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  1. #33181
    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    Yep. $150 is still quite possible in a USA Major cities massage parlors or from independents when they get to know you well.
    $40 is normal at the tons of strip clubs where I am from. $150 must be New York and Los Angeles prices.

  2. #33180
    Quote Originally Posted by Sammon  [View Original Post]
    To each his own. Paying USA prices in other countries is absurd. I had kept a very pretty girl from Santiago for three days and she was happy with 2000 pesos a day. We toured everywhere and ate at nice restaurants. I do not like ST in general. Sex gets better if you stay together longer.

    Most I ever paid for sex was $1000. It happened in Atlantic City. I won lot of money one evening and I knew one Korean massage place I frequented. I knew the owner lady. They charged $150 for massage and sex for one hour. This time I asked the lady if I can have prettiest girl who needs to stay with me for two nights. She brought this young girl and said she is a fresh girl arrived that week. Cost for two days were negotiated $700. I told the lady that I will be taking the girl for dinner and shows like a GF and she needs to pack nice dresses. Lady said okay. And I knew usually the massage place holds the I. The of the girl and she needs to give to her. This girl said she just arrived in USA couple of weeks ago from a village in Korea. Very friendly. She did not want condom. We had a great fun filled 2 days. And I gave her $300 tip. Unfortunately after couple of weeks I went looking for but she was moved from there.

    Never paid more than $200ST in many places in USA.
    Yep. $150 is still quite possible in a USA Major cities massage parlors or from independents when they get to know you well. We're not talking model quality, but neither are the street girls of Pedro Gisante. Why people are cheerfully paying that kind of money in a third-world country is beyond comprehension.

  3. #33179

    Price point

    To each his own. Paying USA prices in other countries is absurd. I had kept a very pretty girl from Santiago for three days and she was happy with 2000 pesos a day. We toured everywhere and ate at nice restaurants. I do not like ST in general. Sex gets better if you stay together longer.

    Most I ever paid for sex was $1000. It happened in Atlantic City. I won lot of money one evening and I knew one Korean massage place I frequented. I knew the owner lady. They charged $150 for massage and sex for one hour. This time I asked the lady if I can have prettiest girl who needs to stay with me for two nights. She brought this young girl and said she is a fresh girl arrived that week. Cost for two days were negotiated $700. I told the lady that I will be taking the girl for dinner and shows like a GF and she needs to pack nice dresses. Lady said okay. And I knew usually the massage place holds the I. The of the girl and she needs to give to her. This girl said she just arrived in USA couple of weeks ago from a village in Korea. Very friendly. She did not want condom. We had a great fun filled 2 days. And I gave her $300 tip. Unfortunately after couple of weeks I went looking for but she was moved from there.

    Never paid more than $200ST in many places in USA.

  4. #33178
    Quote Originally Posted by GrownMan1  [View Original Post]
    Wow really my man? I don't disagree with your choice to disagree. But I think his generalization of chicas in Bailey holds weight.

    He's basing his opinion from living there, observing the culture, meeting the people, knowing the area, and putting you up on game. I agree with his View. I think it's a correct generalization.

    I'm familiar with a few of them and they mostly flock together. I'm also a little familiar with the ones known to provide good service. They don't hang out at the union hall. They have work to do or you can catch them in the Western Union line.

    Whatever your doing I applaud you. You're obviously doing something right and we all can learn from it. How often do they except whatever you offer? Would you say they give you the GFE experience? What's your record?
    First, I'd like to say that many of the regular contributors to this forum helped quite a bit during my research before the first trip, especially Oakie. His posts were fantastic. I was only disagreeing that all street girls were the bottom of the barrel. I know everyone has their own style. Some guys like to sit in Bailey's and take what I call "the deer stand approach", staying in one spot and choosing whatever walks by them. I can't do that; I have to go out and hunt. If it was during the day, I walked the beach. In the evening, I walked Pedro.

    Sometimes I'd walk the strip half a dozen times before choosing. The obvious hardcore girls were easy to avoid, but I would talk with plenty of girls as I made my way down the strip. I'd get to know them a little, remember what they said, and then I'd move on. A small percentage didn't like me not pulling the trigger right then and there. But, by the second or third time I came back around the strip, they remembered me, and would quickly wave me down, or grab my arm. No kidding, at one point, I had two girls arguing over who was going to go with me. The main thing I tried to do when speaking with them one on one is establish an immediate rapport by asking a question of what they liked, music, hobbies, anything. Then, I would give them the "me too" line, even if it wasn't true. When you chameleon yourself like that, the girls remember it. It's actually a sales technique. By the time I finally chose a girl, she would hang onto my arm as if she had won something. It was very psychological. I think that was a big contributing factor of why they gave good service.

