Rants, Stupid Shit and Coronavirus in Thailand

[Mr Enternational]

The Thai government will respond according to how COVID progresses and nobody knows how COVID will progress.

That has shit to do with shit. I am in the Dominican Republic where no test or vaccine is required to enter. Ain't a myriad of tourists coming here spreading covid around or falling out in the street and needing the government to care for them because they did not get the covid insurance. It is the same in Colombia. These folks are dummies.

[HorseTrader]

But sometimes there are enough bits and pieces of mounting evidence that some of these entertainment venue owners, operators and interests have been tipped off about a move that is more firm than usual even before it is made available for public consumption.

Even with inside information, it's a crapshoot. The Thai government will respond according to how COVID progresses and nobody knows how COVID will progress. We also dont know how customers and workers will respond to whatever future health may become.

[Kurredut]

For me, TF was at its peak (for regular girls, not PFP) around 2010-2013 and declined afterwards, slowly but noticeably.

No idea about the reasons, I can only speculate. Perhaps it has to do with demographics, average age in Thailand rose from 35 in 2010 to 40 in 2020, so there are fewer young women. For me, 40 is when the good and cuteness looks of most Thai women decline, although there are exceptions. snip.

I feel the same about the decline of TF. Up to 2017 I was still able to harvest few Line IDs of working girls but converting TF ladies to bed companions has not worked for me after that. I tried WeChat in 2019 but got replies mostly from tall ladies with big hands. I have used past 15 months building up my Facebook friend list but like you said, aside from obvious bar girls the interest of the younger generation in farangs seem to have waned considerably. I use fake pictures in my FB account so it is not due me being bald, 40 kg overweight, miserable old man.

I have ten times more Messenger activity with young FB friends from Philippines than from Thailand. Maybe it is also a language barrier issue.

[EihTooms]

"By Dec 1, we will also consider allowing the consumption of alcoholic beverages in restaurants as well as the operation of entertainment venues under appropriate health precautions to support the revitalization of the tourism and leisure sectors, especially the new year period," Prayut said.

By now you should know to read that quote more carefully "consider allowing" are the key words. Nothing is set in stone until the Royal Gazette prints it and it can all change in an instant, like it has been in the past year with everything they say. Clearly this is a marketing ploy because there is absolutely no mention to what happens to vaccinated arrivals who test positive after they land. This has been the case since Thailand reopened their airports. People testing negative on departure, but positive on arrival. Imagine the backlash when they do, do not carry insurance (like backpackers), and get forced quarantined even if they are fully vaccinated and have no symptoms, and are forced to pay out of pocket. And they aren't even sick.
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Yes, I am with you on the fact that things can change in an hour. That is why I posted the report without comment, just FYI to anyone looking for positive signs.

But sometimes there are enough bits and pieces of mounting evidence that some of these entertainment venue owners, operators and interests have been tipped off about a move that is more firm than usual even before it is made available for public consumption.

I have mentioned signs of life in terms of renovation and sprucing up of some go-go bars and beer bars lately. Well, this week I am seeing more of it.

And I dare say it appears to me there are several more restaurants and "entertainment venues" in the area (not go-go bars yet) that juuuust might be jumping the gun on the moves cited in that report by 3-7 weeks as though they don't expect much hassle or penalty at all for their eagerness to get up and running.

Btw, "marketing" for what if it isn't for travelers and tourists to start firing up to book flights and rooms on the premise that there will be plenty for them to do and spend money on when they arrive other than time in a quarantine hotel or hospital care and medical staff?

[RacShack]

"By Dec 1, we will also consider allowing the consumption of alcoholic beverages in restaurants as well as the operation of entertainment venues under appropriate health precautions to support the revitalization of the tourism and leisure sectors, especially the new year period," Prayut said.

By now you should know to read that quote more carefully "consider allowing" are the key words. Nothing is set in stone until the Royal Gazette prints it and it can all change in an instant, like it has been in the past year with everything they say. Clearly this is a marketing ploy because there is absolutely no mention to what happens to vaccinated arrivals who test positive after they land. This has been the case since Thailand reopened their airports. People testing negative on departure, but positive on arrival. Imagine the backlash when they do, do not carry insurance (like backpackers), and get forced quarantined even if they are fully vaccinated and have no symptoms, and are forced to pay out of pocket. And they aren't even sick.

"Another problem with the program has been the policy requiring that travelers who test positive, or who are traveling with someone who tests positive, be transferred from their hotel to a health care facility and kept in strict quarantine for up to 14 days at their own expense. This has led to the mandatory quarantine of tourists who were sitting near an infectious passenger on their flight to Phuket."

