Pattaya Reports

[Explorer8939]

Bar girls lie.

Yeah, I know, that's a shocking revelation. But, a lot of guys forget that when the little head takes over.

In the bars I frequent (actually restaurants), I have known some of the ladies for many years, and they tend to be pretty truthful, since there is nothing to gain from lying to me. But, the newer ladies will lie constantly to me. Fortunately for me, there's a lot of rivalry for customers, so the other ladies will fill me in on the dirt for ladies they don't like.

I had one lady tell me she doesn't like Thai men, why would she go with a Thai man? The next lady told me all about that lady's Thai boyfriend, a moto driver.

My ex tells me she has a regular customer, but he only barfines her in the day, she tells him she has a daughter and cannot spend the night. But, according to her, he is only a customer, not the boyfriend. The next lady told me they are house hunting together, which my ex verified when she was drunk.

Of course, the ladies lie about not having customers, but then they post Facebook photos of themselves in hotel rooms.

The point is to ignore what the ladies tell you, and only think about what's in front of you right now.

[Banana Boi]

I lost my #2 massage lady. She was coming over to do overnights for 2,000 baht about once a week, showing up after work, and staying until the morning.

Well, she got pouty about coming once a week, and why I took another lady to Samui. So, I got some nasty messages.

She'll be back once she realizes that she is missing 2000 baht weekly income.

[Geyser]

I saw some videos on youtube where the hotels are charging 500 baht to allow the girls in room.

Any recommended hotel that does not charge to take girls inside the room? I am trying to stay near walking street or beach so it can be easy to get to the bars and action.

BTW nice posts Mogwai, CIMGuy, Horsetrader and Explorer.

I would suggest Dream Hotel and P72. Never had any problem with them.

[Visal]

When you book a hotel room, be sure to book for 2 people. That eliminates the 500 baht joiner fee.

Thanks Explorer8939, that's good to know and practical too.

Also thanks El Frances.

[El Frances]

I saw some videos on youtube where the hotels are charging 500 baht to allow the girls in room.

Any recommended hotel that does not charge to take girls inside the room? I am trying to stay near walking street or beach so it can be easy to get to the bars and action.

BTW nice posts Mogwai, CIMGuy, Horsetrader and Explorer.

I would tend to think that most hotels in the Soi Bukhao soi Diana area are GF. There may be also some listings you can get on google by typing girl friendly hotels pattaya.

In any case, send an email to the hotel in order to check they don't charge a joiner fee. No reason to be shy to do that.

Never make a booking without getting direct confirmation (email you can show) from the hotel that they don't charge a joiner fee if you bring a girl to your room.

They will always ask for the girl's ID for security reason, so make sure the girl has an ID before bringing her.

[Explorer8939]

I lost my #2 massage lady. She was coming over to do overnights for 2,000 baht about once a week, showing up after work, and staying until the morning.

Well, she got pouty about coming once a week, and why I took another lady to Samui. So, I got some nasty messages.

[Explorer8939]

I saw some videos on youtube where the hotels are charging 500 baht to allow the girls in room.

Any recommended hotel that does not charge to take girls inside the room? I am trying to stay near walking street or beach so it can be easy to get to the bars and action.

BTW nice posts Mogwai, CIMGuy, Horsetrader and Explorer.

When you book a hotel room, be sure to book for 2 people. That eliminates the 500 baht joiner fee.

[Visal]

I saw some videos on youtube where the hotels are charging 500 baht to allow the girls in room.

Any recommended hotel that does not charge to take girls inside the room? I am trying to stay near walking street or beach so it can be easy to get to the bars and action.

BTW nice posts Mogwai, CIMGuy, Horsetrader and Explorer.

[CIMguy]

And apart from that I don't like being in the centre of attention, when dozens of girls want to go with me. I have never liked beer bars as well, for the same reason. Or agogo's with only a few customers.

I agree with this. I don't really want the girl to hang on me and I don't want to be the center of attention in public. It makes me self conscious and uncomfortable. Talking is fine as long as I'm not being barraged with requests.

[Explorer8939]

Camel Toe restaurant has a new lady recruiter who used to find girls for Walking Street gogos. Which means that former gogo ladies are showing up to work at Camel Toe. Big competition for the MILFs there.

[Turgid]

Yes, being naked seems to be a reasonable line of demarcation for a girl I meet somewhere and then bring to my hotel.