    A quick story: One girl I met on the strip was named Cassandra. She was 23 yrs, and a parda mix (West African, Spaniard, and Taino indigenous). She was down a ways, away from the center of things just sitting on a set of steps by herself. Instead of standing over her, and propositioning, I sat down next to her on the same step, and cracked a joke. I made her laugh, asked her where she was from, gave her a compliment, made small talk, ect. When I felt the time was right, I offered her 1500 pesos for an hour. She nodded with a smile. That girl was the best of the entire trip. She rode me so well, I'm convinced she could've won a bucking bronco competition. She ended up staying for an hour and a half, and didn't ask for more. We chatted, took a bunch of photos, and when it came time for her to go, I gave her a bottle of water, told her to be careful out there, and good luck. She threw her arms around me, and thanked me for caring.

    It's a case of a little bit goes a long way. Without getting into details, I have experience on what it's like to be on the proverbial other side of the tracks. Actually treat them like people, and it's amazing what you'll get in return. To answer your questions: I only stuck to short time and paid once. I would say that all my experiences were in line of a GFE as in there was no rushing, the girls really got into it, and it didn't feel like a transaction. I was with a Haitian girl who became a little too attached, but that's another story. I'm not sure what you mean by my record. Sorry for the long post, but maybe it'll help some folks out.

  5. #33177

    The Message

    Quote Originally Posted by MrGogo  [View Original Post]
    Latin women like to be led, if it's dancing, hanging out, or in the bedroom. They like a Latin dude that is not weak. Otherwise they will run all over you till you say no. I believe in fair play but being unpredictable and spontaneous has always worked for me. Sometimes I say no when I want to say yes just to control the narrative. I believe you work with them in their lane and not bring them to your lane.

    Ex: Dominican girls drink presidente when it's their money but want Corona when it's your money. I tell them it's presidente or nothing and they humbly submit. Some here will say it's only 150 peso difference but it's not their lane. Why should I talk stocks and Bitcoin with these girls when all they know is salon, nails, manicure and Pico polo? I work within their lane.

    I don't buy girls lobster and fancy steak, I might buy her beans, rice, and chicken plus occasionally a fish but these are not girls walking around selling pussy on the beach or in the street. I don't allow street girls to sit with me unless invited, no propping your ass down uninvited to my table.

    I understand weekend warriors have limited time and unlimited money so I let them do it their way. If buying a street girl a meal makes you happy and maybe the girl will like you more in your mind, go for it. As I said I've changed with the times. I let a guy live his fantasy and pay accordingly but when I see a girl running her hustle on him I tend to stay in my lane and let her get in his.
    Every new person venturing to DR for the first time should read Gogo post first. I've notice 3 major successful traits within every O. G. Monger that posted in here that lives in DR or comes there frequently.

    1. You lead and they follow. I. e. Its your way or the highway. Women down there only respect strength, so you lead the way at all times. As Oakie and some of the rest of monger gents have shown you thru their post you can be kind etc towards the ladies BUT also have a back bone to say no to their face and be willing to drop there ass and move on if she trys to acts up or play games.

    2. Keep it simple. Gogo said it best. Understand, learn the culture and work within there lane. I don't need to have convo about stock and bonds with them. But she knows how to cook, clean and make sure your ass is taken care of from head to toe. From having your daily vitamins and blood pressure meds ready for you to take on a daily basis down to fixing your drunk ass some Sancocho after a night of partying to cure that pounding headache of yours, let her do what she do best.

    3. Those that listen and take sound advice from folks that live and operate in DR on a daily basis. This should be No. 1 trait above all else. You're NOT in Kansas anymore so its a damn shame to not take the time and listen to expats that's consistently avoided DR pitfalls for years / decades. Those that listen to sound advice are the ones that avoid ALOT of unnecessary drama. Those that stay stuck on stupid or do it solely their way because they been successful in 30 other countries and blah blah blah tend to get taken for 250 US dollars for 30 mins of pleasure, get in constant fights with the girls or worst yet wind up in a dominican jail trying to figure how are they going to eat tomorrow.

    If a man can incorporate just these 3 vital traits when going down to DR hes going to win overall majority of the time with setbacks being little to none. Those who can't I advise you to stay the fuck out of DR because this island will overpower you with its onslaught of carribean madness where logic and sanity is thrown out the window and swallow your ass hole.

    And often time those that don't have a good time in DR and constantly complain lack these 3 traits.

  6. #33176

    Bailies is part of the scene

    I have been going to Sosua for years and am so grateful Bailees is there. The food is decent and for early action it is the only game in town. The quality of the girls there is not bad. There is a constant churn so you can see 30 girls or more girls with in a short time. The girls no that guys are there so they post up for us. If I was an expat maybe I would not need Sosua but for us sex starved bros it is a God send. Bailees is a key element in making Sosua work for us mongers.

