General Reports

[Jackie888]

Mexican culture is different from the USA. It's more of a "feudal" society (although it's changing rapidly) and the "richer" person is expected to "help" the poorer person. Noblesse oblige. You don't do something as crude as saying Hi, want to screw for $100? You talk and flirt and do what you'd normally do to pick up the girl. At some point she may mention help with the rent. Or, she may not. But you, at some point, would ask if they need assistance with bills, or whatever. They do not consider it prostitution, and offering them money for sex would piss off many of them. Maybe it's a rose by another name, but it pays big dividends to be culturally sensitive. I help all of my civvie GFs when I see them. The amount varies, NONE of them consider it P4 P, and all of them are very happy to have the help.

Yeah. I think that this is a big cultural misunderstanding, and we often wrongly typecast the chicas as gold diggers. It's not just us guys expected to help out the chicas financially. It's also the club chicas expected to give money to their moms, brothers, sisters, cousins, and even friends in distress. And from my personal experience at least, when you decline to help where you can help, they go ape shit. It took me a long time and a lot of misunderstandings to figure the Mexican culture out regarding help etiquette.

[HellBoyX]

Interesting question as I wasn't really aware of "K-agencies" myself but mongered in Asia and of course Mexico. If your driving from LA then I can see where the costs is very comparable when you factor in the hotel etc. But, we are talking apples and oranges here in terms of experiences. In a given night I may only screw one girl, but I talked to many, had drinks, groped them, took them in a private room for private lap dance where I negotiated for her to be totally nude etc. I other girls that I am looking forward to fucking in the future etc, and I learned a bit about Mexico from the girls.

I was able to bounce between 2-3 bars that each have their on flavor of ambiance. Music etc. Sometimes check out a recommended restaurant, at times meet up with a buddy from the forum and exchange mongering experiences.

It really is "the whole enchilada" in Tijuana.

I have met a few Mexican girls I really enjoyed hanging out with and doing a GFE with them would be really nice as well so it's got it's wonderful perks.

Seems you can have your cake and eat it too. Take in some K-Agencies up there and make some trips to Tijuana!

Here is the Post Malone tune that embodies these opportunities..

So here on the East Coast, we have a few K girl agencies that are rather hard to get into initially (lots of personal information required) but once you are in, the experience is great. I live in a major political area, and the going rate is $$$ for an hour. This is actually a bargain, as many of our providers are starting to hit $$ (independents). Its funny how you see inflation creep into the black market well before the regular areas (mostly). Anyways I love Tijuana and the K-Agencies so I feel like if I had the option for 1.60 for a half hour, that would be a great bargain. Just my opinion.

[Big Magick]

Mexican culture is different from the USA. It's more of a "feudal" society (although it's changing rapidly) and the "richer" person is expected to "help" the poorer person. Noblesse oblige. You don't do something as crude as saying Hi, want to screw for $100? You talk and flirt and do what you'd normally do to pick up the girl. At some point she may mention help with the rent. Or, she may not. But you, at some point, would ask if they need assistance with bills, or whatever. They do not consider it prostitution, and offering them money for sex would piss off many of them. Maybe it's a rose by another name, but it pays big dividends to be culturally sensitive. I help all of my civvie GFs when I see them. The amount varies, NONE of them consider it P4 P, and all of them are very happy to have the help.

Thanks for the advice everyone and I would never be so crass to just proposition civies like that, even in the zona bars I make sure to talk and flirt with the girl first. I've learned making things less transactional benefits everyone. I get better service and she feels less guilt / shame or whatever about it. I really need to get in better shape so I can hit the nightlife outside of the zona LOL.

[Gregyyr]

Sorry for your bad luck. I have had the opposite experience. I love SA.

Laredo sucks, not sure why you thought it would be good. MTY is great, but is expensive. Hope things get better.

Kudos to the guys on this forum who share their bad learning experiences as it really does help others to make better decisions out there in the mongering world.

We have all made them and while it seems simple to hook up with a prostitute or even hang out in a bar. There are a ton of good and bad decisions that can be made to fuck up your evening or worse.

Thanks for sharing!

G.

[LuvMexicanas]

Mexican culture is different from the USA. It's more of a "feudal" society (although it's changing rapidly) and the "richer" person is expected to "help" the poorer person. Noblesse oblige. You don't do something as crude as saying Hi, want to screw for $100? You talk and flirt and do what you'd normally do to pick up the girl. At some point she may mention help with the rent. Or, she may not. But you, at some point, would ask if they need assistance with bills, or whatever. They do not consider it prostitution, and offering them money for sex would piss off many of them. Maybe it's a rose by another name, but it pays big dividends to be culturally sensitive. I help all of my civvie GFs when I see them. The amount varies, NONE of them consider it P4 P, and all of them are very happy to have the help.

