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  1. #2202
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    Here's what I think happened. You fabricated the whole thing, in an attempt to show the vaccine is useless.
    You are a piece of work. The way you get into people's head and read people's thoughts. The only problem with your bullshit telepathy is why would I need to show the vaccine is useless? That has never even been an argument of mine. Find one post where I have said the vaccine is useless. My only argument is that people should not suffer social persecution and ramifications because they do not want to take the vaccine. I notice that you waste a lot of unnecessary thinking on shit that you can just simply ask about. But I guess asking is too easy.

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    As for my getting sick with Covid, you caught me. I spent 2 weeks in the Bogota Courtyard by Marriott, without leaving my room, just to convince everyone the vaccines don't work. Yep. Absolutely.
    It seems you were the one trying to prove the vaccine is useless. Least of all it was useless for you. You go get the vaccine, contract covid, then proceed to spread it around on 2 continents. I do not get the vaccine and I have not had a trace of covid. So getting the vaccine did not work for you, but not getting the vaccine has been working for me for almost 2 years now. Hmmm.

    I am not against vaccination by the way. But I am going to drag JustTK into this because me and him were 2 unvaccinated fools hanging out together partially wearing masks all over the cesspool of downtown Medellin. I don't know about JustTK, but I felt fine in the days after, and even took a covid test that turned out to be what? NEGATIVE!

  2. #2201
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    Remember just a few weeks ago when you were trying to shame me because I said the authorities have the right to search your phone? Remember arguing that they couldn't and wouldn't do that?
    No I do not remember that! So in order to show that you are not the chronic liar or habitual misunderstander that everyone already knows that you are, please quote the post where I said these things.

    You are forever accusing people of saying things, but it is funny that you never do something as simple as quote the post where they said it. Put up or shut up, although we know the chance of you shutting up is absolute zero.

  3. #2200

    Spot on

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    It appears there are some things you don't understand.

    Let's start with the basics. You keep referring to the vaccines as "clot shot. " Current studies indicate that about 20% of people with Covid develop blood clots. Both the AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson vaccines have a rare side effects of causing blood clots, almost exclusively in women under 60 and primarily in women under 24. The incidence of blood clots from the vaccine is much lower than the incidence of blood clots from Covid. Unless you're a woman, under the age of 60, a group most of us don't belong to, your risk of blood clots from the vaccine is almost non-existent, while you're risk of blood clots from Covid is reasonably high.

    "Herd immunity" is not a precise measure. I'm going to refer to it as "criticality" for a moment.

    A nuclear reactor is considered "critical" at a SUR (Startup Rate) of 1. That is, when the reactor power level is exactly self-sustaining, when each atom which undergoes fission causes exactly 1 other atom to fission, the power level is stable. The reactor could be at 10% power, or 100% power, but as long as that ratio is equal to 1, the reactor is critical. If it's greater than 1, it's supercritical, under 1, subcritical. This ratio is the most important measure of the reactor, because if it gets too high, the reactor effectively becomes a bomb. (This is something the movies have always fucked up. They'll say "the reactor is critical" and panic, but critical is where you want the reactor to be.)..
    Great post and 100% spot on. Nice analogy to nuclear reactor start up.

  4. #2199

    She can't win a debate to save her life

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    What the fuck? Why is your thing to always change what people say? I never said anyone was trying to shame me. I spoke about people in general, not me personally.
    But she sure can take a huge shit on stage and throw it in the audience and piss and spit all over everything and just yell a lot.

    You're trying to debate someone that belongs in a straightjacket 24/7 in a state hospital somewhere, permanently!

    #1 troll on all of ISG.

    https://yourmileagemayvary.net/2021/...-free-country/

    Must be one of her friends.

  5. #2198
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    Meanwhile you keep crying about some big, bad bullies trying to shame you for not getting vaccinated. I'll buy you a crying towel and a box of tampons.
    What the fuck? Why is your thing to always change what people say? I never said anyone was trying to shame me. I spoke about people in general, not me personally.

  6. #2197

    Well

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Here we go again with the douches pretending they have knowledge, https://www.science.org/content/arti...s-quickly-some "To count as a case of reinfection, a patient must have had a positive polymerase chain reaction (PCR) test twice with at least one symptom-free month in between. But virologist Chantal Reusken of the Dutch National Institute for Public Health and the Environment (RIVM) explains that a second test can also be positive because the patient has a residue of nonreplicating viral RNA from their original infection in their respiratory tract, because of an infection with two viruses at the same time or because they had suppressed but never fully cleared the virus."

    Then there is this chart from the CDC showing that on September 4, the last date data was recorded, that one out of every 6 recorded cases of Covid was in the vaccinated: https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status.

