60 euros there might be 40 players and to do the maths. He looked bewildered, shook his head and clearly thought I had lost my mind. Spanish economics!

Gym body Ro Johanna at Scandalos is very good in the room, but alas she cannot compete with the excellent and very pretty Latina options there now. And my fav Norena (small blonde Ro. Very pretty).

Interesting influx of newbies at E92. I am really surprised you saw none of the class of 2020 - I was there only 5 weeks ago and met up in the club with Julia, Ina, Alicia, Marissa, Christina, both Monika's, Kelly, Bianca (new boobs) and blonde Beatrice. All from last year.

I am not on the coast due to work commitments (mainly sports) far and wide and will not be able to get there until the Olympics which has now started, ends in August. Which may see me posting the odd report from Japan if work permits!

[Pepe1976X]

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Casino in E92 doesn't close at 21.00 but at midnight unless they changed it either last week or for a Sunday. Normally midnight.

There are in fact 2 managers at E92 - both long serving and they rotate who works. Both nice guys. One Spanish the other Romanian.

Girl drinks are indeed 50 in Scandalos but are 30 not 50 in E92. It is 50 e for a small bottle of champagne in E92 for the girl. She just didn't tell you that there is another cheaper option! Clearly trying it on.

Prices quoted at Scandalos are largely correct but most of the girls in Scandalos demanding 250/ hour will negotiate. I tend to tell them I will do the following deal: I want to pay 400/2 hours. If the service is good after one hour we continue to 2 hours for the 400.

My main correction is to a "cut and paste" error. The manager was at Scandalos not Estark. Can't currently remember his name but have previously used it in reports should anyone feel they require it. A gentleman and a good host. Has both previously bought me drinks and tapas!

I hope Scandolos does continue to trade as I have had great experiences and seen many stunning and sexy putas there over the years but my comment was on it's different income model from E92 and still think that is under pressure in both this period and what will be in the so called recovery period! Currently don't see any immediate issues for E92. The Dominicana Mulata with the guitar shaped body, small waist and pretty face along with a petite but gorgeous bodied Argentinian are definitely close to being 9's and will maintain Scandalos previous rep. For having some stunning WGs.

Previously when buying Ladies Drinks have bought them cervezas which the Latinas in particular liked. Was once asked to buy a packet of crisps and lemon for one wish they always had such affordable tastes. A Colombian delicacy! E92 used to do a specific Ladies drink that they served in a plastic flute at 20 E. Which was both affordable and gave the girl the impression that you were not mean! The WG's got bought these regularly had seemed to have a bit of kudos in who had the most of these at the end of the night. Have always given the Latinas coins for the juke box as an ice breaker. From 5 girls not one of them was familiar with it's current selection of Brazilian or Colombians hits. That for sure tells me E92 is full of new arrivals and turning over quickly. So much so that my previous reports have always had at least a few names for punters to use but this time felt it genuinely a waste of time as I can't see those WGs being there in 2 weeks time! Did not see one WG in either Scandalos or Estark from previous years but had seen their pics in adverts in Slumi for Marbella etc several days ago. Not even Florintina and her pals were in E92 .

I like the bar in Sala Divas and it is very close to El Romerito Hotel which is equi distance from Scandalos so a good alternative to NH Nostrum as well as being a good and affordable hotel. For the sake of one girl and also a very close in standards Brazilian, bigger boobs and a couple more years compared to the gym body Romanian would not make it the main feature of your night.

Yes as previously mentioned the Dominicana's and Silicon enhanced Colombiana MILF's Club of choice as so many WG seemed to be from there is closed with rental boards in the windows Malaga Glass House and another Casa that was a Colombian institution in Torremolinos in Calle Colombiahas also folded with a JCB now in the car park and the security gates gone.

Pay For It if you are still on the coast keep up the good work and although I'm not avidly following ISG as previously will look forward to your insightful reviews and adventures of the Puterias of Andalucia!

[PayForIt]

Thanks to AE and Pepe for their reports. Couple of points to correct:

Casino in E92 doesn't close at 21.00 but at midnight unless they changed it either last week or for a Sunday. Normally midnight.

There are in fact 2 managers at E92 - both long serving and they rotate who works. Both nice guys. One Spanish the other Romanian.

