FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[Arnold15]

Thanks for your sharing your experiences. The negative reviews of Sharks since reopening is well-documented by now. Hearing reports from multiple members helps paint a clearer picture. That said context still matters. Some mongers give off a wealthy vibe. Some mongers give off I am in the mood to spend money vibe. WGs will react positively to this. Other mongers give a off a "lonely fall in love easily" vibe. Some WGs will react positively to this love-smitten monger believing that he will be a devoted high-repeat customer. Egos of ISGers shrouds reality because these contextual details often go unreported.

You mention that WGs are discussing pricing with you. Are your pricing discussion occurring outside the room. Do you bring up pricing subject first? Or do they?

I almost always discuss pricing and services upfront before I agree to session, especially at tourists clubs. Often it is abrupt and early in the conversation. So naturally some WGs will see this as a red flag. But most of the time I do not care. Because if I do not like their reaction then that is a red flag for me too.

Thanks for reply.

With regular girls, I never discuss price or services before the room. They know what I want to do.
And I prefer regular girls instead of testing new girls.

With a new girl at any club I always discuss services and price before the room. I always choose 30 m first time and tell the price. Then I look at her reaction. If the reaction is bad or negative in any way, I do not session her.

The ratio female-male is a KEY factor for the behavior of the girls and upselling.
If the ratio is 1:3 or higher, then the girls have a good negotiating position.
If it is 1:2 or lower, the girls' bargaining power is much worse.

During 3 days at Mainhattan, the ratio was 1:1,5. And no upselling.
One of my Swedish friends recently visited Palace. This (at least former shit-club) is not my favorite club. He told me that ratio was 1:1 and no upselling.
The travel restrictions have primarily damaged the central Frankfurt clubs (Palace and Mainhattan). Most Asians visited these clubs.

Reports here at ISG tell about ratios of 1:4, 1:5 or even higher at Sharks. And upselling is worse than ever.

Some mongers here at ISG (e.g. Siroja) still do not understand that there is a strong link between the female-male ratio and the behavior of the girls.

[Sirioja]

I have read on this forum for a long time, but never reported.

I can only confirm what you write.

My visit this early autumn at Sharks was a disaster.

Attitudes among girls is even worse than in Amsterdam RLD.

I have never experienced such upselling in the rooms.

Kissing +50 Euro, BBBJ +100 Euro Anal +150 Euro, etc.

Ambient is phantastic. But a club will never be better than the greed among the girls.

This is perhaps the worst FKK-club in the whole Germany to visit at the moment.

I must be really lucky at Sharks on this Summer and not only because I found 2 beauties who are really good for me, had 11 1 hour rooms with them, when my eyes smile seeing Kelli, Melissa, Tessa on July, but mostly because I didn't experience big upselling on my 10 visits and 15 rooms. I may not have the face nor manners for this. My best club on this Summer for a very different guy. I like salmon even not sweet on Sunday 12 September, melon, pasta and natural sweet beauties.

[McAdonis]

As a comparison:

Ratio was 1:1,5 last Friday evening at Mainhattan.

And no upselling.

Plenty of nice girls to choose between.

The situation at Sharks with bad female-male ratio and huge upselling occurs due to "HERD BEHAVIOR" among mongers.

All mongers run to the same place at the same time.

Thanks for your sharing your experiences. The negative reviews of Sharks since reopening is well-documented by now. Hearing reports from multiple members helps paint a clearer picture. That said context still matters. Some mongers give off a wealthy vibe. Some mongers give off I am in the mood to spend money vibe. WGs will react positively to this. Other mongers give a off a "lonely fall in love easily" vibe. Some WGs will react positively to this love-smitten monger believing that he will be a devoted high-repeat customer. Egos of ISGers shrouds reality because these contextual details often go unreported.

You mention that WGs are discussing pricing with you. Are your pricing discussion occurring outside the room. Do you bring up pricing subject first? Or do they?

I almost always discuss pricing and services upfront before I agree to session, especially at tourists clubs. Often it is abrupt and early in the conversation. So naturally some WGs will see this as a red flag. But most of the time I do not care. Because if I do not like their reaction then that is a red flag for me too.

[BullPenetrator]

I visited Mainhattan 3 days.

Very good service, nice girls and good value for money.

