Stupid shit in Medellin

[ShooBree]

First I think I said "knowledge and advice about CoVid". Of course, I must be a "democratic douche" because I don't think you have a clue about anything. In Elvis World anyone who disagrees with you must by definition be a "democratic douche". So let's test a few of your famous statements.

1. You were arguing with JjBee62 about 1 1/2 years ago. You always argue with him because he intimidates you. He is just a lot more knowledgeable that you are.

Well the argument was about the severity of the CoVid crisis as it hit the US. You predicted that there would not be 80,000 deaths. Well news flash. If you go to WorldoMeter (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/) you will see that the US number of deaths is rapidly approaching 800,000. So you were off by a factor of 10.

2. My personal favorite. For some reason you think lock-downs were a terrible idea. You have ranted on and on about it. You even pointed out that Sweden was following your approach by not closing down their businesses. Now your idea is bonkers. The only point you COULD have made was that lock-downs work but are unsustainable. But let's just look at Sweden and see what happened. Let's look at their neighbors. Why? Norway, Finland and Denmark all have similar population genetics, similar climates and except for Denmark similar population densities. These neighboring counties followed the WHO recommendations and locked-down for as long as they could..

I see that you're cherry-picking, how about the lockdowns in France, Italy, Belgium, Spain and Portugal? You have no idea what would have happened if Denmark, Norway and Finland had refrained from the lockdowns. You're just guessing and cherry-picking.

The only thing we actually do know for certain is that a lockdown isn't a guarantee for anything.

And you're obviously a rabid racist assuming neighboring countries to be the same and unable to have anything in common with other countries. You're embarrassing yourself.

[JustTK]

The world has gone crazy. This type of thinking must be well beyond my paygrade or from another world.

I think that they are yet to confirm one side effect of taking the vaccine. It fcks with your ability to think logically while at the same time making you ever more certain that your correct. Basically it gives you Dunning Kruger.

[Mr Enternational]

I saw a few days ago reports of a study published in Bloomberg, Fortune, BBC, Guardian (look them up on search "vaccinated just as likely to spread virus as unvaccinated" that verify that the vaxd are just as transmissable WRT the virus as the unvaxd. So the vaxd and the unvaxd are equally as likely to pass the virus on to any vulnerable / imuno-compromised person.

So now it is really indisputable that the unvaxd are only an increased danger to themselves. So there is no more excuse for the persecution of the unvaxd to continue.

The type of rationale during this thing has been inconceivable to me. If you are vaxed then it is okay for you to come in and spead the disease around. If you are unvaxed, don't you dare come in here and spread the disease that you don't have around. So it is better for a vaxed person that is infected to come in than an unvaxed person that is not infected? If you are vaxed with the disease then we are happy to continue being your employer. If you are unvaxed without the disease then turn in your ID. What logically should matter is if the person is infected, regardless of their vaccination status.

The world has gone crazy. Nobody ever came and made sure I was wearing a condom so I would not get AIDS, never came to make sure I was wrapped up so I did not catch pneumonia, never came to make sure my seat belt was on so I did not die in an accident, never made sure my shoes were tied so I did not trip and fall. But now everyone is dead set on making sure I am vaxed so I don't get Covid to the point that I can not work or enter certain establishments without being so. This type of thinking must be well beyond my paygrade or from another world.

[JustTK]

I saw a few days ago reports of a study published in Bloomberg, Fortune, BBC, Guardian (look them up on search "vaccinated just as likely to spread virus as unvaccinated" that verify that the vaxd are just as transmissable WRT the virus as the unvaxd. So the vaxd and the unvaxd are equally as likely to pass the virus on to any vulnerable / imuno-compromised person.

So now it is really indisputable that the unvaxd are only an increased danger to themselves. So there is no more excuse for the persecution of the unvaxd to continue.

[Villainy]

What exactly is "my advice" on Covid? Last I checked, I was saying how little could be done about it. I advocated for the vaccine, have been vaccinated, but think it should should only be given by choice. It is time to admit how little the government has done worked.

