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  1. #11882
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Yes. They go to Bogota, Cali, and Santo Domingo by the ton. Many doctors from those places advertise specifically to them. Hardly ever someone you would actually suspect of having plastic surgery. If that is after, what the hell did they look like before? Usually seems to have been a big waste of money.
    They also travel to get work done, so they can do all of the post-surgery recovery while "on vacation" so none of their friends see them. For a while, it was common for them to get a procedure done in Las Vegas, and just hang out there for a while, before coming home, but that was back when you had to actually print your pictures to share them with friends.

  2. #11881
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomasb  [View Original Post]
    I arrived in Cartagena this past Sunday, one day later than originally planned due to a snafu in preparing the on line immigration form now required by Colombia. Don't want to get into the details but make certain the information and dates you are inserting match up exactly with your passport information such as expiration date, passport number, exact match of your name etc. Also, it's better to prepare using a regular full screen computer monitor as some of the check boxes don't readily appear on your iPhone or iPad. This form also has an additional section regarding any exposure to COViD.

    In order for the airline to allow boarding, you must have a confirmation letter from immigration. Best to print it out and have it ready to show at the gate. I had problems and missed my first flight connection domestically and spent an extra day trying to reconnect my international flight to Cartagena. It was finally accepted and to some extent, I don't know why it was rejected several times even though the airline staff helped me input the data.

    So I am here now, somewhat frazzled from my experience. Nevertheless, I did check out Reloj on Sunday night and thought the talent left a lot to be desired. I did not enter any clubs until last night and tried LDV for my first venture. First, alcoholic non beer drinks are quite expensive $440 K for a Cuba Libre, though beer is $210 k so a bit easier on the wallet. I flirted with a fairly attractive Vennie from Caracas who was part Colombian so had a COL passport. Bought her a few beers and she returned the favor with some dirty dancing. I told her that my hotel does not allow guests up front and mentioned that I was going to Santa Marta on Saturday but when I returned I would be staying in a private apartment where guests are allowed. So with all that info, she still
    elected to hang out with me.
    Girls arrive at 10 pm and the best ones are gone by midnight. Anything after midnight are leftovers trying to get customers. The ones that exclusively work LDV will stay till closing but the others will leave and go to Delirium as those mongers in there will just about take anything jajaja. The same with Space, they will leave and go to Delirium to try and get something. Days also matter. Sunday. Wednesday won't yield much talent but Thursday to Saturday if you get there around 9:30 pm its a buffet of all shapes sizes and colours.

  3. #11880

    Huge waste of money indeed

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Yes. They go to Bogota, Cali, and Santo Domingo by the ton. Many doctors from those places advertise specifically to them. Hardly ever someone you would actually suspect of having plastic surgery. If that is after, what the hell did they look like before? Usually seems to have been a big waste of money.
    These women fly down and get those surgeries to compete with the Instagram models who use photoshop and filters to create their look. Such a waste of money, they go down overweight, get the tummy tuck and butt lift, breast lifts, but then they can't take the cellulite out their legs or all the fat off their arms. So they end up walking around looking like a laughable cartoon character. Yes they are turning heads but they don't often realize guys are looking trying to figure out what they are looking at instead of looking to go talk to them.

    Also most of them don't maintain it after the surgery. Its a shortcut to get the look but then after 3 years of them not eating right or going to the gym to maintain what they paid for the weight just comes right back. Been through it many time with DR girls, meet them on one trip they look perfect fresh off the table, 4 months later I return, text them to come through and they look like a pack of biscuits busting out the package. After the third time of that happening to me, I started rescreening them over video chat before telling them to come through.

  4. #11879

    Brief summary

    I arrived in Cartagena this past Sunday, one day later than originally planned due to a snafu in preparing the on line immigration form now required by Colombia. Don't want to get into the details but make certain the information and dates you are inserting match up exactly with your passport information such as expiration date, passport number, exact match of your name etc. Also, it's better to prepare using a regular full screen computer monitor as some of the check boxes don't readily appear on your iPhone or iPad. This form also has an additional section regarding any exposure to COViD.