    Quote Originally Posted by GrownMan1  [View Original Post]
    Wow really my man? I don't disagree with your choice to disagree. But I think his generalization of chicas in Bailey holds weight.

    He's basing his opinion from living there, observing the culture, meeting the people, knowing the area, and putting you up on game. I agree with his View. I think it's a correct generalization.

    I'm familiar with a few of them and they mostly flock together. I'm also a little familiar with the ones known to provide good service. They don't hang out at the union hall. They have work to do or you can catch them in the Western Union line.

    Whatever your doing I applaud you. You're obviously doing something right and we all can learn from it. How often do they except whatever you offer? Would you say they give you the GFE experience? What's your record?

  7. #33175
    Quote Originally Posted by TripleDarknes  [View Original Post]

    THE PRICE IS WHATEVER THEY FEEL IT SHOULD BE. (I'm not yelling I just couldn't bold the text).
    The price is what the MARKet will bear.

    The value is all in the guys head.

    Some guys associate price with quality, some want to impress others, some want value, some have no time to search, guys who want to fool themselves it wasn't about money etc. Etc. Etc.

  8. #33174
    Quote Originally Posted by IronQuinn  [View Original Post]
    I have to disagree with the above statement. Now, before some regulars chime in about newbies not knowing how it used to be, hold on. It doesn't take a genius to know what good service it. Never once did I ask "how much". I enjoyed walking the streets, .
    Wow really my man? I don't disagree with your choice to disagree. But I think his generalization of chicas in Bailey holds weight.

    He's basing his opinion from living there, observing the culture, meeting the people, knowing the area, and putting you up on game. I agree with his View. I think it's a correct generalization.

    I'm familiar with a few of them and they mostly flock together. I'm also a little familiar with the ones known to provide good service. They don't hang out at the union hall. They have work to do or you can catch them in the Western Union line.

    Whatever your doing I applaud you. You're obviously doing something right and we all can learn from it. How often do they except whatever you offer? Would you say they give you the GFE experience? What's your record?

  9. #33173
    Quote Originally Posted by NeilGeorge  [View Original Post]
    Sorry to let you judge what my happy medium may be. What is "appropriate" a "gift" and "treatment like a human being" "nothing wrong in".

    I am the Captain of my own ship. And Mr. Happy makes the offers. Not you.
    You are wrong sir. I am the captain of your ship, you are to do as I say. LOL.

  10. #33172
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    There is a happy medium where you gift them an appropriate amount and treat them like human beings, nothing wrong in treating them to an occasional meal.
    Sorry to let you judge what my happy medium may be. What is "appropriate" a "gift" and "treatment like a human being" "nothing wrong in".

    I am the Captain of my own ship. And Mr. Happy makes the offers. Not you.

  11. #33171

    Machismo is alive

    Latin women like to be led, if it's dancing, hanging out, or in the bedroom. They like a Latin dude that is not weak. Otherwise they will run all over you till you say no. I believe in fair play but being unpredictable and spontaneous has always worked for me. Sometimes I say no when I want to say yes just to control the narrative. I believe you work with them in their lane and not bring them to your lane.

    Ex: Dominican girls drink presidente when it's their money but want Corona when it's your money. I tell them it's presidente or nothing and they humbly submit. Some here will say it's only 150 peso difference but it's not their lane. Why should I talk stocks and Bitcoin with these girls when all they know is salon, nails, manicure and Pico polo? I work within their lane.

    I don't buy girls lobster and fancy steak, I might buy her beans, rice, and chicken plus occasionally a fish but these are not girls walking around selling pussy on the beach or in the street. I don't allow street girls to sit with me unless invited, no propping your ass down uninvited to my table.

    I understand weekend warriors have limited time and unlimited money so I let them do it their way. If buying a street girl a meal makes you happy and maybe the girl will like you more in your mind, go for it. As I said I've changed with the times. I let a guy live his fantasy and pay accordingly but when I see a girl running her hustle on him I tend to stay in my lane and let her get in his.

  12. #33170
    Ever wonder why you blokes out there can't go to South Beach or any similar place in the US and pick up babes? Its because of American men NOT the women. American men are the worst, they grovel behind women, treat them like gold and throw money behind them. No wonder the women fancy themselves the way they do.

    Latin American men, for example, are different, first of all they do not have the financial resources of American men and also they have a different attitude to women, for them they are the boss and ensure that the women know this. As a result the women are more subservient and treat the men better.

    I am not saying to dime and nickel women and treat them poorly. There is a happy medium where you gift them an appropriate amount and treat them like human beings, nothing wrong in treating them to an occasional meal.