But day 1, I was at Sharks first.

With the attitude among most of the girls "for half an hour you will only get this and that", I did not went to any room.

This has never happened before!

The reason to the disastrous situation at Sharks (female-male ratio 1:6, non-existent service level and arrogant attitudes among girls) is STUPID herd behavior among clients.

I have read on this forum for a long time, but never reported.

I can only confirm what you write.

My visit this early autumn at Sharks was a disaster.

Attitudes among girls is even worse than in Amsterdam RLD.

I have never experienced such upselling in the rooms.

Kissing +50 Euro, BBBJ +100 Euro Anal +150 Euro, etc.

Ambient is phantastic. But a club will never be better than the greed among the girls.

This is perhaps the worst FKK-club in the whole Germany to visit at the moment.

[Arnold15]

Hope its better than it was 2 years ago otherwise I might be gay. Mainhatten is the only FKK I've visited where I left without a session.

I visited Mainhattan 3 days.

Very good service, nice girls and good value for money.

But day 1, I was at Sharks first.

With the attitude among most of the girls "for half an hour you will only get this and that", I did not went to any room.

This has never happened before!

The reason to the disastrous situation at Sharks (female-male ratio 1:6, non-existent service level and arrogant attitudes among girls) is STUPID herd behavior among clients.


And read this report about FKK Sharks once again, if you missed it:
"On a positive note, there were a lot of hot girls in Sharks. Forget the male to female ratio, I have never seen so many men in Sharks period. Almost every girl tried to upsell for BBBJ and refused to kiss. I am staying away until things settle down. Even the less attractive girls were driving a hard bargain. However I did think many men were not taking the bait and the girls looked very frustrated. Hopefully the tide will turn soon. I am staying away from the high profile clubs until 2022."

[Sirioja]

Hope its better than it was 2 years ago otherwise I might be gay. Mainhatten is the only FKK I've visited where I left without a session.

Mainhattan had real beauties years ago. Megan started at Mainhattan before moving to Sharks and Globe after. I tried my best looking everywhere when I didn't want to go to Sharks, but at 8. 30 pm, after searching for 8 hours, I gave up and moved to Sharks. Even not a good make up as I told her, but my eyes stopped to cry when seeing fresh full natural supermodel.

[Grebe925]

Hope its better than it was 2 years ago otherwise I might be gay. Mainhatten is the only FKK I've visited where I left without a session.

Used to visit Oase regularly whenever I was in Frankfurt on business and have had some great sessions (and a few not so good ones) there. Decided to visit Mainhattan once for variety but left very quickly due to too much rough looking talent, most of them with bolt-ons. Maybe I visited on a bad day but I just never went back.

[The Cane]

Hope its better than it was 2 years ago otherwise I might be gay. Mainhatten is the only FKK I've visited where I left without a session.

I have not sessioned at Mainhatten in years and years. I always went to check it out, but then normally left without a single session. Things finally got to the point where I stopped feeling like I was missing anything if I didn't even stop by to check it out. This was all before the pandemic. So, it's been awhile. I would check it out again now after all of this time. But, Mainhatten's track record with me is the worst among all the FKKs in the Frankfurt metro area, and indeed throughout all of Germany, with only FKK Sunshine in Munich being clearly worse. Sorry, but Mainhatten simply does not work for me.

[Turgid]

This is Bullshit.

Only a gay man fails to find a beauty at Mainhattan.

Line-up was very good.

Hope its better than it was 2 years ago otherwise I might be gay. Mainhatten is the only FKK I've visited where I left without a session.

[Sirioja]

So much upselling and no Asians! What will happen when Asians return. EUR 200 for 1 hour?

Few Asians are back, even not like on 2017/2019, so some girls are in lack of business. Prettiest like Melissa or Katalea ask for 100/30 or 150/60, not 200. If CIM, then can be 200. Some pretty and good and my best at Sharks who worked at Mainhattan before but no silicon, never talked about money, so I gave her 100/60 and we had 3 rooms like this. Had also 3 other 100/60 rooms with 3 different girls. My tip being to make cum girls and to repeat weekly when I enjoy in my mind.

[Sirioja]

This is Bullshit.

Only a gay man fails to find a beauty at Mainhattan.