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/04/w...uarantine.html

[EihTooms]

Alcohol sales, other entertainment venues to be allowed by Dec 1.
PUBLISHED: 11 OCT 2021.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/business...risk-countries

Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha said on Monday that he will push for the opening up of the country to fully vaccinated foreign tourists from at least 10 countries on Nov 1, as the government earlier planned.

Gen Prayut said in a nationally televised broadcast that fully vaccinated tourists from at least 10 low-risk countries would be allowed to enter Thailand by air with no quarantine requirements.

The prime minister named the United Kingdom, Singapore, Germany, China and the United States among the first group of countries to benefit from the move.

"I have instructed the CCSA and the Ministry of Public Health to urgently consider within this week to allow, as of Nov 1, international visitors to enter Thailand without any requirement for quarantine if they are fully vaccinated and arrive by air from low-risk countries," he said.

He pledged to open the gates for more countries by Dec 1 and targeted others by Jan 1.

Tourists from countries not on the low-risk list would be allowed but they would be required to quarantine, he added.

The announcement came after other countries including Singapore and Australia eased travel restrictions for their citizens to travel overseas.

Gen Prayut hoped the decision to open up the country next month would draw foreign tourists to Thailand over the next three months, including the forthcoming year-end holidays.

They would revitalise the sector and related businesses that involved millions of people in the country, he went on.

The government had earlier planned to open only Bangkok and several provinces for foreign tourists on Nov 1. The other provinces are Chon Buri (Pattaya city, Bang Lamung district, and Sattahip district), Phetchaburi (Cha-am district), Prachuap Khiri Khan (Hua Hin district) and Chiang Mai (Muang, Mae Taeng, Mae Rim and Doi Tao districts).

Monday's announcement indicated that the reopening would cover all parts of the country.

The announcement came after the country saw the number of fatalities drop below 100 in recent days, with new cases hovering around 10,000.

Although the situation was improving in most parts of Thailand, a surge of new infections continued in Narathiwat, Pattani, Songkhla and Yala. The southern border provinces were in the spotlight of health authorities who were mulling additional measures to clamp down on the spike in the areas.

Tourism was the main sector driving the economy before the pandemic floored the industry last year. The sector accounted for about 20% of gross domestic product if both local tourists and foreign arrivals were counted. Revenue from foreign tourists alone was about 15% of GDP, as the country welcomed almost 40 million travellers from abroad, especially Chinese.

The Bank of Thailand estimated only 200,000 foreign arrivals this year with the number jumping to 6 million next year.

Restrictions eased for alcohol sales

The prime minister said the government will allow restaurants and other places to sell alcohol by Dec 1 to promote tourism and the entertainment sector as people plan to celebrate the new year.

"By Dec 1, we will also consider allowing the consumption of alcoholic beverages in restaurants as well as the operation of entertainment venues under appropriate health precautions to support the revitalisation of the tourism and leisure sectors, especially the new year period," he said.

[RacShack]

His fantasy posts are of no value. You can block his posts, as I have.

Wow, thanks bud I'm going to block him and see if that works before I completely give up on site itself (very close) is their anyway to come together and everyone blocks or ignore him for good, I've seen very valuable members on here just completely give up and not return, its a shame! Not making sense at all I've got infraction for asking if rules have changed on here because he even gets away with posting and bragging about known bars where ladyboys work, witch in past was not allowed and got infractions for just asking about, weird!

[Nixonbd]

Get real dude, nibody believes this shit.

Johnie.

His fantasy posts are of no value. You can block his posts, as I have.

[Johnie]

I went down to the first floor to pick up a lady who was coming to drink, and saw a really hot lady walking around the lobby, wearing a face mask, of course. I thought some guy got really lucky today. Oops, it was the lady I came down to pick up.

There was a second lady, a silicon enhanced MILF. They didn't know each other previously. They do now. After a few drinks, one was literally begging for dick. Apparently some guy had barfined her for a few days, but didn't pay enough to fuck her, so she was a little randy. Anyway she got dick, but never came, so she left looking for a man in LK Metro.

I forgot to mention that yesterday I had two top tier ladies come over for drinks, and eventually, we got around to playing on the sofa. One lady straddled me and fucked my mouth while the other lady blew me. After about 10 minutes, my tongue gave out, and I pulled the lady down. They didn't miss a beat, they just switched positions, and the other lady started fucking my mouth.

After a while, one of the ladies laid back, and I held up her leg to expose her pussy and finger fucked her, ie my hands were full. No matter, the other lady started making out with her, and helped me out.

