Cancun

[Elvis 2008]

Elvis,

I agree with everything you said and love if definitely possible, but when there is jealousy involved at the beginning of a relationship it is a real bad sign. This can either be the woman or the dude.

Either way it will not get better. Unfortunately this is the case with k. Beans and the bad news is they are both jealous.

DF,

The worst form of jealousy is when a man is with a woman who thinks she is better than him, and he puts her down, beats her, or controls her so she will not leave. That type of jealousy is toxic, and you are right that is a situation that needs to be avoided.

This is a little different I think because it has to do with expectations. The girl here probably expected the guy to just be with her and the guy by not being with just her makes her feel insecure and inadequate. The solution for the guy is to either be honest and say he is going to see other people or commit to her. Most women know if a guy is off seeing someone else. If you are being faithful, and the woman is still bitching all the time, then the woman has a psych disorder like borderline and it is time to get out. Most women are probably doing a hundred shit tests a day to see if you are being faithful anyway.

BTW, the only Mexican woman I was halfway serious with was a lawyer in CDMX with borderline. Her fear of my leaving her was definitely psychotic, and once I saw what she was, I got the fuck out. Bipolars and borderlines are great fucks, but they are not relationship material. LOL.

As for knowing if the woman is fucking around on you to me, that is easy. Are they passionate or not? I do not think many women can fake fucking with passion. The sex life with my ex-fiancé going down hill was the warning sign I missed. If a woman really cares about you and loves you, she wants to fuck you day and night. My gal cannot get enough sex right now. Seriously.

I think jealousy for men is due to their putting a woman on a pedestal, and the men thinking that if they were better the women would not have fucked around on them. The guys want to believe they are inadequate but in reality it is just a woman being a ho, and if she is a ho, you are better off without her. Winning back a woman by being good is just more Hollywood bullshit. Every time in my life I thought a woman was special or a unicorn and I would not find another one like her, I would always find someone better. Once a guy really understands that, the insecurity goes away.

It is ironic then that my current gal is probably the only one I have dated who really would be hard to replace. However, I am not jealous because if it does not work out with her, I would go back to my old life and dating many women at once, and that life did not suck. It is just not rational for me to be jealous, and I think jealousy can subside once a person gets more secure.

With me, I grew from relationships, and I just think that this pain avoidance so often gets in the way of people really growing. With every relationship I had, even the failed ones, my confidence and security grew.

[RamDavidson84]

My schedule doesn't allow for more time so we packed the schedule as much as possible. Short 4 day trip, but we both enjoyed it. I also am confused about the relationship as we go out together with her cousin and friends to movies and bars, but not sure if it is the sugar baby / daddy arrangement or boyfriend. She says it is a "real" relationship and that I'm her boyfriend, but as always kind of cynical. We are going to be looking at apartments together next week and hope to spend more time together in Tijuana. She said she decided to move from GDL to Tijuana for me, but also same thought is why would she depend so much on me.

The only thing I do for her is $300 per week and any emergencies that may arise which havent occurred as of yet. The internship she was going to do in GDL would have been her working 5 days per week for 6 hours a day and they would pay her $300 for the month. If I move down to TJ, then Ill pickup the tab for rent as it shouldnt be more than $1k. The same girl I used to pay $300 just for a TLN and then progressively the relationship turned into I just pay her a week. It is still odd arrangement, but works for me as I would have been spending $200-$300 for TLN with other regulars.

I appreciate your level headed approach to both the game / mongering and your posts on the forum, good writes and thanks for sharing.

[Elvis 2008]

She lights my soul on fire and it feels dangerous. I also read the boards and remain cynical at times and she is so hot that I question why she would be interested. I know a man with resources is definitely a hot commodity compared to a local novio. I don't speak Spanish, but she invites me out with her friends and cousins for outings to movies and bars. I know jealousy will kill the relationship and always have that little thought in the back of my mind that she is seeing other people as she has a rather large social media following. I understand that if she wanted to cheat, then totally out of my control so why worry as jealousy will eat you alive.

