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11-25-21 20:37 #33153
Posts: 17Originally Posted by MadDin19 [View Original Post]
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11-25-21 20:29 #33152
Posts: 17Originally Posted by Oakie [View Original Post]
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11-25-21 18:34 #33151
Posts: 69Originally Posted by SamSam2004 [View Original Post]
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11-25-21 17:53 #33150
Posts: 1908Originally Posted by SamSam2004 [View Original Post]
You said:
"On la Clisante between 2:00 pm and 7:00 I took 3 girls for 1500 on Short time. On tinder I sent the same message to all the girls I matched: 1000 for short time, 2000 for the whole night with 2 shots. If you live after the first time I pay you only 1000 and same thing if you live before 8:00 am. Some chicas sent smileys, some tried to bargain which I have automatically rejected, and some accepted. They weren't the pretty ones of course, but I only took these ones."
Let me get this straight.
You found pussy, didn't overpay, and you say they respected you.
So, what's your beef?
Most of us can find ugly girls to fuck, for free back home. No need to spend $thousands on airlines and hotels.
The beauty of Sosua (and other sex tourist spots) is that you can find young, beautiful chicas, that would not look out of place in a beauty contest, or on a fashion show runway, or on TV, belting out her latest hit.
Now you won't get a P4P WG for your 1000,1500, 2000, unless she's drunk, or desperate for a fix. You can't get steak at hamburger prices.
And as an expat here, I can tell you that $80, $100 and even $200 hookers do give good service, although we don't pay those "monger prices". We hang with them and party with them as friends. Some I've known for years.
But you wouldn't know, because you say you wouldn't pay those prices.
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11-25-21 04:48 #33149
Posts: 17Maybe some of you don't care about the money, all right. But do you care about the performance of the girl? Because let me tell you something very true that many long time mongers can confirm: The more you pay, the less the girl is going to respect you and take care of your needs. That's a fact. When you overpay she'll think you're stupid and therefore you don't deserve to be taking care of properly. She'll try to press you like hell and end the meeting as soon as she can. That's how they act and not only in DR. I've been in Colombia, Brazil, Paraguay, Peru, Thailand, Philippines, Cambodia, Vietnam, Morocco, Tanzania, Kenya, Burma, all over Europe and it's always the same story. Overpaying won't get you better sex and actually It's probably going to be quite the opposite. And the fact that you can afford to pay 200 Usd for a pack of m&m's will only make you stupid if you pay that amount. It won't taste any better than the 2 Usd pack. You will only blow it for the others who can't pay that price. You are killing the scene. If you look at Sosua now, you have to pay more for awful sex most of the time. That's the only thing you get when people overpay. Do what you want anyway, but for me, I don't think I'll be back anytime soon here.
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11-25-21 04:44 #33148
Posts: 3700New dynamics
What you have here is a generation change. I guess I'm the bridge but I was broke in on the old school so that's how I operate. In the mid 2000's it was a different time and a different attitude. Guys kept secrets and operated within guidelines. My dad and uncles would come to the DR and it would be a secret. Usually the excuses such as to play golf or get their teeth fixed and it wasn't no internet or social media, so the secret was safe.
Now we have the new generation that don't operate within these guidelines. It's every man for themselves and do what you want. Old vets have heard " mind your own business old school and it's my money not yours". The internet and social media has made it a free fall. With that the girls have changed from GFE to hourly fucks. Before the girls didn't have phones but now it's as normal as high top tennis shoes. Also mongers have become lazy because the internet has given everyone instant access.
I'm stuck in the old way and I even have changed with the times. I have never paid 100 usd for an hour but I have paid 80 usd for TLN which includes morning fun. I have learned to mind my own business and let the new guys do what.
They want. No more taking guys under my wing and trying to school them to the old ways because times have changed and they don't care.
I guess I'm an old dinosaur in a new mans game LOL.
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11-25-21 03:03 #33147
Posts: 152You got it
Originally Posted by Oakie [View Original Post]
He didn't get what he wanted, still horny back in the sex prison he decides to go on a date with an entitled dusty girl.
He spent $150 on the date, then she wants $500 to help on a her car note. After spending the whole 700, she gives him sum but entitled dusty now want her rent paid next month. LOL.
Going for lower quality is being weak, same as not negotiating to get close to the true price you can pay based on the number of days you have on the ground. First thing to do day one is to get as many numbers as possible then start negotiating. At some point you have to trust yourself that you have negotiating enough with a girl to either pass or pull the trigger. And just know that Mr Expact would get the same girl way cheaper than you because he has time on his side.
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11-24-21 23:49 #33146
Posts: 2492Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
I did have a chica tell me that the dollar is stronger so she has to charge more. I told her the flights or more so I have to give less. Do you think she cared how much I paid for my flight or how much prices have increased? The look on her face was dumbfounded. Whoever told her her reason was justified didn't prepare her for someone with a common sense rebuttal. I try stay out of the interactions of others who are not looking for information. But that Individualism is the reason why it's now a sellers market.
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11-24-21 23:04 #33145
Posts: 105My 2 cents
If I may time in and give my opinion on Sosua been coming since 2013 and now live here. As someone that remember when rumbas use to be back at 1500 and dlatin club the Sosua now and way different in quality back then even early hours you had 7's 8's chicas out so much so that vets use to tell me to wait and not be so thirsty because I wouldn't be able to take a real dime at night and I blow my load so early. The reason a lot has changed is because the dudes changed back in 2013 the guys coming where mongers who went other places like Brazil etc and the were seasoned mongers nowadays the guys coming are mostly newbie never been out the country first time mongering and a 4 looks like a dime to them so when a rat say 100 dollars they jump at it because it steal where they come from. Back then the newbie to Sosua weren't newbie to mongering is what I'm trying to say. Then the guys were either ex military frat guys or some type of professional now not so much you couldn't there weren't many just regular dudes only certain dudes even knew about it.
