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  1. #32799
    Day 12 -.

    Frustrating as fuck day. Three girls flake on me (including the Flasher from yesterday), there's hardly any freelancers around. Response rate on TF and Line is absurdly low, a sure thing from MonkeyPaw has her period. Finally, by about 7:30 pm (an hour and a half to go for curfew), Miss Long and Lean's pimp responds and she arrives in about 15 minutes. I'm tired, semi-drunk and annoyed, so it isn't a great session, anal is off the cards (I sore), but at least I cum in her mouth this time.

    MonkeyPaw reckons it's the Buddhist holidays causing my issues.

    Leaving for BKK about 7/8 pm tonight, so I've got chance (and just enough energy, it's been a long trip), for one last girl. Miss Flasher from yesterday is all apologetic (My boyfriend not leave me alone all day, blah blah blah), sending me pictures and videos. She does a little 'sexy schoolgirl' act that I'm finding intriguing. Very few of the girls have been actually raunchy, just sweet and GFE. Might just be the thing I'm needing. Date re-scheduled for today at 2 pm but I'm doubtful.

    A couple of other TF prospects. And if all else fails, I'm going to hit up a massage shop.

    On the subject of bareback, most of my encounters here have been. (I think I've got through about 10 condoms in a month, most of them with one girl in Phuket, some in massage shops and with a couple of pro pros.) Quite a lot of the girls haven't even brought them up, just let me enter. Memorably, PunkySpinner from the other day specifying 'with condom' in text, then putting me inside her bareback at her own volition. The ones that have mentioned it pretty much took the tiniest nudge 'I not like' to forget about them, even ones that specify it in Line conversation. 75% of the bareback has been CIP / or with CIP not discussed (and therefore assumed to be OK), though on a few instances I have pulled out to cum elsewhere.

    I've tried with a few girls to negotiate bareback upfront and got point blank refusals, so I'm very much in the 'go with the flow' camp. YMMV. I'm here in pretty lean times, the girls are hurting for money.

  2. #32798

    Context matters

    Quote Originally Posted by Bdb013  [View Original Post]
    Been to Mde and Bogota several times, BB service no problem.
    I skimmed your posts, it looks like you use SA and other online options quite a bit. I don't doubt your post, but I think if you were mongering face 2 face, and tried to find BB in Bogota's Santa Fe Clubs, Clubs in Chapinero, and Casa's on both Mde and Bogota you would have a much different result.

    That's what's lost in this discussion- a monger will say something like "well actually I have no problem with getting BBBJ at all in x, y, z location", but the thing they leave out is that its with girls they've known a long time and is something they've cultivated or some other piece of important context. Once this extra info is given, I have no reason to doubt the claim- but if you leave out the supporting details and don't provide the frame, the average guy reading this will be thinking they can just land in SF in Bogota, drop in to Fiebre, Atunes, Venus and expect to receive anything raw with a little bit of convincing- which is just not true.

    I'm only a sample size of one, but in SF Bogota, that method worked about 1/7 times and a substantial propina was expected. On the flipside, half my sessions in Thailand, most of them in Cambodia, and just about all in the Philippines were either BBJ, or BBFS.

  3. #32797
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Did you hit on the Russian lady? I know I would after banging just Thais all the time. A change can boost libido.
    She was pretty clearly in a hurry to get out after coming down the elevator, and by the time I realized who she was, she was gone.

    The main point is that there are still Russian hookers in Pattaya, the question is how to find them.

  4. #32796

    That is my style in Bkk

    Quote Originally Posted by Bdb013  [View Original Post]
    I've been to Pattaya, Chaingmai, BKK, never had much luck with BB service. Also traveled a good bit to other places. The last few years, I've started negotiating BB before the date is set up. I would say at least 80% agreed to it before the date. Been to Mde and Bogota several times, BB service no problem. In Mexico, BB service no problem. Even in Cuba, no problem. I convince them I have had a vasectomy and that I am clean. I have had a few ask for a text to prove no STD's and I agreed to provide, but never had to. They ultimately would tell me that they trust me.

    Headed back to Guadalajara in August. Already have several dates lined up. BB service is already agreed to.
    Interesting that what does not work for you in Thailand but does work for you in so many other places is exactly what has for years worked for me in Bangkok; simply negotiate an upfront agreement for BB before taking or meeting the girl.