Every time a woman bangs another man, her societal value and self-worth go down. My ex-fiancé cheated on me, but it was partly my fault because I left her be for four months. By the way, it is way more than just your money she is interested in. It is a privilege to be around a man who has made it in the world and the women grow just by being near someone like you or me and seeing how you and I think. I had to unlearn the Hollywood BS and realize that I really was a better lover, better company, and better than these guys who may be better looking than me but have no fucking clue with life. The horror stories my gal tells me about the men she dates and how jealous they were are just unreal.

My ex-fiancé cheated and denied it, but it was funny what bugged me about it was not that she cheated but that I was stupidly loyal to her when in hindsight it was obvious she was cheating. I am pissed that I was in Latin America and was getting rejected by her when I was in a position to be banging strange on the cheap. I was mad at myself for being so blind to what she was doing.

As for that social media shit, that has got to be the biggest BS stunt I have met in my life. Fortunately, I had a female friend tell me there is zero money in it despite what you read on line. I met this girl who really is as hot as her photos on seeking. Go to instagram.com and search for gaby_valenciar.

She does have a legit 200,000+ followers and I know because I offered to buy her more and she turned it down.

Thing is she lives in Mexico City in a apartment that is $600 a month, and she supposedly lost all her modeling gigs with Covid. I really do not know how much they paid. What I do know is that she did not have much when I saw her, and all the glamourous places she had been to were paid on someone's else's dime. Things did not work out between us, and I am glad they did not. Thing is I could have sewed her up for $1000 to $1500 per month easily. All those IG followers are not worth squat. All they do is artificially inflate a woman's self-worth.

If she is showing you off to family and friends, she is into you and that teary session when you told her you were seeing other women supports it. I am glad you are going forward with the relationship, and it sounds like if you two could trust each other more, it could work. Yeah, my gal was weary of how many women I saw but I have been committed to seeing her every 2 to 4 weeks, and those fears are going away.

And if she does cheat on you? So what? Then you know she is not the one and it is a fucking blessing. I have been through hundreds of women and dozens of SBs and there were maybe two SBs that I miss a little. Most all women are parasites especially the pretty ones. It is rare to find one who really wants to be part of a productive couple.

Anyway, keep us informed on the relationship, and all things considered Cancun may be the best playground to meet not just Mexican women but Latin women as a whole. So we should share tips on the region for sure. It is a place where the women can travel to from South America without a visa and lately, I do not think the Mexican Customs have been given the South American women too much crap.

I am a Titanium Marriott member who should be up to Ambassador next month, and I appreciate the tip on the Cancun Marriott. I am excited to check that place out.

[DramaFree11]

I love the story Kool Beans. I won't go into my history too much, but I took two women to Cancun and then three and had a blast, however the week before the perpetual foursome, I took a girl to Cancun and have been with her and only her after my epic foursome week.

What I wanted to tell you is that there is a culture on this board I had to reject before I got my current gal. Back in 2017, I got engaged to a really hot Venezuelan that I fell for and moved to Peru. She behaved just like everyone here would expect in a negative way. She hid her social media from me and then showed the world an Instagram page not with me on it but this muscle bound male model and spoke of love with him. We were engaged, and I met her family, but the truth is that I did not feel loved in the end and am happy things did not work out. I was blind to the fact that she was a narcissist, and our breakup was a blessing. In the mean time, she tried so hard to show how great her life was on social media but the truth is her life went way down hill without me. Seeing how shitty her life was without me was actually confidence enhancing.

Elvis,

I agree with everything you said and love if definitely possible, but when there is jealousy involved at the beginning of a relationship it is a real bad sign. This can either be the woman or the dude.

Either way it will not get better. Unfortunately this is the case with k. Beans and the bad news is they are both jealous.

[Member #4730]

Well it seems to me that she sees this relationship more as a "Sugar Daddy Sugar Baby" thing compared to wanting something serious. I'm not sure if this matters to you as you may not be wanting a real relationship and are very happ with this set up as the sex is good and you have a travel companion. Especially since you were in a relationship before you might not be interested in one now and just want to have fun. I would say in Mexico this is common as successful business men will have a mistress and pay her expenses, I think most successful guys tend to do this it's just not as open in the US.

Your trip seemed great you just seemed to be going all over the place and never had time to relax. Next time I think you need to stay at least a week. I'm impressed with how much you did in such a short amount of time.

