Bangkok Reports

[EihTooms]

There always the specter of a possible raid. I don't think I would ever sit down and have a drink at this point.

I sat down in a bar last night and had a coke but knew almost everyone else in the place was drinking alcohol. It would have been no different in any number of regular restaurants in the area, even after 9 pm.

We should all be wary of a possible round up and arrest of everyone in such a venue for the time being. But I have not yet read or heard of customer or patron round ups and arrests in Bangkok based on alcohol consumption alone in the absence of overcrowding, congestion or, in at least one case, group dancing.

I have read and heard of customer round ups where alcohol is also mentioned; in bars and at parties, gatherings of more than 5 people. And where alcohol was not a factor at all; orgies, protest gatherings, concerts, again, groups of more than 5.

But I have not yet read or heard of customer round ups where, for example, the 5 or fewer people in a well ventilated restaurant or bar where overcrowding and congestion was not an issue at all were caught drinking alcohol in cups at the wrong hour. Yet the authorities could have been conducting such group arrests of patrons anywhere and everywhere every night for more than a year.

Anyway, I'm just saying the factor that triggers customer round ups in Bangkok so far appears to be all about overcrowded conditions for the venue and little or nothing to do with what the liquid is in our cup. Even though the reports will throw in a mention that some or all customers rounded up somewhere were drinking alcohol and the person serving the alcohol was arrested for serving alcohol, that wasn't the problem that got anyone's attention and triggered the round up.

Alcohol consumption isn't necessary to be caught in a round up. I would not be drinking alcohol yet would still be part of the round up if I entered or remained in a poorly ventilated, overcrowded room or environment whether it was a bar, a Starbucks or a movie theater. Therefore, those are the conditions I try to take note of and avoid these days.

[Goatscrot]

Just heads up bro. I was walking to there the other night. The entire street including the little side cart bars were dark. Random Club had the metal doors pulled down. The alley bars had lights on and I can hear some people chattering, but no music. There was police in the brown uniforms on motorcycles by the entrance. They tell me not open. I was little scared and kept walking. Maybe I will try the sideliners next. I like white skin girls.

There always the specter of a possible raid. I don't think I would ever sit down and have a drink at this point.

[Goatscrot]

I totally get your approach and I would do the same thing if I was here a long time. But for those of us who might only be here a week or two, I'm wondering if there's a way to speed up that process. A board member is taking me to see the hotel girls this weekend, so that might do the trick, but I'm sure others wonder how to best attack the problem. I was surprised by the number of cute girls in Soi 7 the first night I walked through there, but there were fewer winners the second night. I do think most average looking guys could walk in there and find some girl that fits his type, but maybe I'm too optimistic. I don't know about prices.

Yes, you are correct. I don't really think the sidelines game is suited to the short-term visitor. I can't stress enough how much time is required doing research. But hey it's kind of fun reading reports and looking at pictures.

In addition many of the girls don't speak English or speak very limited English. Speaking at least some Thai is an enormous help. I would imagine some of the girls would be quite uncomfortable with someone who didn't speak Thai at all. I found that some are quite thrilled when I walk into the room and start joking with them in their language. It's quite a good ice breaker.

[Goatscrot]

I understand and appreciate what you're saying, Goatscrot. But, as I recall, you're mostly a "cum on" punter who much prefers to pull out and cum on the girl's face, stomach, wherever rather than a "cum in" punter who much prefers to stay inside for a BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM, right? If so, your preference is ideally suited to those lovely young and always safety-first sideliners who I imagine are not going to do either of those latter options nearly as willingly and hassle-free as the girls on the ground in any beer bar, go-go bar and so on. And certainly not for Long Time.

I for one am willing to compromise on the looks you cited since without at least one or both of those two latter options included happily, willingly and without hassle, a lovely young sideliner is about as useful to me in any quality level hotel room as an interesting potted plant.

Yup, don't need BBFS. It's nice on occasion but not a necessity. Many of the sideline gals will do BBBJ CIM (it'll tell you right in the description).