    However, nether negotiating upfront, "going with the flow and seeing what happens in the room", offering more money, praying or anything else I am willing to do (I want to fuck atractive, sober women usually in the evening soon after dinnertime, say about 9-10 pm) worked very well for me in Pattaya.

    Different strokes for different folks, as they say.

  5. #32795
    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    ...I saw a Russian hooker in the building today. I hadn't considered they would still be around.
    Did you hit on the Russian lady? I know I would after banging just Thais all the time. A change can boost libido.

  6. #32794
    I started off with a massage, but the lady spent 30 minutes on my prostate and balls. After she left, it felt like I had come. Weird.

    But, I had 2 ladies come over after. Nothing really developed, they didn't click, and so they left a bit early.

    Tomorrow will be pretty much the same, which is probably good for me, I could use a rest. I don't expect much until Wednesday when I have 2 ladies come who are bi-curious, for real.

    Meanwhile, new cases are approaching 1,000 for Chonburi so I don't know how much longer I can buy alcohol.

  7. #32793
    Quote Originally Posted by Lefeu  [View Original Post]
    First, let me start by saying that I have taken 25+ trips to Colombia since 2013, mostly to Medellin plus a few trips to Cartagena. I also speak decent Spanish. In addition, I met a few expats there over the years, and received quite a few hints and intel on particular girls. I view this as part of "work at it".

    Over the years, I developed a stable of girls among the ones that I liked. I made it clear to them of my preference for bb, but I never insisted on it. Eventually, after a few sessions all of them agreed to it, except one. I now have about 8 girls in my harem, and 7 out of 8 are bb with no condition. Some of them at first requested cov, but after a few sessions they started to believe my story about my vasectomy, which I did many years ago. In other words, I managed to develop trust with the girls. It also helps that I am fairly generous with tips.

    I use pretty much the same methods in SEA, except that I only travel there once a year, due to the long travel duration and the changes in time zones. I never attempted to develop a stable in SEA because I cannot get there often enough. I am still pleased with my bb results there.
    I've been to Pattaya, Chaingmai, BKK, never had much luck with BB service. Also traveled a good bit to other places. The last few years, I've started negotiating BB before the date is set up. I would say at least 80% agreed to it before the date. Been to Mde and Bogota several times, BB service no problem. In Mexico, BB service no problem. Even in Cuba, no problem. I convince them I have had a vasectomy and that I am clean. I have had a few ask for a text to prove no STD's and I agreed to provide, but never had to. They ultimately would tell me that they trust me.

    Headed back to Guadalajara in August. Already have several dates lined up. BB service is already agreed to.

  8. #32792
    Slow day yesterday. I had a massage lady come over for massage plus fuck in the morning.

    Then 2 bargirls came over in the afternoon. After pestering me for days to come over, they showed up late, and then announced they had to leave early. One kept checking her cellphone. So, I just wasn't in the mood to deal with them, and dispatched them early. I will put them at the bottom of the queue.

    Today, I have a massage lady who gives me a long prostate massage, and then two bargirls. But one is a seasoned pro with many customers, so she is pretty much not going to do anything. My experience is that bargirls with customers or Thai boyfriends aren't that much fun. So they go on the bottom of the queue. But, there are only 7 days in the week, and the queue is long.

    I saw a Russian hooker in the building today. I hadn't considered they would still be around.

  9. #32791

    Will be glad to

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    I have heard it both ways from seasoned mongers who have been in and are currently in Columbia.

    Perhaps it would be helpful if Lefeu elaborated on what he means by "work at it" and "put in some effort" in order to get BBFS+CIP with P4P girls there. I would be interested too, since I have not mongered in Columbia yet.

    It might very well apply to all destinations, including Thailand.
    First, let me start by saying that I have taken 25+ trips to Colombia since 2013, mostly to Medellin plus a few trips to Cartagena. I also speak decent Spanish. In addition, I met a few expats there over the years, and received quite a few hints and intel on particular girls. I view this as part of "work at it".