There were two other ladies who showed up yesterday, one in the early afternoon, the other an overnighter. Lots of fun.

Get real dude, nibody believes this shit.

Johnie.

[Crocodilexp]

I can answer that one.

Thaifriendly is probably now the least popular of the dating sites (doesn't mean it's bad), followed by Thaicupid (which some girls like because you need to pay to access / respond so it weeds out the cheapstakes).

It's all been replaced by the god-of-all apps = Tinder.

Don't know about ThaiCupid, but quality on Tinder has been absolutely dismal in terms of quality in 2019 (I haven't looked since).

Tinder has an enormous percentage of ladyboys classified as girls, as well as plastic-looking women. Last time I tried, I found maybe 1 out of 20 profiles anywhere close to interesting, and I'm not picky when it comes to looks, just want somebody looking roughly "normal" and "girl next door", without a fake plastic vibe.

ThaiFriendly is way, way better, even in its diminished state compared to several years ago.

[Houston Player]

I can answer that one.

Thaifriendly is probably now the least popular of the dating sites (doesn't mean it's bad), followed by Thaicupid (which some girls like because you need to pay to access / respond so it weeds out the cheapstakes).

It's all been replaced by the god-of-all apps = Tinder.

It's full of young pretty girls but most are either looking for P4 P or young guys. I do pretty well but it's a long game and tourists have very low chances to score these coffe-shop hoppers, instagram young junkies.

I've been doing a few of them but they're really not my type, they treat you like a glorified photographer and they're not the best in the sack either.

Some young girls just as soon as you match, ask for your LINE (a must for communication) and send you 20 nudes with the caption: 2,000 thb for 2 hours and 1 shot.

I tend to ignore anything below 27 28, that way I get girls that are fairly serious about wanting to just hook-up, can hold somewhat of a conversation and are more fun in bed (if it gets there).

Many of these girls have been burned before, one-night-stands, Friends with benefits, stock investments. They are wary of guys so it takes a bit longer to get them on your side of the fence, but it's possible.

If you're looking for a little less stunning girls, badoo is worth a try, I have pulled a few girls from there and all ended up in bed without a lot of convincing. Just need to be treated with respect.

I stick to my few rotation of girls now and a bit out the dating app game, but I'm sure you can find what you're looking for in Tinder.

One word of advice, I bought their premium for one week and it was the biggest waste, girls they say were interested in you were not really and it's all made to look like there's lots of girls that like you but you can't see them unless you pay.

You can fare just as well with the free option: have an interesting profile name, good photos, fun photos and an interesting Bio. Fun photos are the most crucial, it shows the girls there can be a good time to be had with you. And Sanook is what these girls love.

In my opinion TF is by far the best. Much better than Tinder, hit rate is 10 to 1 over Tinder for older guys. If I send 10 TF messages I get responses on 7. If I like 10 Tinder profiles I get matched 1 time.

[NicFrenchy]

You are a qualified person to ask the following question. Before I ask, I first joined TF around 2015 and was amazed at the quantity of beautiful women. But my first trip was to BKK in 2017 and then three trips to Phuket in 2019. I noticed in 2019 that the quantity of beautiful women on TF decreased tremendously compared to my experience in 2015. Any idea what is the cause?

I can answer that one.

Thaifriendly is probably now the least popular of the dating sites (doesn't mean it's bad), followed by Thaicupid (which some girls like because you need to pay to access / respond so it weeds out the cheapstakes).

It's all been replaced by the god-of-all apps = Tinder.

It's full of young pretty girls but most are either looking for P4 P or young guys. I do pretty well but it's a long game and tourists have very low chances to score these coffe-shop hoppers, instagram young junkies.

I've been doing a few of them but they're really not my type, they treat you like a glorified photographer and they're not the best in the sack either.

Some young girls just as soon as you match, ask for your LINE (a must for communication) and send you 20 nudes with the caption: 2,000 thb for 2 hours and 1 shot.

I tend to ignore anything below 27 28, that way I get girls that are fairly serious about wanting to just hook-up, can hold somewhat of a conversation and are more fun in bed (if it gets there).

Many of these girls have been burned before, one-night-stands, Friends with benefits, stock investments. They are wary of guys so it takes a bit longer to get them on your side of the fence, but it's possible.

If you're looking for a little less stunning girls, badoo is worth a try, I have pulled a few girls from there and all ended up in bed without a lot of convincing. Just need to be treated with respect.

I stick to my few rotation of girls now and a bit out the dating app game, but I'm sure you can find what you're looking for in Tinder.