You being the Democratic douche think if everyone is vaccinated Covid will miraculously go away and want to vaccinate everyone by force even 5 year olds. I guess you are in favor of banning unvaccinated people from restaurants and other public facilities even though the vaccine does not prevent transmission. Did I miss something?

The latest data from the UK shows that the vaccine once again does not prevent transmission and in households where Covid abounds the rate of getting Covid drops from 38 to 25% if you are vaccinated. I called the vaccine shitty and to me, this is more data showing how shitty the vaccine really is, and IMO it will continue to fade over time.

As for those who vote Democratic and can see when government is wrong (unlike you government dick sucking Democratic douches), we actually find common ground..

First I think I said "knowledge and advice about CoVid". Of course, I must be a "democratic douche" because I don't think you have a clue about anything. In Elvis World anyone who disagrees with you must by definition be a "democratic douche". So let's test a few of your famous statements.

1. You were arguing with JjBee62 about 1 1/2 years ago. You always argue with him because he intimidates you. He is just a lot more knowledgeable that you are.

Well the argument was about the severity of the CoVid crisis as it hit the US. You predicted that there would not be 80,000 deaths. Well news flash. If you go to WorldoMeter (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/) you will see that the US number of deaths is rapidly approaching 800,000. So you were off by a factor of 10.

2. My personal favorite. For some reason you think lock-downs were a terrible idea. You have ranted on and on about it. You even pointed out that Sweden was following your approach by not closing down their businesses. Now your idea is bonkers. The only point you COULD have made was that lock-downs work but are unsustainable. But let's just look at Sweden and see what happened. Let's look at their neighbors. Why? Norway, Finland and Denmark all have similar population genetics, similar climates and except for Denmark similar population densities. These neighboring counties followed the WHO recommendations and locked-down for as long as they could. So 1 1/2 years later what are the results?? (Using WorldoMeters again).

Sweden. 11.5% CoVid cases amount to 11.5% of the population.

Norway 3.8% CoVid cases amount to 3.8% of the population.

Finland 2.9% CoVid cases amount to 2.9% of the population.

Denmark 6.7% CoVid cases amount to 6.7% of the population.

A rational person should conclude that what Norway, Finland and Denmark did was a hell of a lot better that what Sweden did. I'm sure you'll rationalize your rant with something absurd. You see, Sweden did a lot better than Montenegro. Even though Montenegro doesn't have anything in common with Sweden. Hey maybe they kept everything open too?

3. Another astounding piece of Elvis analysis. You recently claimed Colombia was a great example of why lock-downs don't work. You went on to claim that once Colombia ended the lock-downs the spread of virus abated.

Well that is sequentially correct but, of course, your causation claim is absurd in its entirety. What really happened was that people in Colombia don't generally doubt the efficacy of the vaccine. Today 42% are fully vaccinated and 59% have had at least one shot. Those numbers are slowing rising every single day.

What caused the rate of infection to drop from June to now wasn't the removal of restrictions it was the introduction and wide-spread implementation of the vaccine.

So yes, I'm a democratic douche because I think you don't understand anything about statistics or analysis. You mouth off whatever you think at some isolated moment in time and it bears no resemblance to reality.

[Mr Enternational]

It seems like something that would need to be ruled on by the Colombian Supreme Court, and you could be detained for years before that happens.
Unless the action being requested puts me at greater risk than compliance, I'm going to bypass the demanding anything route. I'm putting on a smile and getting through it.

Again, could be and will be are different things. You could be struck by lightning today so you better stay inside. The chances of you being detained for not opening a stupid phone, I would say are close to zero, same as the chances of you getting struck by lightning today. Are you really going to walk outside and challenge that lightning?

I understand that you will just do whatever you are told in order to get out of it the quickest and easiest way. If everybody was about that life then unjust laws would never get changed. Somebody has to fight for what they believe in sometimes although it may inconvenience them or cost them money. If I was about that life then there is no telling how much money I would have given to Dominican police up until today.