My schedule doesn't allow for more time so we packed the schedule as much as possible. Short 4 day trip, but we both enjoyed it. I also am confused about the relationship as we go out together with her cousin and friends to movies and bars, but not sure if it is the sugar baby / daddy arrangement or boyfriend. She says it is a "real" relationship and that I'm her boyfriend, but as always kind of cynical. We are going to be looking at apartments together next week and hope to spend more time together in Tijuana. She said she decided to move from GDL to Tijuana for me, but also same thought is why would she depend so much on me.

The only thing I do for her is $300 per week and any emergencies that may arise which havent occurred as of yet. The internship she was going to do in GDL would have been her working 5 days per week for 6 hours a day and they would pay her $300 for the month. If I move down to TJ, then Ill pickup the tab for rent as it shouldnt be more than $1k. The same girl I used to pay $300 just for a TLN and then progressively the relationship turned into I just pay her a week. It is still odd arrangement, but works for me as I would have been spending $200-$300 for TLN with other regulars.

[Member #4730]

I love the story Kool Beans. I won't go into my history too much, but I took two women to Cancun and then three and had a blast, however the week before the perpetual foursome, I took a girl to Cancun and have been with her and only her after my epic foursome week.

What I wanted to tell you is that there is a culture on this board I had to reject before I got my current gal. Back in 2017, I got engaged to a really hot Venezuelan that I fell for and moved to Peru. She behaved just like everyone here would expect in a negative way. She hid her social media from me and then showed the world an Instagram page not with me on it but this muscle bound male model and spoke of love with him. We were engaged, and I met her family, but the truth is that I did not feel loved in the end and am happy things did not work out. I was blind to the fact that she was a narcissist, and our breakup was a blessing. In the mean time, she tried so hard to show how great her life was on social media but the truth is her life went way down hill without me. Seeing how shitty her life was without me was actually confidence enhancing.

The advice the board gave was stupid. Do not fall for one woman. Women are just out for money and nothing else, and the women really want to hang out with their local novios / boyfriend. You cannot have a long distance relationship. What really is going on is a lot of men here have been so badly hurt that they just want to stay in strictly P4P relationships.

I used seeking.com and went on a bunch more dates. I am mid 50's and after dating a lot, I actually had four women in their 20's tell me they loved me. Just like their beauty was part of it, I am not nave to think that my money had nothing to do with it, however, I had to unlearn what this board's conventional wisdom was and really believe these women had feelings for me.

I met my current gal off of seeking, and I almost blew it with her. She is 32, a model, turns heads everywhere we go, and gets upset if she does not fuck me 3 X a day. In fact, she is so fucking hot that I thought she only could be with for money, but she has not been. She still has not asked me for a dime.

So I just want to tell you it is possible to have a real relationship with a woman. Okay, your gal works at Hong Kong, and the line "it is your money" and the luggage stuff sounds like a woman capable of taking advantage of you. OTOH, she did not charge you. Like I said, these girls are starved for fun, and you showed her a great time.

Guys can call what I have had as a hooker on retainer or whatever other else, but I got so fed up with the sugar baby / GF versus pro difference, I listed a series of questions to distinguish between the two. This is a repeat.

Maybe this is not the right girl for you, but I will tell you when it is the right one, you will not care how much it costs. You will do anything to see her. I have cherished every second I have had with my gal, and it almost did not happen because I almost believed a woman this hot could not be into me. I just do not want you to believe that a really hot woman can fall for you too. Women can easily fall for a guy who shows them a good time like you did.

I am not sure what you mean by you are not sure if you can trust her. Maybe take her on a short trip and see how it goes. She was talking an arrangement, travel, and relationship, and that is great.

You see the thing is that there are so many guys here who do not want to get hurt and taken advantage of, but that is how you grow. I would not have found my dream girl unless I had that nightmare engagement and maybe it is the time in your life to embrace and learn from relationships, even painful ones. Banging a bunch of hot good for nothing hos gets old pretty fucking quick.