    Over the years, I developed a stable of girls among the ones that I liked. I made it clear to them of my preference for bb, but I never insisted on it. Eventually, after a few sessions all of them agreed to it, except one. I now have about 8 girls in my harem, and 7 out of 8 are bb with no condition. Some of them at first requested cov, but after a few sessions they started to believe my story about my vasectomy, which I did many years ago. In other words, I managed to develop trust with the girls. It also helps that I am fairly generous with tips.

    I use pretty much the same methods in SEA, except that I only travel there once a year, due to the long travel duration and the changes in time zones. I never attempted to develop a stable in SEA because I cannot get there often enough. I am still pleased with my bb results there.

  10. #32790
    Quote Originally Posted by JJanni  [View Original Post]
    Shotgun message girls on Line and ThaiFriendly. These girls all sleep late and I'm not getting many replies, or if I am they're all talking about coming in the afternoon. Nope, I WANT NOW. I become less picky and just tell the first girl that says '30 minutes' to come over. She's only been on TF for 10 days, her profile says 18. Stats are 5'1, 95 lbs. I got her Line but screened her out because she wouldn't videochat, couldn't get any pictures out of her. And the ones on her TF profile and Line were just fully clothed shots. Pretty enough though.

    She arrives promptly within 30 minutes and I meet her in the lobby. Wearing a little croptop and some short shorts. From what I can see, I'm impressed! Get her up to the room, get the face mask off and she's cute. And has braces. She's shy, very smiley and doesn't speak much English. Ask to see her ID and she turned 18 two months ago. A teeny-bit of acne. But that's what your get for fucking teenagers.

    Ok, this worked out very well for a last minute 'See who I can get over right now' thing. It's a curious phenomenon, but I've noticed that girls who's pictures I'm really into turn out to be a disappointment. And girl's who have very few pictures / pictures I'm not that into turn out to be pleasant surprise when they turn up.
    Day 11.

    Invited this girl over again. (Same picture attached. I really struggle to 'bring myself out of the moment' and take pictures. And she's that shy she'd probably Sahara desert on me).

    She arrives this time dressed in a really cute summer dress with some incongruously sexy leopard skin boyshorts underneath. A little flirting and talking on the couch (she barely speaks a word of English, but just jabbers away cutely.) Drag her into the shower for some soapy fun. She's that shy she's giggling away while I soap up and wash her down. After, we both brush our teeth and she can't stop giggling every time we make eye contact in the mirror.

    On to the bed, divest her of her towel, get to some really sweet DFK and teasing her. Manage to go down on her this time, but she's just giggly. Some more DFK and I break out the lube (she's tiny and tight, she needs it.) Spend some time fingering her and get her warmed up. She spends ages examining the lube (just a big tube of Standard KY), like she's never seen it before. She definitely hasn't been in the game long. I would hope, given her age.

    Roll on top for some more kissing, rubbing against her. She says, 'Condom. ' I say, 'We not last time. Can if want?' She doesn't say anything, so I just enter her. Slow screw in missionary, then I use my arm to bend her leg up. Lots of DFK and neck nibblin'. I can feel myself cumming too quickly, so I pull her on top of me for cowgirl. She seems to be getting into it. She's making the right noises, clenching around me and wet, really bouncing on me.

    I need another interlude, so I push her back down on her back again. Legs on my shoulders / biceps and pound away again. Real deep, grindy thrusts which she seems to like, gets all flushed. Don't last long. And in a moment of 'weakness' (she was slightly annoyed at me last time with a CIP finish) I pull out and jizz on her flat little belly. Somehow, I feel 'safer' with a CIP finish. At least the girl will go off and get Plan be. Do these girls not know you can still get pregnant from precum?

    After, she's all smiley and giggly again and we have a cum-fight. She scoops some on her fingertip and tries to put it in my mouth. So I retaliate by pinning her hands down and smearing some on her mouth while she giggles and screams. Weirdly cute.

    After, showers and dress. We sit on the couch while she jabbers away. She's showing me her line conversations with guys who are offering to pay her twice what I have that she hasn't responded to, Yanks and Brits not in Thailand declaring their undying love etc.

    She stayed maybe two hours this time (an hour of bedroom activities, an hour of just jabbering away) then leaves happy with the 1200 thb I give her.

