Montreal

[WyattEarp]

It simply isn't part of the established scene in North America.........

Based on the discussions about the topic on the local board, it appears that most ladies in Montreal feel that way, so I am just saying that if getting BBFS is your goal, it is not your best travel destination. It is a good BBBJ and CIM destination, however, if finishing in a condom, or needing oral sex to get hard enough for the condom, is an issue.

No, don't go to Canada for BBFS. There's a reason the local boards will send you packing.

I see some guys on the Brazil thread say they can show up with an STD-free medical report and negotiate multiple BBFS sessions with a girl. Others say it is more available in SE Asia. If I had to guess, when it's available in third world countries it's not with the top tier providers. I've been to quite a few hooker bars and venues around the world. If you don't pull out your condom brand of choice back in the room, the girl is ready with hers.

[Mongerer88]

I don't see much on the website outside of open minded or energetic if that's what you mean?

It simply isn't part of the established scene in North America.

Among reputable agencies in Montreal, their use of the term open minded generally involves covered anal sex and / or fetishes. After the C36 law, they needed to be more careful about using acronyms within certain advertising venues.

The agencies claim to have a system of sharing handles and phone numbers of guys who ask for BBFS (either upon contacting the agency or in session) among one another, so those callers can be ignored. None of us know for certain if that is true.

It simply isn't a big part of the scene based on what I have observed. Of course you might find an independent that offers it. But as Norbert61 said, most of the reports of it on the local board (which gets the poster banned) are of the very lowest end druggies on mass classified advertising sites. They want more money for drugs and your STD risk goes way up. From your perspective, uncovered vaginal sex carries a exponentially higher STD risk than being the recipient (or giver) of uncovered oral sex.

With respect to S. A. , yes, as you can read on the S. A. Thread, BBFS is certainly reported to occur among ladies who don't consider themselves sex workers and when they view the customer as her boyfriend. This occurs after many dates and after much money. I don't think that is what the poster asking the question had in mind.

It is also worth noting that many independents charging top dollar have on their websites that they will terminate the session and keep the money if the customer asks for BBFS during the session. So looking for this in a market where it is not typically available can lead to a ruined trip.

Worldwide, BBFS is occasionally reported at low-cost Asian massage parlors with a lot of immigrant women who want to get pregnant as a result of believing that doing so will increase the odds of obtaining citizenship. For what it is worth, Montreal has shut down most of the low-priced walk-in Asian massage parlors offering sex of any kind, so it is not a good destination if that is your goal.

Honestly, I don't get this stuff. On the Asian side, helping to brung a baby into the world that will live a life on public support just seems wrong, as does helping to contribute to the drug habits of a woman offering BBFS to get more money. Personally, I choose ladies that are okay with me using my favorite condoms that I rarely have any problems finishing in during covered vaginal or covered anal sex. And I have a preference for CIM ladies if it so happens that I want or need to finish without the condom on. I do also value a lady who can do a good hand job finish if the uncovered oral doesn't do the trick, especially if it is second cum in the session. But I don't think that an uncovered vaginal or uncovered anal sex finish really feels better than an uncovered oral or hand finish, especially given the potential damage it can do to either, or both, parties (or the child that might be produced).

Based on the discussions about the topic on the local board, it appears that most ladies in Montreal feel that way, so I am just saying that if getting BBFS is your goal, it is not your best travel destination. It is a good BBBJ and CIM destination, however, if finishing in a condom, or needing oral sex to get hard enough for the condom, is an issue.

[Norbert61]

Is BBFSCIP readily available on MTL? Also debating MTL or ONT for mongering first and tourism second. BBFS is a must though.

It is not readily available. If this is the only reason you are going and you don't speak French I would go to Toronto- Honestly it is the advanced course. It is available but not readily. If you are on SA you will have better luck but of course it is more expense and more hassle- if you are looking for BB that is readily available you can find a few girls that offer it openly but you are talking about some sketchy ass hoes. If you search "extras " or "very open minded on LL you will turn up candidates. You will find a bunch of Asians but they will be 20 years older than the pictures. On a one time only meeting you are probably talking about way less than 2% of the girls.

[GuyBrusg1957]

BBBJ is very common and standard GFE, CIM is about 50/50 some may or may not offer it and may ask extra for it.

