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[The Cane]

I've told The Cane I would love to get to Scandallo in Brazil!

The baddest puta palace on the planet!

And for the monger of means, sophistication, and high taste:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEV51mFxVxo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9wWoM0zaE4

[PayForIt]

Just scrollling through this conversation and thought I would comment. I've had excellent VFM in Spain, just not in the clubs. The small apartments in Barcelona and Madrid were some of the best mongering experiences I've ever had and all of them were 80-120 Euro per hour. If you are more adventurous and speak a little Spanish, Colombia is off the chart. Bogota is the best VFM I've seen anywhere, better than Thailand. Yes. Not kidding. There is an ISG member there who will take you on a tour of the clubs and the pricing and service and attractiveness will blow your mind. The touristic appeal is much more limited than Western Europe, but seriously, Colombia is insane.

Very interesting. Never been to Columbia. Suppose a little worried about safety etc. And of course it is a long way from home. My Spanish is pretty good (I didn't speak any English at all when recently in Madrid). I have a pal who goes to Medellin once per year and he too raves about it. The tour sounds terrific! I've told The Cane I would love to get to Scandalos in Brazil! Think I might wait until the pandemic / international travel really is sorted without hiccup (wouldn't want to hit a red country nor face quarantine abroad if things went wrong!) but you are clearly experienced across the globe so the strong recommendation is noted.

[The Cane]

Just scrollling through this conversation and thought I would comment. I've had excellent VFM in Spain, just not in the clubs. The small apartments in Barcelona and Madrid were some of the best mongering experiences I've ever had and all of them were 80-120 Euro per hour. If you are more adventurous and speak a little Spanish, Colombia is off the chart. Bogota is the best VFM I've seen anywhere, better than Thailand. Yes. Not kidding. There is an ISG member there who will take you on a tour of the clubs and the pricing and service and attractiveness will blow your mind. The touristic appeal is much more limited than Western Europe, but seriously, Colombia is insane.

I'm a club kind of guy. Why I'm posting in the CDS clubs only thread LOL!

[ShinyCrazy]

Just scrollling through this conversation and thought I would comment. I've had excellent VFM in Spain, just not in the clubs. The small apartments in Barcelona and Madrid were some of the best mongering experiences I've ever had and all of them were 80-120 Euro per hour. If you are more adventurous and speak a little Spanish, Colombia is off the chart. Bogota is the best VFM I've seen anywhere, better than Thailand. Yes. Not kidding. There is an ISG member there who will take you on a tour of the clubs and the pricing and service and attractiveness will blow your mind. The touristic appeal is much more limited than Western Europe, but seriously, Colombia is insane.

[The Cane]

You would have zero chance of getting all that in Scandalos or Miladys even for 300 given the opening price is 250 in Scandalous (deliberate pun) and 300 in Miladys. I have little doubt you'd get all of that with some of the independents who are desperate for money but then you have the whole bait an switch nightmare. But I'm not sure (other than Thailand) where you'll get all that now for 300 anyway.

And that's why I won't be returning to Spain. But, I think that a starting budget of 300 euros per hour is a solid budget for many an FKK in Germany still. And the day that it isn't is the day that I stop going to Germany too! And that doesn't bother me one iota because remember, I don't just work the European theater. My top world destination remains Brazil where 300 euros for an hour of sex (with everything I like included) would be a gross over payment actually. Switzerland has long been out for me as simply too expensive. I could afford Spain, and I like Spain as a country to visit, but value for a monger's money is lacking. Germany has always been the best all around value for a monger's cash in Europe. That will change for me if the cost pushes way too much above 300 euros per hour for what I want. Back in the day when I first started going to FKKs, my budget was 250 euros per hour. I'm now at 300. If that's not enough for these greedy tutes and money grubbing club owners charging 30 euros per hour for "sheets" (bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit), then I'm out of Europe altogether and it's Brazil here I come exclusively for good! That's what I was planning to do anyway. One more big trip to Germany, then I'm done with Europe. Mongers need to start voting with their feet and walk the hell out like you were prepared to do, rather than pay these ridiculous (bullshit) prices for a piece of ass!