One word of advice, I bought their premium for one week and it was the biggest waste, girls they say were interested in you were not really and it's all made to look like there's lots of girls that like you but you can't see them unless you pay.

You can fare just as well with the free option: have an interesting profile name, good photos, fun photos and an interesting Bio. Fun photos are the most crucial, it shows the girls there can be a good time to be had with you. And Sanook is what these girls love.

[Crocodilexp]

You are a qualified person to ask the following question. Before I ask, I first joined TF around 2015 and was amazed at the quantity of beautiful women. But my first trip was to BKK in 2017 and then three trips to Phuket in 2019. I noticed in 2019 that the quantity of beautiful women on TF decreased tremendously compared to my experience in 2015. Any idea what is the cause?

For me, TF was at its peak (for regular girls, not PFP) around 2010-2013 and declined afterwards, slowly but noticeably.

No idea about the reasons, I can only speculate. Perhaps it has to do with demographics, average age in Thailand rose from 35 in 2010 to 40 in 2020, so there are fewer young women. For me, 40 is when the good and cuteness looks of most Thai women decline, although there are exceptions.

Farang tend to be less popular among younger Thais as well. Once upon a time each one of us was assumed to be rich and a potential great catch, even the older folks without much going for them. Now it's more of "meh, maybe".

Last, but not least, I hate the 3 trends of thick drawn-on eyebrows, tattoos or fake noses. Most Thai women on TF have at least one these days. When it comes to Thai women, I always loved the simple, sweet, and friendly vibe. They were never too good at the sex-bomb, 100% dolled up, hot high-maintenance kind of style, it ends up fake and ugly. The 3 trends kill their key strength. Maybe someone prefers this new look, but it's not for me.

Among normal girls online, the eagerness to jump in bed has declined as well. It's not exactly hard (compared to the west), but I feel that since about 2014 I had to "work for it" more than before, and a higher percentage of contacts or fist dates don't go anywhere.

Don't get me wrong, TF is still a goldmine, relative to any dating sites in the west.

[Vendelo]

When it comes to mongering, the supply of girls in Thailand has thinned out considerably between 2010 and 2019, to the point that it was already a shadow of its former self. After the pandemic, it will not go back to the 2019 levels, and plenty of girls will be turned off by the health risks.

You are a qualified person to ask the following question. Before I ask, I first joined TF around 2015 and was amazed at the quantity of beautiful women. But my first trip was to BKK in 2017 and then three trips to Phuket in 2019. I noticed in 2019 that the quantity of beautiful women on TF decreased tremendously compared to my experience in 2015. Any idea what is the cause?

[PedroMorales]

This is awfully pessimistic, but you're not fundamentally wrong. Travel restrictions are going to be relaxed at a glacial pace, and the world might not get back to where it was in 2019 for a long, long time. Even now, most of us can go somewhere, sometimes with somewhat bearable conditions (like a PCR test), but the age of just a few clicks to book and hopping on a plane to virtually anywhere without a worry if you'll be able to move onward are over.

When it comes to mongering, the supply of girls in Thailand has thinned out considerably between 2010 and 2019, to the point that it was already a shadow of its former self. After the pandemic, it will not go back to the 2019 levels, and plenty of girls will be turned off by the health risks.

Some cultures tend to mostly ignore Covid despite the death toll, but Thailand isn't among them, they developed a massive paranoia surrounding the disease, although they got out relatively lightly so far. If the HIV scare put a damper on our hobby in Thailand, Covid will be 100 x worse, since effects are immediate, you can easily transmit it to family, and protection way more difficult. The authorities won't be too eager to support the naughty nightlife scene re-building (we're well beyond re-opening now, most venues are gone) and might use the opportunity to kill off most of it for good.

Even (especially?) in Europe, there is too much demand to show an array of papers. Countries are moved from green to red and back again in a blink, sinking any hope of making plans. I am off on my travels in a few days. I checked requirements countless times but I have only discovered I need another Covid test and another paper. There is a bigger game afoot here and we are all the collateral damage.

Your post is good. Check out the Philippines pages. Pathetic pictures of pussies, growth "models" that would warrant a straight fail in any school and endless links without context. The Dutch chick I follow has a purpose, as all travel should.

I watch Pattaya videos. Wall to wall vagabonds and Thai and farang tear assing on walks up and down the promenade like they are prisoners let out for an hour or so.

When the tourist dust settles, SE Asia will be well dowen the big boys' list, fighting for tourist crumb with the lockdown paradise of Australia.

If a newer model emerges, it will not be for God fearing mongers like us but more for the packaged tour top dollar lot. The freedom and anarchy are gone.