    In order for the airline to allow boarding, you must have a confirmation letter from immigration. Best to print it out and have it ready to show at the gate. I had problems and missed my first flight connection domestically and spent an extra day trying to reconnect my international flight to Cartagena. It was finally accepted and to some extent, I don't know why it was rejected several times even though the airline staff helped me input the data.

    So I am here now, somewhat frazzled from my experience. Nevertheless, I did check out Reloj on Sunday night and thought the talent left a lot to be desired. I did not enter any clubs until last night and tried LDV for my first venture. First, alcoholic non beer drinks are quite expensive $440 K for a Cuba Libre, though beer is $210 k so a bit easier on the wallet. I flirted with a fairly attractive Vennie from Caracas who was part Colombian so had a COL passport. Bought her a few beers and she returned the favor with some dirty dancing. I told her that my hotel does not allow guests up front and mentioned that I was going to Santa Marta on Saturday but when I returned I would be staying in a private apartment where guests are allowed. So with all that info, she still
    elected to hang out with me. She appeared to have a nice body but told me that she has 3 young children staying with her at her apartment in Bocagrande and her sister was also there. At one time, she went to the bathroom and it took all of one minute for someone else to try to slide into her spot but chased her away.

    So as far as the overall talent, I was not terribly impressed though there were a handful of lookers. I left when she returned from bathroom, wished her buen suerte and strolled back to my hotel. It was 1 am so wondering if this was peak time for LDV or does it get busier as the night wears on. We exchanged phone data via what's app so might contact her once my accommodations are more lenient with guests. Still not sure if there is a 2am curfew here or is it widely ignored?

  5. #11878
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    So I am in the elevator at the Hyatt, and I am with three "Afro American" women and they are married and well to do and now they start talking about plastic surgery. I got an ear full about injections here and there, tummy tucks, and booty jobs. They talked price, and it seemed much less than in the USA. It seems like these women are going to be coming to Cartagena time and again.
    Yes. They go to Bogota, Cali, and Santo Domingo by the ton. Many doctors from those places advertise specifically to them. Hardly ever someone you would actually suspect of having plastic surgery. If that is after, what the hell did they look like before? Usually seems to have been a big waste of money.

  6. #11877

    Yes mul

    In other American and Caribbean cultures, one might refer to Obama or someone with similar mixed race background as being mulatto though, as we know, this term is generally not used in the US. Of course, some Latin countries use the term mestizo for mixed race, usually Spanish and native race indigenous people.

    So Obama is referred to in general as an African American, as you know. Even though he has considerable Irish heritage from his mother's side of the family, I have not heard him referred to yet as Irish American (and doubt if I ever will).

    Quote Originally Posted by Golfinho  [View Original Post]
    While you're helping the readership with terminology, may I ask with no animus, if there's a term -- a current one -- that makes the distinction between the descendants of the enslaved and their attendant culture and those blacks in America such as, for example, Barry Obama?

  7. #11876

    Miss the Point

    Quote Originally Posted by HighOnTravel  [View Original Post]
    How much did you pay for those two? I got an offer for 2 girls fir 1 hour for $200 usd at Isis the other night. I declined and took home a stunner for $160 all night. Probably too expensive and I might have overpaid but she was a legit 9. Hot asf no tattoos said she just cane in from Cali.

    The girls in your pictures, no offense the typical trashy looking pros I see when I go out in centro at night. Just average looking skanks. Maybe I am too picky. But I don't feel like Columbian pros in Cartagena on average are that attractive at all. I also find their attitudes to be not so great.

    The pro I had from isis was freaking gorgeous though. Best ass and curves I have ever seen on a girl in that area. Petite with perfect curves and very smooth nice skin perfect legs beautiful face. Said she just arrived here from Cali the other day. I would move to Cali if they had a beach there. Seems like a paradise for single men. But this girl was a unicorn for the centro area standards. Put the girls in your pics to shame. All the other girls there that night looked like your typical tatted up average looking used up garbage like the ones in your pic. No offense LOL. Everyone has their own preferences.