Girl drinks are indeed 50 in Scandalos but are 30 not 50 in E92. It is 50 e for a small bottle of champagne in E92 for the girl. She just didn't tell you that there is another cheaper option! Clearly trying it on.

Prices quoted at Scandalos are largely correct but most of the girls in Scandalos demanding 250/ hour will negotiate. I tend to tell them I will do the following deal: I want to pay 400/2 hours. If the service is good after one hour we continue to 2 hours for the 400. If I decide to end the session after only one hour I'll pay the 250 - but that is my choice not theirs. I have not had a single girl refuse this. The service is therefore then usually excellent as they want the second hour. Albeit only at 150, given that the alternative is having to head downstairs, quick shower / freshen up, then hit the bar hoping for another punter when they have one already snared in the room willing to hit go on the second hour.

The notion of Scandalos going out of business, respectfully, is hopelessly misconceived. I really would not judge any club on a slow Sunday night. The fact that there were 45 girls in E92 on a Sunday tells me they are up to over 60 on Fridays and Saturdays. I recently spent 4 nights in 3 weeks in Scandalos and the place was bouncing. Lots of punters, lots of girls and no sign at all of a pandemic or slow trade. I spoke recently with one of the female house managers and I can tell you that the club is performing really well in the recovery post pandemic. You will not be seeing Scandalos close anytime soon. Sad to see one or two of the smaller venues fall victim to the pandemic. The big clubs won't do so and as I have reported before. E92 is seeing money spend on rooms etc.

Surprised you came across a stunner in Sala Divas! I shall check her out! Glad the standard of girls at Scandalos has remained very high but you will not have seen the best of the talent on Sundays. Day off for many of them. My two favourites there only work 3 nights per week. They are making enough on just those nights not to have to work any harder.

Good to see some of you officinados of villas and the bait and switch escort sites trying out the club scene and reporting back. Long may it continue!

[Andalus Expat]

Whether various venues are or have been open. It's something we've been seeing through the past 18 months. Places reopening then closing again. It's happening all over Spain. Much of it's due to Catch 22. A venue isn't a venue without its girls. Girls won't work in a venue if there's no clients. Clients won't go to a venue without girls. So it's very hard for them to leverage themselves up from being closed. It's entirely possible the Golden Chicken got itself a brace or two of wenches, opened its doors for a while. But the punters didn't flock in, the girls made no money & shoved off & it shut again. They may make another attempt to reopen some time in the future.

Also most of these venues will be companies. With balance sheets. Assets in one column, liabilities in the other. The management of a company is legally obliged to manage the company in the interests of the company, not themselves. They can't just shut up shop & walk away from it. They'd become personally liable for the liabilities of the company. Those liabilities may include taxes outstanding, debt, invoices owing to suppliers, redundancy entitlements for contract employees dismissed & so on. Assets being a puticlub with fixtures & fittings no one's interested in buying & business goodwill vanished with Coronavirus. So you're going to see venues that are just trading down into insolvency. They're not closed yet but they will be.

I'd guess that's what you're seeing at Scandalos. Although I'd say they commenced that process long before Coronavirus arrived. They're pitching at a market doesn't exist. Much the same market as Milady & Babylon at Marbella service. But trying to do it with a two star hotel on an industrial estate on the outskirts of Malaga. It was never going to happen. Couple of years ago I wrote a report on a place called El Themple in Malaga's old city. A whole town house decorated & furnished from basement to roof in impeccable luxury. A line-up of girls made Scandalo's offings look like the tatty circuit putas they are. Prices much the same as Scandalo's current. But you wouldn't mind paying them. Maybe El Themple would have succeeded. Looks like coronapanic's killed it. Pepe tried the number of a girl I believe he saw on Slumi. Not getting an answer on his UK phone we tried it on mine. Came up as the Themple number's in my contacts, but not answered. They've been various strategies in the last year. At one point they were advertising as a massage service & also for masseuses. Who knows?

Estark? Both Pepe & I run businesses. We understand turnover & that there's a minimum turnover you need to start making profit. With much less money around is Estark making that?

[Pepe1976X]

Read Angus (Andaluz Ex Pat) for main breakdown of Sunday nights trip to various CDS Puterias!

