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  1. #14334
    Quote Originally Posted by AggieDad1  [View Original Post]
    At least the vaccine helps improve your chances of surviving covid, if you get it.
    Yes. From another article today regarding the same Massachusetts spike.

    https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news...125324207.html

    Though effectiveness varies by vaccine brand, most are quite potent against infection and exceptionally so at preventing the kind of infection that causes serious illness. Of the 833 people in the Provincetown cluster as of Wednesday, only seven had been hospitalized. And zero had died.

    SNIP.

    Of those 346 people with breakthrough infections, 79 percent reported symptoms, but those tended to be mild, such as cough or headache. Nearly everyone recovered at home. Of the few who had to go to the hospital, several had underlying conditions.

    Of 800 infected, only 7 hospitalized and no deaths. That's great and a vax tribute. But if 79% of vaxxed breakthrough infections reported symptoms, that means 21% are asymptomatic. We have both vaccinated and unvaccinated, some of each showing symptoms and others with no symptoms.

    Previously on this board there was discussion of opening up countries to vaxxed travelers. This information flies in the face of that. Can you risk allowing in asymptomatic, infectious vacationers?

  2. #14333

    Oh shit

    Quote Originally Posted by WestCoast1  [View Original Post]
    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/cd...?siteid=yhoof2

    As per previous discussion of vaccines and covid, this one on breakthrough infections, showing large numbers of fully vaxxed having high viral loads of covid. From the article:

    A federal investigation into a COVID-19 outbreak earlier this month in a Massachusetts county thats home to Cape Cod found that 74% of the 469 infections were among vaccinated people, a finding that raises questions about the prevalence of breakthrough infections.

    SNIP.

    274, or 79%, of the fully vaccinated people who tested positive for the virus were symptomatic.

    301, or 87%, of the people who had been vaccinated and tested positive were men; their median age was 42.

    Earlier this week, the CDC director, Dr. Rochelle Walensky, also said that new data had revealed that people who are vaccinated and test positive for the virus can carry the same viral load as people who are unvaccinated and test positive for the virus. This research found that cycle threshold (Ct) values in samples from 127 fully vaccinated people and 84 unvaccinated people were similar.

    High viral loads suggest an increased risk of transmission and raised concern that, unlike with other variants, vaccinated people infected with Delta can transmit the virus, Walensky said in a separate statement on Friday. This finding is concerning and was a pivotal discovery leading to CDCs updated mask recommendation.

    Back in May, the CDC said that there had been fewer than 10,000 breakthrough cases among the 95 million or so Americans who were fully vaccinated at that time. However, data out of Los Angeles County has found that in June one-fifth of all new cases are breakthrough infections among the vaccinated.
    At least the vaccine helps improve your chances of surviving covid, if you get it. At this point I would like to know who is better protected? Those who have had the vaccine, people who have had covid and recovered, or people who have had both. I hate that government response is to want to put everyone in masks. My oldest daughter was a transplant patient so any family that wanted to visit her right after the surgery had to be trained in hospital PPE. I also was a trained HAZMAT first responder. The masks only provide protection for a max of 4 hours before they actually can be a hazard to the wearer. Don't get me started on how people handle the masks when they take them off.

  3. #14332
    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/cd...?siteid=yhoof2

    As per previous discussion of vaccines and covid, this one on breakthrough infections, showing large numbers of fully vaxxed having high viral loads of covid. From the article:

    A federal investigation into a COVID-19 outbreak earlier this month in a Massachusetts county thats home to Cape Cod found that 74% of the 469 infections were among vaccinated people, a finding that raises questions about the prevalence of breakthrough infections.

    SNIP.

    274, or 79%, of the fully vaccinated people who tested positive for the virus were symptomatic.

    301, or 87%, of the people who had been vaccinated and tested positive were men; their median age was 42.

    Earlier this week, the CDC director, Dr. Rochelle Walensky, also said that new data had revealed that people who are vaccinated and test positive for the virus can carry the same viral load as people who are unvaccinated and test positive for the virus. This research found that cycle threshold (Ct) values in samples from 127 fully vaccinated people and 84 unvaccinated people were similar.