I'm a two shot per session guy and as I've gotten older if the looks aren't there, that second shot isn't either.

[Explorer8939]

January 16th I believe gogo and bars were told recently! Hopefully true, comes from very good sources (gogo bar owner)! Hope this helps and is true without anymore jam ups!

To be clear, January is not an official opening date, it's a No Earlier Than date. It could move.

[Banana Boi]

January 16th I believe gogo and bars were told recently! Hopefully true, comes from very good sources (gogo bar owner)! Hope this helps and is true without anymore jam ups!

A lot can happen between now and January 16. I may even be the new co-owners of Skyfall. It'll be one way of rectifying my ban from the club.

[RacShack]

I walked through there two nights ago and a few girls were sitting there talking, including a momasan (SP?) type woman. They tried to get me to stop, but I wanted to take a look at the massage places along the other street before they closed. When I came back through, I stopped and talked to them for a few minutes. The older woman said that they were told that they would open next year. I'm not sure what next year meant. At the time, I thought she meant January, but it occurs to me now that she could have meant much later than that. The fact that I'm in Thailand for a year and I might not see a single gogo bar is really pretty sad. Of course, I wouldn't be here if not for Covid, so I guess it evens out.

The one cute girl in the group gave me her Line. I might have taken her home right then, but everyone was all over me trying to get me to buy a beer for myself and for them. It was awful, so I bailed. I also didn't want to get in trouble, so I told them I would only drink water. Anyway, I left after 5 minutes. The girl messaged me later and offered 3000ST and 5000 LT. I told her that I could have a girl for half of that who would do a lot of extras and she said she wasn't one of those girls and I said good luck finding customers and that was it. Too bad, she was cute.

January 16th I believe gogo and bars were told recently! Hopefully true, comes from very good sources (gogo bar owner)! Hope this helps and is true without anymore jam ups!

[EihTooms]

Just heads up bro. I was walking to there the other night. The entire street including the little side cart bars were dark. Random Club had the metal doors pulled down. The alley bars had lights on and I can hear some people chattering, but no music. There was police in the brown uniforms on motorcycles by the entrance. They tell me not open. I was little scared and kept walking. Maybe I will try the sideliners next. I like white skin girls.

What time was that? Random Bar does usually close and they pull down those metal doors at about 9 pm.

Tonight, all the bars on Soi 7 and all but 2-3 beer bars on Soi 4 were open. The bars on Soi 8 and Soi 11 were all open. There were so many bars open from Thermae, which has not opened yet, to down Soi 4 to the Soi 6 intersection the available girls were spread out everywhere, not concentrated as much in those Soi 7 bars as before.

I only stopped by Soi 7 at about 7 pm, quickly picked up a tight body young girl for ST and did not cruise past those and other bars again until just before 9 pm. Then I went home. But they were all open at that time too. Just passing by it appeared to me some of the better looking girls were in Hillary 2 on this night.

It really is unpredictable from one night and hour to the next right now. If anyone is interested in that option for picking up girls these days, it is best to cruise by as many of the bars on those sois as possible and not take the conditions on any one bar area as a sign for what's available on a given night. It can be dead on one soi and a party on the next.

[CIMguy]

I've passed through the Soi 7 complex a few times over the last couple of weeks at different times of the evening and must say I was less than impressed each time. As one poster said, talent was similar to the low end of Soi 6 in Pattaya. After getting used to the looks of the sideline gals, which has been my only hunting ground since early this year, the gals on 7 are really hard on the eyes. Yes, it takes a lot of time and effort to weed through the chaff with sideliners, but for me the effort is well worth it. The thought of possibly paying a BF and then having to pay for a grungy ST hotel and 1 k to 1500 for one shot for a gal with marginal looks just doesn't add up for me when I tend to get 90 min 2 shots for 1800-2200 and it's usually in a pretty decent hotel room or at times in the gal's room or condo. To each his own I guess.