Thanks for your insight. I have done multiple short 3-4 days trips with this regular. She is in university for her final year and quit working at HK when school started. She flew from GDL to Tijuana to celebrate my birthday in Rosarito. She brought a leather wallet and a heart ornament as gifts when I told her I have everything I ever want in life and to just make sure not to miss the flight. My story is that I have been separated and ending a 20+ year marriage. I wasn't expecting to get so close to bar girls, but I've met some wonderful ladies in Tijuana that have welcomed me into their homes.

This regular was on the top of my list from my worldwide travels and not new to mongering. Been around the world since 2005 and met many ladies. She lights my soul on fire and it feels dangerous. I also read the boards and remain cynical at times and she is so hot that I question why she would be interested. I know a man with resources is definitely a hot commodity compared to a local novio. I don't speak Spanish, but she invites me out with her friends and cousins for outings to movies and bars. I know jealousy will kill the relationship and always have that little thought in the back of my mind that she is seeing other people as she has a rather large social media following. I understand that if she wanted to cheat, then totally out of my control so why worry as jealousy will eat you alive.

When she met me for my birthday, we were apart for almost 1-2 months. She would send me random nudes and tell me te quiero, which is different than te amo. I didn't think anything of it as I thought she was sending these to everyone she has ever met. I resumed seeing my other regulars. Me being an honest guy told her about all of the others when she asked if I was with anyone while we've been apart. She broke down in the car and had to put a sweater over her head so I couldn't see her crying. I drove her from Rosarito to her apartment and the hour long ride was painful. In that moment, I realized I was more than just a friend that provided support. She told her family I was her "fake" boyfriend and actually started to believe it. Her family doesn't know she works at the bar as she is from a small town in Sinaloa. The only person that knows is her aunt that used to work in HK 20+ years ago. I have bare sex with all of the regulars I see, so didn't think it was anything special with this particular one, but she said her aunt warned her to use protection. She told her aunt she trusts me and that is where it made the situation worse.

She is extremely jealous now since she knows I have time and money to be with anyone. I tell her she is beautiful and intelligent to meet anyone she is interested in. We are going to start looking at apartments together next week and see how it works out. We agreed on a set number of days during the week I'd be living in Tijuana since I have obligations in the USA And not sure if living together will make things better or worse. We have a trip to Paris over New Years as that was always her dream and I told her it is her graduation gift even though it is a year early. I will document on Tijuana boards the good and bad of whatever results as I am transparent and like to go back to read my thoughts in that moment. This board is almost like my personal journal sharing with random strangers around the world.

[Sol12]

We talked about future travel, relationship, etc. I was not sure if it was serious or fake and said I didn't know if I could trust her and probably just best to stay friends. Also said it isn't a traditional way of meeting someone in the bar and I never provided monetary support to my previous girlfriends.

She said it is common in Mexico and her girlfriend in college had her rent paid, weekly allowance, car, and misc. Expenses paid for by some guy that was married. I said I'd help her and gave her a certain time limit as I thought she was graduating in May of next year, but she said it isn't until Dec of next year. She starts to cry as she assumes I'm leaving her. She says that even though she worked in the bar that bar girls have feelings too and the work was out of necessity to make ends meet.

I just hold her while she is crying and then head to the room. We get to the room and she dresses in some lingerie and gave me a look, but with her crying it threw off my mood. The night felt like a bad marriage with our backs to each other and she played some sad songs on YouTube. I never heard of the Bruno Mars song "Talking to the moon" and felt sad, but I was so tired from the water park that I must have fell asleep. I woke up and saw her on the other side of the bed so assumed she didn't want to be touched. I couldn't go back to sleep and eventually we were spooning. A hot session and she asks why I was so cold last night. I told her it is a weird arrangement that I'm not accustomed too and she said it is my money and free to do whatever. More to follow in day 4.

Well it seems to me that she sees this relationship more as a "Sugar Daddy Sugar Baby" thing compared to wanting something serious. I'm not sure if this matters to you as you may not be wanting a real relationship and are very happ with this set up as the sex is good and you have a travel companion. Especially since you were in a relationship before you might not be interested in one now and just want to have fun. I would say in Mexico this is common as successful business men will have a mistress and pay her expenses, I think most successful guys tend to do this it's just not as open in the US.