A much more eloquent explanation than mine earlier and exactly right, a rose by another name. Well said. I say pros to keep it short because lord knows we have some on the thread you'd swear are being paid per word and yes, you should never just offer money to fuck. It's a less direct culture so you eventually make your way around to assistance, which is why I like to use the expression milk money.

[LuvMexicanas]

So you meet them at a bar / club and you don't try to sleep with them for free? You just straight up tell them ill pay X amount to sleep with you? I'm curious about your process. Sounds like the sessions would be better than bar girls.

What I'm saying is there are pros in regular bars but more along the lines of chicas having a good time yet won't pass up an opportunity to make some cash. A non-Mexican guy like me in a Centro bar by himself might as well have monger stamped on his forehead. As for process, you make eye contact and then things go where they go. Yes, the sessions are better but not all the time, as I have quite a few former agency chicas saved as contacts from getting their number if they give good service during the initial session through their agency. Many chicas work for an agency just for a week or two until they quickly realize walking into a random guy's room every night is not their cup of tea. I suspect some chicas build up some regulars and only go back to an agency when things dry up and they need to rebuild their clientele.

[Phordphan]

So you meet them at a bar / club and you don't try to sleep with them for free? You just straight up tell them ill pay X amount to sleep with you? I'm curious about your process. Sounds like the sessions would be better than bar girls.

Mexican culture is different from the USA. It's more of a "feudal" society (although it's changing rapidly) and the "richer" person is expected to "help" the poorer person. Noblesse oblige. You don't do something as crude as saying Hi, want to screw for $100? You talk and flirt and do what you'd normally do to pick up the girl. At some point she may mention help with the rent. Or, she may not. But you, at some point, would ask if they need assistance with bills, or whatever. They do not consider it prostitution, and offering them money for sex would piss off many of them. Maybe it's a rose by another name, but it pays big dividends to be culturally sensitive. I help all of my civvie GFs when I see them. The amount varies, NONE of them consider it P4 P, and all of them are very happy to have the help.

[DramaFree11]

Perhaps you can start a boxing school to train pussy-whipped gringos how to deal with their aggressive wives!

Hola Amigos:

As many will recall, I left Cali over a month ago to live and work in San Antonio. Bad idea. Since I moved to San Antonio, I have had nothing but bad luck. This includes getting side swiped in New Mexico by a big rig when two lanes merged into one, working a job that ended up to be a piece of crap labor camp type of employment, getting my front bumper and side panel of my car bashed in by a hit and run idiot at a grocery store. The bar scene in both Nuevo Laredo and Ciudad Acuna totally sucks. I was with a hottie in a bar called Pullmans in Nuevo Laredo. She was going to hang out with me all night and not work as long as I gave her some money for the whole day and night. I got sicker than a dog at one of the bars we went to and told her that I needed to go back to my hotel alone. She got pissed and threatened me, telling me. You leave and don't pay me and you will be very sorry. You will pay big time. This is as she started making calls to god knows who. So I ended up paying her so I didn't get my ass whipped by a band of cartel thugs. So, with this string of bad luck, I have decided to come back home to Cali.

Sorry for your bad luck. I have had the opposite experience. I love SA.

Laredo sucks, not sure why you thought it would be good. MTY is great, but is expensive. Hope things get better.

[Big Magick]

I've picked up chicas in normal bars but the ones I've picked up were not true civvies and instead young single moms out having a good time yet not opposed to making some milk money. That's the sweet spot for me because although pros, not hardened ones and at the same time lines don't get blurred because I'm paying. Just in a stage of my life right now where I just want the booty call as opposed to get caught up in a relationship. As for what Mexican women dream of, I don't know or care.

So you meet them at a bar / club and you don't try to sleep with them for free? You just straight up tell them ill pay X amount to sleep with you? I'm curious about your process. Sounds like the sessions would be better than bar girls.

[LuvMexicanas]

Yes, a night out with your buddies can be ton of fun in Tijuana. I have done that a number of times, and I always had fun.

But, speaking strictly about the sessions, the Korean WGs are superior IMO. They are more sophisticated, and know how to please a man. You get an overall better session with them. And if you are into Asian girls, they tend to be better looking as well.