I totally get your approach and I would do the same thing if I was here a long time. But for those of us who might only be here a week or two, I'm wondering if there's a way to speed up that process. A board member is taking me to see the hotel girls this weekend, so that might do the trick, but I'm sure others wonder how to best attack the problem. I was surprised by the number of cute girls in Soi 7 the first night I walked through there, but there were fewer winners the second night. I do think most average looking guys could walk in there and find some girl that fits his type, but maybe I'm too optimistic. I don't know about prices.

[CIMguy]

I have walked around soi cowboy during the day and at night several times over the last few months. At daytime there are many street food vendors outside the bars that line the soi. It is interesting to see Bacarra outside tables being used as a small food court during the day. At night it is completely dark at the moment with the exception of 1 small bar towards soi 21 and there is some activity at the other end around kazykosy. Everything else is completely dark. You do see small groups of thais hanging around in the dark having a beer, but I assume they work there maintaining the very closed bars.

All bars are closed up but you can see in many of them. Most of the furniture is just sitting inside gathering dust. I am sure when things open they will all be cleaned up and spring back into action. The businesses that did not survive will come back with different owners.

I walked through there two nights ago and a few girls were sitting there talking, including a momasan (SP?) type woman. They tried to get me to stop, but I wanted to take a look at the massage places along the other street before they closed. When I came back through, I stopped and talked to them for a few minutes. The older woman said that they were told that they would open next year. I'm not sure what next year meant. At the time, I thought she meant January, but it occurs to me now that she could have meant much later than that. The fact that I'm in Thailand for a year and I might not see a single gogo bar is really pretty sad. Of course, I wouldn't be here if not for Covid, so I guess it evens out.

The one cute girl in the group gave me her Line. I might have taken her home right then, but everyone was all over me trying to get me to buy a beer for myself and for them. It was awful, so I bailed. I also didn't want to get in trouble, so I told them I would only drink water. Anyway, I left after 5 minutes. The girl messaged me later and offered 3000ST and 5000 LT. I told her that I could have a girl for half of that who would do a lot of extras and she said she wasn't one of those girls and I said good luck finding customers and that was it. Too bad, she was cute.

[ElMexicant]

I've passed through the Soi 7 complex a few times over the last couple of weeks at different times of the evening and must say I was less than impressed each time. As one poster said, talent was similar to the low end of Soi 6 in Pattaya. After getting used to the looks of the sideline gals, which has been my only hunting ground since early this year, the gals on 7 are really hard on the eyes. Yes, it takes a lot of time and effort to weed through the chaff with sideliners, but for me the effort is well worth it. The thought of possibly paying a BF and then having to pay for a grungy ST hotel and 1 k to 1500 for one shot for a gal with marginal looks just doesn't add up for me when I tend to get 90 min 2 shots for 1800-2200 and it's usually in a pretty decent hotel room or at times in the gal's room or condo. To each his own I guess.

Just heads up bro. I was walking to there the other night. The entire street including the little side cart bars were dark. Random Club had the metal doors pulled down. The alley bars had lights on and I can hear some people chattering, but no music. There was police in the brown uniforms on motorcycles by the entrance. They tell me not open. I was little scared and kept walking. Maybe I will try the sideliners next. I like white skin girls.

[TheRobert]

Cheers mate, thanks for all your updates. They've been really helpful.

Anyone (including CIMguy) have suggestions for a nice girl-friendly hotel near the action?

I have stayed at Four Points Sheraton, circa 15 minutes walk from Bangla. Nice new hotel with two great pools. It is located in the beginning of Patpong beach.

And I agree with CIMguy. Phuket was way more relaxed and interesting from nightlife perspective.

