Sao Paulo Reports

[The Cane]

This is very similar to having a good taste in clothing / style. Some people have it, some people don't, no matter if they can afford expensive stuff or not. A good example of a bad taste would be a guy wearing all Gucci / D&G / etc that looks like a clown.

There used to be a monger in this thread who would get extremely annoyed when challenged about the optics of the clinica girls (he would regularly claim they looked as good as Scandallo girls). One time, he got angry and proclaimed that he was a long time Sao Paulo resident, and had been mongering in Sampa for years. My response was that fact alone didn't necessarily translate into him having taste with respect to female optics LOL. Again. Some men have it. And some men don't (but often think that they do hahaha). Or, they will say things like it's impossible to intelligently talk about "having taste" with regard to the mongering hobby. I beg to differ.

[The Cane]

So when The Cane says most people agree with his idea of hotness, we can conclude that big enhanced tits are hot now, but weren't in the past.

No real idea what in the world you're talking about, or how you reach such a conclusion. It's like you're trying to tell me what I like or something! For your information, I don't mind a tit job as long as it's proportional and well-done (no scarring), and not too big, but dude I happen to prefer them all natural. Ahem!

[The Cane]

Talking about taste in the mongering world is delusional.

If you say so then. Hahahaha.

[Turgid]

You're not talking apples to apples and oranges to oranges. You brought in all kinds of other factors that involve things other than optics alone, which is what this is about. Not, for example, how somebody feels about fucking a woman that lots of other guys are fucking. How does she look is the operative inquiry. That's the point. So, I said it before, and I'll say it again. When The Cane says that a woman is attractive, more people than not tend to agree (both men and women by the way). That's having "optics taste". And I am quite sure about that. Now, that's keeping it straightforward and to the point without muddying the waters with a bunch of extraneous factors that nobody was talking about, or is concerned with to be frank. The matter is simply does this woman have physical characteristics that make her hot or not? That's what's at the crux of this eternal debate.

You seemed to have completely missed my point. Talking about taste in the mongering world is delusional. A street dweller who has found $10,000 and cleaned himself up can fuck the same 8 or 9 you are fucking. So what does having taste matter in that circumstance? Its meaningless. Real taste separates the connoisseur from the ignoramus.

[HarvestBoi]

Personally, I get turned on by the idea of fucking a girl who other guys want or have to fuck. It's seriously part of the appeal and if I wanted to fuck a 4-5 I'the get a girlfriend LOL. Consider that what we find hot is not so much a quality of the girl itself, the intrinsic quality of her body and face but her desirability is something we learn from watching other dudes. Case in point, 15 years ago almost all Club Model types had natural breasts, today almost none do. Same thing with big asses which were considered gross when I was coming up. So when The Cane says most people agree with his idea of hotness, we can conclude that big enhanced tits are hot now, but weren't in the past.

And I resemble the remark about sadly jerking off at home LOL. In my beginning monger days thinking "every time I jerk off I'm saving hundreds of dollars!

Now he considers that he has taste and does not want to fuck a woman who has been with hundreds (maybe more) of men and avoids prostitutes even if they are 7 and above. However, he does not have the ability to woo 7's and above so he wiles away the time masturbating alone at home. What about the guy who will go with the 5 or 6 in his eyes when that is available rather than sadly masturbating alone at home but will happily go with a 9 or 10 when he has the opportunity.

[PhuckBiden]

This is very similar to having a good taste in clothing / style. Some people have it, some people don't, no matter if they can afford expensive stuff or not. A good example of a bad taste would be a guy wearing all Gucci / D&G / etc that looks like a clown.

What media defined as sex symbol in the 70's through 2000, I like.

I'm not into today's USA Woke movement of everyone woman is beautiful.

Democrats are fucking retarded people and will do anything to promote Fugly (no taste) as beautiful.

MiamiBoy1 is correct. It's the whole package, Face, Body, Service, Attitude, Room, Sloppy seconds, classy and sophistication, charm, polished and manicured.

Optics is just 51%, the majority that men consider, but pointless debate if she's a Tranny like Bruce Jenner with a Dick, or some Lady Boy from Thailand that keeps.

You up at night wondering if it was Optics or a Real Woman.

[WyattEarp]

I'm not so sure about that. Lets say there's a guy who 'has taste' and only wants to bang girls who he rates 7 and above. Now he considers that he has taste and does not want to fuck a woman who has been with hundreds (maybe more) of men and avoids prostitutes even if they are 7 and above. However, he does not have the ability to woo 7's and above so he wiles away the time masturbating alone at home. Who would consider such a person as having taste? What about the guy who will go with the 5 or 6 in his eyes when that is available rather than sadly masturbating alone at home but will happily go with a 9 or 10 when he has the opportunity. Does the guy who insists on jerking off have better taste than the one who bangs 5s and 6s and gets 9's or 10's when they are available to him?

Additionally, a man may consider he has taste and go with a prostitute he considers a 9 but then another man looks at him in disgust because he thinks she's a 5. Who decides what is taste?

Is it a matter of money? Does the man who can afford to go to Scandallo every day of the week and bang 9's and 10's have better taste than the man who can't afford to and bangs what he can afford?

Personally I consider that I have taste but will not adjudicate on that of another man as beauty lies in the eye of the beholder.

For some reason, I am reminded of the bathing scene from the restored version of Spartacus.

Crassus (Olivier): Do you consider the eating of oysters to be moral and the eating of snails to be immoral?

Antoninus (Curtis): No, master.

Crassus (Olivier): Of course not. It is all a matter of taste, isn't it?