What about the case where you meet someone online and she travels to your hotel but does not please you? I've only done this a couple of times in Thailand and I was pleased as soon as I met her in the hotel lobby. I don't know how I would react if a different girl showed up or if her appearance was a major downgrade from online pictures. Attitude also enters into the equation.

I've never had a different girl show up or even a downgrade so major as to be a problem, as I've had so few online encounters in my travels. However, if I did not want the session I'd probably give her transportation money plus a little extra for her time.

[Chimpo Chinn]

As long as she was naked especially if I touched her body giving her money would be the proper thing to do. I look at it as I am in a much more financially privileged position than she is so its the right thing to do.

Say you had a deal for 2,000. Girl take 200 and leave with no drama. I wouldn't take it as a MOVE ON. ID worry as to the girls frame of mind. Lots of Thai girls are vicious as Hell. A 80 lb isan girl would be Stupid to try and physically get full payment from a Hulking Tipsy Norwegian. But a call to the local Taxi Guys might be in order.

[Mogwai]

I am not understanding why anyone is ordering ladies off the internet, when you can see them in person at TreeTown or Camel Toe. Dozens and dozens of ladies looking for customers.

For me the answer to that is simple: I need to know beforehand if they offer BBFS, because I hate condoms, and asking that discreetly in a full bar or restaurant is difficult. I cannot keep it up anymore when it's wrapped in rubber, so 'going with the flow' is not an option for me anymore. I used to do that in the past, up to about 10 years ago or so, but the success rate was too low and I had enough of all the disappointments.

And apart from that I don't like being in the centre of attention, when dozens of girls want to go with me. I have never liked beer bars as well, for the same reason. Or agogo's with only a few customers.

[Explorer8939]

I went to Camel Toe to check out the army of new ladies. Loads of ladies new to this restaurant, all types from spinners to MILFs. I went with a MILF (we had arranged to meet before). She had some drinks and spilled her guts about the other ladies, but then she started getting jealous of the lady I am taking to Koh Samui for 4 days. Not really jealous, but bargirl jealous. Anyway, she was enthusiastic about giving me sloppy BJs while we drank, but the actual sex was almost anticlimactic, she just wanted me to finish fast and went back to drinking. Then she got so wasted, she couldn't get under the covers and froze all night in bed, I had to wrap her in towels.

There may be drama today. I am taking my ex to Koh Samui, since she has begged me for a month to take her. But my ex, who works in Camel Toe, has a new customer on the hook, he is ready to have her move into her place. So, if she were smart, she would tell me she can't go with me today. I would get mad, but her new customer would appreciate it, and it would be better for her long time. But, being a bargirl, she will go for the short term benefit and try to lie to her new customer about what she is doing in Samui. Anyway, if she decides not to go, I will be fine in Samui alone.

One of my massage ladies realized I haven't seen her in a week, so she pulled the guilt trip on me. I told her I will be out of town for a while, great sadness ensued. Anyway, I will have her come over for an overnighter before her rent is due.

There are probably 500 or so new "tourists" coming to Pattaya every day. Maybe some are ex-pats and some are tourists. So TreeTown gets more people, and restaurants with ladies get more customers, but 500 people can't make a dent in the massage shops, there are still so many that don't have many customers.

The sister of my ex is angling to somehow get into pole position with me, now that her sister is almost hooked up with a new boyfriend. She has 2 disadvantages, she lives with a Thai boyfriend and she doesn't like to fuck. She is constantly pleading to go somewhere with me. And to come drink in my place. She wants to drink with another lady, but has the problem that some ladies when they get drunk, they like to feel her up, or lick her pussy. So, next time she comes, she is bringing someone new, she looks like a fairly hot civvie.

Last note: it's my practice, if I go to a bar a lot, is to buy drinks for the mamasan. It's always good to have the mamasan like you, much more than the Farang manager. If you are in with the mamasan, she will alert you to new ladies, especially FOB ladies. And help you with problems with the ladies.

[HorseTrader]

As long as she was naked especially if I touched her body giving her money would be the proper thing to do. I look at it as I am in a much more financially privileged position than she is so its the right thing to do.

Yes, being naked seems to be a reasonable line of demarcation for a girl I meet somewhere and then bring to my hotel.

What about the case where you meet someone online and she travels to your hotel but does not please you? I've only done this a couple of times in Thailand and I was pleased as soon as I met her in the hotel lobby. I don't know how I would react if a different girl showed up or if her appearance was a major downgrade from online pictures. Attitude also enters into the equation.