    I haven't really left the condo today, so I'm going to head out for a walk in a little while. Probably return, alone. Tomorrow I have my pre-flight Covid test at the International Hospital (fly early hours on the 28th.).

    19 year old spinner who's pictures I really like the look of and have been bombarding for a response finally responded and gave me her line while I was waiting for the 18 year old cutie to show up. She's very 'pro / porno' in conversation, wanting to come now, saying she needs dick etc. She videocalls me unprompted and she looks like her pictures, lying on her bed in a night t-shirt (seriously, why can't these girls get out of bed?) English is very good, we chat a bit, she asks if I'm alone. Yes. Then she flashes me, lifting up the t-shirt so I can see her entire body. Very, very nice.

    In a message after, she calls me 'Handsome British boy. ' Pretty much every other girl here has guessed I'm a Yank.

    I put her off with some excuse about going to eat and drink with my friend who is going back to the UK tomorrow. Which turns out to be the right call. Inevitably, MonkeyPaw knows her and has fucked her. First time GFE and good, second time 'pro' when she realises you're not going to girlfriend her up.

    Have a date set tomorrow for 1 pm. Clueless newbie Brit (shouldn't be hard) it is, if she shows up. Kind of intrigued by how 'raunchy' she is. If that carries on through to the bedroom, should be a good time.

    Message from Cutie With A Booty of Phuket fame late last night. She sent something, unsent it. I responded with a smilie, then I got 'the story. ' Daughter in the hospital ICU with a serious chest infection, she wants to go home to Buriram to see her. I tell her some options. Nok Air is flying Phuket to Pattaya and from Pattaya to other locations in a couple of days, in a couple of the Facebook Phuket groups I follow, there's Sandboxers organising group taxis to BKK etc. She's responding 'can't wait, need to go now. ' No request for money has been forthcoming and she's 'backed off' a little today, saying her condition is improving.

    I'll be a little sad if I do get a money request (I already have from Punky Tattooed Chick for rent money) as I really liked her. But then, I suppose that's 'the game. ' We fuck them for pocket money and then leave and forget them (I have every intention of deleting Line and my fake Facebook when I leave), they know this and try to milk a little more out of us.
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  11. #32789
    Quote Originally Posted by ZebraStripes81  [View Original Post]
    Respectfully, anyone who has been to Bogota or Medellin (not including Brazil here) circa 2021 would not be saying with a straight face that its "just as easy" to get BBFS / BBBJ / CIM there as in Pattaya or SEA generally. This is what is often referred to as "Fake News. " I don't care if your penis is 24 carat solid gold- this is just not true my brother. Categorically, empirically, literally, figuratively.

    I will maintain: to get the "fun stuff" in SEA does not require the same amount of work. I guess we will have to agree to disagree on that one my dude.
    I have heard it both ways from seasoned mongers who have been in and are currently in Columbia.

    Perhaps it would be helpful if Lefeu elaborated on what he means by "work at it" and "put in some effort" in order to get BBFS+CIP with P4P girls there. I would be interested too, since I have not mongered in Columbia yet.

    It might very well apply to all destinations, including Thailand.

  12. #32788
    As I have a large, but regular, rotation of ladies, as time goes by I am finding which ladies go together the best.

    I am also finding out that some ladies use the work for an excuse to explore the other lady. "I mao, I never do before" is what they say. But, then, they come back and do it again. There may be some truth to that, since they aren't very good at pleasing the other lady. I have seen it done by real lezzies, but these are newbies.

    I heard from other ladies that one lady got drunk at a party and made a pass at another lady (in front of her boyfriend), and so I am pairing them up. Cheap entertainment for me.

  13. #32787
    Day 10, Part Two:

    PunkySpinner was supposed to be coming over all day (the Wilderbeast was a 'fallback' option'. She kept changing the time, so eventually I gave up. As much as I want to fuck her again, I'm not putting up with that.

    I had TF prospects I probably could have got over, but a SW is on my mongering bucket list. I headed out and made some laps of the areas the freelancers hang out. Near TreeTown and the beach. It had been raining off and on all day, still raining. So there were limited options.

    Eventually spotted one girl I liked the look of. Facially, very pretty and quite full-figured. Big boobs, narrow waist and flat stomach, wide hips and a big booty. She was very sweet. Quick discussion, then we were off to make the short walk back to my condo.