[PayForIt]

I'm quite willing to pay up to around 300 euros, but that must include an hour of service with BBBJ / CIM (-50 with no CIM), straight, and anal sex. Also some massage if I want it. I'll let the money go, but I want the aforementioned menu. The Spanish scene is requiring too much money for too small a menu. I'm out!

Love the Dragons' Den parlance! I think you'd get what you want for that 300 but would require some work. As an interesting exercise, next time I'm in E92 I may ask 3 or 4 girls I think (don't know) would be up for that menu to see if they'd include the full list for the 300. My guess is it will be close! Truth is that once you know the girl BBBJ is a given for no extra cash. I can only think of one girl in E92 (Olympia) who adamantly will not do BBBJ. I am not a CIM or anal fan so no idea if either of those requirements are available. Deana at Cleofas was mad keen on anal and would openly ask for it (for no extra money or upsell) in 2019 and 2020 but she has left the club now and is no longer working having opened a nail salon of her own. Good luck to her!

You would have zero chance of getting all that in Scandalos or Miladys even for 300 given the opening price is 250 in Scandalous (deliberate pun) and 300 in Miladys. I have little doubt you'd get all of that with some of the independents who are desperate for money but then you have the whole bait an switch nightmare.

But I'm not sure (other than Thailand) where you'll get all that now for 300 anyway. Maybe in some of the smaller FKKs. In Sharks and Oase a lot of the girls are charging 200/ hour. So you will always have paid 100 for anal in FKKs as extra and 50 for CIM. Hence in the big Hessen FKKs you would be over your budget for the complete list. But I suspect you'd still not struggle given that it is a chance for the girl to get 300 for an hour. Which not many punters offer. This upfront "guarantee" is very much how I operate. I find that nearly all girls will do a deal, in all of the clubs, if you pitch a discounted fee for 2 hours. By the time they have washed, reapplied the make up, sat alone / walking around to catch the next prey, the guarantee is worth it for them.

[The Cane]

Cane. I'm sorry to see you depart the CDS scene. FKK land has always been better of course but I much prefer Spain as a country. For pure unadulterated Caesar-esque feeling, there is nothing quite like sunbathing around the big pool at Oase or Sharks with 100+ naked ladies surrounding you, or walking around the pool edge in heels. But it would appear rates there have also increased with many top Sharks girls now wanting 150 or even 200 for the hour. Still a better deal than in Scandalos but of course then there is the entry fee. But to balance that the food, overall feeling etc makes FKKs, for me, the top mongering destination. I don't disagree with the general sentiment that places like Miladys and Scandalos (and Vive and Pygmalion in Madrid) are forcing punters to pay too much. But then you have the balance of attending E92/ Glass Palace / Divas. Of course this is only considering the club options. In both countries you will find many escorts or apartments if you are willing to run the bait and switch gauntlet, or face the parade rather than enjoy mingling with the LU before choosing. I've tried the villa thing (howled laughing at the report of Babylon having 30 girls instead of the lamentable showing I encountered. There aren't even 30 girls on their website!) and enjoyed a nice time at a massage place in Malaga and reported. But, having done CDS clubs for the past 6 weeks, I am off to other pastures for a few weeks before returning in late Sept / Oct when a lot of the girls from Ro will have returned.

I'm quite willing to pay up to around 300 euros, but that must include an hour of service with BBBJ / CIM (-50 with no CIM), straight, and anal sex. Also some massage if I want it. I'll let the money go, but I want the aforementioned menu. The Spanish scene is requiring too much money for too small a menu. I'm out!

[PayForIt]

So, let me get this right? Working Girl just decides to deduct 30 from her purse with a client? Considering also, there is also so much cash sloshing about at Scandalo?