Your trip seemed great you just seemed to be going all over the place and never had time to relax. Next time I think you need to stay at least a week. I'm impressed with how much you did in such a short amount of time.

[Tomasb]

I am a bit surprised to not see any reports on the gang shoot out in Tulum last week that left two tourists dead and a few more injured. The tourists were not involved in the incident directly but were caught in the middle of this shooting while sitting in a cafe. It took place on a popular street that sort of resembles a smaller version of La Quinta Avenida in PDC. Apparently, many of these gangs are demanding protection money now in Tulum as they are doing in PDC, and have for many years been terrorizing merchants in Cancun with the same demands.

One of the tourists killed was a woman who had a blog YouTube style video of her travels in the area. Since Tulum has a reputation for being a cool and chill place, and quite expensive, this incident could have devastating consequences on the economy there and in Quintana Roo in general.

If anyone has any further news on this, please report it.

[Elvis 2008]

We arrived at Marriott Cancun and it is the best one I've stayed at in all of my world travels. They upgraded me to a Caribbean 1 BR suite with balcony overlooking the ocean. I was amazed at the hotel, room, and restaurants. We didn't get a chance to use the pool or jacuzzi as they close around 10 or 11 pm. We ended up eating at the Thai restaurant which was decent, but expensive as it is a hotel restaurant. After dinner we walk to the ocean and sit on the beach loungers. We thought we were the only ones, but another couple was about 10 loungers away from us, but out of view. We talked about future travel, relationship, etc. I was not sure if it was serious or fake and said I didn't know if I could trust her and probably just best to stay friends. Also said it isn't a traditional way of meeting someone in the bar and I never provided monetary support to my previous girlfriends.

She said it is common in Mexico and her girlfriend in college had her rent paid, weekly allowance, car, and misc. Expenses paid for by some guy that was married. I said I'd help her and gave her a certain time limit as I thought she was graduating in May of next year, but she said it isn't until Dec of next year. She starts to cry as she assumes I'm leaving her. She says that even though she worked in the bar that bar girls have feelings too and the work was out of necessity to make ends meet.

I just hold her while she is crying and then head to the room. We get to the room and she dresses in some lingerie and gave me a look, but with her crying it threw off my mood. The night felt like a bad marriage with our backs to each other and she played some sad songs on YouTube. I never heard of the Bruno Mars song "Talking to the moon" and felt sad, but I was so tired from the water park that I must have fell asleep. I woke up and saw her on the other side of the bed so assumed she didn't want to be touched. I couldn't go back to sleep and eventually we were spooning. A hot session and she asks why I was so cold last night. I told her it is a weird arrangement that I'm not accustomed too and she said it is my money and free to do whatever. More to follow in day 4.

I love the story Kool Beans. I won't go into my history too much, but I took two women to Cancun and then three and had a blast, however the week before the perpetual foursome, I took a girl to Cancun and have been with her and only her after my epic foursome week.

What I wanted to tell you is that there is a culture on this board I had to reject before I got my current gal. Back in 2017, I got engaged to a really hot Venezuelan that I fell for and moved to Peru. She behaved just like everyone here would expect in a negative way. She hid her social media from me and then showed the world an Instagram page not with me on it but this muscle bound male model and spoke of love with him. We were engaged, and I met her family, but the truth is that I did not feel loved in the end and am happy things did not work out. I was blind to the fact that she was a narcissist, and our breakup was a blessing. In the mean time, she tried so hard to show how great her life was on social media but the truth is her life went way down hill without me. Seeing how shitty her life was without me was actually confidence enhancing.

The advice the board gave was stupid. Do not fall for one woman. Women are just out for money and nothing else, and the women really want to hang out with their local novios / boyfriend. You cannot have a long distance relationship. What really is going on is a lot of men here have been so badly hurt that they just want to stay in strictly P4P relationships.

I used seeking.com and went on a bunch more dates. I am mid 50's and after dating a lot, I actually had four women in their 20's tell me they loved me. Just like their beauty was part of it, I am not naïve to think that my money had nothing to do with it, however, I had to unlearn what this board's conventional wisdom was and really believe these women had feelings for me.