    Normal non pro Columbian women can be very stunning though. I had a beautiful girl legit 8 last night who I have been chatting with for weeks on bumble come over to my place last night and drink with me on my balcony over the ocean. We started dancing and making out. She wanted me to use a condom. But I had a bad case of ED because I have been taking this medication called Lyrica lately. You cam get it over the counter here. It gives you a good high actually and is great for back pain. But it gas a nasty side effect of killing your libido. Really sucks because its fun to take haha.

    But yeah I couldn't get it up and I guess it ruined the experience for her. She went to the bathroom and said she didn't feel good here and was sorry but had to leave. I said no problem I understand. But she didn't ask for any taxi money or anything. Besides my ED we had a great time. Deank oyt on my balcony for hours listening to music dancing and kissing feeling up her perfect body. So was good for me ha. She sat she wants to meet again on Tuesday but I seriously doubt that will happen. I think she has an ex that she can't get over as well. All these dating app girls are aloha widowed it seems and using the app to get over the guy who pump and dumped her.

    But yeah, I will not take Lyrica for a few days because you have to get hard and pound these girls good and hard for them to keep coming back.
    You really missed my whole point I was not showing the photos or claiming they are top 7-8 or 9's but read more of my other post with 8-9's. I was responding to the post about cock roaches which I only found 1-2 and stated maybe I didn't see them because I was entertaining this nice young good pussy for 250,000 Cop each plus cab because they performed well.

    Never rated them as the best looking but just good fun. My 9.
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  8. #11875
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    I remember the HELP disco days in 2004 in Rio and watching middle aged white dudes strategizing with young black dudes on how to score women at Help. I laughed and thought, "That is really cool. Would these two groups of people ever have talked if they were back in the USA?" I will never forget Help as a place where tension just did not seem to reign. If you wanted drugs, drink, or pussy, you could have it no problem.

    The last time I was in Cartagena two months ago there were a lot of "Afro American" people, and I expected it. Shit, if I were making a decent living on the West Coast and did not want to deal with the bullshit cost of living, legal and financial price of drugs, and just having fun without being hassled, I would have left the West Coast and vacationed in Colombia as well. I saw this in Medellin, and I know that Afro American men like their Colombian and Brazilian booties but what I saw in CTG at the Hyatt that surprised me was how many "Afro American" women were there.

    So I am in the elevator at the Hyatt, and I am with three "Afro American" women and they are married and well to do and now they start talking about plastic surgery. I got an ear full about injections here and there, tummy tucks, and booty jobs. They talked price, and it seemed much less than in the USA. It seems like these women are going to be coming to Cartagena time and again.

    For those who mind the "Afro Americans", there is still Russia. Problem is you are not going to have beach time for a long time.
    When overseas were all the same, strangers in a foreign land going for a common goal. Once that plane lands back on US soil unless business partners, colleagues, or vets, its back to your corners arguing about views of shit that never happened in our lifetime.

    As for the "Afro American" women coming down in Cartagena. Woooooo on my last trip my flight was filled with them and they were ratchet. Loud when boarding and getting their seats, loud when going to use the bathroom for the 20th time, loud when getting their luggage from overhead bins and getting off the plane, then when they found out their friends who were in the back of the plane used the back staircase and got off the plane and made it to the immigration line before them they got even louder SMH. Then another set didn't have their shit together when going through immigration, held up the whole damn line cause they didn't have the information of where they were staying. I almost lost a lung on night I was outside Space talking to one of the door guys and one of them with a blue wig and her group tried to get in. The went in, 5 minutes later they came back out mad a hell talking about how they guy in there was ignoring them and was talking to the girls on the phone using the translator app. I ignored them too, I didn't fly 5 hours to talk to that.

    The plastic surgery thing is a whole other thing. Every trip there is always a group of "surgery sisters" who go in groups to get tummy tucks, but lifts, breast jobs, and their teeth fixed. Everyone next to them know their whole conversation at how loud they are, at the gate they are talking about it, on the plane they are talking about it, at a breakfast cafe they are talking about it, smh.

    Its the same thing in Sosua where mongers were complaining they left "the matrix" to their paradise away from the nonsense and then "martix women" invaded messing up their fun by trying to compete with the local women when they don't even have the shape jajaja.