    In the condo, I was treated to some very good, very passionate DFK. Then it was off to the shower. Not a spinner by any stretch of the imagination, but she was curvy and in shape. And those boobs were well done, I only realised they were fake when I got my hands on them. Showered together and she had a delightful way of soaping her body up and then sliding against mine. Never had a nuru / oil massage, but I imagine the sensations are similar.

    Dried off, onto the bed for some DFK while we played with eachother. Absolutely stellar BBBJ with long stretches of deepthroat. Some DATY followed. Her pussy was pretty, tasty and very, very freshly shaved. She got quite wet.

    Eventually, she pulled me up for some more kissing and then the inevitable 'Condom?' 'Not like. ' '. Cum here,' she says while patting her belly. If you insist.

    Enter in missionary, she's tight and wet. Slow, sensual screw while we kiss, eventually getting faster. Love those naughty 'SLAP SLAP SLAP' sounds you get when you're really fucking a girl. With the way she's hanging on to my arse and fucking her hips up against me, found it pretty difficult to honour her request not to cum inside. Manage it, shoot all over her belly.

    Cleanup, showers, it's about 8:40. Almost curfew. I give her the agreed upon 1000 thb plus 100 thb 'for taxi. ' 'Close, I walk. ' (It's about a five minute walk from where I picked her up to my condo.).

    'Where?

    'Back to the beach. '.

    'It's almost curfew!

    'I pick up my bike. '.

    'If you have a bike, why did we walk here?

    'Sorry, next time. '.

    Got her line (though I'm unlikely to repeat) and she was off.

    Two girls with fake boobs in one day, one 1000000% better than the other.

  14. #32786
    I started off the day with a ST from a lady who helped clean my place. Actually, it was a pretty good fuck, I will have her back.

    Then, two more ladies came to drink. They were very shy, but after a few drinks, they got closer and closer. I don't tell the ladies what to do, I prefer them to do what they want, and they wanted to drink, rub my cock, take off their clothes, and take turns with a BJ. As is usual, I was double teamed, licking the pussy of one while the other gave me a BJ. They apparently were not shy at all.

  15. #32785
    Day 9, Part Two:

    Hooked up with MonkeyPaw again, wandered around checking out some stuff. Quite a lot of Freelancers (relatively speaking) out on Beach Road. After MP heads home, I approach a couple and. One that looked decent and young from afar turned out to be old and chubby, the other turned out to be a Ladyboy.

    I'm too polite, so I just get their lines anyway and leave.

    Tired, I just turn in.

    Day 10, Part One:

    Spend the morning chatting up some new prospects, have PunkySpinner from yesterday coming at lunchtime. And she flakes, wants to come at 1600 instead.

    My dander is up, so it's again back to my typical lack of forward planning and seeing who I can get over quick. Settle on a 21 year old blonde spinner with fake boobs, who MP said wasn't great, but not bad. I get bad feelings about her from the start of the line conversation. Too. Pro. States her price, terms and conditions, wants me to take a picture from my balcony to prove I'm actually here.

    She arrives and facially, she's ok. Not a stunner. In the room, she showers and it's all so. Mechanical, 'pro. '. She comes out of the shower in a towel, "You have KY?" I'm thinking at this stage I might be able to get some life out of her, so I say 'We might not need. ' Get her on the bed, get the towel off AND WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK.

    Stubble on her belly. And actual fucking tufts of hair on her arsehole. I have less hair on my arse. I'm not going anywhere near that with my fingers, let alone my fucking tongue.

    Lie back and let her get to work with her mouth. A decent, but not deep BBBJ. After sub-five minutes, "You have condom?" I'm not putting my dick anywhere near that, either. "Just blowjob, I lazy. " She goes back to work while I just play with those firm boltons of hers. Another five minutes, "You not cum?

    I could if she carried on for a bit, with some effort, closing my eyes and thinking about porn. But there's other fish in the sea and I'm not wasting energy. "Ok, I drink too much, not cum. It's ok, you can go. " (Haven't had a drop in two days).

    Had agreed 1200 thb, gave her 1000 thb to avoid the drama. Probably should have just sent her off with taxi money, but I take the path of least resistance.

    I'm going to take another shower.

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