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  1. #7226
    Quote Originally Posted by DrPoon  [View Original Post]
    The delta variant came from the UK variant which developed from vaccinated UK people who traveled to India and this mixed in to infect the mostly unvaccinated Indians and caused the delta variant.

    So supposedly if the UK people were not vaccinated prior to traveling to India they would have just transferred the regular UK variant.
    Probably you are not vaccinated, when I was young many years back we learned that vaccines safe life and in 1965 it was impossible to go to school without being vaccinated about many different disease, after at the army it was also obligatory, today so many people deny the reality.

  2. #7225
    Quote Originally Posted by Mursenary  [View Original Post]
    First Delta variant identified, October 2020:

    https://www.who.int/en/activities/tr...oV-2-variants/

    First vaccine given December 2020.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-55307642

    Chronologically impossible.
    DrPoon you have been pooned.

  3. #7224
    Also notice the extremely high percentage rate of the cases reported in, being from healthcare workers!

    This implies that they report in their own side effects, but the massive underreporting is among the non-healthcare workers.

    So the real numbers of serious side effects are much much larger!

  4. #7223
    Quote Originally Posted by BigBuddy69  [View Original Post]
    Total bullshit as usual.
    Look at the covid vaccines:

    https://www.adrreports.eu/en/search_subst.html#.

    From what I know and hear from people working closely on it, only about a 3rd gets reported in to these statistics, and only the most severe effects. Men also underreport heavily, and there is usually a much longer lag in the reports made by men than by women. Even still, the number of serious side effects in Europe alone (10% of the global population), while the vaccination rate in Europe for 2 dosages (when most side effects appear) is less than 50% continent wide, is already at close to 1 million in these statistics!

    Add in the lag in reporting.

    Multiple it by 10 (global pop).

    And multiple it by 3 due to malreportings.

    Sum: Globally we would talk about over 50 million serious side effects!

  5. #7222
    Quote Originally Posted by DrPoon  [View Original Post]
    The delta variant came from the UK variant which developed from vaccinated UK people who traveled to India and this mixed in to infect the mostly unvaccinated Indians and caused the delta variant.

    So supposedly if the UK people were not vaccinated prior to traveling to India they would have just transferred the regular UK variant.
    That is totally wrong. It has nothing to do with vaccination status and the UK. The delta variant is a mutation that originated in India, almost certainly amongst the unvaccinated. It spread rapidly and as the UK has a large Indian / Pakistani population it was inevitable to be the first European country where it spread to.

  6. #7221
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulInZurich  [View Original Post]
    You must be in terrible shape if you improve at 55 after cycling 100 km.
    I started really down for power on Sunday 8 August when I was more than 1 month late, but made a great job to improve, climbing Iseran 2770, Gran San Bernardino 2420 from Aosta, Izoard 2340, Galibier 2620, Agnello 2744 twice, la Bonette 2802. Ask any professional racer or team manager, when I didn't see you nor any of my other followers, and now I m ready to return, but to perform, not making curves like Italiens, but facing straight the steep, to Zoncolan, Mortirolo, Stelvio, Gavia if I have time and I do' t forget Loze. My passion holidays are not finished, still 11 climbings to enjoy.

  7. #7220
    Au contraire. They started Oxford University trials way back in June 2020 I think. So these clinical trial could also have caused the UK variant to occur in the first place.

    Then someone with the vaccine in England back in July could have transferred his mutated variant which survived his vaccination and so on and so forth until one of the many Indians in England went back to India for a visit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mursenary  [View Original Post]
    First Delta variant identified, October 2020:

    https://www.who.int/en/activities/tr...oV-2-variants/

    First vaccine given December 2020.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-55307642

    Chronologically impossible.

  8. #7219
    Quote Originally Posted by DrPoon  [View Original Post]
    The delta variant came from the UK variant which developed from vaccinated UK people who traveled to India and this mixed in to infect the mostly unvaccinated Indians and caused the delta variant.

    So supposedly if the UK people were not vaccinated prior to traveling to India they would have just transferred the regular UK variant.
    First Delta variant identified, October 2020:

    https://www.who.int/en/activities/tr...oV-2-variants/

    First vaccine given December 2020.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-55307642

    Chronologically impossible.

  9. #7218
    Quote Originally Posted by DrPoon  [View Original Post]
    The delta variant came from the UK variant which developed from vaccinated UK people who traveled to India and this mixed in to infect the mostly unvaccinated Indians and caused the delta variant.

    So supposedly if the UK people were not vaccinated prior to traveling to India they would have just transferred the regular UK variant.
    That makes no molecular science sense.

  10. #7217
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    The rate of side effects from both the adenovirus and mRNA vaccines are dangerously high. Millions are getting sick for a long time.
    Total bullshit as usual.

  11. #7216
    Quote Originally Posted by Mursenary  [View Original Post]
    Please educate us how selection by vaccines created a more "deadly" mutation than natural selection.
    The delta variant came from the UK variant which developed from vaccinated UK people who traveled to India and this mixed in to infect the mostly unvaccinated Indians and caused the delta variant.

    So supposedly if the UK people were not vaccinated prior to traveling to India they would have just transferred the regular UK variant.

  12. #7215
    Quote Originally Posted by NiteRiderCal  [View Original Post]
    The technology is from a failed gene therapy tech, and I do have serious safety concern with mRNA / LNP. No need for conspiracy.
    The rate of side effects from both the adenovirus and mRNA vaccines are dangerously high. Millions are getting sick for a long time.

  13. #7214
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    my Summer sport show me again I don't need from how I improved my health and strength.
    You must be in terrible shape if you improve at 55 after cycling 100 km.

  14. #7213
    Quote Originally Posted by NiteRiderCal  [View Original Post]
    We do have a idea of what direction the mutation will take us. If we do nothing and let it burn, it will become less pathogenic overtime. The vaccine select for mutation that is more deathly.
    Please educate us how selection by vaccines created a more "deadly" mutation than natural selection.

  15. #7212
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Of course vaccines won't work. Not to mention the vaxxed needs new shots every 6 months.

    But letting it burn won't burn it away. It will just turn into a seasonal endemic, and we have no idea where the mutation rate will stabilize.

    Regarding DNA changing vaccines, India just approved a home grown DNA vaccine against covid. Wonder how that one will turn out in terms of side effects. Because they didn't do any testing related to side effects. LOL?
    We do have a idea of what direction the mutation will take us. If we do nothing and let it burn, it will become less pathogenic overtime. The vaccine select for mutation that is more deathly.

    The technology is from a failed gene therapy tech, and I do have serious safety concern with mRNA / LNP. No need for conspiracy.

    It will not change your DNA. To do that, they have to put in a code to make DNA editing enzyme. They will have to get negotiate a license and pay a percentage to the company that own the intellectual property. It is not in their financial interest to change your DNA. You would have to believe that they hate money.

    DNA editing tech is not easy, can't be done in a few months. If they just threw together some code for DNA editing, you would see cancer case go up to the sky. I don't see people around me getting cancer.

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