FKK Oase - Burgholzhausen

[Lucky Nuts]

For covid vetting to make sense, vaccine passes get checked against your ID and so should antigenic tests, otherwise you could borrow anyone's covid certificate to get in. Why would they go to the trouble of checking your address? As to keeping a record for more than a few days, I'm sure it is very illegal (Datenschutz = data protection, big thing in Germany).

I don't see any business in Germany carrying out extortion on the basis of something that is 100% legal.

Correct that upon entry you need to provide ID that matches your proof of vaccination or negative test.

Just to be clear "the clipboard" for contact tracing is a separate step in the check-in process that doesn't require ID.

[XXL]

Yep, all the clubs even have video cameras all around. If you're afraid of extortion, there's already a vulnerability there.

For covid vetting to make sense, vaccine passes get checked against your ID and so should antigenic tests, otherwise you could borrow anyone's covid certificate to get in. Why would they go to the trouble of checking your address? As to keeping a record for more than a few days, I'm sure it is very illegal (Datenschutz = data protection, big thing in Germany).

I don't see any business in Germany carrying out extortion on the basis of something that is 100% legal.

[Maxime]

If you are mongering, internationally or not, and are concerned about a wife / SO / family finding out, you shouldn't be mongering. Even local, unless you aren't covering your tracks with a burner phone number, it will eventually come back to you.

Even before I got into the scene it was a no brainer to use a burner cell phone.

Every time I've had to write down a name and contact, I always write Bob Joe and give them my burner number, which is just under WIRELESS CALLER. So they can contact me if something happens, but they can't do much else.

Indeed, that's the way to do it. So as long as the club do NOT check and register your ID (with real name and address) all will be ok. But that is currently the problem: several clubs DO register this to comply with C19 rules!

[Jmioffe]

If you are mongering, internationally or not, and are concerned about a wife / SO / family finding out, you shouldn't be mongering. Even local, unless you aren't covering your tracks with a burner phone number, it will eventually come back to you.

Even before I got into the scene it was a no brainer to use a burner cell phone.

Every time I've had to write down a name and contact, I always write Bob Joe and give them my burner number, which is just under WIRELESS CALLER. So they can contact me if something happens, but they can't do much else.

Yep, all the clubs even have video cameras all around. If you're afraid of extortion, there's already a vulnerability there.

[Tvataham274]

It would not be the first time a club (owner) sees opportunity in another business model by using customers (real) data in an inappropriate matter (especially for married mongers, blackmail is just around the corner). Even with a decent owner, others have easily access to this data if you see all the paperwork flying around. And remember the even more easy way in CH: license plates (outside Globe) were noted, and people get letters at their home address after club visit (since in CH it is relatively easy to match license plate with owner data).

So. Better not have your personal data spread too much in this crazy world!

If you are mongering, internationally or not, and are concerned about a wife / SO / family finding out, you shouldn't be mongering. Even local, unless you aren't covering your tracks with a burner phone number, it will eventually come back to you.

Even before I got into the scene it was a no brainer to use a burner cell phone.

Every time I've had to write down a name and contact, I always write Bob Joe and give them my burner number, which is just under WIRELESS CALLER. So they can contact me if something happens, but they can't do much else.

[Sirioja]

It would not be the first time a club (owner) sees opportunity in another business model by using customers (real) data in an inappropriate matter (especially for married mongers, blackmail is just around the corner). Even with a decent owner, others have easily access to this data if you see all the paperwork flying around. And remember the even more easy way in CH: license plates (outside Globe) were noted, and people get letters at their home address after club visit (since in CH it is relatively easy to match license plate with owner data).

So. Better not have your personal data spread too much in this crazy world!

So many Globe visits and elsewhere in Switzerland, Germany, Austria, NL when YY and Spain, and was never blackmailed by other than a obsessed jealous French follower, not my obsessed French follower here, but never by any brothel, nor any girl when many have my phone. Guys are the worst for me in this business. Clubs just follow rules to remain open.

[JohnNovice]

It would not be the first time a club (owner) sees opportunity in another business model by using customers (real) data in an inappropriate matter (especially for married mongers, blackmail is just around the corner). Even with a decent owner, others have easily access to this data if you see all the paperwork flying around. And remember the even more easy way in CH: license plates (outside Globe) were noted, and people get letters at their home address after club visit (since in CH it is relatively easy to match license plate with owner data).

So. Better not have your personal data spread too much in this crazy world!

Thank you LuckyNuts for answering a simple question and not getting in to why and why nots But I can post you a lot of privacy issues on data (volumes) but here is one (even metadata can do wonders)!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/relig...esign-burrill/

Maybe I am an international criminal with a few wives!