I met my current gal off of seeking, and I almost blew it with her. She is 32, a model, turns heads everywhere we go, and gets upset if she does not fuck me 3 X a day. In fact, she is so fucking hot that I thought she only could be with for money, but she has not been. She still has not asked me for a dime.

So I just want to tell you it is possible to have a real relationship with a woman. Okay, your gal works at Hong Kong, and the line "it is your money" and the luggage stuff sounds like a woman capable of taking advantage of you. OTOH, she did not charge you. Like I said, these girls are starved for fun, and you showed her a great time.

Any knucklehead on here can spout off the usual BS about the women being interested in their local novios, they are only interested in money, and they are playing you. It takes guts to put yourself out there and you are not going to get much encouragement here, but I am just here to tell you it is possible. I have met women in Colombia and Mexico who were interested in my being their BF. It just was not until this one that everything felt right.

Guys can call what I have had as a hooker on retainer or whatever other else, but I got so fed up with the sugar baby / GF versus pro difference, I listed a series of questions to distinguish between the two. This is a repeat.

Do prostitutes fuck you bare?

Do prostitutes cook you meals?

Do prostitutes drive you around in their car?

Do prostitutes buy you thoughtful gifts?

Do prostitutes text you and say "I was thinking about you and just wanted to say Hi"?

Do prostitutes introduce you to their friends or family?

Do prostitutes do your laundry?

Do prostitutes pack your suitcase?

Do prostitutes cry when you leave?

Do prostitutes tell you they love you and mean it?

Do you sleep in your room with prostitutes and leave your wallet out open to the world?

Do prostitutes massage your neck the whole time on a 2 hour drive?

Do prostitutes do whatever you ask for in the bed room?

Do prostitutes whine if they do not get it 3 X a day?

Do prostitutes not ask for money after sex?

Do prostitutes ever just sleep with one guy?

Do prostitutes run across a crowded airport with a huge smile and jump into your arms when they first see you?

Yes, all these have happened to me and with more than one girl.

Maybe this is not the right girl for you, but I will tell you when it is the right one, you will not care how much it costs. You will do anything to see her. I have cherished every second I have had with my gal, and it almost did not happen because I almost believed a woman this hot could not be into me. I just do not want you to believe that a really hot woman can fall for you too. Women can easily fall for a guy who shows them a good time like you did.

I am not sure what you mean by you are not sure if you can trust her. Maybe take her on a short trip and see how it goes. She was talking an arrangement, travel, and relationship, and that is great.

You see the thing is that there are so many guys here who do not want to get hurt and taken advantage of, but that is how you grow. I would not have found my dream girl unless I had that nightmare engagement and maybe it is the time in your life to embrace and learn from relationships, even painful ones. Banging a bunch of hot good for nothing hos gets old pretty fucking quick.

[Member #4730]

So the last day in Cancun we have to find something to do as time is limited. We end up having a hot session, I mean really hot as she wanted to keep the sliding door open and turn off the AC. The humidity during sex really got me sweating and she kept trying to wipe my face as the sweat was pouring all over her face and body. I guess that is the one pet peeve I have with her, but sex is always amazing. We take a shower and start to pack our stuff. We go downstairs to the breakfast buffet which had a nice spread in one of the on site restaurants.

After breakfast we were going to go downstairs and hit the beach, but the Aquaworld guys suggested the jet ski or paragliding as we needed to have a short activity as checkout was at 2 pm and she also had to dial into one of her classes. The Aquaworld reps told us their booth was 3 hotels away, but it managed to be 6-8 hotels away and when we arrived the Aquaworld rep laughed and said the Marriott Aquaworld rep is a liar. We signed a waiver and off we went on a jet ski and put onto a boat. The paraglide isn't a harness, but a bench that has no seat belts and relies on the parachute to keep the bench leaning backwards so you don't fall out.

We got onto the bench and flew around for about 10-15 minutes and it was unique compared to traditional paragliding with a harness around your torso. The bench was more relaxing and less intrusive, but scary at the same time as you're not strapped in. I would recommend doing it again. I think the price was $130 for 2 people.

