Montreal

[WyattEarp]

Interesting interpretation of Canadian law. In reality the laws passed most recently did not liberalize it.

I didn't say anything about the law. The practical consequences is that prostitution has been liberalized in Canada.

[Mongerer88]

Interesting interpretation of Canadian law. In reality the laws passed most recently did not liberalize it. It was under the conservatives and the more recent law makes it an offense to pay for sex. Before that under the old laws paying for sex was not illegal. Now the provinces are not all that enthused about enforcing this law as they don't want to create a charter challenge. But it is there, and sometimes used, or threatened.

Other related laws have changed. The bawdy house law, living off the avails law, and restrictions on advertising. Some of these changes could be considered a bit more liberal, the main one being that now it is the customer that can be charged, but not the sex worker.

Not sure I agree.

I am not aware of any "sometimes used" instances in Quebec.

Ontario did bring a see-36 case, and the result for the government was quite the disaster. Scholars debate the precedence, but it is likely limited to Ontario. I doubt we will be seeing many C-36 cases in the future, and certainly not in Ontario.

https://london.ctvnews.ca/judge-rule...case-1.4821544#_gus&_gucid=&_gup=twitter&_gsc=IU6 Tirc.

The truth is that Canada was always a half-legal mess. Before see-36, incall was illegal, but outcall was legal (even though many parts of the outcall process were illegal).

The courts overruled the ridiculousness of incall being illegal but outcall being legal, but stayed the decision until politicians could decide if they wanted the decriminalization it would have created, or if the politicians wanted to create illegality. They went with the crazy half-legal system of prostitution now being a crime, but the seller of sex being exempt from arrest / prosecution. Commonly, although not really accurately, described as selling sex being legal but buying it being illegal.

The answer after C-36 was for the system to change to a sale of time / companionship, with the escort choosing to provide sex during the compensated time. It seems to be working for both incall and outcall, especially given the official prioritization policy set forth by the police of Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver.

[Zeos1]

Exactly.

Before Canada liberalized prostitution, the Canadian strip clubs were notorious for full contact lap dances, blow jobs, hand jobs, etc. Back room fucks with your clothes on were not unheard of. The strippers who were providing these services in the club were also more than likely willing to meet-up outside the club. Top Canadian strip clubs had some beautiful women and in that era the French-Canadian strippers were renowned.

That was several years ago. With the liberalization of prostitution, the Canadian strip clubs lost their unique appeal.

If all one wants to do is have a drink and watch some nude dancers, the Montreal strip clubs should suffice. Is it possible a stripper will meet you at your place? Sure, for the right price it's possible. I don't think anyone recommends that be the focus of your Montreal mongering adventures.

Interesting interpretation of Canadian law. In reality the laws passed most recently did not liberalize it. It was under the conservatives and the more recent law makes it an offense to pay for sex. Before that under the old laws paying for sex was not illegal. Now the provinces are not all that enthused about enforcing this law as they don't want to create a charter challenge. But it is there, and sometimes used, or threatened.

Other related laws have changed. The bawdy house law, living off the avails law, and restrictions on advertising. Some of these changes could be considered a bit more liberal, the main one being that now it is the customer that can be charged, but not the sex worker.

[Jalimon2]

Sounds like you had a fun time OM! Thanks for sharing.

I beginning to wonder. Both SPs you saw from Vog did not resemble their pics. When I saw Amber recently, there were no pics (but a recent review warned me of the post-pandemic changes). Someone else recently told me that another SP from Vog did not resemble her pics (and he was disappointed). Yes, I know agencies will touch up photos, removing tattoos, maybe even airbrushing out any blemishes to make their models look more attractive, but this sounds a bit more than that, to the point of having out of date or even misleading pics. Are others having similar experiences with this agency?

Vog is known for heavy photoshop. That said it's still a great agency with amazing girl.

I think it will take a few months before we see same number of quality girl as it was before the pandemic. Government help is about to be shut down I think that will help.

[FlagRunner77]

Yes, was using VPN.

Does anyone know if CAF is similar? I've tried a couple of times in the last few months but no response. I use a VPN for obvious reasons.

[Lurker Z]

Had a pleasant week in Montreal.

Arielle from Vog Montreal was different than the photos, outcall with a cute dyed blonde. Clean shaved, DFK, DATY, Finger, OWO, less time tonguing the jewels, several positions to finish 240.

Maya from Vog Montreal was a different woman. Rougher looking spinner was 90 min late for her outcall. Enthusiastic but wasn't an enjoyable experience even with MSOG 240.

Sounds like you had a fun time OM! Thanks for sharing.

I beginning to wonder. Both SPs you saw from Vog did not resemble their pics. When I saw Amber recently, there were no pics (but a recent review warned me of the post-pandemic changes). Someone else recently told me that another SP from Vog did not resemble her pics (and he was disappointed). Yes, I know agencies will touch up photos, removing tattoos, maybe even airbrushing out any blemishes to make their models look more attractive, but this sounds a bit more than that, to the point of having out of date or even misleading pics. Are others having similar experiences with this agency?