[Maxime]

What do you have to worry about? Unless you're an international criminal there is nothing wrong. It is for contact tracing. If someone comes down with covid it is for them to let you know. Save a life and don't spread the virus. What does knowing the police chief have to do with anything?

It would not be the first time a club (owner) sees opportunity in another business model by using customers (real) data in an inappropriate matter (especially for married mongers, blackmail is just around the corner). Even with a decent owner, others have easily access to this data if you see all the paperwork flying around. And remember the even more easy way in CH: license plates (outside Globe) were noted, and people get letters at their home address after club visit (since in CH it is relatively easy to match license plate with owner data).

So. Better not have your personal data spread too much in this crazy world!

[Lucky Nuts]

I know this has been partially answered. But if you get a rapid covid test for 5 Euros at the front door for entrance. Do they check ID and record name and contact information? Or you just enter your name and number on a piece of paper and no ID is checked? Thank you gents for your help. Also, how many girls are there now that they have been open for a month?

I wouldn't let the contact info requirement deter you from visiting. At Sharks you can write any name and phone number you want on the clipboard. I think (but not positive) at Oase it was the same. Write whatever you want. Finca in Dierdorf seemed a little more organized and official about things but I'm sure you could fake it if you want. Or just don't enter if they want real info.

Plenty of girls sitting around available at all the clubs. They are asking higher prices so there is less demand.

[Tvataham274]

Thank you for giving me that input. But I know the police chief Would you now answer the rest of my questions.

What do you have to worry about? Unless you're an international criminal there is nothing wrong. It is for contact tracing. If someone comes down with covid it is for them to let you know. Save a life and don't spread the virus. What does knowing the police chief have to do with anything?

[Sirioja]

I know this has been partially answered. But if you get a rapid covid test for 5 Euros at the front door for entrance. Do they check ID and record name and contact information? Or you just enter your name and number on a piece of paper and no ID is checked? Thank you gents for your help. Also, how many girls are there now that they have been open for a month?

No ID check when showing negative test, at least for me, but girl on desk knows me. A real blond beauty, on day, at lounge bar. Oase is a very beautiful club, with a beautiful swimming pool, beautiful garden, big jacuzzi, I even ate good tasty meat, but worth more to relax and recover than for girls now there, even still Marina / Alina now fake blond when she was prettier light brown, and couldn't notice Anastasia on this Thursday evening, when used to be one of the best casting day. Almost no more girls at 2 am when no business, but only few Balkanians. Closing club at 3. 30 am rather than 5 am before. I was asked when leaving and answered real fall for girls level and 0 room for me, guy seemed sad from my answer, but just have to look at so slow, pathetic business. Really sad but real fact. Good time with moody yellow little tiger is over. Where is Ina little sister?

[JohnNovice]

Thank you for giving me that input. But I know the police chief Would you now answer the rest of my questions.

[ExpatLover]

I know this has been partially answered. But if you get a rapid covid test for 5 Euros at the front door for entrance. Do they check ID and record name and contact information? Or you just enter your name and number on a piece of paper and no ID is checked? Thank you gents for your help. Also, how many girls are there now that they have been open for a month?

Why are you so afraid about giving your data, if there is a police raid they will take everything. Are you another married guy fucking prostitutes?

[Mr Ho]

I'll stick to taking a taxi. Easy, quick, inexpensive, and safe. Desperate people find out that mongers loaded with cash are walking to Oase, and it could turn into a lucrative "business" for them.

Yes, in Oase or in any FKK, I heard that " no money! No honey! " LOL!

[ExpatLover]

On my very first visit to Sharks many years ago I took the train to Darmstadt Nord and decided to walk to the club. I somehow mixed up the direction and took a wrong turn. I ended up walking and walking. Back then I did not use cell phone abroad. To make matters worse it was a public holiday with no one walking to ask directions. The only thing I possibly could have done was to go up to a residence knock on the door and ask for directions to Sharks, LOL. I walked around for hours which included going back to the train station and waiting alone for a train, for over an hour, which never arrived. I did eventually find the club thanks to coming across a Sharks sign directing to the club. I had loads of cash with me but never felt unsafe. I would feel uneasy walking through a field though.

Regarding taking a taxi to the train station from Oase. I know that taxi drivers have families to feed and need to make a viable living but I hate to be scammed. It is very rare that I have an altercation with a taxi driver but I did have one once on a journey back to the station from Oase. I refused to pay him what he requested. He tried to get other drivers involved and I stated my case to them but they remained non committal. In the end I paid him the amount I had always given drivers for that route. Fortunately, the Oase shuttle was instituted just around that time. It has nothing to do with the money itself but about not having somebody think that he has taken advantage of me.

Those driver are usually from India or Sri Lanka, they have a pricelist (it is compulsory) but they will not show it if you don t speak German.