But there is a saying that goes, "I got time today!" If you believe you are being told some bullshit then ask to see where it is written. Or even ask to see a supervisor.

I remember going through security at the airport in Honduras and those mfs took my small packets of mustard and incense. I was furious. I asked to see it in writing or talk to a supervisor. They went and got the supervisor and he told me it was not allowed. In other cases people have gone to get the supervisor and they said things were actually allowed. In the Dominican Republic bih tried to tell me I could not bring my hot sauce because I could throw it into someone's eyes. She went and got a supervisor. I took my mechanical pencil and did a quick motion to her eyes with it. They got my point (going to take the hot sauce, but not take this pencil for the same reason) and let me bring the hot sauce that I had brought many times before and still many times after. So don't be afraid to ask for a higher authority.

In Santo Domingo I was coming back from a motel with a street walker. I saw the police hot on my tail and I know their game so I was trying to outrun them. I turned the corner and told the chick to get out, but they were able to catch up to me because of that little stop. They blocked the car in the middle of the street, but I tried to go around them. One dude hopped off the back of the bike and pulled his gun out and pointed it at my front left tire. Then I stopped.

They told me that what I did was illegal (never really saying what it was that I did). I told them to show me the law that says that. They told me they did not have to show me. I said yes you do. I said well get a supervisor out here to show me. They pretended to call someone and said they would arrive soon. We sat there in a south of the border standoff for about 10 minutes,. Sometimes quietly and sometimes with them trying to convince me that I had fucked up. They finally let me go after realizing I was not about to offer any money. Then I said no, no let's wait for the supervisor because I really wanted to see the law. They said man get the hell out of here. See, I had time that day!

To answer your question, yes I would recommend someone comply with a lawful order, but if they are not sure whether it is lawful or not, then do not be afraid ask to be shown the code giving them the authority to ask for what they are asking for or ask for a higher authority that can verify they are allowed to be asking for that. Don't just roll over and do whatever is being asked because it "could" cost you time or money.

[PVMonger]

What exactly is "my advice" on Covid? Last I checked, I was saying how little could be done about it. I advocated for the vaccine, have been vaccinated, but think it should should only be given by choice. It is time to admit how little the government has done worked.

You being the Democratic douche think if everyone is vaccinated Covid will miraculously go away and want to vaccinate everyone by force even 5 year olds. I guess you are in favor of banning unvaccinated people from restaurants and other public facilities even though the vaccine does not prevent transmission. Did I miss something?

The latest data from the UK shows that the vaccine once again does not prevent transmission and in households where Covid abounds the rate of getting Covid drops from 38 to 25% if you are vaccinated. I called the vaccine shitty and to me, this is more data showing how shitty the vaccine really is, and IMO it will continue to fade over time.

As for those who vote Democratic and can see when government is wrong (unlike you government dick sucking Democratic douches), we actually find common ground..

Since the COVID vaccines are "shitty" (your words), then you also admit that Operation Dork Speed was an abject failure and a colossal waste of money, right? After all, what idiot would throw away that much money without even getting a performance bond?

[JjBee62]

Pretty much the exact same thing happened to me dealing with Rappi. I had no problem making an order the first couple of times, then my account was restricted. I begged and pleaded with them to tell me what the problem was so that I could clear it up, but the same as global entry they said we can not divulge that information. They told me that I could open another account if I wanted some Rappi.

I asked what would happen with the 73 points that I had already accumulated. They said fuck your points. If you want Rappi then open a different account. Same as the govt said fuck the $100 you already paid us for global entry. If you want to try again with no idea of what the problem is then give us another $100. I did that and DENIED. Yesterday I opened another Rappi and verified an American Express and a Visa on my account. When I went to place an order it was the same fuck you, no food for you, as it had been with the previous account. Think they will tell me what the problem is this time?.

