Seeking Arrangements

[TheManager]

Are you guys actually finding 9-10's OR just young pussy that's marginally better than generic prostitutes?

Check out this post I wrote on this very topic recently: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...ents&p=2607734#post2607734.

[DramaFree11]

Took my SB to a nice restaurant the staff kept saying my full name. We have your reservation Mr. Xxx. Thank you for coming Mr. XXX. They think we expect that as respect. But I would rather be anon.

Unless you create a whole other identity, it is very hard to stay anon. The first thing you do is pay in cash and don't expect change. Make reservations under plausible aliases.

Yep, if you are concerned about your identity I would not be on SA.

[KaveMan]

I was referred here thanks to Steve9696 from Swiss Globe Thread.

So, I have a fairly technical question about fuck yield on SA v. $ dollars invested. I was under the impression that SA was a glorified prostitution site where you have to cough up $500 to fuck muffin top college-drop-outs. From reading the posts it sounds like its turned into a mainstream dating site for gold-diggers.

As background, from 2010-2014 I ran a sex-search campaign on a major dating site (see 20014 intro post) before age filters, AI, blocking, etc. I had outbound 18,000+ messages / yr. With 15 cut / paste messages 3 x / day. I was booked Thur-Sun. With 45 min. Cocktail dates ($25); 200+ dates / yr. And fucked 24 on first date back to my apartment 1 block away. Now granted I am white-collar, fit and had a panty dropper apartment in SoHo and Hollywood Hills loft; these girls were happy to fuck with $1 margaritas and a $3. 99 Trader-Giotto pizza. I got 18-25 8-10's, models, dancers, Hollywood actresses, porn stars, etc. Then boom the numbers dropped from 24-12-6-1 from 2015-2021 as Tinder, IG, filters, blocking, AI took hold.

Today this is impossible as every dating site has filters, AI, and throttles messages / day to <5 even though sent shows 50. I know I was flagged in top. 01% of users as last cancellation refund had email CC'd: of my last 10 fake-emails over a decade; even with changes in names, cards, paypal, IP, address, etc. My rocker neighbor in Hollywood swore by SA with Premium; but I had birds eye view between our glass lofts and they were all minority 6-7's tops and he was dropping $10,000's.

I am happy to join SA, if I can run a numbers game and whittle it down to nympho 9-10's who want to be fucked hard AND are flexible on benefits. If its all filters and throttling and am stuck talking to muffin tops at Starbucks then I will pass.

Are you guys actually finding 9-10's OR just young pussy that's marginally better than generic prostitutes?

Reason I switched to Swiss Globe, was I happy to pay $150 for18-25 9-11's in Zurich and spend rest of my time on business and investments.

[Akibono]

Took my SB to a nice restaurant the staff kept saying my full name. We have your reservation Mr. Xxx. Thank you for coming Mr. XXX. They think we expect that as respect. But I would rather be anon.

Unless you create a whole other identity, it is very hard to stay anon. The first thing you do is pay in cash and don't expect change. Make reservations under plausible aliases.

[Midwestern]

Elvis had made a great checklist questions about SBs, to which DramaFree made some excellent additions. For fun, I decided to answer them from my own experiences with SBs from using SA in the USA.

Text and call you unsolicited, asking for nothing. They just want to wish you a good day and see how your doing. - Yep, this happened with almost all of my SBs.

Drive you around in there car. - Yep. In fact, when I lived in SF, I did not have a car, and so most of my SBs did all of the driving.

Buy you gifts. - Yep, and they were amazingly quite thoughtful gifts, but obviously nothing expensive since they could not afford it.

Fuck me bare. - Yep, almost always.

Cook me meals. Yep, but only a few. Most wanted me to wine and dine them, which was one of the reasons they were on SA.

Introduce me to their friends or family. - Yep, but I did not like it, LOL. Also, the question of how we met will always come up.

Did my laundry. - Nope.

Pack my suitcase. - Yep.

Cry when I left. - Nope. But most were genuinely sad when I left.

Tell me they love me and mean it. - Yep, but this was always scary.

Slept in my room with wallet out open to the world. - Kind of. I kept money out in the open, but I always tried to hide my wallet.

Massage my neck the whole time on a 2 hour drive. - Nope, but that's because I rarely drove, LOL.

Do whatever I ask for in the bed room. - Yep, but most pros do that too, especially if they think repeat business or a review is possible.