Was in Seoul during the mid to late 90's as a very young man when the exchange rate exploded from 800-900 won per dollar to at one point 2000 won per dollar. It was once in a lifetime and yes Coreanas are amazing from a service and looks standpoint. Thin and pale beauties who have been cultured for thousands of years to cater to men is an unrivaled combination. Also, BBFS+CIP was the norm and rarely, if ever, any pussies with even the slightest off putting smell. If a girl liked you, she'd even get you a bibi (beeper) so she can reach you at all times. If only there were smart phones back then I'd post a barrage of photos that would fill the photo gallery, albeit not in the Tijuana threads.

[Captain Solo]

LeFeu,

It's great to visit the girls in Korea and have them guide you through local culture while getting hot sex on foreign soil. I hope she was also young and beautiful for your honeymoon hehe.

I tried Korean agencies and apartment girls. Most were older, no so hot and all strictly business. Some women in Korean and Asian agencies are shrunken geriatric women, they look disgusting, left alone touching, kissing and screwing.

In the best cases, the girls would be mid 30's, average-looking, really stressed for time. They typically shuttle you in, no social interaction, quickly get your clothes off, ride you to pop then push you out to make room for the next guys. The girls also rotate frequently to different locations so it's impossible to make connections. For me the sexeperiences with agency girls are impersonal and clinical at best, more like factory sex, not much better than making passionate love to a rubber doll hehe. However, a Korean-speaking guy has been doing $300 full-hour BB sessions with hot, young Korean girls and gets to know a few personally, taking them on local vacations with unlimited BB sex gratis like you did. These girls are pretty much isolated and put to work long hours everyday of the week for long stretch without rest or recreation. They also need real human connections which Korean guys have the advantages and can deliver.

I went to China many times, had the companies of some of the most beautiful girls but it was not fulfilling as we could not communicate even the simplest things. I spent a few days with Pinays in Manila, not as pretty as Chinese girls, but hey can really pump up my libido as they could communicate their wants and needs in English and we were screwing many times day and night BB. Young Pinays are sexier and a lot more fun and I still prefer the Phil over Thailand. The food, sight seeing, water sports, ocean recreations and night life entertainment are also way more exciting. Looking to do a S E Asia tour at year end when countries open up, Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Bali, Philippines. All sex destinations are only 1 to 2 hours nonstop flights apart costing no more than $50 each. Lots of hot, sexy girls are starving for sex, Any bro want to go at year end let me know.

I have more than my share of hot, sweet, sexy Latinas in Tijuana. Don't feel urgent urge to spend time flying down to South and Central America for more. But the bros should visit Buenos Aires to experience the life of a very gentle, noble, beautiful people of Argentina with their sweet, pretty girls and their life full arts, music, dances.

While you can get sex with agency girls in Socal, the sexperiences are those of selfishness, loneliness, desperation, like one ugly, senseless robot fucking another. The clubs in Tijuana are a lot more social and fun with large selections of girls. It's more fun and exciting to spend hours to flirt with girls, talk, grope, kiss, check them out, pump up your lust before taking them to the hotel for hot sessions. The chase is as much fun as the main events. A few wingmen, who speak zero Spanish, have made connections with HK girls for long, hot BB sessions and all nighters without surcharges.

Either way, if you spend time and money to cultivate the girls you will have more satisfying sessions, even relationships. You have to figure out which way is easier and less expensive.

[Captain Solo]

Perhaps you can start a boxing school to train pussy-whipped gringos how to deal with their aggressive wives!

Hola Amigos:

As many will recall, I left Cali over a month ago to live and work in San Antonio. Bad idea. Since I moved to San Antonio, I have had nothing but bad luck. This includes getting side swiped in New Mexico by a big rig when two lanes merged into one, working a job that ended up to be a piece of crap labor camp type of employment, getting my front bumper and side panel of my car bashed in by a hit and run idiot at a grocery store. The bar scene in both Nuevo Laredo and Ciudad Acuna totally sucks. I was with a hottie in a bar called Pullmans in Nuevo Laredo. She was going to hang out with me all night and not work as long as I gave her some money for the whole day and night. I got sicker than a dog at one of the bars we went to and told her that I needed to go back to my hotel alone. She got pissed and threatened me, telling me. You leave and don't pay me and you will be very sorry. You will pay big time. This is as she started making calls to god knows who. So I ended up paying her so I didn't get my ass whipped by a band of cartel thugs. So, with this string of bad luck, I have decided to come back home to Cali.