Most reputable agencies and Indies are up front about it and will definitely tell you if you ask but many have it clarified already on their web sight.

I don't see much on the website outside of open minded or energetic if that's what you mean?

[Parasitius]

No, it is not. Neither in Montreal nor Ontario.

You need the third world and / or a lot of true Asian immigrants for that to be available.

Some guys have some luck with getting it from long-time Sugar Baby relationships, but that would not be available to a tourist.

Ontario, well I had BBFS a few times as a tourist with a top 5 rated *** girl of the year anyway. (It got censored I guess I can't name the Toronto forum which has annual top 10 ratings.) It was a while back so I can safely say it without anyone guessing right LOL.

Did I really get *that* lucky? At _o.

[BaltiX]

There is Velvet and Xxxtase, plus Indy Companions (approx 100 independent escorts) plus about another 20 that advertise on the local board.

If you have trouble choosing from well over 200 women that are good choices, then perhaps Toronto is an option.

There is of course Leolist, Humpchies, and AI but I would not recommend any of these as they are full of bait and switch, pimps and scam artists. Tryst Link has good options but a lot of the Indy companions also advertise there.

Montreal used to have more agencies, but they closed down in last 5+ years. Montreal Girls on Fire, Devilish Escorts, Mojo, Elite, Eleganza, Mike's Mension, Asservissante, Glamour Montreal, WildTime Escorts, Montreal Sex City, Montreal Unicorn Healers etc.

[DethManRulz]

Is BBFSCIP readily available on MTL? Also debating MTL or ONT for mongering first and tourism second. BBFS is a must though.

Please stay away from Montreal with that BBFS crap. You're not wanted. No reputable girl or agency will allow this.

[Danibbler]

I am from Montreal, lived in TO and now in Asia. Thinking that I love the Mtl scene so much that I might even retire there!

I agree with what WyattEarp and Mongerer88 have said. Both are great, but I also prefer MTL.

[Hacsek]

IS BBBJ + CIM common in among providers? I am assuming it is not and a PSE only thing.

BBBJ is very common and standard GFE, CIM is about 50/50 some may or may not offer it and may ask extra for it.

Most reputable agencies and Indies are up front about it and will definitely tell you if you ask but many have it clarified already on their web sight.

[Hacsek]

Is BBFSCIP readily available on MTL? Also debating MTL or ONT for mongering first and tourism second. BBFS is a must though.

That is really frowned upon by reputable SP in Montreal.

Requesting that from an agency or independent could get you blacklisted all over by both groups.

You would be surprised how fast word spreads in their community, they have their back channels and blacklists like hobbyists have their review boards.

Local review board will ban you for life if you mention or look for that on their sight.

Personally I would never ask for it, it is not a chance I am willing to gamble on, no matter how good it might feel.

[Mongerer88]

IS BBBJ + CIM common in among providers? I am assuming it is not and a PSE only thing.

Yes, that is very common in Montreal. BBBJ is standard and the majority are okay with CIM.

[GuyBrusg1957]

IS BBBJ + CIM common in among providers? I am assuming it is not and a PSE only thing.

[Mongerer88]

Is BBFSCIP readily available on MTL? Also debating MTL or ONT for mongering first and tourism second. BBFS is a must though.

No, it is not. Neither in Montreal nor Ontario.

You need the third world and / or a lot of true Asian immigrants for that to be available.

Some guys have some luck with getting it from long-time Sugar Baby relationships, but that would not be available to a tourist.

[Gabriel071]

Is BBFSCIP readily available on MTL? Also debating MTL or ONT for mongering first and tourism second. BBFS is a must though.

[WyattEarp]

Can you confirm if it is true that agencies provide uncensored pics of the SPs?

If anyone can confirm for each of the well-known agencies, that would be appreciated (Sensation, Luxury, Velvet, XXXTase, VOG, Euphoria, XO). Although the one that I really want to see is from Luxury so please let me know if anyone is able to confirm this.

Reading between the lines of your question, the short answer is no.

Have some of the agencies been known to text a facial photo of a new girl to a regular client? Yes.

If you are polite and to the point, you might get them to send you a facial photo of one or two girls. If you ask a lot of questions, the agency will simply not reply. I would not count on them sending you more photos though.