Whine if they do not get it 3 X a day. - Yep, but this did not happen often.

Not ask for money after sex. - Yep, most of my SBs never asked for money, but it was always assumed that I would take care of them, and I did, which is why they never asked.

Sleep with one guy. - Yep, some of my SBs were exclusive with me. I am pretty sure of it. But I am also sure that some slept with other guys, even though they said they did not.

Run across a crowded airport with a huge smile and jump into my arms when they first see me. - Yep.

[Steve 9696]

Yeah, nice add DF. You know #2 cracks me up because the one time I remember that happening is in Brazil with a girl I picked up at a boate, I think it was Bamboa or Cafe Foto. Anyway, she drove me in a small VW I think a Golf, back to my hotel.

She stayed the night, and it was very nice, very GF / SB like.

I kind of noticed that with Brazilian women. An American guy in Brazil told me that relationships move 8 X faster in Brazil than the USA.

Steve, I know you had a SB like romp with a girl from Scandallo. A lot of the working girls can morph into SB types pretty quickly right? I had that happen with a friend of mine too. One night with a boate girl and he was almost in love and vice versa.

Yeah so I haven't had quite the "love" that Elvis gets and DramaFree but I think that's cultural. Almost all my SB is US based and they are just not like Brasileiras. Don't get me wrong I have almost always found my US girls to be sweet, real girls, not hardened pros (maybe only 1 or 2 out of 25 were serious pros) but not the same as a Brasileira.

As I say Brasileiras can live in the moment better than any girls on earth. And they seem to love all the extra time together way more than "regular" girls. My first Scandallo girl we did 2 hrs in the club before the room. And she sooo wanted me to go to the beach w her friend and her in the morning. And yes Elvis, Thifany was amazing. Not a hardened pro. Just a girl who does Scandalo when she needs cash sometimes. We had known each other five hours (including fucking her one on one and then in a dupla with her friend) when she agreed to spend the week in London with me. Who the fuck just flies off to London with some guy they barely know! A Brasileira- Thats who! And it was the first stamp in her passport! And had her 23rd birthday with me at Chichettis in London. Only a Brasileira!

[Elvis 2008]

Awesome report. You forgot a couple:

1. Text and call you unsolicited, asking for nothing. They just want to wish you a good day and see how your doing.

2. Drive you around in there car.

3. Buy you gifts.

SA is very average at best in the states, but as you know in Latin America and other parts of the world SA rocks.

Mexico / Russia Rocks. Ukraine / MDE suck.

Yeah, nice add DF. You know #2 cracks me up because the one time I remember that happening is in Brazil with a girl I picked up at a boate, I think it was Bamboa or Cafe Foto. Anyway, she drove me in a small VW I think a Golf, back to my hotel.

She stayed the night, and it was very nice, very GF / SB like.

I kind of noticed that with Brazilian women. An American guy in Brazil told me that relationships move 8 X faster in Brazil than the USA.

Steve, I know you had a SB like romp with a girl from Scandallo. A lot of the working girls can morph into SB types pretty quickly right? I had that happen with a friend of mine too. One night with a boate girl and he was almost in love and vice versa.

[DramaFree11]

I have met / fucked probably north of 25 girls off SA, and not a single one cooked for me, did my laundry, packed my suitcase, cried when I left or did other stuff that only real girlfriends do. Very few fucked me bare though. Therefore I assume they were all prostitutes. Which makes me believe that the majority of SA women are prostitutes, not real SBs. But I still would prefer SA prostitute over a regular working girl (street, casa, etc) because they provide way better service.

That is the point. Maybe you are doing something wrong. Obviously you have a good budget and freedom to travel. I have had many of the same experiences Elvis has. He is on lockdown with one girl and is traveling with her, I am seeing multiple girls. Some of the girls would do anything for me and I would do the same. Call it whatever you want, but the pros far outweigh the negative experiences.

I Did have a negative experience, today. Against my better judgement I was going to fly a girl into MTY. Purchased the ticket and she went dark. We were suppose to discuss the trip last night, I heard nothing. I sent her a message this morning, again heard nothing. Finally I blocked her and canceled my credit card, I might lose s few bucks and some time, but it was time to cut my losses. She finally texted me late this morning, I deleted the text and blocked her. Something was definitely up.