Welcome to the world of bureaucracy. I once spent 6 weeks unable to visit my doctor or fill my prescriptions after a work injury that took 18 months to recover from. The insurance company was paying me to stay home, but refused to pay my medical expenses. For 6 weeks I couldn't get into or out of my own bed. I could only sleep in 20 minute stretches, because the slightest movement would wake me up yelling from the pain. Every day I called to find out why they wouldn't pay for a doctor visit and every day I was told to call back the next day.

After 6 weeks I retained a lawyer and in 2 hours I I had an appointment with one of the top orthopedic surgeons in San Diego. If they had just told me my doctor wasn't submitting the paperwork how they wanted it probably would have saved them $100 k. Instead they had to pay some very expensive doctors and physical therapists, plus a bunch more.

It's not required to make sense.

When did the conversation turn to lawful requests? Last time I saw the conversation it was about unlocking your electronics for the Colombian authorities, but it was never established whether this is lawful or not. I only saw people yelling do whatever they tell you so you will not miss your flight or get framed.

I've been talking about lawful requests from the start. I don't know every Colombian law, or every law applied to international air travel. However, if you go back several years you'll remember the uproar when the public learned that DHS was intercepting text messages and phone calls. They were even pulling out the nudes people were sending and passing them around.

With the addition of SESTA / FOSTA I assume asking travelers to unlock phones and laptops is within their rights. Add in the difference between the US and Colombian legal systems, I doubt if it matters whether the request is legal in Colombia. It seems like something that would need to be ruled on by the Colombian Supreme Court, and you could be detained for years before that happens.

Have you heard of "the law of gross tonnage?" If you're in a 3000 lb car and an 80,000 lb truck wants you to yield, you're going to yield, whether by choice or by force. I apply that law to anyone who has the power to either throw me in a cell, or put me in a grave. Unless the action being requested puts me at greater risk than compliance, I'm going to bypass the demanding anything route. I'm putting on a smile and getting through it.

In my experience that's not only the quickest solution, it's the cheapest.

Back in March I was stopped for a vehicle inspection in Canada. Mechanically there was only 1 minor issue. However, there were paperwork problems (not my responsibility) that could have stuck me there for at least 8 hours and resulted in a few thousand in fines. Instead of being combative, I made nice and I was out in 45 minutes, with a $74 fine and a list of things for my boss to fix.

[MarquisdeSade1]

What exactly is "my advice" on Covid? Last I checked, I was saying how little could be done about it. I advocated for the vaccine, have been vaccinated, but think it should should only be given by choice. It is time to admit how little the government has done worked.

You being the Democratic douche think if everyone is vaccinated Covid will miraculously go away and want to vaccinate everyone by force even 5 year olds. I guess you are in favor of banning unvaccinated people from restaurants and other public facilities even though the vaccine does not prevent transmission. Did I miss something?

The latest data from the UK shows that the vaccine once again does not prevent transmission and in households where Covid abounds the rate of getting Covid drops from 38 to 25% if you are vaccinated. I called the vaccine shitty and to me, this is more data showing how shitty the vaccine really is, and IMO it will continue to fade over time.

As for those who vote Democratic and can see when government is wrong (unlike you government dick sucking Democratic douches), we actually find common ground..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx7VnKMZew4

[Elvis 2008]

So, is your knowledge and advice about the Global Entry program on a par with your knowledge and advice about CoVid and how to deal with it?

What exactly is "my advice" on Covid? Last I checked, I was saying how little could be done about it. I advocated for the vaccine, have been vaccinated, but think it should should only be given by choice. It is time to admit how little the government has done worked.

You being the Democratic douche think if everyone is vaccinated Covid will miraculously go away and want to vaccinate everyone by force even 5 year olds. I guess you are in favor of banning unvaccinated people from restaurants and other public facilities even though the vaccine does not prevent transmission. Did I miss something?

The latest data from the UK shows that the vaccine once again does not prevent transmission and in households where Covid abounds the rate of getting Covid drops from 38 to 25% if you are vaccinated. I called the vaccine shitty and to me, this is more data showing how shitty the vaccine really is, and IMO it will continue to fade over time.

