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08-10-21 20:32 #21771
Posts: 242Originally Posted by Langer [View Original Post]
http://ukrgo.com/view_subsection.php?id_subsection=146
Following is local review site, which is incredibly difficult to navigate, so I am linking to one review, for 800/500, or presumably $29/ hour, $19/ half-hour. So there's your cheap blow and go. Guy wrote a short novella about his experience and appears satisfied (I skipped to the conclusion and didn't read the entire novella):
http://www.kiev-x.in/viewtopic.php?p=1238
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08-10-21 18:52 #21770
Posts: 823Originally Posted by Rugga [View Original Post]
Kiev keeps changing constantly into the new again and again. Never been cheap for me, but I am not going for bargain prices. If it's free or affordable, I'll take it. But I also have sufficient funds.
I loved it in 2003, it's been great in 2008 during the River Palace era, then slowly evolved to my best ever in 2018-2019.6 weeks visit in 2019 was actually cheaper overall than some of my 10 days flybys in the past. Because I was taken for a local. In that respect I do not see Kiev will ever change its ways, will always be different from the west. Cultural traditions as reflected in classic literature at least over the last two centuries reproduce the same behavior within the local circles. That's what attracts me.
And Rugga success IMO is due to his confidence. My impression he has no doubts that he deserves the best, and he gets it more than supposed to happen on average. Ukrainian women do not like doubts and uncertainty in the male behavior. Indeed, some of the girls that I dated in Kiev amazed to the point of me pinching myself. Am I in a dream? And this gorgeous woman, is she indeed in my arms right now, kissing me passionately and already naked, ready for more? I never questioned if I am good enough to have that kind. This approach doesn't work with pro girls at the Arena, but I do not go there. Those are not my target audience.
Going back to your intention to spend more time in Kiev. 3-4 weeks is barely enough. By the week 3 I started to establish good rapport with decent girls, and the inevitable departure was looming in my mind. 6 weeks was much easier on my psyche. The best modus operandi was 4 long visits over 12-14 months with stays ranging from 3 to 6 weeks, and a total of 20 weeks. Then the girls take you for local, and it's a totally different game. No money can buy their trust. Ukrainian girls attitude is simple, as has been formulated by someone here before, maybe by Riina. Can this man improve the quality of my life? Is he better than my other options?
And yeah, sure one can get highway truck stop lizards on the outskirts of the city, those are cheap. But we are not looking at those. My local friends in Kiev aren't for sure.
Anyway, great to read realistic healthy report from the ground.
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08-10-21 16:13 #21769
Posts: 92Originally Posted by VinDici [View Original Post]
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08-10-21 16:11 #21768
Posts: 92Originally Posted by CallSign [View Original Post]
What I am trying to find out about is the local scene hence my post.
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08-10-21 16:07 #21767
Posts: 92Originally Posted by MSClive [View Original Post]
Must be places, I'll search and report back.
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08-10-21 14:24 #21766
Posts: 68Originally Posted by YummyPL [View Original Post]
Last few days I didn't bother with apartments or p4 p. My local "good girl' dates went extremely well I won't go into detail as it has become serious relations now. Can't believe my luck, doesn't happen as easy in my country with so many spoilt brat girls around. Actually had one massage which was amazing, got the girls personal number but didn't call her back. My Ukrainian ex set me up with another date with a "good" girlfriend of hers. First date sat in a terrace in Podil for 3/4 hours consumed huge amounts of booze. This is one classy Ukrainian girl who does crypto and is loaded. Fluent English. Just back from Caribbean. No plastic surgery or boob jobs which is what I like. Would like to award her a 9 but she is 30 yo LOL. She could probably buy me out a few times! Never asked for taxi's or money. Just a few kisses and hand holding no sex but seems to be there for the taking. Only complaint is she is a bit of a feisty cow and doesn't give up on little arguments when drunk. She told me her and her friends stay away from foreigners as most are sex tourists. Time ran out but still messaging.
Another Ukrainan buddy I've known for a few years I was supposed to meet up with his girlfriend and their friends for some drinks. That's code word for introduce me to local pussy. The fucker cancelled last minute. This approach turbo charges your chances as you are being introduced by friends that suspicion barrier is low and trust is there from day one. Because I know some of the local culture and can talk about local stuff I'm kind of "ok" to be seen with + I've got money and yes it matters to even good girls here. Not wanting to brag but to give some context these girls complemented me on my presentation numerous times.
I noticed the busy restaurant street near the ferris wheel has good looking locals getting pissed at weekends. Spoke to a few which could easily be turned into girlfriends but not in a few days. If only there was time to escalate the relations you could have a dozen on the booty call in Kiev. And that is what I found is the problem. You need a few months to be a success here. P4 P not so good for short term visitors and local girls probably impossible if you are here for a short holiday. I'm wondering whether to take some time off and move to Kiev for a few months just to make hay while sun shines! Experience shows places like this don't stay the same and the scene can changes permanently then it will be too late. Kiev is already changed for the worse compared to a few years ago.
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08-10-21 12:08 #21765
Posts: 15Originally Posted by CallSign [View Original Post]
I speak a little Russian, won't be difficult to explain I need the rapid test because I come from the UK.
Where I can see the lab lady? Are there any direction signs?
Where I can get the "verde" link?
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08-10-21 00:42 #21764
Posts: 397Originally Posted by Langer [View Original Post]
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08-09-21 20:41 #21763
Posts: 823Originally Posted by YummyPL [View Original Post]
Maybe off the bus. Maybe she found his accommodations more appealing than her own. Maybe she didn't have a place to stay. That's the beauty of Kiev, great, and even totally unbelievable things happen with higher frequency.
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08-09-21 19:45 #21762
Posts: 74Originally Posted by Langer [View Original Post]
https://www.avert.org/professionals/...l-asia/ukraine
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08-09-21 19:33 #21761
Posts: 74Originally Posted by Alexandrey77 [View Original Post]
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08-09-21 19:16 #21760
Posts: 74Originally Posted by Alexandrey77 [View Original Post]
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08-09-21 18:54 #21759
Posts: 499Originally Posted by PhotoSlider [View Original Post]
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08-09-21 15:38 #21758
Posts: 823Originally Posted by Rugga [View Original Post]
He knows how to make EE girls comfortable.
3000 for overnight with an 8 is rare, but not unheard of. I did overnight with 8 for 2000 including Greek on the first date and another 9 stayed on the sofa in the living room for free, drunk, gorgeous and sleeping. I was 55 at the time, getting praises on my looks, which I myself do not find extraordinary, but perhaps an average local would be told he is 45. Locals smoke and drink hard liquor, I don't. My quality of life is considerably higher in certain respects.
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08-09-21 13:46 #21757
Posts: 15Tavelling to Kiev from the UK
Hi guys, has anyone traveled from the UK to Ukraine recently?
I'm planning to go in September.
Ukraine is on the AMBER list in Englad, so its possible to skip the quarantine for people fully vaccinated on return and in Kiev.
Anyone has done the rapid test at the airport on arrival?
Any piece of advice would be very appreciated.
Thank you.