The 2 biggest mistakes I have made with girls in other cities that wanted to fly in and could speak English. Lost money and time on the first one. Hopefully just time on the second one.

[MiamiBoy1]

Sigh.

Do prostitutes fuck you bare?

Do prostitutes cook you meals?

Do prostitutes introduce you to their friends or family?

Do prostitutes do your laundry?

Do prostitutes pack your suitcase?

Do prostitutes cry when you leave?

Do prostitutes tell you they love you and mean it?

Do you sleep in your room with prostitutes and leave your wallet out open to the world?

Do prostitutes massage your neck the whole time on a 2 hour drive?

Do prostitutes do whatever you ask for in the bed room?

Do prostitutes whine if they do not get it 3 X a day?

Do prostitutes not ask for money after sex?

Do prostitutes ever just sleep with one guy?

Do prostitutes run across a crowded airport with a huge smile and jump into your arms when they first see you?

Everyone here has been with prostitutes. We know what they are. Sure, there are times we all have gone for a sugar baby and she turned out to be a prostitute. It happens. The women do not come with signs. They fool us or we fool ourselves.

But the reason I went the SB route (and I think others here went that way too) is that sex with prostitutes got old. I wanted someone to stay with me after sex and did not want to get paid X hundreds of dollars to do so. I wanted the pleasure of a woman' s company as much as I wanted her sexually.

What you do not get is the best SB sex blows away the best sex with prostitutes so laugh all you want. To me you just do not know what you are missing.

I have met / fucked probably north of 25 girls off SA, and not a single one cooked for me, did my laundry, packed my suitcase, cried when I left or did other stuff that only real girlfriends do. Very few fucked me bare though. Therefore I assume they were all prostitutes. Which makes me believe that the majority of SA women are prostitutes, not real SBs. But I still would prefer SA prostitute over a regular working girl (street, casa, etc) because they provide way better service.

[DramaFree11]

Sigh.

Do prostitutes fuck you bare?

Do prostitutes cook you meals?

Do prostitutes introduce you to their friends or family?

Do prostitutes do your laundry?

Do prostitutes pack your suitcase?

Do prostitutes cry when you leave?.

Awesome report. You forgot a couple:

1. Text and call you unsolicited, asking for nothing. They just want to wish you a good day and see how your doing.

2. Drive you around in there car.

3. Buy you gifts.

SA is very average at best in the states, but as you know in Latin America and other parts of the world SA rocks.

Mexico / Russia Rocks. Ukraine / MDE suck.

[Blue Swede]

Some Swedish banks and card issuers have SA blocked for purchases. Nordea should be fine but SEB has them blacklisted. I tried buying a subscription once with Eurobonus Mastercard which resulted in the card being temporarily blocked.

I tried using SkandiaBanken, Kivra, Volvo cards. None of them passed. I then used a Android phone and started a subscription via Google Play, which worked for a couple of month, until now. Money was transfered from my bank account, but the subscription wasn't updated. .

I have contacted Seeking twice via the contact form, but no answer so far (4-5 days).

I have also claimed for cancellation of the transaction to Google Play, as the product I bought was never delivered.

I don't know what to do else?

[Blue Swede]

Sent you a private message, hope I can help.

It helped a lot, I send you a big Thank you also here!

[Elvis 2008]

It's really funny how upset some of you guys are getting.

I said the women on these sites are worse than prostitutes because prostitutes are at least honest about who they are and what's happening.

If guys want to fool themselves into believing that they're seducing incredible women and that they're really only giving "gifts" instead of a fee, that's their (unfortunate and sad) business. But the rest of us are free to laugh at the absurdity of it.

As I said earlier, stop paying and see how long any of these "relationships" last.

Sigh.

Do prostitutes fuck you bare?

Do prostitutes cook you meals?

Do prostitutes introduce you to their friends or family?

Do prostitutes do your laundry?

Do prostitutes pack your suitcase?

Do prostitutes cry when you leave?

Do prostitutes tell you they love you and mean it?

Do you sleep in your room with prostitutes and leave your wallet out open to the world?

Do prostitutes massage your neck the whole time on a 2 hour drive?

Do prostitutes do whatever you ask for in the bed room?

Do prostitutes whine if they do not get it 3 X a day?

Do prostitutes not ask for money after sex?

Do prostitutes ever just sleep with one guy?