Interesting.

Don't quite know what I've done to upset you Jummy but you can believe or disbelieve. It is your prerogative.

I suspect had I not agreed 2 hours with her she may not have agreed. But as I said in my report. I bought her x2 drinks. At 50 euros each that's 100 and she gets half. So 30 out of the 50 was no big deal. It was also Sunday, she was free, had been free for 30 minutes before I approached her, and my guess is (having bought the first of her two 50 e drinks) that she figured that she had the choice of losing a guaranteed 370 for two hours, having already made 25 on the first 50 drink, or taking a small (in context) hit.

I'm not paying 30 euros for sheets. It is a total liberty as The Cane says. 10 euros is even offensive (at E92), but 30 is just a joke.

Had she said no, not paying (which I expected), or the club didn't drop it (unlikely) I was quite willing to walk out not to return.

The dreadful thing about this policy going forward is that saying to a girl in the bar "by the way, I'm not paying 30 e for sheets" is likely to kill many a negotiation on going to the room. But in reality most girls in the club are now charging 250, and with this it is really 280 - which takes it beyond what I'm willing to pay when there is a club with just as many options less than 30 minutes away (E92 or even dare I say Sala Divas) where you can have a lot of fun for that 280 (indeed nearly 2 hours in the room with a girl of your choice).

Cane. I'm sorry to see you depart the CDS scene. FKK land has always been better of course but I much prefer Spain as a country. For pure unadulterated Caesar-esque feeling, there is nothing quite like sunbathing around the big pool at Oase or Sharks with 100+ naked ladies surrounding you, or walking around the pool edge in heels. But it would appear rates there have also increased with many top Sharks girls now wanting 150 or even 200 for the hour. Still a better deal than in Scandalos but of course then there is the entry fee. But to balance that the food, overall feeling etc makes FKKs, for me, the top mongering destination. I don't disagree with the general sentiment that places like Miladys and Scandalos (and Vive and Pygmalion in Madrid) are forcing punters to pay too much. But then you have the balance of attending E92/ Glass Palace / Divas. Of course this is only considering the club options. In both countries you will find many escorts or apartments if you are willing to run the bait and switch gauntlet, or face the parade rather than enjoy mingling with the LU before choosing. I've tried the villa thing (howled laughing at the report of Babylon having 30 girls instead of the lamentable showing I encountered. There aren't even 30 girls on their website!) and enjoyed a nice time at a massage place in Malaga and reported. But, having done CDS clubs for the past 6 weeks, I am off to other pastures for a few weeks before returning in late Sept / Oct when a lot of the girls from Ro will have returned.

[Jummy1]

One hour at E92 has been 150 for a long time and that meant that 30 minutes was nearly always 80 (rather than 75). Yes they ask for 10 for sheets now (a joke).

Went to Scandalos last night. Surprisingly good for a Sunday. Several good options and nearly went with the incredible body which is India (Spanish from Almeria). Body to die for but facially not quite there for me. Blonde Columbian Sofia is a must try on another occasion. Tattoos but there is something very sexy about her. Joanna with her gym body looked great but I ended up doing 2 hours with Samantha. At the reception desk upstairs I was asked for the 30 for sheets. I asked "why 30? I could buy a whole duvet set for not much more and keep it? The receptionist shrugged. I told her I wouldn't pay it and should therefore leave instead. It's a total party killer to carp about money but this is just taking the piss after a bottle of water is now 15 ridiculous euros at Scandalos. Samantha said not to worry. And paid the 30 euros. But I actually watched her have to deduct it from her money and pay it. It gets worse. When the second hour started the phone went and the receptionist said it was another 30 - for the same sheet! Again I said I would leave if forced to pay it and this time I listened to Samantha remonstrate and the demand was dropped.

Samantha was excellent. She worked in New York for a year, has perfect English and a total party attitude (and terrific skills) in the room.

