Stupid shit in Medellin

[Fun Luvr]

Hey, are you in Colombia? My gal just told me I have to bring my vaccine card as it is required everywhere. She is in Bogota. Are you seeing that too?

I am in Medellin. I think the vaccine card is only required for sporting events, concerts, etc. I have been to two stores today, neither required anything other than a mask.

[Elvis 2008]

Or better yet, maybe I should not believe the documents she showed me confirming this. Afterall, documents can be made to show anything. Yes; everything and everybody in this world is one big lie. I guess we should not believe your lies about getting covid after being vaccinated either.

I guess they think you cannot get Covid after being vaccinated. The CDC shows that on the last day measured in September, September 4 on this chart, that out of one in six recorded infections occurred in the vaccinated. See the link: https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status.

As for getting it twice in one month, that is certainly possible. I see people who test + 4 weeks after initially testing + all the time. I would not put that under common (most people clear it by 4 weeks) but would say it is not uncommon, and I fail to see why anyone would lie about this.

I guess if you think Covid is often a case of life and death you would be skeptical. I have not seen anyone die of pure Covid. Only death I have seen is a 93 year old with cancer where Covid was claimed to be the cause of death. I have seen people very often who are very sick with very low oxygen but once oxygen is put on them, they come up to normal or near normal pretty quickly. So often really sick? Sure. Life or death? Nah.

Paulie is right that there are two sides. Hopefully, here we try to get to the third side, the truth. We have the Republican who say Covid does not exist.

But we also have these Democratic douches have been exaggerating the effects of the virus since day one for political gain: https://nypost.com/2021/09/17/bill-m...-19-reporting/.

And thanks to these douches and their "scientists" we have had to endure these pointless travel bans, expensive, painful, and ridiculous swabs and now have to prove that we have been vaccinated to travel, and I guess to go out to eat now in Colombia.

I long for the day when travel vaccines and travel plans were what they used to be, directed by people on only one side, the side of the truth. Do you remember when getting vaccinated to travel used to make sense?

[Mr Enternational]

I'm sure you realize this already, but you shouldn't accept everything everyone says as the truth, even if it comes from a Mexican chick.

Or better yet, maybe I should not believe the documents she showed me confirming this. Afterall, documents can be made to show anything. Yes; everything and everybody in this world is one big lie. I guess we should not believe your lies about getting covid after being vaccinated either.

[Elvis 2008]

"herd immunity" is a very appropriat term when you think about it. Vaccinating the sheeple.

You are two for two on the one liners JustTK. I love it.

Hey, are you in Colombia? My gal just told me I have to bring my vaccine card as it is required everywhere. She is in Bogota. Are you seeing that too?

[PedroMorales]

The Bible says the shepherd should abandon the flock and go after the lost sheep. This could be an expensive and dangerous thing, depending on what ledge that sheep is on. They want all of us vaccinated, every last one. I feel this is for total control, with more QR / cell phone monitoring to follow.

Fully vaxed folk I know who now have covid are starting to worry about their tickers. They are even blaming heart attacks and strokes on climate change. I gave up Viagra o go easy on my heart, which does not need these vaccinations and their boosters, which remind me of CPR to kick start a dying heart.

"herd immunity" is a very appropriat term when you think about it. Vaccinating the sheeple.

[JustTK]

what utter horse shit this vaccine induced herd immunity is.

"herd immunity" is a very appropriat term when you think about it. Vaccinating the sheeple.

[Paulie97]

Meanwhile I am talking to a Mexican chick that has been vaccinated and is currently on her second bout with covid in 1 month.

Simply brilliant, a most sound and marvelous way to draw sweeping conclusions on health matters where life and death is often at stake, "some Mexican chick told me that." We should all be laughing our asses off but I'll refrain as the matter is quite serious.

Someone recently said in so many words that it isn't debate when one side is constantly dishing out logical fallacies while the other side is tasked with unraveling them. I call that a circle jerk, and that's about all you can find in a hooker forum. Some of it is stupidity, some is just ignorance and lack of education, but if one wants real debate they need to look elsewhere. And there are places to find it around the internet, depending on the topic of interest.

[Elvis 2008]

Our leaders, who are paid by Big Pharma et al, want us all spiked up. Given most have taken the clot shot, why no herd immunity?