Hola Amigos:

As many will recall, I left Cali over a month ago to live and work in San Antonio. Bad idea. Since I moved to San Antonio, I have had nothing but bad luck. This includes getting side swiped in New Mexico by a big rig when two lanes merged into one, working a job that ended up to be a piece of crap labor camp type of employment, getting my front bumper and side panel of my car bashed in by a hit and run idiot at a grocery store. The bar scene in both Nuevo Laredo and Ciudad Acuna totally sucks. I was with a hottie in a bar called Pullmans in Nuevo Laredo. She was going to hang out with me all night and not work as long as I gave her some money for the whole day and night. I got sicker than a dog at one of the bars we went to and told her that I needed to go back to my hotel alone. She got pissed and threatened me, telling me. You leave and don't pay me and you will be very sorry. You will pay big time. This is as she started making calls to god knows who. So I ended up paying her so I didn't get my ass whipped by a band of cartel thugs. So, with this string of bad luck, I have decided to come back home to Cali.

[Lefeu]

...It really is "the whole enchilada" in Tijuana.

I have met a few Mexican girls I really enjoyed hanging out with and doing a GFE with them would be really nice as well so it's got it's wonderful perks.

Seems you can have your cake and eat it too. Take in some K-Agencies up there and make some trips to Tijuana!...

Yes, a night out with your buddies can be ton of fun in Tijuana. I have done that a number of times, and I always had fun.

But, speaking strictly about the sessions, the Korean WGs are superior IMO. They are more sophisticated, and know how to please a man. You get an overall better session with them. And if you are into Asian girls, they tend to be better looking as well.

[Gregyyr]

Hey all. Is anyone here familiar with the SoCal scene?

I've lived in LA area for about 7 years now and I've long tried not to 'shit where I eat'. Fear of running into a girl in public while I'm out with the girlfriend, friends, or coworkers LOL.

However, lately I've cared less and less about that problem.

For those of you familiar with both SoCal & Tijuana. Would it be safe to say the total cost between SoCal and Tijuana is comparable?

Obviously the per session fee in Tijuana is cheaper but not including hotel / drinks / driving / etc.

I've tried looking up rates for SoCal K-agencies and rates seem to be pretty common at 160/ hh? In which case its almost the same as HK if you factor in all the other expenses you'd incur..

Interesting question as I wasn't really aware of "K-agencies" myself but mongered in Asia and of course Mexico. If your driving from LA then I can see where the costs is very comparable when you factor in the hotel etc. But, we are talking apples and oranges here in terms of experiences. In a given night I may only screw one girl, but I talked to many, had drinks, groped them, took them in a private room for private lap dance where I negotiated for her to be totally nude etc. I other girls that I am looking forward to fucking in the future etc, and I learned a bit about Mexico from the girls.

I was able to bounce between 2-3 bars that each have their on flavor of ambiance. Music etc. Sometimes check out a recommended restaurant, at times meet up with a buddy from the forum and exchange mongering experiences.

It really is "the whole enchilada" in Tijuana.

I have met a few Mexican girls I really enjoyed hanging out with and doing a GFE with them would be really nice as well so it's got it's wonderful perks.

Seems you can have your cake and eat it too. Take in some K-Agencies up there and make some trips to Tijuana!

Here is the Post Malone tune that embodies these opportunities.

https://youtu.be/UceaB4D0jpo

G.

[Artisttyp]

I haven't walked around that area since I went to hk for first time 6 years ago. Basically for myself anyway, flushing nyc is my tijuana when on the east coast. It's got a lot of the same stuff. More affordable hotels then most areas, walkable, public trains, woman on the street that will ask me for sex, great 40 dollar massages. Feels like foreign country as it's probably 90% asain when you walk around. I love going into the asain supermarkets. They have 24 ounce beers buds etc for like 2 bucks. The woman, regular woman are all about half the weight of mexican woman. I like thin woman so thoe asin woman are much more my type. But its endless endless beautiful korean woman walking around here. Tons working girl houses. Like probably 20 to 30 just in flushing I would guess. Some have been open 20 years so I feel safe. Only issue is the price had gona up anyway or two ago. I used to spend 40 to get massage table shower, and let them convince me I needed their extra services. Usually 40 to 60 more would work. Now it does not so I just go to hang out and look at the woman and get a massage.

Great Info. I never ventured into Flushing much but I do know it is highly Asian populated so makes sense. I did the soapies in Korea Town years ago. None of it was really cheap except out on the street during the 80's.