Stupid shit in Medellin

[JjBee62]

I am willing to discuss it. I had a very productive chat here a coupla weeks ago, with some guy that presented his arguments in a respectful way. I just refuse to engage with people that cannot attack the argument, only attack the person.

I am not anti-vax. I am anti- unnessary and not very good vax. And also anti-vivisection. But you just lump everyone in to the same bucket to make your life easier to attack. (Why would I want to make my life easier to attack?)

I said nothing about immigration rights, so that's another bullshlt story. Well done, keep it up.

Sorry, you lost me there. I don't recall mentioning anything recently about immigration rights. Are you confusing me with someone else, or did I post something I don't remember?

As respectfully as possible, I disagree. I just posted a respectful response, pointing out the flaws in your argument. Yet, you had already refused to engage with me, because I offered arguments you couldn't counter. I also pointed out your hypocrisy in regards to your whole "respectful" schtick.

And you have mentioned several times you are anti-vivisection, which was your original reason for not getting vaccinated. It's pretty funny if you think about it. I'm assuming that's also the reason behind the vegan diet? I'm fully supportive of a person's dietary choices and a vegan diet is certainly healthier than my diet. But I always get a good laugh when someone states their choice is because of an unwillingness to participate in the slaughter of "sentient beings. "

I acknowledge, that if I want a nice, thicky juicy stake, cooked rare (just cook it until it stops mooing), some steer is going to have to give its life in order for my horseradish to have something to go on. However, no matter what diet I choose, I'm requiring the slaughter of "sentient beings" along with the destruction of their habitat. It's hard to grow lentils without first clear cutting a forest and burning out what remains.

Every action, every day, to support human life requires non-human life to suffer on a scale which is beyond your imagination. I accept that, because as liberal as I am, or as liberal as I'm accused of being, I prefer sex with humans over sex with animals. Although I admit, I've never given the sheep a chance to prove themselves.

You remind me of a protest I saw outside of a Furrier long ago. All those people with their BMWs waving signs and then climbing back into that nice leather interior.

[JjBee62]

You are not hitting me with a dilemma Professor Shit for Brains. I said it was 50-50 you would stroke out in the next 5 years, and it looks like you have done it already. So tell me Professor, why didn't you have a stroke, the negative MRI? And are you saying stroke symptoms are not related to Covid?

And what did your doctors put down for a final diagnosis, "I don't know"? I heard insurance companies pay out real well for that diagnosis.

You wish to play doctor with me again? My goodness. You also wish access to my insurance information. Surely you recognize that's illegal, counselor.

Let's clear it up. Simple as can be. Name a city in the continental US, only requirement is that the city has at least 2 practicing psychologists. Pick a date. I can do December 6, 13, or 20. I'll choose a psychologist qualified to perform aptitude testing. I'll set 2 appointments. I'll pay in advance for both appointments. We'll both complete the same battery of tests. Takes about an hour. We'll get the results. We'll post the results right here. Low score pays high score $5,000.

You even get the better deal. You can pick a location convenient to you and you don't have to pay for your test. Tell me. What are you afraid of? You keep running away. Every time I offer to test one of your claims, you take off like a scared little bunny and hide in a hole for a few days. Every single time! Come on out and prove yourself.

And why do you always run from my rebuttal? Why not respond to the questions? Here, I'll even make that simple for you, you can even ask a real doctor to help with the answers:

1. If a person is experiencing fever, shortness of breath and a persistent dry cough, should they get a Covid test?

2. If a person has heart palpitations, dizziness and weakness, with a history of atrial fibrillation, without fever, cough, shortness of breath or loss of sense of taste or smell, should they get a Covid test?

Now your original answer was that I was stupid for getting a Covid test for the first scenario and that I was stupid for not getting a Covid test for the second scenario. Do you wish to change your answers, or are you going to pick a city and date so we can get a definitive answer on our comparative intelligence? Or is it going to be scared bunny again? (Spoiler alert. It's going to be scared bunny all the way).