[MiamiBoy1]

You're not talking apples to apples and oranges to oranges. You brought in all kinds of other factors that involve things other than optics alone, which is what this is about. Not, for example, how somebody feels about fucking a woman that lots of other guys are fucking. How does she look is the operative inquiry. That's the point. So, I said it before, and I'll say it again. When The Cane says that a woman is attractive, more people than not tend to agree (both men and women by the way). That's having "optics taste". And I am quite sure about that. Now, that's keeping it straightforward and to the point without muddying the waters with a bunch of extraneous factors that nobody was talking about, or is concerned with to be frank. The matter is simply does this woman have physical characteristics that make her hot or not? That's what's at the crux of this eternal debate.

This is very similar to having a good taste in clothing / style. Some people have it, some people don't, no matter if they can afford expensive stuff or not. A good example of a bad taste would be a guy wearing all Gucci / D&G / etc that looks like a clown.

[The Cane]

I'm not so sure about that. Lets say there's a guy who 'has taste' and only wants to bang girls who he rates 7 and above. Now he considers that he has taste and does not want to fuck a woman who has been with hundreds (maybe more) of men and avoids prostitutes even if they are 7 and above. However, he does not have the ability to woo 7's and above so he wiles away the time masturbating alone at home. Who would consider such a person as having taste? What about the guy who will go with the 5 or 6 in his eyes when that is available rather than sadly masturbating alone at home but will happily go with a 9 or 10 when he has the opportunity. Does they guy who insists on unillateral sex have better taste than the one who gets 9's or 10's when he can.

Additionally, a man may consider he has taste and go with a prostitute he considers a 9 but then another man looks at him in disgust because he thinks she's a 5. Who decides what is taste?

Is it a matter of money? Does the man who can afford to go to Scandallo every day of the week and bang 9's and 10's have better taste than the man who can't afford to and bangs what he can afford?

You're not talking apples to apples and oranges to oranges. You brought in all kinds of other factors that involve things other than optics alone, which is what this is about. Not, for example, how somebody feels about fucking a woman that lots of other guys are fucking. How does she look is the operative inquiry. That's the point. So, I said it before, and I'll say it again. When The Cane says that a woman is attractive, more people than not tend to agree (both men and women by the way). That's having "optics taste". And I am quite sure about that. Now, that's keeping it straightforward and to the point without muddying the waters with a bunch of extraneous factors that nobody was talking about, or is concerned with to be frank. The matter is simply does this woman have physical characteristics that make her hot or not? That's what's at the crux of this eternal debate.

[Turgid]

... Some guys have taste, and some don't. I do......

I'm not so sure about that. Lets say there's a guy who 'has taste' and only wants to bang girls who he rates 7 and above. Now he considers that he has taste and does not want to fuck a woman who has been with hundreds (maybe more) of men and avoids prostitutes even if they are 7 and above. However, he does not have the ability to woo 7's and above so he wiles away the time masturbating alone at home. Who would consider such a person as having taste? What about the guy who will go with the 5 or 6 in his eyes when that is available rather than sadly masturbating alone at home but will happily go with a 9 or 10 when he has the opportunity. Does the guy who insists on jerking off have better taste than the one who bangs 5s and 6s and gets 9's or 10's when they are available to him?

Additionally, a man may consider he has taste and go with a prostitute he considers a 9 but then another man looks at him in disgust because he thinks she's a 5. Who decides what is taste?

Is it a matter of money? Does the man who can afford to go to Scandallo every day of the week and bang 9's and 10's have better taste than the man who can't afford to and bangs what he can afford?

Personally I consider that I have taste but will not adjudicate on that of another man as beauty lies in the eye of the beholder.

[Nounce]

.... Based on your words above, that includes you.

I think we both agree this is a different time. We can only find out when you get here.

If the average of boate is 8, will it be fair to say one can find 10% 9s and 5% 10s? That means one can find at least 10 girls that are very attractive during weekends. I don't see it.

To put it in context, I will send you a club model link who I think is the hottest I have met in SP.

[CatBert55]

Does anyone know if this Marriott will allow me to register a late night garota? I have to burn a free night certificate by year's end and this looks like a good place to use it. After the one night I'll be moving into a cheaper and known girl friendly hotel.

Asking about the girl-friendly status of the SP Renaissance reminds me of an old joke. "The hotel manager called me to ask if I had a girl in my room. I said no, so he sent one up." There are usually 5-6 (very obvious) GDPs working the hotel bar. They don't approach the customers, but they are there for the taking. This hotel is truly a full-service Marriott.

[GiuseppeBonera]

Does anyone know if this Marriott will allow me to register a late night garota? I have to burn a free night certificate by year's end and this looks like a good place to use it. After the one night I'll be moving into a cheaper and known girl friendly hotel.

I have brought in two garotas at 1:30 am! You are good.

[Lucky Nuts]

Does anyone know if this Marriott will allow me to register a late night garota? I have to burn a free night certificate by year's end and this looks like a good place to use it. After the one night I'll be moving into a cheaper and known girl friendly hotel.

[The Cane]

Not that I don't believe you, that is before. I don't rate girl but there is no way the average is 8 at this point of time. The alternative is your rating is very forgiving but I have seen some photos you posted and I agree with you on some of those if not all.

Considering that I think most clinica girls are at 6 and below, I don't think that my scale is "forgiving" at all. I have high optics standards and am extremely picky, and have only gotten to be more so with time. Some guys have taste, and some don't. I do. I went to a swinging event over the summer attended by 1,500 people and saw just two women I was attracted to. Two, and one of them was actually working the event! I know that at the end of the day, it's all subjective. But what I have learned over time is that if I say that a woman is attractive, more people (both men and women) tend to agree with me than not. Based on your words above, that includes you.