[OddsMaker]

Had a pleasant week in Montreal.

Visited Melodie at LE Penthouse. A nice pair of bolted ONS and a face full of filler. Gave a topless massage and gave a nude happy ending. 120 and she offered 200 for oral with.

Amanda from Velvet Love outcall was delicious. Photos are accurate but she's got orange hair now. Piercings and tattoos looked great, friendly personality. DFK, DATY, Finger, OWO, spent forever tonguing the family jewels, and a couple positions to finish 240.

Arielle from Vog Montreal was different than the photos, outcall with a cute dyed blonde. Clean shaved, DFK, DATY, Finger, OWO, less time tonguing the jewels, several positions to finish 240.

Maya from Vog Montreal was a different woman. Rougher looking spinner was 90 min late for her outcall. Enthusiastic but wasn't an enjoyable experience even with MSOG 240.

Rachel from Extreme Massage was polite but not enthusiastic, photos are accurate.

Cataline from Velvet Love, incall and looks very young with braces. Petite brunette DFK, DATY, Finger, OWO, 69, jewel tonguing, and multiple positions 240.

[ManchesterCat]

How reasonable would it be to take a long weekend in Montreal or Toronto? If I flew in a on Thursday night and stayed until Sunday would that be enough time? Would it be possible to budget everything under $3k?

My other concern is scheduling or "no-shows". It would suck to travel and left in my hotel with nothing to do.

Depends on what you have planned. Sessions typically under $300 per hour. AirBnB and hotel vary, but you can get somewhere around $100 a night, so very feasible overall, depending on how many sessions and how long you want sessions to be. Some Indys may be more then $300, but plenty of good agency options.

As far as no shows are concerned, I've never had an issue. Girls are always ready for their appointments, except a few rare Indys. The challenge when I was last in town was that schedules were often released on the for most agencies, and others released a bit in advance but were sometimes subject to change. Someone you wan to meet may not be available, but there will be plenty of other great options if you have an open mind, the agency will often suggest alternatives in the rare case something doesn't go to plan.

[GuyBrusg1957]

Right on,

Thanks for the input all. I Appreciate the advice.

[WyattEarp]

You're overthinking it. Even the weekend lineups will be better than the strip clubs..

Exactly.

Before Canada liberalized prostitution, the Canadian strip clubs were notorious for full contact lap dances, blow jobs, hand jobs, etc. Back room fucks with your clothes on were not unheard of. The strippers who were providing these services in the club were also more than likely willing to meet-up outside the club. Top Canadian strip clubs had some beautiful women and in that era the French-Canadian strippers were renowned.

That was several years ago. With the liberalization of prostitution, the Canadian strip clubs lost their unique appeal.

If all one wants to do is have a drink and watch some nude dancers, the Montreal strip clubs should suffice. Is it possible a stripper will meet you at your place? Sure, for the right price it's possible. I don't think anyone recommends that be the focus of your Montreal mongering adventures.

[HarvestBoi]

You're overthinking it. Even the weekend lineups will be better than the strip clubs.

Damn, now Montreal seems less appealing? Are any of the strip clubs at least somewhat decent with good cocktails?

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[EverythingBlue]

Damn, now Montreal seems less appealing? Are any of the strip clubs at least somewhat decent with good cocktails?

Not sure what your concerns are, I went for a weekend and had a ton of fun. Going back soon. Go, hit up the agencies as much as you want, bang girls, sight see if you want, dine and bang again. There's nothing to worry about.

[GuyBrusg1957]

Damn, now Montreal seems less appealing? Are any of the strip clubs at least somewhat decent with good cocktails?

[SaltyNut]

Are you using a VPN? They ban all who use a VPN.

Yes, was using VPN.

[SaltyNut]

Who the f#&k knows why and what they're doing?

This isn't directed at you. The green board is an over-moderated, shill infested mess. Read the reviews with a grain of salt. That board is very protective of the agencies (board sponsors) and their girls. Independents who advertise there are also in the protected class. You can look at the agency ads and their daily line-ups, but you're better off directly following the websites of the four or five major agencies (Euphoria, XO, Vogue, VelvetLove, etc.). You can stay up on late additions to their line-ups. The better independents generally advertise their websites on indycompanion.com.

We have some of the local guys come over here on occasion. They can be more candid.

It's possible you were banned and you forgot. The green board has a long, long memory.

When I punt in Mexico, I browse a local forum for less photoshopped pictures from reviewers.

The mods get some sessions from girls / agencies per month in exchange for letting them advertise.

As you can imagine, only positive reviews are allowed.

So I'm not at all surprised by your reply. Thanks.