While we're on the subject. You claimed I was spreading Covid throughout Colombia (technically you claimed the entire continent, but I understand your need for hyperbole). However another board member, a person who gives frequent tours in Bogota claims he has had Covid 5 times, giving tours, visiting clubs. A different BM said he had Covid, continued to see girls and got a Certificate of Recovery via a video visit well before completing quarantine. A third BM was positive for Covid and asked for opinions about whether or not he should isolate. All things publicly posted here.

4 people positive for Covid. Only 1 of the 4 immediately went into quarantine upon learning, informed his personal contacts and posted here for anyone who he forgot to inform. 2 others continued business as usual and the last one, if I remember correctly, only took a day or two out of commission. Yet the only one you commented on, the only one you accused of starting a new wave of infections (while also claiming a significant drop in new infections), was the one person who took action to prevent infecting others. Care to explain the discrepancy?

I know the answer. You also know the answer, but only one of us is able to get you the treatment you need.

And let's not forget your own claim of being exposed "hundreds of times. " You forgot to mention how, after each exposure, you isolated for 5-7 days and then got tested to confirm you weren't infected (just did the math, if we're being held to the same standards you've had to isolate for a minimum of just under 3 years over the past 20 months). Or was that just more of your silliness? You can't hold 1 person to a standard while not holding yourself and others to the same standard.

Does December 13 in Dallas work for you? Let's solve this.

Almost forgot. What you said is that I would die from a stroke in the next 5 years. Are you suggesting I'm posting from some afterlife? Did you just call me your Messiah? I think you did!

Don't forget, I also offered you a bet on that one. Let's make it $1 million. Have your lawyer draw it up. I'll get a $1 million life insurance policy with a 5 year term (5 years from July 2021, because I expect you'll still be making that prediction without accepting a wager long after 5 years have passed). Contestability period is 2 years. If I die of stroke or cerebral hemorrhage, you're the beneficiary. If I die of other causes, or survive your escrow of $100,000 comes to me (or my estate). Where else are you going to get 10-1 odds? (Scared bunny mode engaged).

[JustTK]

Plus, he's not very good at it, a feeling I'm sure you're familiar with.
Here's a pro-tip: If you want to discuss a subject, any subject, discuss it. If you're not interested in hearing anything anyone else has to say on the subject, don't discuss it.

I am willing to discuss it. I had a very productive chat here a coupla weeks ago, with some guy that presented his arguments in a respectful way. I just refuse to engage with people that cannot attack the argument, only attack the person.

I am not anti-vax. I am anti- unnessary and not very good vax. And also anti-vivisection. But you just lump everyone in to the same bucket to make your life easier to attack.

I said nothing about immigration rights, so that's another bullshlt story. Well done, keep it up.

[JjBee62]

Bro, don't argue with covidiots. Its absolutely not worth your time.

Plus, he's not very good at it, a feeling I'm sure you're familiar with.

Here's a pro-tip:

If you want to discuss a subject, any subject, discuss it. If you're not interested in hearing anything anyone else has to say on the subject, don't discuss it.

It's like your religious beliefs. If you just want a bunch of people to tell you how wonderful they are, go chat with the people at your favorite religious institution. If you want to insist your beliefs are the only ones, go fuck yourself with a rusty cattle prod. There's a third option, but people with strongly held religious beliefs are seldom interested in hearing questions which contradict their dogma. I've noticed it's the same with anti-vaxxers and people who insist on rights which they don't have.

There's much worthy of discussion regarding Covid and vaccines, but only one side wants to have a discussion. The other side has spent the last 20 months insisting:

1. Covid is a hoax.

2. Covid isn't as bad as the flu.

3. Covid is no worse than the flu.

4. Covid is the flu, just a worse type of the flu.

5. Covid is a weapon created by China.

6. Covid is a weapon China created for the US.

7. Covid is just a trick to bring about a "new world order."

8. Vaccines don't work.

9. Vaccines are a trick to inject us with microchips to control us.

10. Vaccines are killing more people than Covid.

And that's without getting into the really wacky shit.