The police and social media is another big one dimes have instagram tinder etc they don't need to all the way to Sosua to find a date. I myself don't even take girls off the street only use tinder had a girl show up and she had her own car you won't see her in Rumbas or baliees. Now I fiind the quality in Sosua to be low but when I'm around guy who come once a year they think it great I think going forward Sosua is going to be a newbie mongering location some vets will still come because they have friends here but it not at the top of the list. Another thing I've noticed about town is a lot of guys are only here because Asia is closed or was and when it does open they will leave I know that is why I'm here waiting for the PI or (Thailand I know Thailand is open now but need it to be a bit easier.)
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11-24-21 18:04 #33144
Posts: 1908I have this vision of a guy from sex prison coming to Sosua, and sees the girl of his dreams. Right on the next bar stool. No cab ride across town, no fake photograph on some dating site, no showing up with her mother and brothers. She'll go for $80 dollars.
His buddy tells him not to go for it cause he'll "spoil the market" for all the other mongers! He'll tell him about all the cheap pussy he had in 2009.
Does he pull the trigger and risk humiliation by the monger crowd, and disappointing his buddy, or does he get exactly what he came for, maybe a memorable fuck he'll remember for a lifetime?
Turns out his "price control police union" buddies are getting ripped off royally by the cheap hoes. According to all reports posted here!
500,1000, or 1500, is a rip off if you are not getting what you really want!
LOL.
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11-24-21 18:00 #33143
Posts: 15986Originally Posted by OldKool [View Original Post]
I don't just go where sex tourism is tolerated and sex tourists are fleeced. I do not mind paying for pussy, but I am not going to be as happy as you are being gringo taxed for it. 3000 and 3500 is not a bargain in the Domimican Republic; it is a total sham!
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11-24-21 15:19 #33142
Posts: 3120To each his own
E you are an expat so your perspective is different from us in and out guys. We pay what is a price that make since to us. How much the average salary in DR is not a factor to us. There are rich guys in US who do pay 1500 for upscale working girls. Elliot Spitzer is an example. Sosua is a rare place in the DR where sex tourist are welcomed and catered to. If the price is not good for you move on. However thousand of guys visit and enjoy Sosua. I am one of them 3000 or 3500 is a bargain for the ease and quality. The quality is not what it once was but it is still awesome. I will be in Sosua very soon again. I have contacted some of the reliable girls I have been with and will have a great time and will be looking for new prospects.
Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
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11-24-21 14:04 #33141
Posts: 15986Originally Posted by Durandpaul [View Original Post]
It is the exact thing with SW in Tijuana. Go up and ask them how much and they will say $20. Say no I only have pesos and they will say 200 pesos, which is less than $10. But most mongers that go there are too lazy to exchange money and want to pay in dollars, so they rip themselves off.
The best comparison or contrast is to look at a casa like GBP in Santo Domingo where the locals go. It costs 1500 pesos for 1 hour. The girl keeps half of that. So if you are paying an independent SW 4 times as much as the 750 pesos per hour that she would get in a casa, it is not because that is how much things cost, as more it is that you are getting ripped off. Even SW in Santo Domingo only charge 1000 pesos versus the 4500 pesos those chicks in Sosua are asking for. Hell, I fucked a chick in the massage room of a hair salon in Santo Domingo for 500 pesos. THAT is how much things actually cost in DR!
But fair exchange is no robbery. If a guy did not think it was fair then he would do the same as SamSam and not pay that shit. The problem with Sosua is that most guys think it is fair compared to back home and are not considering how fair it is compared to the local market. That rocket has already left the launchpad though.
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11-24-21 12:21 #33140
Posts: 2492Originally Posted by Durandpaul [View Original Post]
During the time when there is little or no harassment any chica can walk freely on the strip. Many of them did not plan on going inside the clubs. There was no need to go inside a restaurant or the club. Many of our brothers we're not into The hip-hop / Dominican club scene. The action was outside. Many of us missed the days of posting up on the block watching the parade of SW looking for customers. With the abundance of chicas; it made the pricing competitive for business. It was a buyers market.
In the clubs they were asking 3000 average. You walk outside and their were many available chicas willing to take less. Many Overlooked Haitians and other Dominicans we're outside more cooperative and easy for the picking. Short time or long time was easily negotiated at a more reasonable price. There was 5 times more action on the outside of the clubs than the inside. The block was booming with freelancers. I experienced the same thing in Cuba with their inside and outside club night time active areas.
Now a days many of those chicas do not want to risk going to jail. Chicas are now isolated to hang out in certain areas like Bailey or Ahnvee. Bailey has turned into a chica's over priced union hall. Bailey has a history of being prejudiced toward Haitians as well as many of the other clubs.
The streets of the Sue currently look vastly empty compared to the pass. Chicas now ride around on motor scooters or in cars soliciting customers. In the past there were so SW chicas Night and day one could just sit outside of their motel room Bar and pick up chicas without stepping a foot on the block. Lower quality chicas are now willing to risk being incarcerated. Their attitudes reflect there monopoly on the current condition.
In my opinion the higher prices has nothing to do with the dollar. It has more to do with the control of available chicas, their mentality, and our accessibility to them.
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11-24-21 06:09 #33139
Posts: 152Free market is about supply and demand
Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
Sosua has been grigofied, and being close to guys from New York doesn't help. Sosua isn't what it used to be, and I fear things will continue to get worse as long as rumba, merrengue, and classico can't operate as in the past.