We check out and she has to login to one of her classes. After her class, we go eat at the Champion sports bar and the food was decent, but not great. After the meal we decide to go to Soriano at a luxury mall to get her MoneyGram I sent a week ago. We do some shopping and get her some sunglasses at sunglass hut and I get a pair since the second pair is 30% off. She seems to appreciate the kind gesture as she isn't charging me for the trip. We take the rental back to the airport and check in for the flight. The flight back to Tijuana from Cancun was packed and only a few seats were vacant. She provided more pda and feeds me Tostitos with the Japanese bean / nut snack she enjoys.

During the flight she says her aunt needs a favor to bring luggage to the USA And I was kind of skeptical as the first thought was she was trying to make me a mule. I told her I trust her, but not her family members. She reassured me that it wasn't anything illegal and I'm free to look in the luggage. We landed and I was walking to CBX, but noticed that the aunt wouldn't be able to bring the luggage into the arrivals area as it was manned by security and scanners. I said I have to go back via CBX and she seemed confused as she must have promised her aunt I'd do the favor. I didn't want to leave the arrivals and have to try and manage my way back to the CBX gate so we just hugged and parted ways. Overall a great trip and would repeat minus the frustration and jealousy from the 3rd night that almost derailed an overall wonderful trip. Next time will stay in PDC or Tulum and visit Xplor, Akumal, and Tulum cenotes and other cultural sites.

[DramaFree11]

Geisha Academy has girls all over Mexico and Colombia. Give them a look. They're usually on the higher end, but it sounds like that won't be an issue for you. Most hotels in the Hotel Zone are girl friendly and won't care, because people from other hotels routinely hook up, but the all-inclusive can sometimes give you grief for bringing in an outside guest. If you're staying at one of them, expect some friction, but it's nothing money won't solve.

Yes, bar girls have feelings, but when they are jealous and cause drama, it is time to cut your losses.

[Member #4730]

We wake up to another hot session as always and we shower to get ready for Xel ha. We pack and check out of the Airbnb and on the road by 11 am toward downtown Tulum to try and find a place to get the tire patched. We arrived at a Michelin tire store off the freeway and the guys took the flat tire, patched it, and changed it out for 200 pesos. I tipped them 200 pesos as I'm glad they changed the tire instead of me having to do it.

We eventually get to Xel ha and the water park seems to be similar to Xcaret, but they offer more water activities. We didn't buy any packages and all of the food and beverages are free with a wrist band which is a big plus over Xcaret. The lockers were also free. We decide to snorkel and get the free mask and snorkel for the park. The snorkeling area is a lot larger than Xcaret and we spend a good couple hours in the area. We decide we are hungry and head to one of the buffets, but the food is average and expected for a water park. At least it is free food along with the drinks at the bar. We got a couple of pina coladas and on our way to the river and cenote area. We swim in the cold river and end up walking to a cenote area that we are not allowed to swim in.

We end up at a cliff jump which was about 8-10 ft. High and the regular is afraid of the concept of jumping from the ledge into the water so I said I'll do it first and she can follow. I get up to the ledge and jump which was a brief second of air time and then hit the water. She decided she should try, but with her life vest since she isn't a good swimmer. She gets up to the ledge and jumps off after the lady before her chickens out. I took video footage and she seemed to enjoy the rush. The next thing she wants to do is check out the manatees, but we walk and it seemed far away. We were running out of time as I wanted to go down the large water slide. She didn't want to go down the water slide, but I told her that is what they use to advertise the park and everyone is going to ask if she went down the slide. I told her she would regret it.

We both decide to ditch the manatees and head over to the water slide. The walk up the spiral staircase to the top of the water slide was a workout. The views at the top were scary to me as I'm afraid of heights and you can see the whole park with 360 degree views. We wait for our turn to go down the slide and notice people walking back down the stairs and not sure if they changed their mind. It is our turn and we go down the slide. She goes first and I go second. The slide is slow, but then gradually picks up speed. It was actually pretty fun and I reached the bottom before she did. I managed to get a bunch of salt water up my nose and she got a bunch in her mouth.