Because herd immunity is a pipe dream with a virus that mutates like Covid. The "scientists" have been pulling this if you just wear your masks, wash your hands, get the vaccine and everything will be fine shit for over a year now. You only have to look at how many people have been vaccinated and gotten the virus afterwards to see what utter horse shit this vaccine induced herd immunity is.

BTW, love that clot shot nickname.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Your compliant servitude leads me to suppose your quite used to bending over at the first request.

Pure gold bro.

One of the best one-liners ever on ISG!

Encore por favor!

[Elvis 2008]

Meanwhile I am talking to a Mexican chick that has been vaccinated and is currently on her second bout with covid in 1 month. There is a big world out there.

Of all is here: https://mises.org/wire/why-bidens-va...omised-results.

Let me start with my favorite line of the whole article: As of August 25,2021, it takes over twenty-five hundred vaccinations to prevent a single death in the US. The data for the developed world are worse.

The scientific basis for the mandate is dubious. We are told that the vaccine is effective and safe. If this assertion were true, there would be no reason for coercion, as everyone would voluntarily take the vaccine. Furthermore, anyone taking the vaccine would have nothing to fear from the unvaccinated. If the vaccine worked, then everyone taking the vaccine would be protected. Of course, the vaccine does not work for everyone. Since the vaccine does not work for everyone, it becomes a judgment call whether the risk of vaccination is worth the benefit. Contrary to what is claimed on a daily basis, the vaccine is not safe. There is a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention database of adverse effects. As of November 7, 2021, there were 2,725,582 adverse events in 634,609 adverse event reports, including 8,284 deaths, 9,726 life-threatening events, 9,580 permanent disabilities, 363 congenital anomalies or birth defects, 38,818 hospitalizations, 79,615 ER visits, and 121,100 doctor's office visits attributed to the covid vaccines. These are only the risks we know about so far. Nobody knows what the adverse effects will be one, five, or ten years from now.

The risk versus benefit calculation is purely subjective, as the risks are unknown currently. Even if the total risk were limited to what is currently known, the risk versus benefit calculation would remain purely subjective, because death from covid and death from blood clots and other known covid vaccine complications are not directly comparable, as individual fear of one type of death is not equal to the fear of all other types of death. Furthermore, the benefits to society of an individual covid vaccination are not necessarily the same for the person taking the risk of the vaccination due to the very large disparity in risk versus age. While it may be noble to voluntarily accept a risk to benefit someone else, it is immoral to coerce someone to accept a risk to benefit someone else.

[JjBee62]

Meanwhile I am talking to a Mexican chick that has been vaccinated and is currently on her second bout with covid in 1 month. There is a big world out there. This website is based in the Netherlands and this thread is about Colombia. What the fuck does Trump have to do with any of this? Maybe you missed the election when he lost and is no longer in charge of shit. Are people in countries that are not USA and don't want to be vaccinated being shamed by their fellow countrymen in the name of Trump as well?

I remember talking to a guy who would have received the Medal of Honor for his service in Vietnam, according to him, except his missions were all top secret. He was also only 12 at the end of hostilities in Vietnam, but I'm sure he was being completely truthful.

I'm sure you realize this already, but you shouldn't accept everything everyone says as the truth, even if it comes from a Mexican chick.

There is a big world out there. Which is confusing if you're attempting to say that 1 Mexican chick is the yardstick we should use for everyone. There are people who have been shot in the head, who survived with no long term problems. Does that mean getting shot in the head doesn't pose a health risk?

Trump no longer has anything to do with this, although I hear from people everyday who also missed the election where he lost and is no longer in charge. I'd estimate there are millions of them just in the US.

I've told you before, you shouldn't care about people trying to shame you for whatever reason. Can you walk into a local church and start talking about all the prostitutes you've fucked without people shaming you? If you believe what you're doing is right, then stop worrying about what other people think.

Shit, there are people out there getting shamed because they're on food stamps and they sometimes spend money on things that aren't necessities. I had an old boss try to shame me because a work injury that laid me up for 18 months cost the company $50,000. People right here on ISG tried to shame me because at one point I was flat broke.

Personally, I haven't seen anyone being shamed because they don't want to get vaccinated. Even most of the ones who are spreading false information about the vaccines aren't getting shamed. Some of them are losing their jobs, but that's nothing new.