But this extortion is seriously starting to cause me to think that I will only visit Scandalos very infrequently in future. Truth is that they don't care. They have a seriously list clientele now. Another night of Porsches, one Lambo etc outside from the Moroccan / Middle East contingent. Good luck to them. They have a lot of cash to splash and they like to have a great time. They are buying the 50 euros drinks all over the bar, so an extra 30 for sheets etc is not going to put them off.

So, let me get this right? Working Girl just decides to deduct €30 from her purse with a client? Considering also, there is also so much cash sloshing about at Scandalo?

Interesting.

[The Cane]

Went to Scandalos last night. Surprisingly good for a Sunday. Several good options and nearly went with the incredible body which is India (Spanish from Almeria). Body to die for but facially not quite there for me. Blonde Columbian Sofia is a must try on another occasion. Tattoos but there is something very sexy about her. Joanna with her gym body looked great but I ended up doing 2 hours with Samantha. At the reception desk upstairs I was asked for the 30 for sheets. I asked "why 30? I could buy a whole duvet set for not much more and keep it? The receptionist shrugged. I told her I wouldn't pay it and should therefore leave instead. It's a total party killer to carp about money but this is just taking the piss after a bottle of water is now 15 ridiculous euros at Scandalos. Samantha said not to worry. And paid the 30 euros. But I actually watched her have to deduct it from her money and pay it. It gets worse. When the second hour started the phone went and the receptionist said it was another 30 - for the same sheet! Again I said I would leave if forced to pay it and this time I listened to Samantha remonstrate and the demand was dropped.

Samantha was excellent. She worked in New York for a year, has perfect English and a total party attitude (and terrific skills) in the room. But this extortion is seriously starting to cause me to think that I will only visit Scandalos very infrequently in future. Truth is that they don't care. They have a seriously list clientele now. Another night of Porsches, one Lambo etc outside from the Moroccan / Middle East contingent. Good luck to them. They have a lot of cash to splash and they like to have a great time. They are buying the 50 euros drinks all over the bar, so an extra 30 for sheets etc is not going to put them off.

This thing with the sheets is complete and total bullshit, and you did well not to pay it. But, you were also extremely lucky to have a girl who took it out of her own money! Few and far between would ever do that, expecting you the man to take the hit. I swore off of Spain after my last trip because I didn't feel that value for my money was there. With bullshit like this, it only gets worse. I remain with my resolve not to return to Spain for mongering!

[PayForIt]

Is sheet 10 euros now at estark? Well then the price of 30 min is 80 e now instead of 75. Last time I was there many girls wanted 80 for 30 min. So in total it is 90 euros for 30 min now.

One hour at E92 has been 150 for a long time and that meant that 30 minutes was nearly always 80 (rather than 75). Yes they ask for 10 for sheets now (a joke).

Went to Scandalos last night. Surprisingly good for a Sunday. Several good options and nearly went with the incredible body which is India (Spanish from Almeria). Body to die for but facially not quite there for me. Blonde Columbian Sofia is a must try on another occasion. Tattoos but there is something very sexy about her. Joanna with her gym body looked great but I ended up doing 2 hours with Samantha. At the reception desk upstairs I was asked for the 30 for sheets. I asked "why 30? I could buy a whole duvet set for not much more and keep it? The receptionist shrugged. I told her I wouldn't pay it and should therefore leave instead. It's a total party killer to carp about money but this is just taking the piss after a bottle of water is now 15 ridiculous euros at Scandalos. Samantha said not to worry. And paid the 30 euros. But I actually watched her have to deduct it from her money and pay it. It gets worse. When the second hour started the phone went and the receptionist said it was another 30 - for the same sheet! Again I said I would leave if forced to pay it and this time I listened to Samantha remonstrate and the demand was dropped.

Samantha was excellent. She worked in New York for a year, has perfect English and a total party attitude (and terrific skills) in the room.