So, if you don't want to have a discussion, there's no need to tell us you don't want to have a discussion. If you just want to throw insults, then jump right in.

And as a side note, you did notice MrE's discovery that:

A. You are subject to have your phone searched in Colombia.

Be. If you refuse they can detain you while the police break into your phone and search it.

I believe you stated otherwise? As I said, you're probably familiar with not being good at all this discussion stuff.

[Paulie97]

Life carries risk. Every day, every thing comes with an element of risk. It's both hyperbole and a straw man to say nothing should be done that carries risk, and then declare the risk you pose to others as acceptable.

When you are only risking yourself, that is a personal choice. When you are deciding that risking the health, welfare and lives of others is perfectly acceptable, that's selfishness.

Reminds me of months ago when he first discovered his new home here in the Colombia forum, while equating Covid with car cashes and asking why no one is calling for the removal of all cars from the road. What he neglected was that there's a world of mitigation going on with cars, safety protocols and inspections, speed limits, seat belt and drunk driving laws, and the list goes on.

I personally doubt he spends much time chasing hookers as so much of his days are spent here typing out fallacious arguments. Wouldn't surprise me for a moment if he's never set foot in Colombia. We have a lot of those around here. Wink.

[Paulie97]

Bro, don't argue with covidiots. Its absolutely not worth your time.

This is a perfect example of someone that wants to be heard but lacks the wits to formulate any sort of argument so he just insults and runs. Impressive. Wink.

[Elvis 2008]

That was vicious, even dastardly for me to once again slap you with a narcissist's dilemma. All I can say is it's something you can control. Stop trying to include me in your narcissistic fantasies and I'll stop broadsiding you with the narcissist's dilemmas.

You are not hitting me with a dilemma Professor Shit for Brains. I said it was 50-50 you would stroke out in the next 5 years, and it looks like you have done it already. So tell me Professor, why didn't you have a stroke, the negative MRI? And are you saying stroke symptoms are not related to Covid?

And what did your doctors put down for a final diagnosis, "I don't know"? I heard insurance companies pay out real well for that diagnosis.

[VasyaPetya]

This is one of the dumbest takes I have heard during the pandemic. And I have heard it claimed here a few times. So let's exam the logic a little.

Firstly, one would need to verify that one is indeed a greater risk to a puta. This is far from clear. A vaxd person is equally likely to spread CV if they have the virus as an unvaxd person. But is the unvaxd person more likely to have the virus? That is very unclear. On average an unvaxd person has a 38% chance of catching the virus over a 20 day period, whereas a vaxd has 25% chance. However, immunological organizations confirm and agree that everyone will get the virus and everyone will have antibodies sooner or later bcos the vax does not prevent transmission. Furthermore, as time goes on, those stats will change in favour of the unvaxd bcos an ever greater proportion of the sample will have caught the disease and will have antibodies. So the 2 groups will effectively merge in to one with no discernible differences.

It's important to note also that those stats are averages. They say nothing of the circumstances that any individual may have. One could do a hell of a lot to reduce your likelihood of not having the virus when you have sex go for regular checks, avoid French kissing, make sure you don't go out when you have flu-like symptoms, social distance, take regular exercise, eat a vegan diet, avoid having sex when you're old or obese or have high blood pressure or diabetes (or any other contributory factor), make sure your 2nd vax jab is not more than 2-3 months old, or catch the virus naturally. These actions would be far more effective in reducing transmission than having a vax that is only partially effective. So if one argues that having unvaccinated sex is selfish, then you must accept that having sex while failing to meet any of these conditions is also selfish I doubt anyone here would accept that.

Furthermore, you could apply the same dumb logic to countless other activities where we all accept an element of risk. Is it selfish to ask a puta to visit you in your apartment bcos she needs to catch a taxi and that carries a risk of accident? Is it selfish to have sex with a puta if you had recent unprotected oral or penetration sex with one else that carries a risk too? Wearing a bright yellow T-shirt might attract bees and the girl might be allergic to bees! . OMG, we need to put a stop to all interaction!