As they say in Rio de Janiero " every day I have to kill a Lion! " sums up the WG's experince of putering in Spain presently. They were used to catching Tuna and Salmon and now they are only landing Sprats and Sardines!

Here are a few of my own recollections which are worth raising as several conflict a series of recent contributions. Which I doubted when originally reading but now I can confirm them to be incorrect! L'Coq Dior Golden Rooster seems to be permanently closed and sadly the great Selecta could also be gone too! Closed with little sign of it re-emerging This was a nightclub not a Villa! The putas of the Club scene are getting few punters in general. Very few Brits there and not many high rollers amongst the Spanish or other tourists. Prices can vary from Girl to Girl A very attractive Rom WG living in Madrid at Sala Divas quoted 200 E per hour. Attractive enough and good enough body to be in Scandalos She was so hungry for a deal agreed to rear entry which she obviously detested the idea of!

Scanadols, most girls claimed the weekend was ok for clients but whilst we where there it was less than 50% of previous years Sunday punter levels. Girls were reduced in numbers but there were at least 10 who were 8's and higher. All were Latinas. 250 E's for an hour but were trying to get a 300 E bottle of champagne first. They really misplayed their hand. Delusional figures when you consider their combined drinks and banging price could gain 7 individual 30 min bangs in Privees. Even the Moroccan drug smuggling contingent were not buying upstairs room time just drinking or smoking shisha pipes. I drank Legendario with Water whilst the Wingman drank Coke 32 E for a round. No door entry charge. The current manager from at least 7 years still in charge.

Estark 92 had approx 45 WGs all of a less attractive appearance than Scandalos. The current manager from at least 7 years still in charge. Huge Romanian contingent who were mainly not proactive and sitting / standing around making it hard to approach groupos. Still Casino only open up to 21.00 hrs then Club only open and until 02.00 hrs. Again the congested Casino before 09.00 pm is tough mixing around and doing your Q and A's. Was quoted both 30 E's and 50 E's for a lady drink. High turnover of Putas with lots only recently arriving or shortly about to leave but charging 30 minutes 80 Es. The Spanish Carousel and Merry Go Round is in full effect! Several nice Brailianas but the best of those from Southern Brasil was tough engaging conversation with but very atractive girl. On this basis the E92 business model does not seem to be in any danger but whether Scandalos survives the lack of punters is much less likely.

Was a very quick trip for me but wading through Slumi and Pasion.com should you have the time and able to Hablar and having the time and patience to deal with the usual difficulties of the Apartment / Villa scene would definitely be my current recommendation. Outside of that E92 but don't dive in as hungry Putas will promise you the Earth. Over 20 years of CDS Club experience and it's basically still the same but different. Sure you can still have a great time there whatever your favourite method of sourcing the WGs is!

[Andalus Expat]

Great report!

1. I don't believe the lady drinks have a set rate, you might as well get away with paying 30-40 euros depending on the girl. Or at least that's how it used to be pre COVID.

2. 32 euros sounds expensive for a gin & tonic and a coke. Seems ridiculous (and expensive) if they charge the gt as two separate drinks.

3. I don't believe that 200 euros is enough to get an hour in Scandalo, lmfao!.

The drinks bill was for whatever Pepe had & my coke. (I had the misfortune to be the duty driver.) How that one broke down I couldn't tell you. Any amount seems expensive to me. I'm used to being given drinks, not paying for them. 50 in Scandalos for a girl drink does seem to be the tab. The Colombiana in 92 told me it was the same there. I did get the impression the hourly rate in Scandalos was 200. But it wasn't a question I was going to directly ask. I was fending off sales patter not trying to negotiate.

What I did take away from Scandalos was; with 4 floor staff working the bar, 2 doing front of house & however many they have backstage it wasn't clearing much money. Not for Sunday peak holiday season.

Estark looked a lot busier but I didn't get the impression there was that much money being spent there either. The clientele looked mainly Spanish. 20's to 30's standing in groups of 3 or 4. Maybe some displaced from Scandalos by the high prices. Or maybe on holiday here from inland Spain. Pepe commented on the girls roosting in disinterested groups, apparently having given up schmoozing for victims.