But this extortion is seriously starting to cause me to think that I will only visit Scandalos very infrequently in future. Truth is that they don't care. They have a seriously list clientele now. Another night of Porsches, one Lambo etc outside from the Moroccan / Middle East contingent. Good luck to them. They have a lot of cash to splash and they like to have a great time. They are buying the 50 euros drinks all over the bar, so an extra 30 for sheets etc is not going to put them off.

I did make comments to the management when I was leaving, about the 30 sheets requirement, 15 for water and 18 for one glass of red wine. But it was obvious to me that they are not really interested in anyone who has any consideration for what they are spending at all. Samantha did a deal on the 2 hours - 400 instead of 500. But still ended up buying her x2 drinks (so ended up the same).

Truth is that in E92 for 500 euros you can have a threesome for 2 hours, or if you prefer, most of the girls will do 2 hours for a guaranteed 250 which means you can pick one girl, have a great two hours, return to the bar, recover, and take a second girl for another 2 hours. For the same price as one two hour room in Scandalos with a debate over sheets and a feeling of being ripped off.

I cannot see it changing though. So whilst there are a number of very pretty girls in Scandalos (along with several who would struggle in E92 let alone here), it's becoming unattractive when there are other options for a lot less. I was in Glass Palace Estepona last Friday night. Price is 200/ hour for the girls. Had a terrific two hours with Valeria. Dom Rep. Dark skinned, very toned / slim. She agreed 350 for 2 hours. No charge for sheets, good atmosphere. Didn't succumb to the 50 drinks scam.

Me thinks I need a return to FKK land in the near future!

[Qazwsx5]

Yes they are really pushing the limit at Scandalo, it would be interesting to know how they think about this because it's obvious that their old clientele is long gone with this price structure. Even at Vive Madrid when it used to be 220 I thought they we're pushing the limit, mainly because they we're 40-50 more expensive than other clubs such as Flowers Park and Factory Air, but ok they are located fairly central in the capital of Spain and the people in Madrid have more money so you can somehow understand their strategy. They also charge 250 for an hour nowadays!!

But at Scandalo, located in a industrial area outside Malaga where the locals clearly don't have the same cashflow as in Madrid I find it a bit surprising that the club is pushing it so hard with the prices. If I am honest I would doubt that I will go back there anytime soon. For me to go back there they have to change their strategy drastic because I am not one of those guys who comes to a club and take the girl for 30 minutes and that's it, I want to go to the room at least two times but usually three and all sessions one hour or longer.

With their current price structure they have pushed it too far, it gets too expensive for me and it takes the fun out of it really. I like going to clubs mainly because you can see what you get before heading for the room and you can establish some kind of understanding what to expect in the room if you just take a few minutes of your time and actually talk to the girl of your choice first, but with prices like Scandalo then I rather explore the Internet where you can find a lot of girls for 100-120 for an hour and many of them are reviewed by others so you know what to expect. BUT for me this is not a very fun way to have sex, you more or less make an appointment to go and have sex and that's it really. Don't get me wrong, the sex can be equally fantastic with these girls if not better sometimes, but I like to mingle in a club where you can more or less live out your fantasies!

Each to their own! Do what pleases you the most, there is no right or wrong in this hobby.

By the way at E92 they now charge 10 for sheets and towel, changed it 1/9 (it used to be 5), but as you write 30 at Scandalo is bizarre isn't it!?

Is sheet 10 euros now at estark? Well then the price of 30 min is 80 e now instead of 75. Last time I was there many girls wanted 80 for 30 min. So in total it is 90 euros for 30 min now.

[TeddyBears]

Yes they are really pushing the limit at Scandalo, it would be interesting to know how they think about this because it's obvious that their old clientele is long gone with this price structure. Even at Vive Madrid when it used to be 220€ I thought they we're pushing the limit, mainly because they we're 40-50€ more expensive than other clubs such as Flowers Park and Factory Air, but ok they are located fairly central in the capital of Spain and the people in Madrid have more money so you can somehow understand their strategy. They also charge 250€ for an hour nowadays!!