  9. #11874

    Just suggestions

    Quote Originally Posted by HighOnTravel  [View Original Post]
    I never said don't go to the strip clubs. Wtf calm down man. My post is in reference to the pro scene in general here. Why would I want to take the 9's anywhere when I can go and try to find new ones? That's just dumb. Pro scene here is mediocre at best. Go state your types of clubs and prices. Doesn't matter. The eye test never lies.

    What have I done here besides chicas? I have one good non pro girl I have been seeing take me to a few islands. I like to attend the big church mass here in centro on Sundays. Mostly I just swim though every day and smoke a bit maybe pop some hydrocone pills or lyrica then a frw hours later drink a bit and go out. Am. Only averaging going out 2 nights a week though. I like my set up here in Cartagena though so will prob be staying longer. Was supposed to go to Panama end of next week.
    Context is important.

    Before you said your seeing the same girls every night and I'm thinking your going out 5, maybe 7 nights a week but now you actually put a number to it at averaging 2 nights a week I'm starting to kind of understand why your getting your results. Again, context is important, its not mentioned which days these are, but going out on a Tuesday night yield way different results VS going out on a Friday then there is also the time. If your averaging only going out 2 nights a week VS someone who goes out 7 nights a week its all a numbers game the more you see the more the opportunities to find what you want.

    I didn't say take the 9's out to places jajaja, I said to have them take you places as they would know other local spots that will make your trip more enjoyable. If they like you they will do it at no charge, the moment they mention paying for their time on top of you covering their expenses for food, drinks, activities, etc, show them the door. Have you done the Castillo de San Felipe tour? The biking tour inside the walls? The Segway tour? I've taken 2 tours there that tell the history of Cartagena and its was nice to know the history behind certain things. Like the women in the colourful dresses with the bowl of fruits on their heads, have a rich history and how they came to be. Those giant stone balls in Plaza de la Aduana looked like ordinary decorations or traffic obstructions to prevent large vehicles to drive through there but when the tour guide explained what they really were and I noticed how many of them they were, it home hard. Have you checked out Getsemani and the art work which also tells stories, its best to go early morning before 7 am while the stores are closed and vendors are not blocking the art work. If art isn't your thing it can be tossed out the window. But still visit for the local nightlife and food especially Plaza de la Trinidad (I believe the locals call it Independence circle), good history behind it as well. Have you checked out Centro Comercial La Serrezuela, up scale shopping mall with lots of food options. These are all things that can be done with or without a chica to give you a broader view of Cartagena.

    You say you have a non pro girl and she's taking you to a few islands, ok cool. You have a non pro, she should be taking you to do non tourist stuff as you can do the tourist stuff without her, If she's paying for her own food, drinks, and boat ticket to the islands when she's with you then cool but if your the one covering the expenses when doing tourist islands then you're essentially taking her on all paid expense vacation. She should be taking you away from the tourist stuff, nothing dangerous just non touristy. A change in location brings a change of perspective. All these are just suggestions because its not how the trip starts its how it ends, and the ending of a trip can change the memory of a trip.

    Well if you don't make that flight to Panama we will know you're actually enjoying Cartagena despite the lack of chicas jajaja.

  10. #11873
    Quote Originally Posted by GrownMan1  [View Original Post]
    African Americans have arrived? WTF! Who the hell let them in? How did they get a passport? Did they touch you? I bet they were sitting around being well. African Americans. The last time I was there I warned a group of black guys from New York this could happen. You should have called the police Karen.
    I remember the HELP disco days in 2004 in Rio and watching middle aged white dudes strategizing with young black dudes on how to score women at Help. I laughed and thought, "That is really cool. Would these two groups of people ever have talked if they were back in the USA?" I will never forget Help as a place where tension just did not seem to reign. If you wanted drugs, drink, or pussy, you could have it no problem.