    So I do not what the douches are talking about. I have seen people not clear Covid for 4 weeks. Most people do, but there are many who do not. Of course, I have only seen hundreds of cases in person while the douches watch MSNBC and read the NYT and pat each other on the back about how smart they are.

    As for Paulie's contention, there are two sides, there are. The Republican retards who do not want to vax anyone including 80 year olds with poor immunity, and the Democratic douches who want to vaccinate healthy 5 year olds..
    Here a question, with all these vax mandates, why the fuck don't they apply to Congress?

  7. #2196
    https://thebogotapost.com/colombia-t...mber-16/49401/

    'This includes: Pubs, bars, cinemas, nightclubs, concerts, casinos, sports events, church services, museums, and theme parks. From November 16, anyone over the age of 18 will need to show their vaccination proof.'

    That's the gist of it.

  8. #2195
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Or better yet, maybe I should not believe the documents she showed me confirming this. Afterall, documents can be made to show anything. Yes; everything and everybody in this world is one big lie. I guess we should not believe your lies about getting covid after being vaccinated either.
    Let's dissect this again.

    Meanwhile I am talking to a Mexican chick that has been vaccinated and is currently on her second bout with covid in 1 month.
    You frequently bring something like this up. Who is this Mexican chick? What documents did she show you? Why did she show them to you? What Mexican chick is sending her vaccine card and her medical records to some guy she's talking to? Why would some guy ask a girl to prove something like that? Doesn't make sense.

    Here's what I think happened. You fabricated the whole thing, in an attempt to show the vaccine is useless. When I called bullshit, you fabricated that the imaginary girl had shown you documents. As is so often the case with you, you failed to think any of it through.

    As I already pointed out, 2 positive Covid tests in one month is not an indication of 2 different Covid infections. Another thing you failed to think through is that your example shows your belief that naturally acquired immunity is better than the vaccine, is more bullshit. Again I'll break that down to dumbfuck level for you.

    If she caught Covid twice in one month, the first case shows the vaccines aren't 100% effective, something everyone knows. However, the second infection shows that naturally acquired immunity is much lower than the vaccine. It should be nearly impossible to get reinfected in less than 3 weeks if recovering from Covid provides any protection, because your body is still producing antibodies. The only way that works is if having Covid completely removes any protection against Covid.

    To further explore your bullshit, Covid affects people differently. Some are only sick for a few days. Some go through multiple cycles of being sick. Some are sick for months. My own about I was slightly I'll for 2 days, felt fine for 5 days, became extremely I'll for a day, was only slightly I'll for 2 weeks and then was extremely I'll for 10 days. That's more than a month with 1 about. There was also an additional 2 months with a persistent cough.

    As for my getting sick with Covid, you caught me. I spent 2 weeks in the Bogota Courtyard by Marriott, without leaving my room, just to convince everyone the vaccines don't work. Yep. Absolutely.

    Have I mentioned that you write shit without bothering to think it through?

  9. #2194
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Or better yet, maybe I should not believe the documents she showed me confirming this. Afterall, documents can be made to show anything. Yes; everything and everybody in this world is one big lie. I guess we should not believe your lies about getting covid after being vaccinated either.
    I've tried really hard. I really have.

    What documents? Hmmm? Is this just more of the complete bullshit you're rather famous for? Two positive Covid tests in 1 month. You understand that if you contract Covid you will likely test positive for up to 3 months. That's why a negative test after infection is not required. Let me just clarify that for the dumbfucks in the audience. If you test positive for Covid, and you get tested again within a month, you're almost certain to test positive again.

    Meanwhile you keep crying about some big, bad bullies trying to shame you for not getting vaccinated. I'll buy you a crying towel and a box of tampons.

    Remember just a few weeks ago when you were trying to shame me because I said the authorities have the right to search your phone? Remember arguing that they couldn't and wouldn't do that? Remember when you found out that I was right that you tried to shame me for explaining the shit in detail?

    Let's face it. You're a Useless, pathetic fuck that has no fucking idea what he's talking about, and lacks the sense to shut his fucking cock garage.

  10. #2193
    Quote Originally Posted by FunLuvr  [View Original Post]
    I am in Medellin. I think the vaccine card is only required for sporting events, concerts, etc. I have been to two stores today, neither required anything other than a mask.
    Thanks FL. I will be in Cartagena soon. Hopefully, things are still mellow there.

  11. #2192
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Or better yet, maybe I should not believe the documents she showed me confirming this. Afterall, documents can be made to show anything. Yes; everything and everybody in this world is one big lie. I guess we should not believe your lies about getting covid after being vaccinated either.
    Here we go again with the douches pretending they have knowledge, https://www.science.org/content/arti...s-quickly-some "To count as a case of reinfection, a patient must have had a positive polymerase chain reaction (PCR) test twice with at least one symptom-free month in between. But virologist Chantal Reusken of the Dutch National Institute for Public Health and the Environment (RIVM) explains that a second test can also be positive because the patient has a residue of nonreplicating viral RNA from their original infection in their respiratory tract, because of an infection with two viruses at the same time or because they had suppressed but never fully cleared the virus."