It seems like there's a simple solution. If you don't want to get vaccinated, don't. Almost nobody will know, or care. If you want to convince other people not to get vaccinated, expect some resistance. It's the same as if you try to tell your married friends they shouldn't be married. There will be some resistance.

Now, if your big issue is that your employer, or the countries you want to visit require vaccination, the solution is still simple. Decide what's more important to you. Everyone does it every day. I know guys who won't work certain jobs, because smoking weed is more important to them.

Every employer, every country has the right to make rules. If you don't like the rules, go somewhere else.

[JjBee62]

Our leaders, who are paid by Big Pharma et al, want us all spiked up. Given most have taken the clot shot, why no herd immunity?

It appears there are some things you don't understand.

Let's start with the basics. You keep referring to the vaccines as "clot shot. " Current studies indicate that about 20% of people with Covid develop blood clots. Both the AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson vaccines have a rare side effects of causing blood clots, almost exclusively in women under 60 and primarily in women under 24. The incidence of blood clots from the vaccine is much lower than the incidence of blood clots from Covid. Unless you're a woman, under the age of 60, a group most of us don't belong to, your risk of blood clots from the vaccine is almost non-existent, while you're risk of blood clots from Covid is reasonably high.

"Herd immunity" is not a precise measure. I'm going to refer to it as "criticality" for a moment.

A nuclear reactor is considered "critical" at a SUR (Startup Rate) of 1. That is, when the reactor power level is exactly self-sustaining, when each atom which undergoes fission causes exactly 1 other atom to fission, the power level is stable. The reactor could be at 10% power, or 100% power, but as long as that ratio is equal to 1, the reactor is critical. If it's greater than 1, it's supercritical, under 1, subcritical. This ratio is the most important measure of the reactor, because if it gets too high, the reactor effectively becomes a bomb. (This is something the movies have always fucked up. They'll say "the reactor is critical" and panic, but critical is where you want the reactor to be.).

That criticality is the same for infectious diseases. If the ratio is 1, then case numbers remain constant. The spread of the disease is stable. Herd immunity is achieved when each infected person, on average, infects less than 1 person, due to acquired immunity.

However, with Covid, there's no indication yet that infection or vaccination provides permanent immunity. Quite the opposite. It could be, in a year or two we'll discover that a combination of multiple vaccinations and multiple infections gives permanent immunity, or not.

We can simulate herd immunity, which most countries have attempted, with varying degrees of success. That's done with a combination of infection reduction strategies, masks, social distancing, reducing large public gatherings, contact tracing, quarantine and vaccination all play a role.

Even if either the vaccines or infection gave permanent immunity, we haven't reached the level where vaccination would provide herd immunity. Worldwide about 53% are fully vaccinated, 58% in the US.

There's really only 1 benefit of getting vaccinated. If you're vaccinated, your chances of surviving Covid go way up. If you survive you have a chance of seeing herd immunity achieved. If you don't, you move the rest of us closer to the goal.

[Mr Enternational]

Or as an alternative, all you unvaxxed fucks could take a plane to Never Never Land where Trump is still fuhrer. Then you could get on a bus to Go Fuck Yourself.

Meanwhile I am talking to a Mexican chick that has been vaccinated and is currently on her second bout with covid in 1 month. There is a big world out there. This website is based in the Netherlands and this thread is about Colombia. What the fuck does Trump have to do with any of this? Maybe you missed the election when he lost and is no longer in charge of shit. Are people in countries that are not USA and don't want to be vaccinated being shamed by their fellow countrymen in the name of Trump as well?

[MarquisdeSade1]

You've been called out as a liar so many times by so many people. But you keep on with this BS. BlackThought and I agreed to call your lies. We put up $10,000 all you had to do was make a plane reservation, come to Medellin and show us your passport with all your travel stamps. You demanded a wager. We put it up. And surprise, surprise not another peep out of you. What's the problem? Won't your high-school give you the time off? Won't your mother let you leave?

Birds of a feather. You hang around all the weird ass freaks like JJquasimodo and Osteo.

We can only imagine what you look like, of course my post strikes a nerve with you.

Trust me you don't want to meet up with me.

[JustTK]

... all you unvaxxed fucks ... Get your fucking heads out of your stinky asses, roll up your arms, and bend over.

Your compliant servitude leads me to suppose your quite used to bending over at the first request.