But at Scandalo, located in a industrial area outside Malaga where the locals clearly don't have the same cashflow as in Madrid I find it a bit surprising that the club is pushing it so hard with the prices. If I am honest I would doubt that I will go back there anytime soon. For me to go back there they have to change their strategy drastic because I am not one of those guys who comes to a club and take the girl for 30 minutes and that's it, I want to go to the room at least two times but usually three and all sessions one hour or longer.

With their current price structure they have pushed it too far, it gets too expensive for me and it takes the fun out of it really. I like going to clubs mainly because you can see what you get before heading for the room and you can establish some kind of understanding what to expect in the room if you just take a few minutes of your time and actually talk to the girl of your choice first, but with prices like Scandalo then I rather explore the Internet where you can find a lot of girls for 100-120€ for an hour and many of them are reviewed by others so you know what to expect. BUT for me this is not a very fun way to have sex, you more or less make an appointment to go and have sex and that's it really. Don't get me wrong, the sex can be equally fantastic with these girls if not better sometimes, but I like to mingle in a club where you can more or less live out your fantasies!

Each to their own! Do what pleases you the most, there is no right or wrong in this hobby.

By the way at E92 they now charge 10€ for sheets and towel, changed it 1/9 (it used to be 5€), but as you write 30€ at Scandalo is bizarre isn't it!?

[TeddyBears]

Yes they are really pushing the limit at Scandalo, it would be interesting to know how they think about this because it's obvious that their old clientele is long gone with this price structure. Even at Vive Madrid when it used to be 220€ I thought they we're pushing the limit, mainly because they we're 40-50€ more expensive than other clubs such as Flowers Park and Factory Air, but ok they are located fairly central in the capital of Spain and the people in Madrid have more money so you can somehow understand their strategy. They also charge 250€ for an hour nowadays!!

But at Scandalo, located in a industrial area outside Malaga where the locals clearly don't have the same cashflow as in Madrid I find it a bit surprising that the club is pushing it so hard with the prices. If I am honest I would doubt that I will go back there anytime soon. For me to go back there they have to change their strategy drastic because I am not one of those guys who comes to a club and take the girl for 30 minutes and that's it, I want to go to the room at least two times but usually three and all sessions one hour or longer.

With their current price structure they have pushed it too far, it gets too expensive for me and it takes the fun out of it really. I like going to clubs mainly because you can see what you get before heading for the room and you can establish some kind of understanding what to expect in the room if you just take a few minutes of your time and actually talk to the girl of your choice first, but with prices like Scandalo then I rather explore the Internet where you can find a lot of girls for 100-120€ for an hour and many of them are reviewed by others so you know what to expect. But for me this is not a very fun way to have sex, you more or less make an appointment to go and have sex and that's it really. Don't get me wrong, the sex can be equally fantastic with these girls if not better sometimes, but I like to mingle in a club where you can more or less live out your fantasies!

Each to their own! Do what pleases you the most, there is no right or wrong in this hobby.

By the way at E92 they now charge 10€ for sheets and towel, changed it 1/9 (it used to be 5€), but as you write 30€ at Scandalo is bizarre isn't it?

[DasBooty]

BUT their price structure is crazy! 250 for 1 hour 150 for half an hour plus 30 for sheets and towel! Come on how could anyone defend that pricing?? I am certain that if they returned to their old price 180 for 1 hour including sheets and towel, well then would maybe even their old Spanish clientele return in numbers that would generate far more cash than it reasonable does today.

Wtf, 30€ for sheets and towel? When I was there 3 weeks ago I paid 250€ for 1 h and no 30€ extra for sheets. If she would have said 30€ extra for sheets I would have said no mi amor. 250€ for 1 h is already pushing it.