Finally, what about the girl the claim ignores her circumstances too. Maybe she already had the virus, maybe she is happy to accept the risk, maybe you told her when you arranged to meet her.

Overall, it is a VERY DUMB claim.

Bro, don't argue with covidiots. Its absolutely not worth your time.

[JjBee62]

For everyone out there who feels that acquired immunity from infection with Covid is superior to getting vaccinated, I have a question.

Why haven't you made an effort to get infected?

At this point roughly 1 in 30 of the population, or more has had Covid. Surely we're all smart enough to figure out how to find an infected, contagious person and spend some time in close proximity to them. The ratio of the population that sells marijuana is much lower and I'm sure none of us would have difficulty finding someone who sells it.

So, what is your reason for not being proactive towards acquiring some natural immunity? Wouldn't it be better to get some immunity before a really bad variant pops up?

[Villainy]

Over 2 million are born outside of Sweden and the most common country of birth is Syria followed by Iraq.

You have yet to show any kind of intelligence.

So thank you for all your BS. The question is which country or countries would you compare to Sweden? Step back and get back to the point. I would happily argue with you about the immigration dynamics but this all circles back to comparing what Sweden did to another country that did something different. So Elvis-clone. Which country or countries are the best match and comparison with Sweden?? Despite all your rhetoric. Show me another country or countries that more closely match Sweden. If you can't do that, then stop wasting my time.

[Villainy]

It will be the second business day after you see the rate on Xe.com. You can go to https://usa.visa.com/support/consume...alculator.html and see the up-to-date rate you will get. Monday, you should see 3832 and Tuesday, 3872 (something close to those amounts). Keep in mind, Visa changes the rate at midnight GMT which is 7 pm Colombian time.

You are right Fun Luvr the Visa rate is changed at midnight to reflect the days activity and some guesstimate about direction. But The rate set Friday and midnight will be the same for Saturday, Sunday and Monday.

The reason is that Sunday at midnight there is no new data so every weekend is a 3 day weekend so to speak. The rate will change Monday and midnight for Tuesday.

[Fun Luvr]

USD is getting better against COP. It was 37 xx, now 3870. When will this change to seen on my credit card? I am still getting 37 xx for my most recent transactions.

It will be the second business day after you see the rate on Xe.com. You can go to https://usa.visa.com/support/consume...alculator.html and see the up-to-date rate you will get. Monday, you should see 3832 and Tuesday, 3872 (something close to those amounts). Keep in mind, Visa changes the rate at midnight GMT which is 7 pm Colombian time.

[Casagoer]

USD is getting better against COP. It was 37 xx, now 3870. When will this change to seen on my credit card? I am still getting 37 xx for my most recent transactions.

[JC9999]

On average an unvaxd person has a 38% chance of catching the virus over a 20 day period, whereas a vaxd has 25% chance. .

Since this is a foundational statement for your logic that follows it, can you please provide what your basis is for this statement? In the 20+/- months of the pandemic, there is a reported 14% of the US population that has gotten COVID (understanding the % is probably a bit higher given unreported cases). So I'm sure you can understand on some level it is hard to fathom that there's a 25% chance in the next 20 DAYS for vaccinated people. Simple math would imply that over the next year. A vaccinated person would have more than a 99%chance of getting COVID.

[Huacho]

Finally, what about the girl the claim ignores her circumstances too. Maybe she already had the virus, maybe she is happy to accept the risk, maybe you told her when you arranged to meet her.

Just because a desperate, ignorant hooker says she is willing to take a risk, does not mean I am willing to PUT her at risk. Because, um, you know, there is a bit of a power disparity between a reasonably wealthy gringo and a desperate, ignorant, maybe strung out hooker. But it certainly doesn't surprise me that you wouldn't give a shit.