Do prostitutes run across a crowded airport with a huge smile and jump into your arms when they first see you?

Everyone here has been with prostitutes. We know what they are. Sure, there are times we all have gone for a sugar baby and she turned out to be a prostitute. It happens. The women do not come with signs. They fool us or we fool ourselves.

But the reason I went the SB route (and I think others here went that way too) is that sex with prostitutes got old. I wanted someone to stay with me after sex and did not want to get paid X hundreds of dollars to do so. I wanted the pleasure of a woman' s company as much as I wanted her sexually.

What you do not get is the best SB sex blows away the best sex with prostitutes so laugh all you want. To me you just do not know what you are missing.

[Elvis 2008]

P.S. Damn the guy advising against bareback has fucked three different girls bareback this month! WTF happened to that dude? LOL.

Steve, the plan b pills are available over the counter. You just have to ask to buy them from the pharmacist. You can get them cheaper on line. I would just give them to a girl when I was done barebacking and say "This is so you do not get pregnant," and they always took them.

[Midwestern]

Great report, man. Yeah, every once in a while, you can hit a homerun on SA.

And yeah, always being on the prowl is a good idea. I met this great gal a few months ago. She had a great body and she loved fucking me, and we could fuck for hours. I thought my lust for her was going to last for at least a year. But after about three months, I have lost interest in her. A decade ago, if I found a hottie, I could fuck her almost every day for about a year. But as I have gotten older, I now get bored faster. So, always got to keep looking, even if you have a great starting lineup and a deep bench.

So I have my local girl Sue who is sweet and goofy and barebacked me on our most recent date. But she's fat and pokes me for money, so I am always on the prowl for something better. Usually leads no where, but out of the blue I hit a home run.

Struck up a conversation with a girl with a hot chest, unknown total bod, and a pretty plain Jane face. But she's fun to chat with and quick to meetup. Says she's a medical student. Of course I think this is BS but turns out to be totally true.

During chat she's pretty darn straightforward as to why we are here. Like asking if we are going to my place or a hotel. Hahaha. And then on the way to the date she says I should bring my own condoms case hers don't fit. LOL. Ok not much pretense here.

So she shows up a bit late but gentleman that I am I have a drink waiting and damn she's MUCH prettier than her pics. Beautiful smile and dressed quite slutty. Dinner is actually amazing. She is a great conversationalist and clearly well educated. Her father is a doctor and she's lived in London, the Caribbean and Hawaii. At 25 you would think this is BS but every word is true and the pics to prove it (after sex stay tuned!)

After dinner we walk to the convenience store and get some Palomas in cans and a Juul for her. And rock on to the room. Like this girls style. Because she sits in the bed and gives me the come hither look. I join on the bed and am about to kiss her when she hikes up her leather skirt and has no panties on and a beautiful pussy on display. So I dive in and start working that some. Then some kissing. I get my pants off and she is on her knees doggie style on the bed and starts a great BJ -me standing. Very nice. I work her pussy from behind some by hand. It's nice but not really wet yet.

Before long she turns around doggie style and is clearly offering bareback despite her prior condom comment! I say baby you want me to get a condom and she says up to you. Just don't come inside me. OK babe I am a man of my word!

She's really not that wet on her pussy lips so I say let me work you some more first babe and she rolls on her back. I do some pretty credible DATY and she says "I like fingers too!" So I work in one and then two and give her a pretty good finger fuck working clit with thumb. Ok we wet now!

Fucking in my fave position FOREVER including bend over kissing while pumping. So fine. Then a drinks break. Then I Lay on my back thinking she will finish by mouth but nope she mounts up RCG and rides like a demon. At one point I have to pull out so as to not cum. Then back inside for some more. And damn prob best RCG I've ever had. I don't want to really cum by hand so i let it build for a while then put her on BJ. I musta backed quite a ways from the edge because it takes a lotta BJ but she stays at it with some hand on balls and I shoot a mega load. She starts to take it all but I guess it's too much and she runs to the bathroom to spit saying she didn't expect so much.

Some nice but somewhat perfunctory cuddles and pics surfing after and a parting kiss. She's not a super affectionate cuddly girl but she's smart as fuck, hot, and loves to fuck bareback. Sounds like a keeper to me! We def gonna repeat.

P.S. Damn the guy advising against bareback has fucked three different girls bareback this month! WTF happened to that dude? LOL.