    High viral loads suggest an increased risk of transmission and raised concern that, unlike with other variants, vaccinated people infected with Delta can transmit the virus, Walensky said in a separate statement on Friday. This finding is concerning and was a pivotal discovery leading to CDCs updated mask recommendation.

    Back in May, the CDC said that there had been fewer than 10,000 breakthrough cases among the 95 million or so Americans who were fully vaccinated at that time. However, data out of Los Angeles County has found that in June one-fifth of all new cases are breakthrough infections among the vaccinated.

  4. #14331

    Algerian Judo

    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    Without being cynical, as always, the rules are only for the common people. World wide, people have used money, fame or connections to skirt the "rules". Many celebrities, sports stars and the wealthy have been able to travel or return home despite quarantines, flight restrictions and visa limits.

    Nothing unusual here.

    Daily Mail: Covid: Scott Morrison is stumped by Caitlin Jenner quarantine question.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9812359/Covid-Scott-Morrison-stumped-Caitlin-Jenner-quarantine-question.html
    Good link. The Algerian who wouldn't fight the Israeli was "sent home". There must be special VIP passes but Tokyo to Algeria would be hard right now. Australia is tighter than a koala's bum. But not for all, it seems.

  5. #14330
    Quote Originally Posted by PedroMorales  [View Original Post]
    My question is: how did all three get home as international travel is severely constricted.
    Without being cynical, as always, the rules are only for the common people. World wide, people have used money, fame or connections to skirt the "rules". Many celebrities, sports stars and the wealthy have been able to travel or return home despite quarantines, flight restrictions and visa limits.

    Nothing unusual here.

    Daily Mail: Covid: Scott Morrison is stumped by Caitlin Jenner quarantine question.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9812359/Covid-Scott-Morrison-stumped-Caitlin-Jenner-quarantine-question.html

  6. #14329
    Quote Originally Posted by PedroMorales  [View Original Post]
    Some of the best experiences ast the Tokyo Olympics were the heroic women who won gold for the Philippines (weight lifting), Thailand (taekwondo) and India (silver in weight lifting). All three deservedly got heroes welcome on their return home, with the Pinay, a sergeants in the Air Force, clocking up over $1 million and counting. My question is: how did all three get home as international travel is severely constricted.
    Probably by airplane from Tokyo NRT or HND.

    Otherwise they will wait for their respective rowing team for transport.

  7. #14328
    Quote Originally Posted by PedroMorales  [View Original Post]
    Nesthy Petecio is in the medals' stakes, having made the semi final of the women's featherweight boxing. She is the first Pinay to win a medal at boxing. The last time a Pinoy boxer won a a medal was 1996 and the last time the Philippines won multiple medals was at the 1932 LA Olympics, when some of the guys here were in their prime. (bronzes in boxing, high jumping and swimming).

    As Petecio is fancied to go further, the question is what effects this will have on the Philippines and Duterte's curfews? Petecio is from Davao del Sur so Duterte will want to milk it.

    I would expect the place to go bananas and the lock downs to be ignored.
    Manila, Cebu and CDO are all going into the most stringent quarantine conditions on 1 August, and I don't think the police are going to take any crap about ignoring curfew. My guess is that any outbursts of pride will largely be confined to online commentary, as was the case with the local weightlifter who just won the country's first gold medal.

    GE.

  8. #14327

    More Good News

    Nesthy Petecio is in the medals' stakes, having made the semi final of the women's featherweight boxing. She is the first Pinay to win a medal at boxing. The last time a Pinoy boxer won a a medal was 1996 and the last time the Philippines won multiple medals was at the 1932 LA Olympics, when some of the guys here were in their prime. (bronzes in boxing, high jumping and swimming).

    As Petecio is fancied to go further, the question is what effects this will have on the Philippines and Duterte's curfews? Petecio is from Davao del Sur so Duterte will want to milk it.

    I would expect the place to go bananas and the lock downs to be ignored.

  9. #14326

    Home are the Heroes: How Come?