Line-up was very good.

I would have preferred to find only 1 attractive natural look at Mainhattan for 100/60 rate rather than having to pay a second entry 65 on day when I already paid 45 for Mainhattan and didn't plan to go to my girls, but unfortunately for me, I'm gay about silicon, duck lips and cellulite, when even no elegant ex Mainhattan, no 185 supermodel Kelli, but my eyes smiled seeing super sexy Melissa and I had pleasure to repeat with my nearly 180 without heels full natural supermodel without silicon and who try to please me to make me return again. When I was often told to be FKK expert and once more on Saturday evening at Sharks, I always answered I can't be expert when I'm too different, but from my girls in FKK land, I'm a bit reference for beauty. If I went to ugly girls, I would maybe have less followers, I should try, but I would not be able to have sex with them. On Friday, also because I wanted to visit elsewhere than Sharks, I was at Prestige Neunkirchen I loved so much on end of 2013/ beginning of 2014 for superstar EMA. Ro. I found pretty face with beautiful big natural tits Clara, when I was really disappointed by very average face and lack of care for hair and I m pretty sure she has teeth brace, busy superstar Charlotte but at least smiling and no silicon, but really not a wow look compare to past Ema there. On this Sunday at Finca, 1 quite busy was a small brunette with tattoo above ass and also very average face, not at all attractive for me even also smiling, compare to much prettier but not kissing Melina, so not for me. Only 1 attractive girl at Prestige, 0 for nearly 8 hours at Mainhattan, no room at Finca when could only go with Melina but not without kissing, just my level of expectation when had 15 rooms with 6 different girls at Sharks on this Summer, 8 with a supermodel and 3 with elegant ex Mainhattan. Full natural with curves but no cellulite Angelina was also good with best DT BJ, but I won't repeat.

[Arnold15]

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[Sirioja]

As a comparison:

Ratio was 1:1,5 last Friday evening at Mainhattan.

And no upselling.

Plenty of nice girls to choose between.

The situation at Sharks with bad female-male ratio and huge upselling occurs due to "HERD BEHAVIOR" among mongers.

All mongers run to the same place at the same time.

I planned to let recovering my 2 Sharks regulars on this week end. I was at Mainhattan on this Saturday from 1 pm to 8.30 pm, to take no risk to miss a beauty there, but couldn't find any worthing to pay for among so many silicon and cellulite, but as I told I ate good and a lot. So I decided a challenge: Balkanian night game at Sharks. Arrived at 9 pm, easy to park just in front, flexible staff for control. Once again, my full natural elegant ex Mainhattan was not working, becoming a bit too complicated for me, but full natural supermodel needed to know why I took 3 weeks break about her. I decided to have my eighth 1 hour room with her since her arrival on 9 July. I pay for this level of look I don t even see at Globe since a long while. Had good sex with Angelina. Ro at Sharks, Lea. Bu at Wellcum, Silvia at Mystic. At, but after room, looking at them, I felt I wasted my money paying for such level of look, even not bad look, Angelina is quite busy at Sharks, Lea very busy at Wellcum where she is far higher average level, but no dream in my mind so waste of money when I don t pay to empty my balls. Hard job for bar staff to get Balkanians having mask on when moving, when most of them are fat and I doubt for vaccinated. No competition between Sharks even not so good than on July and Mainhattan for looks.

[Arnold15]

So much upselling and no Asians! What will happen when Asians return. EUR 200 for 1 hour?

As a comparison:

Ratio was 1:1,5 last Friday evening at Mainhattan.

And no upselling.

Plenty of nice girls to choose between.

The situation at Sharks with bad female-male ratio and huge upselling occurs due to "HERD BEHAVIOR" among mongers.

All mongers run to the same place at the same time.

[Turgid]

On a positive note, there were a lot of hot girls in Sharks. Forget the male to female ratio, I have never seen so many men in Sharks period. Almost every girl tried to upsell for BBBJ and refused to kiss. I am staying away until things settle down. Even the less attractive girls were driving a hard bargain. However I did think many men were not taking the bait and the girls looked very frustrated. Hopefully the tide will turn soon. I am staying away from the high profile clubs until 2022.

So much upselling and no Asians! What will happen when Asians return. EUR 200 for 1 hour?