    Then there is this chart from the CDC showing that on September 4, the last date data was recorded, that one out of every 6 recorded cases of Covid was in the vaccinated: https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status.

    So I do not what the douches are talking about. I have seen people not clear Covid for 4 weeks. Most people do, but there are many who do not. Of course, I have only seen hundreds of cases in person while the douches watch MSNBC and read the NYT and pat each other on the back about how smart they are.

    As for Paulie's contention, there are two sides, there are. The Republican retards who do not want to vax anyone including 80 year olds with poor immunity, and the Democratic douches who want to vaccinate healthy 5 year olds.

    What I hope we have here is a third side, those interested in the truth. Paulie's comment that Covid is often life and death perplexes me. 95+% of people are told to go home and isolate and nothing happens to them. Some are sicker and require treatment with drugs like Regeneron, and what we do see is people coming in profoundly low on oxygen. The only time I would describe this as "life and death" is in a hospital where no oxygen is available. In every case I have seen, you put these people on oxygen and shortly thereafter the oxygen levels return to normal. There is the fear said people will go on a ventilator, and it happens, but I personally have never seen it.

    As for the deaths, the only one I have seen is in a patient with cancer who refused to be put on a ventilator. Cause of death on death certificates is horribly unreliable, and most doctors just put down whatever the government wants to hear. When Italy stripped all secondary causes and listed only pure Covid deaths, the number of Covid deaths dropped by 97%.

    So I put 100 X more value on what people like what you say Mr. E than what I see on the news.

    I have picked on the douches more because they have the government's ear, and I have been frustrated by the attempt to lower the often life and death Covid infections (cough, cough) with idiotic travel bans, often pointless vaccines, worthless lockdowns, and now the all too frequent painful and expensive Covid tests (on day one or three because why?

    Do you all remember the days when travel and vaccines only had one side, the truth? Ah yes, those were the days my friend, and I hope they return soon.

  12. #2191
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Hey, are you in Colombia? My gal just told me I have to bring my vaccine card as it is required everywhere. She is in Bogota. Are you seeing that too?
    I am in Medellin. I think the vaccine card is only required for sporting events, concerts, etc. I have been to two stores today, neither required anything other than a mask.

  13. #2190
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Or better yet, maybe I should not believe the documents she showed me confirming this. Afterall, documents can be made to show anything. Yes; everything and everybody in this world is one big lie. I guess we should not believe your lies about getting covid after being vaccinated either.
    I guess they think you cannot get Covid after being vaccinated. The CDC shows that on the last day measured in September, September 4 on this chart, that out of one in six recorded infections occurred in the vaccinated. See the link: https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status.

    As for getting it twice in one month, that is certainly possible. I see people who test + 4 weeks after initially testing + all the time. I would not put that under common (most people clear it by 4 weeks) but would say it is not uncommon, and I fail to see why anyone would lie about this.

    I guess if you think Covid is often a case of life and death you would be skeptical. I have not seen anyone die of pure Covid. Only death I have seen is a 93 year old with cancer where Covid was claimed to be the cause of death. I have seen people very often who are very sick with very low oxygen but once oxygen is put on them, they come up to normal or near normal pretty quickly. So often really sick? Sure. Life or death? Nah.

    Paulie is right that there are two sides. Hopefully, here we try to get to the third side, the truth. We have the Republican who say Covid does not exist.

    But we also have these Democratic douches have been exaggerating the effects of the virus since day one for political gain: https://nypost.com/2021/09/17/bill-m...-19-reporting/.

    And thanks to these douches and their "scientists" we have had to endure these pointless travel bans, expensive, painful, and ridiculous swabs and now have to prove that we have been vaccinated to travel, and I guess to go out to eat now in Colombia.

    I long for the day when travel vaccines and travel plans were what they used to be, directed by people on only one side, the side of the truth. Do you remember when getting vaccinated to travel used to make sense?

  14. #2189
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    I'm sure you realize this already, but you shouldn't accept everything everyone says as the truth, even if it comes from a Mexican chick.
    Or better yet, maybe I should not believe the documents she showed me confirming this. Afterall, documents can be made to show anything. Yes; everything and everybody in this world is one big lie. I guess we should not believe your lies about getting covid after being vaccinated either.

  15. #2188
    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    "herd immunity" is a very appropriat term when you think about it. Vaccinating the sheeple.
    You are two for two on the one liners JustTK. I love it.

    Hey, are you in Colombia? My gal just told me I have to bring my vaccine card as it is required everywhere. She is in Bogota. Are you seeing that too?

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