[EihTooms]

I've passed through the Soi 7 complex a few times over the last couple of weeks at different times of the evening and must say I was less than impressed each time. As one poster said, talent was similar to the low end of Soi 6 in Pattaya. After getting used to the looks of the sideline gals, which has been my only hunting ground since early this year, the gals on 7 are really hard on the eyes. Yes, it takes a lot of time and effort to weed through the chaff with sideliners, but for me the effort is well worth it. The thought of possibly paying a BF and then having to pay for a grungy ST hotel and 1 k to 1500 for one shot for a gal with marginal looks just doesn't add up for me when I tend to get 90 min 2 shots for 1800-2200 and it's usually in a pretty decent hotel room or at times in the gal's room or condo. To each his own I guess.

I understand and appreciate what you're saying, Goatscrot. But, as I recall, you're mostly a "cum on" punter who much prefers to pull out and cum on the girl's face, stomach, wherever rather than a "cum in" punter who much prefers to stay inside for a BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM, right? If so, your preference is ideally suited to those lovely young and always safety-first sideliners who I imagine are not going to do either of those latter options nearly as willingly and hassle-free as the girls on the ground in any beer bar, go-go bar and so on. And certainly not for Long Time.

I for one am willing to compromise on the looks you cited since without at least one or both of those two latter options included happily, willingly and without hassle, a lovely young sideliner is about as useful to me in any quality level hotel room as an interesting potted plant.

[Goatscrot]

On the issue of barfines at those Soi 7 bars, although there are certainly some freelancers passing through on their way to or from the front of (closed) Thermae, some who primarily work Tinder, ThaiFriendly and so on where there is no barfine involved, that collection of bars does NOT currently follow the Thermae freelancer business model with every girl at every bar.

For example, there are several girls in those Soi 7 bars who only hustle Ladydrinks and drinks for you but don't go with customers (well, not directly, that is). Right away you can see that is nothing like meeting a girl in Thermae where there is no such thing as a Ladydrink for which the girls get a commission or a barfine to pay the bar before taking a girl out of the bar.

Btw, I recommend anybody ask the girl if she goes with customers for Short Times or Long Times before buying her or yourself a drink at her bar if possibly having sex with her is part of your plan. Wait for a clear Yes or No to that simple question before settling in to order a drink. And if it is No, there is nothing wrong and everything right about smiling, thanking her and moving on to a girl who will have sex with you if the notion occurs.

It can also be the same as it is in Thermae in some cases; no Ladydrink, no LD commission, no barfine.

What you described is a common scenario in those Soi 7 bars; the girl and the bar have an arrangement where her presence has enough value to the bar in terms of drawing customers to sit and buy drinks that they provide her with a commission for every Ladydrink that is bought for her. Some girls might get a more generous commission than others.

Therefore, it is also understood that the bar suffers a bit of a loss by that girl's absence if she is taken out by a customer, right? Hence, a barfine is "charged" to take her out.

I've passed through the Soi 7 complex a few times over the last couple of weeks at different times of the evening and must say I was less than impressed each time. As one poster said, talent was similar to the low end of Soi 6 in Pattaya. After getting used to the looks of the sideline gals, which has been my only hunting ground since early this year, the gals on 7 are really hard on the eyes. Yes, it takes a lot of time and effort to weed through the chaff with sideliners, but for me the effort is well worth it. The thought of possibly paying a BF and then having to pay for a grungy ST hotel and 1 k to 1500 for one shot for a gal with marginal looks just doesn't add up for me when I tend to get 90 min 2 shots for 1800-2200 and it's usually in a pretty decent hotel room or at times in the gal's room or condo. To each his own I guess.

[EihTooms]

So, you took her out on a trip and paid for it?.

Yes, but what paid for was a Long Time from 8:30 pm until mid-morning the next day. In that case we settled on 2,000 baht + 500 barfine, DFK, shaved pussy, BBBJ and BBFS+CIP all fully and happily agreed to upfront in the bar before I decided to take her. Great real GFE all night. So there was no need to get to my room quickly as would have been my choice if it was only a Short Time. We were in my room, showered, naked and well into it by 10 pm that night.

On the situation at Soi Cowboy, my observations lately are the same as MaxBkk's.