How you'd get on with your negotiating I couldn't tell you. I know the break even for girls on the big club circuit is around 200 euros a day. Room rent. Meals. They're high maintenance. Hair & nails can be 100 a pop 2 or 3 times a week. More if they have extensions in. And some have other habits to support. My new found Colombiana acquaintance had been in 92 a couple of days & was already talking about moving on. The problem girls have is burning their working capital. Not having enough to get them to & into the next venue. You may chance across a girl in panic mode. But you have to see things from the girl's point of view. The rate for a 2 am to 7 am all-nighter may be 750 euros. To her, doing it for 400 is her giving you 350. The service you get may reflect that. It would depend on you. However, a good club girl can fuck her way through 2-3000 blokes a year. The majority of whom are paying for sex because that's the only way they get any. Whatever you might be led to believe, the affinity they feel for any particular client approximates zero. They're just good actresses. What you're paying them for.

[ShooBree]

You asked for it.

A trip out chauffeuring the illustrious Senor Pepe of this parish.

Sala Diva-Malaga Echoed (echoed. Echoed). When you're the only two prospective victims in a sizeable bar. Maybe a dozen girls. Entrada of 10 euros buys your first drink. And our last.

Club Selecta- El Penillo, Torremolinos. Dark, gates firmly closed, maybe permanently.

Scandalos, - Guadalhorce Industrial Estate, Churriana, Malaga. Now free entrance. And the only good deal going. Gin & tonic & a Coca-Cola 32 euros. Drink for a girl 50. Pepe seemed impressed by the line-up. Couple dozen of them. Personally. Being thoroughly recalibrated to the CDS not just de-planed from the Isle of Ugly Women & seeing better talent on the street every day. Not so much. Counted 12 punters in the bar & a couple more arrived while we were there (midnight). Maybe some were upstairs paying 200 hour for the privilege. There were certainly more than a dozen cars outside.

Great report!

1. I don't believe the lady drinks have a set rate, you might as well get away with paying 30-40 euros depending on the girl. Or at least that's how it used to be pre COVID.

2. 32 euros sounds expensive for a gin & tonic and a coke. Seems ridiculous (and expensive) if they charge the gt as two separate drinks.

3. I don't believe that 200 euros is enough to get an hour in Scandalo, lmfao!

4. I'm not interested in paying over 200 euros for an hour but I do wonder if will be able to get an all-nighter for 400-500 euros. In my first visit to Scandalo ever back in 2011 I managed to do an all-nighter back in my hotel with a hot Latina for 300-400 without negotiating the price or even have spoken to her before. Hopefully there aren't too much business for the girls.

[Andalus Expat]

Report back on your next visit please.

You asked for it.

A trip out chauffeuring the illustrious Senor Pepe of this parish.

Sala Diva-Malaga Echoed (echoed. Echoed). When you're the only two prospective victims in a sizeable bar. Maybe a dozen girls. Entrada of 10 euros buys your first drink. And our last.

Club Selecta- El Penillo, Torremolinos. Dark, gates firmly closed, maybe permanently.

Scandalos, - Guadalhorce Industrial Estate, Churriana, Malaga. Now free entrance. And the only good deal going. Gin & tonic & a Coca-Cola 32 euros. Drink for a girl 50. Pepe seemed impressed by the line-up. Couple dozen of them. Personally. Being thoroughly recalibrated to the CDS not just de-planed from the Isle of Ugly Women & seeing better talent on the street every day. Not so much. Counted 12 punters in the bar & a couple more arrived while we were there (midnight). Maybe some were upstairs paying 200 hour for the privilege. There were certainly more than a dozen cars outside.

Estark. Carvajal. Definitely a lot more geezers in there than there were last week. Looked like mostly Spanish. Had a chat with a blonde Colombiana on her first visit to the CDS. If I hadn't been in Estark, I might have fancied her. Managed a conversation that got past the sales patter. Been 5 years working clubs in Valencia, Alicante, Benidorm etc So that may be telling us how things are, that stretch of the coast. And not doing much better here I gather. I gave her the number of an amiga if she fancies a change of employment.

Left headed for 2 AM on a fruitless search for a kebab takeaway. Bit hopeful, that one. Even Gloria's bar-of-last-resort was dark. There just aren't enough people here to make opening that late worthwhile.

We by passed the (correctly unspellable on ISG) Golden Chicken at Torrequebrada on our travels. Dark & apparently shut. Another one gone? So was a villa in Calle Colombia, Torremolinos Pepe recalled from some years ago.