    Some of the best experiences ast the Tokyo Olympics were the heroic women who won gold for the Philippines (weight lifting), Thailand (taekwondo) and India (silver in weight lifting). All three deservedly got heroes welcome on their return home, with the Pinay, a sergeants in the Air Force, clocking up over $1 million and counting. My question is: how did all three get home as international travel is severely constricted.

  10. #14325
    Quote Originally Posted by BrizLad  [View Original Post]
    Just reading through her wiki page "Hidilyn Diaz is the fifth of six children. Her father was a tricycle driver before becoming a farmer and a fisherman. "
    Small town girl makes good. No, she makes great. Hi-five and go team Diaz.

    Picture. 659 K jabs in one day. Things are looking up. Except that guy, the patient getting jabbed. Why does he look oddly like. . . Me?
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails jab.jpg‎  

  11. #14324
    Quote Originally Posted by PedroMorales  [View Original Post]
    Congratulations to Weightlifter Hidilyn Diaz who has won a gold medal at the current Tokyo Olympics.
    Just reading through her wiki page "Hidilyn Diaz is the fifth of six children. Her father was a tricycle driver before becoming a farmer and a fisherman. ".

    Puts a new context to 55 kg spinner.

  12. #14323
    Quote Originally Posted by PedroMorales  [View Original Post]
    Congratulations to Weightlifter Hidilyn Diaz who has won a gold medal at the current Tokyo Olympics. It is the first gold ever for the Philippines. When she won silver in Rio, she was the first Pinay ever to win a medal. It is good to see Pinays shine. They deserve a lot more than vagina obsessed sickos. Congrats so far to Japan too.

    Medal wise, well done Japan, China, Russia, Hungary, Tunisia, Iran, Philippines, Thailand, Indonesia (Colombia, Ivory Coast, Mexico.
    Colombia has a hot Archer chick.

  13. #14322

    Congratulations

    Congratulations to Weightlifter Hidilyn Diaz who has won a gold medal at the current Tokyo Olympics. It is the first gold ever for the Philippines. When she won silver in Rio, she was the first Pinay ever to win a medal. It is good to see Pinays shine. They deserve a lot more than vagina obsessed sickos. Congrats so far to Japan too.

    Medal wise, well done Japan, China, Russia, Hungary, Tunisia, Iran, Philippines, Thailand, Indonesia (Colombia, Ivory Coast, Mexico.

  14. #14321
    Quote Originally Posted by Mdemde  [View Original Post]
    Presumably this 27 million figure is for the total number of vaccine shots that have been delivered here to date - if so, allowing for the number of doses that have been used (see below), that would mean the current stock is about 10.7 million doses?
    Sounds about right.

    From the DOH FB account. Some more DOH graphics from the past few days. 17 million jabs: 11 million first does, 6 million both doses.

    Averaging 300 k doses per day (7-day average). Average number of daily reporting active vax sites: 1355 (last 7 days).

    DOH priority categories: A1 (Front liner / Health workers), A2 (Senior citizens), A3 (Co-morbidity), A4 (Front liner / Essential Sectors), A5 (Indigent).

    The other graphic is the number of reported variant cases. Currently 119 detected Delta variant.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails share.jpg‎   share2.jpg‎  

  15. #14320

    Vaccine shots

    Quote Originally Posted by WestCoast1  [View Original Post]
    Insight from a pic. Approximately 27 million jabs in Phils now.
    Presumably this 27 million figure is for the total number of vaccine shots that have been delivered here to date - if so, allowing for the number of doses that have been used (see below), that would mean the current stock is about 10.7 million doses?

    As for the actual numbers that have been jabbed, according to this report today (link below), 5. 5 million have been jabbed twice ie have been fully vaccinated, and a further 10.8 million have received their first jab.

    START.

    MANILA Over 5. 5 million Filipinos have been fully vaccinated against COVID-19, with total doses administered topping 16.4 million, a government task force said on Saturday.

    In a statement, the National Task Force (NTF) Against COVID-19 said 10,866,238 have received their first jab against the disease, while 5,560,029 are fully immunized, accounting for 9. 58 percent of the minimum 58 million government target by yearend. <END.

    https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/07/24/...ate-july242021

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