As for those who vote Democratic and can see when government is wrong (unlike you government dick sucking Democratic douches), we actually find common ground.

I did not find anything wrong with this Maher video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp3gy_CLXho.

Or this one on Covid origins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSfejgwbDQ8.

And now Maher and this Atlantic reporter are saying we need to say the pandemic is over: https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/j...ave-wear-masks.

So tell me, douche, where are Bill Maher, Caitlin Flanagan, and Jon Stewart wrong, and where have you been right about anything?

It seems to me that your arrogance is based on the fact that everyone's on your side. Sorry, douche, but that is not true not even among people in your own party.

[Mr Enternational]

I've heard about a guy on ISG who had his Global Entry revoked for no apparent reason, even though he keeps a low profile. That sounds suspiciously like someone got singled even though he's "a regular Joe in the crowd."

Pretty much the exact same thing happened to me dealing with Rappi. I had no problem making an order the first couple of times, then my account was restricted. I begged and pleaded with them to tell me what the problem was so that I could clear it up, but the same as global entry they said we can not divulge that information. They told me that I could open another account if I wanted some Rappi.

I asked what would happen with the 73 points that I had already accumulated. They said fuck your points. If you want Rappi then open a different account. Same as the govt said fuck the $100 you already paid us for global entry. If you want to try again with no idea of what the problem is then give us another $100. I did that and DENIED. Yesterday I opened another Rappi and verified an American Express and a Visa on my account. When I went to place an order it was the same fuck you, no food for you, as it had been with the previous account. Think they will tell me what the problem is this time?

Are you recommending people comply with the police, for a lawful request, or not

When did the conversation turn to lawful requests? Last time I saw the conversation it was about unlocking your electronics for the Colombian authorities, but it was never established whether this is lawful or not. I only saw people yelling do whatever they tell you so you will not miss your flight or get framed.

[JjBee62]

Sounds good, but you are talking out of both sides of your mouth. If her extortion demand is very unreasonable, and you refuse to comply, then it's not going to be a "friendly" atmosphere where loses are cut. It's also disappointing that complying with the scam serves to perpetuate it. They do it because it works.

Your typical girl who shows up acting unreasonable will leave for 50 mil or the taxis, assuming no sex has started. A few years ago I had one in Costa Rica come to the room after agreeing to payment after, then demand that I place the whole fee, 50 mil colones (about $85) on the night stand. Your typical Costa Rican independent has at least passable English, so communication was no problem. I explained to her that putting the cash out where she could grab it any time was the same thing as sticking it in her pocket, and that this was not going to happen. She would be paid after as agreed. She then demanded the full fee of 50 mil colones for her "time," and without any sex, under threat of calling the police. I then called hotel security, which was a ruse, as I knew they wouldn't do anything, but it got her at the door, door wide open talking to the wuss security guy. And she hadn't disrobed yet so was fully clothed, her purse under her arm. Well that close to the door, ready to go, and an offer of $20 US and she decided to make her exit. She wasn't getting the whole $80 unless she did a sit in and the police told me to pay it or else..

I think I've mentioned before that I'm somewhat selective of who comes to my room. If I'm uncertain about the girl I'll meet her at a public place. If I don't feel right about her, I'll make my excuses, pay her enough for her time and move on. That's only happened once.

Maybe it's luck, maybe it's skill, or maybe they just like me, but I've never encountered a scammer. I believe they exist, they are just outside of my experience.

I have run into a bunch of online scammers, the women who hit you up, then start asking for money. I've gotten to the point where I can recognize them within seconds.

However, it sounds like you followed my advice. Instead of turning it into a screaming match and having her call the police, you brought in the hotel, which is tentatively going to be on your side. You got her to a position where you were able to cut your losses and everyone went away happy.

The reason most men in the west, or at least the US, don't deal with hookers is because it's illegal and carries a heavy social stigma.

[Villainy]

Totally agree.