[Qazwsx5]

Quite honestly, I was paying little attention to the girls apart from trying to avoid them. Not why I was there. Bit of research for some girls I know run a villa. They're pitching into a similar market clubs attract. So I was concentrating on numbers & profiles of punters & money flow. How much was going across the bar. How successful the girls were at getting work. Learnt a lot but I'll probably do another visit this weekend for a comparison. Might bring a xica with me. Been done before as Pepe will remember. Let her schmooze the girls.

Report back on your next visit please.

[Jummy1]

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[Andalus Expat]

Quick couple of responses to the above and your visit to E92.
You describe it as Fat City. Whilst undoubtedly there are indeed some heavy girls there, the number of attractive slim ones far outweigh the curvy girls..

You're obviously not completely aux fait with American English, PayForIt. Fat City. In the cream. Nothing to do with the heftiness of the hetaerae. It's gotten well into English- English as well, or the version I hear. Happy Days. The Fonze. Movies. And this is the International Sex Guide.

Quite honestly, I was paying little attention to the girls apart from trying to avoid them. Not why I was there. Bit of research for some girls I know run a villa. They're pitching into a similar market clubs attract. So I was concentrating on numbers & profiles of punters & money flow. How much was going across the bar. How successful the girls were at getting work. Learnt a lot but I'll probably do another visit this weekend for a comparison. Might bring a xica with me. Been done before as Pepe will remember. Let her schmooze the girls.

[Andalus Expat]

True, but sometimes it happens, if the girl likes you and you treat her well. But they usually do not want it as it makes working harder.

About the threesome, I want to try it once. I was offered a few times but rejected, because it was my first session with them and did not want to pay double and be disappointed. The thing is if there are two of them in the room they may not work as hard as they would if they were alone in the room with you, so it is a bit risky. I prefer to try them one by one and then take the ones who give good service upstairs, then again those two must also like each other, so it is a bit complicated.

Thing you need to understand is putas try to be in control of the client. Manage the encounter to their own advantage. Club girls especially, because they want to get you finished with the least hustle & get back down to the bar for another victim's money. You must have experienced it. The girl who's intent on going through her repertoire irrespective of what you wanted to do. With two in the room you're outnumbered. And yes, they will see it as an opportunity to do half the work for the same money. One tactic is to get the client to dump a load early in the time paid for. Then work on him so he's headed towards another at the end hoping he'll spring for more time. It's a win-win-win situation for them. He may call it a day because he can't get it up again & shove off early. Or they can try the "You only paid for one cum" ploy for the same result. Or they go for the extra time bonus. Always remember. For them this is work not sex.

I like two girl sessions in a three way interactive mode. But I'd generally only do it with the girls on outcalls where it's my turf & I'm in control. I see most girls on outcalls, anyway, for that reason. I look at visiting girls as prospecting for the future. And I would generally only do threesomes where I already know the girls. There's been a few occasions when I've had a girl here was hot for some girl-girl fun. We've gone through the ads together looking for likely candidates. Even with her doing the phoning & grilling the prospects, we've had out disappointments. And a word of caution. You have a couple of chicas really getting into each other, you might be finding yourself sidelined at times. Just enjoy the optics.

[ShooBree]

True, but sometimes it happens, if the girl likes you and you treat her well. But they usually do not want it as it makes working harder.

About the threesome, I want to try it once. I was offered a few times but rejected, because it was my first session with them and did not want to pay double and be disappointed. The thing is if there are two of them in the room they may not work as hard as they would if they were alone in the room with you, so it is a bit risky. I prefer to try them one by one and then take the ones who give good service upstairs, then again those two must also like each other, so it is a bit complicated.

Well there's an old saying that all working girls are lesbians and even if all of them are not lesbians I would say that the proportion of lesbians were pretty high in Scandalo before the Corona. I saw a lady customer in the club and asked my "regular" about her and got the answer that the lady customer was a working girl lesbian coming in the club on her night off and was pretty popular among the other WG: s. I also remember how a great girl I used to fuck for free after closure several years ago complained to me about how another WG had started kissing her out of nowhere. I've also seen girls with lipstick on their necks.

So with that background I don't think that it should be too hard to find some real lesbians in the clubs.