At this time, it is around 445 pm and the restaurants close at 5 pm. We make it to the buffet and it is decent for a water park. Xel ha is great as it has plenty of activities to exercise, free food, and beverages. After eating, the park closes at 6 pm and we head to the rental car and drive towards Cancun. Everything was decent and everyone was driving about 120 kmh plus. Once we got to the freeway portion entering hotel zone, I was following behind other cars at a steady speed of around 100 kmh. Somehow I was the one that was targeted by the policia to pull over. They said I was doing 81 kmh and it is supposed to be 60 kmh. They said I owe equivalent of $200 for speeding and it would go on my record. I said I didn't have any cash, but my regular gave them $50. It was enough for them to let me go and on our way to Marriott.

We arrived at Marriott Cancun and it is the best one I've stayed at in all of my world travels. They upgraded me to a Caribbean 1 BR suite with balcony overlooking the ocean. I was amazed at the hotel, room, and restaurants. We didn't get a chance to use the pool or jacuzzi as they close around 10 or 11 pm. We ended up eating at the Thai restaurant which was decent, but expensive as it is a hotel restaurant. After dinner we walk to the ocean and sit on the beach loungers. We thought we were the only ones, but another couple was about 10 loungers away from us, but out of view. We talked about future travel, relationship, etc. I was not sure if it was serious or fake and said I didn't know if I could trust her and probably just best to stay friends. Also said it isn't a traditional way of meeting someone in the bar and I never provided monetary support to my previous girlfriends.

She said it is common in Mexico and her girlfriend in college had her rent paid, weekly allowance, car, and misc. Expenses paid for by some guy that was married. I said I'd help her and gave her a certain time limit as I thought she was graduating in May of next year, but she said it isn't until Dec of next year. She starts to cry as she assumes I'm leaving her. She says that even though she worked in the bar that bar girls have feelings too and the work was out of necessity to make ends meet.

I just hold her while she is crying and then head to the room. We get to the room and she dresses in some lingerie and gave me a look, but with her crying it threw off my mood. The night felt like a bad marriage with our backs to each other and she played some sad songs on YouTube. I never heard of the Bruno Mars song "Talking to the moon" and felt sad, but I was so tired from the water park that I must have fell asleep. I woke up and saw her on the other side of the bed so assumed she didn't want to be touched. I couldn't go back to sleep and eventually we were spooning. A hot session and she asks why I was so cold last night. I told her it is a weird arrangement that I'm not accustomed too and she said it is my money and free to do whatever. More to follow in day 4.

[ClownDays]

Gents,

Was hoping to get your collective advice on something. I'll be on a fellas golf trip with a few other guys who are probably not down to partake in the hobby (with the possible exception of maybe a strip club visit). I won't have time to mess around with trying to find a bar girl for take-out or hitting the massage houses. I could possibly roll the dice on trying to find an independent on one of the service provider websites, but if someone can recommend a reliable agency, that would probably be my preferred route. I'm happy to pay up for good quality and good service if it's available. There's also some debate about whether we stay in Cancun proper or in PDC, so if anyone has any thoughts on that, I'the be curious to hear as well. Thanks in advance for your help!

Cheers,

CD.

Geisha Academy has girls all over Mexico and Colombia. Give them a look. They're usually on the higher end, but it sounds like that won't be an issue for you. Most hotels in the Hotel Zone are girl friendly and won't care, because people from other hotels routinely hook up, but the all-inclusive can sometimes give you grief for bringing in an outside guest. If you're staying at one of them, expect some friction, but it's nothing money won't solve.

[CityDweller]

Gents,

Was hoping to get your collective advice on something. I'll be on a fellas golf trip with a few other guys who are probably not down to partake in the hobby (with the possible exception of maybe a strip club visit). I won't have time to mess around with trying to find a bar girl for take-out or hitting the massage houses. I could possibly roll the dice on trying to find an independent on one of the service provider websites, but if someone can recommend a reliable agency, that would probably be my preferred route. I'm happy to pay up for good quality and good service if it's available. There's also some debate about whether we stay in Cancun proper or in PDC, so if anyone has any thoughts on that, I'the be curious to hear as well. Thanks in advance for your help!

Cheers,

CD.

[Elvis 2008]

Hey Elvis FYI they have that same boat experience in Cancun at the Aquaworld. So if you go next time and want to try it without having to go to Xcaret.

Thanks, Sol, that is good to know. I really dread going back to PDC until that construction is done on the highway.