    The last time I was in Cartagena two months ago there were a lot of "Afro American" people, and I expected it. Shit, if I were making a decent living on the West Coast and did not want to deal with the bullshit cost of living, legal and financial price of drugs, and just having fun without being hassled, I would have left the West Coast and vacationed in Colombia as well. I saw this in Medellin, and I know that Afro American men like their Colombian and Brazilian booties but what I saw in CTG at the Hyatt that surprised me was how many "Afro American" women were there.

    So I am in the elevator at the Hyatt, and I am with three "Afro American" women and they are married and well to do and now they start talking about plastic surgery. I got an ear full about injections here and there, tummy tucks, and booty jobs. They talked price, and it seemed much less than in the USA. It seems like these women are going to be coming to Cartagena time and again.

    For those who mind the "Afro Americans", there is still Russia. Problem is you are not going to have beach time for a long time.

  11. #11872
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomasb  [View Original Post]
    Here is a definition of that term:

    Outdated synonym for African American. Although not a derogatory term, avoid when possible. Use Black or African American if appropriate.

    Plus the context in which you used the term suggests, however unintentional, some animus.
    While you're helping the readership with terminology, may I ask with no animus, if there's a term -- a current one -- that makes the distinction between the descendants of the enslaved and their attendant culture and those blacks in America such as, for example, Barry Obama?

  12. #11871
    Quote Originally Posted by Nypher  [View Original Post]
    Every time I write up a post that go into too much detail it never seems to get approved to be posted.

    I had a decent write up reply to your post here http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...822&viewfull=1#post2614822 but it disappeared into the ether. The reply explained the type of mongers and women inside all three clubs, prices some pay vs what I pay, etc but it seems that it was never approved to be posted.

    I wish you best in doing what ever your doing. Its your trip and it is what you make of it.

    You're all over the place. Your taking drugs that gives you ED but still trying to get chicas for what reason?

    Then your telling others don't go to the strip clubs because they rip people off which is what is echoed on this forum, but then you say you are going to ISIS paying $160 for what you consider a 9 in your book so your still talking to them in dollars.

    I'm not understanding why if you already had a few that you consider stunners, top level in your book, why don't you just get their numbers and keep seeing them? Have them take you to different places instead of the same puta scenes so you can make the best out of your trip rather than constantly complaining about the lack of talent? You're on week 3 or 4, what have you done besides constantly trying to find chicas.
    I never said don't go to the strip clubs. Wtf calm down man. My post is in reference to the pro scene in general here. Why would I want to take the 9's anywhere when I can go and try to find new ones? That's just dumb. Pro scene here is mediocre at best. Go state your types of clubs and prices. Doesn't matter. The eye test never lies.

    What have I done here besides chicas? I have one good non pro girl I have been seeing take me to a few islands. I like to attend the big church mass here in centro on Sundays. Mostly I just swim though every day and smoke a bit maybe pop some hydrocone pills or lyrica then a frw hours later drink a bit and go out. Am. Only averaging going out 2 nights a week though. I like my set up here in Cartagena though so will prob be staying longer. Was supposed to go to Panama end of next week.

  13. #11870

    Afro american

    Here is a definition of that term:

    “Outdated synonym for African American. Although not a derogatory term, avoid when possible. Use Black or African American if appropriate.”

    Plus the context in which you used the term suggests, however unintentional, some animus.

  14. #11869
    Quote Originally Posted by GrownMan1  [View Original Post]
    You should have called the police Karen.
    Laughing my fucking ass off.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    LOL. Arrived? Isn't Cartagena primarily composed of Afro Americans? If you google "people Cartagena" pretty much all you will see is Americans of African descent.
    I guess he skipped the tour of Santuario de San Pedro Claver which demonstrates that they arrived 500 years ago. So his news is a little late.

  15. #11868
    Quote Originally Posted by Adinga  [View Original Post]
    .
    African Americans have arrived? WTF! Who the hell let them in? How did they get a passport? Did they touch you? I bet they were sitting around being well. African Americans. The last time I was there I warned a group of black guys from New York this could happen. You should have called the police Karen.

    Are you sure they were not Haitian? The last time I was in Cali; my friend and I were mistaken for Haitians twice by locals. How did you know the difference? Did you get close enough to smell their cologne?

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