I agree that there are those two for sure. They even mentioned the alcohol issue when I got my Global Entry. It was almost like "Yeah, like do not bring in any drugs, but if you bring in excess liquor and do not pay the customs duty, your global entry is done. " I kind of laughed at which one Customs took more seriously.

Knowledge, I am not so sure about this one. I have walked across the border and bought counterfeit handbags and declared them when I re-entered the country. The amount I bought was under the dollar limit for goods and there was no issue. Quite frankly, this was a Mexican border town and if Americans could not bring back these fake handbags into the USA, they would not be selling them, and the vendors were selling them in droves.

As to why Mr. E's GE was revoked, Mr. E has admitted to saying crazy things to customs like "I went to Colombia for the women", and he also admitted that he is completely oblivious to the idea that governments are cracking down on prostitution. He said they are just going after marketing. SMH.

So, is your knowledge and advice about the Global Entry program on a par with your knowledge and advice about CoVid and how to deal with it?

[Elvis 2008]

I'm still waiting for you to ATFQ (which is nuke for answer the fucking question). Are you recommending people comply with the police, for a lawful request, or not?

When I have asked the question, why is Colombia so poor to a chica, EVERY chica has the same answer, government corruption.

How hard is it to put a photo with an underage chica on your phone? How about photo shopping one with you and her on it? Wouldn't Customs just need your phone number? If not that, there is wi fi, blu tooth ETC.

The counter to the argument "why not let the police search your premises if you have nothing to hide" is that the police may plant something. That is why our forefathers stated a neutral magistrate sign a search warrant and limit warrants. That you think the writers of the Constitution did not know what they are doing does not surprise me.

The correct answer when dealing with LE is almost always, "I am not saying or doing anything until I talk to a / my lawyer. " That is a position the American Embassy can be an advocate for.

I was completely compliant with a Mexican policeman who caught me speeding. I was in the wrong, and he could have done anything including taking me to jail. On the flip side, I had two Mexican cops search my wallet when I was using a Coke machine. I told them that if they took a penny, I would post on line about how corrupt the police in Cancun are and also inform my hotel management what they had done. They were actually afraid when I said that and took nothing.

The position you are advocating, to always suck government dick, is pretty stupid when dealing with countries as corrupt as Colombia. There are other paths than just being compliant or refusing.

[Paulie97]

I'm all for discretion and I've said so in several scenarios. Just one example, when some hooker starts demanding more than you feel she deserves. My advice has always been to deescalate the situation, rather than blowing it up and getting the police involved. While the police might take your side, they might not and in most cases the potential savings are less than the potential risks. That doesn't mean you give any amount she asks for. It means you keep things friendly and cut your losses.

Sounds good, but you are talking out of both sides of your mouth. If her extortion demand is very unreasonable, and you refuse to comply, then it's not going to be a "friendly" atmosphere where loses are cut. It's also disappointing that complying with the scam serves to perpetuate it. They do it because it works.

Your typical girl who shows up acting unreasonable will leave for 50 mil or the taxis, assuming no sex has started. A few years ago I had one in Costa Rica come to the room after agreeing to payment after, then demand that I place the whole fee, 50 mil colones (about $85) on the night stand. Your typical Costa Rican independent has at least passable English, so communication was no problem. I explained to her that putting the cash out where she could grab it any time was the same thing as sticking it in her pocket, and that this was not going to happen. She would be paid after as agreed. She then demanded the full fee of 50 mil colones for her "time," and without any sex, under threat of calling the police. I then called hotel security, which was a ruse, as I knew they wouldn't do anything, but it got her at the door, door wide open talking to the wuss security guy. And she hadn't disrobed yet so was fully clothed, her purse under her arm. Well that close to the door, ready to go, and an offer of $20 US and she decided to make her exit. She wasn't getting the whole $80 unless she did a sit in and the police told me to pay it or else.

There a reason why most men, at least in the West, don't deal with hookers. This is one of the reasons along with the fact that most put in little effort and are just laying there waiting for you to get off. But hey, this is a hooker forum, so we are about trying to make the best of these situations. Wink.