  13. #33169
    Quote Originally Posted by TripleDarknes  [View Original Post]
    I was with you except when you said playing "pimp daddy" to "poor girls" and sharing meals achieves mutual respect. Like I said I spent a year on the Island I "played pimp daddy" to a chica who drove an SUV and had a salon she literally sold herself only to get up the money for the salon and through a referral during COVID. Again whatever rate you agree on if fine, But if a chcia charged you 1000 USD you'd probably sound like Mr. E complaining how no third world hoe is worth that. Just like a monger in Vegas will tell you that he's happy to pay 1000 bucks a night for "GFE" with a stripper.

    You can share meals with a chica but that doesn't mean she respects you. The difference, the only difference between a third world hoe and an American hoe is that at least the third world hoe respects the money whether it's 1000 2000 3000 4000 or 10,000 pesos the Dominican chica is willing to be nice and smile at you to get the pesos, she's willing to fuck first and take the money on the back end, hang out, laugh at corny jokes that she doesn't understand and treat you how you want to be treated but other than that she wouldn't shit on you if she had explosive diarrhea and you were on fire.

    Again no argument from me what you pay shit I'd love to have a woman here where I can with a Dominicana's atittude instead of the entitled "I'll think about it" attitude where there's a 50 50 chance that a chick will come over for a weeks salary for an hour's worth of work. I love the DR.

    Hope this Helps.

    Trips.
    Good posts, Trip.

    If you want to buy pussy, Sosua is a good place.

    If you think you can buy "respect" forget it!

    That can't be bought from a chica anywhere in the World. Respect can only be earned!

    If you want to buy pussy, Sosua is a good place.

    If you think you can buy "respect" forget it! That can't be BOUGHT, it can only be earned!

    I keep my regular on a reasonable, but tight budget.

    A couple years ago I had to go to the Sosua emergency clinic (otherwise known as la Carneceria) in the middle of the night, with severe plumbing problems. Couple of hours later, she shows up. Jungle telegraph I guess.

    Takes charge, she's good at that. Talks and translates with the doctors. I'm in there 3 days doing all the tests, and she never leaves my side, even sleeps in my small hospital bed while I'm hooked up to every tube stuck in every orifice I have. The verdict. Necessary operation. She say's no! It's a urinary infection. No operation in Sosua, meanwhile they got my credit card and it's going up fast.

    She says if necessary he goes to Canada for operation. In spite of the pain, I'm actually laughing at all this shit. She finally signs me outa there with a bunch of anti-biotics and pain killer prescriptions. A week later everything clears up. 2 years now and never felt better.

    Then:

    While I was away this summer, she went quiet for a couple days, no "love you" texts.

    Then I got a suspicious call from a dude in SD. He say your chica en hospital and nececita dinero. Oh fuck, here we go, LOL. I say who the fuck are you, he say familia en SD. I say let me talk to her or tell her to text me. She calls, doesn't sound good, tells me about it.

    I cut to the chase, cuanta cuesta? (Here we go, the big hit! LOL).

    She says she's feeling better, and she could use 2000 pesos for prescriptions, and bus fare home for her and her amiga, from SD to PP.

    Respect? Hell yes!

    My well healed BUDDY who knows her, calls me a cheap be. The. , but I tell him I don't want to "spoil the market" for the other mongers, LOL.

    So I got no time for guys who stereotype DR chicas (or anybody else, for that matter).

    With that attitude, they will have nothing but bad experiences, and sad rip off stories to tell.

  14. #33168
    Quote Originally Posted by IronQuinn  [View Original Post]
    Earlier this year when I began reading this board for my first trip, I always thought your posts were very informative. Sure, I'd be called a newbie as far as Sosua goes, compared to regulars, but after being there, I have to disagree with the above statement. Now, before some regulars chime in about newbies not knowing how it used to be, hold on. It doesn't take a genius to know what good service it. I already heard it from a regular when I was there. He was a good guy, but busting my balls for only going after street girls, saying they're low quality. Then, he showed me a photo on his phone of one of "his" girls, telling me, that's quality. I saw nothing special about her, and said I wouldn't pay a nickel for her. I think I hurt the poor guy's feelings. The point is, it depends on your style. I picked entirely from the street and beach while I was there, and had great girls, never rushed, and all stayed to chat for a while afterward without asking for ridiculous amounts of 3,000+ pesos. I simply told them what I would pay and that was that. Never once did I ask "how much". I enjoyed walking the streets, messing with the girls every step of the way. It was a good time, a lot of joking and laughing. I'm sure to the regulars, these street girls have a stigma, that's why they stay away. I agree there are hardcore dirtball girls on the strip, but they're easy to spot and avoid. For future newbies reading that above statement, they might get discouraged. When in reality you don't necessarily need a network or to have connections, you just need to have common sense in your selections.
    Actually, I totally agree with you.

    I'm a "to each his own" believer.

    Some mongers like the low mileage less experienced chicas, while others like the totally wild and crazy ones, who know all the moves, and how to satisfy a guy.

    Especially if he like my buddy, stuck in a marriage back home with a frigid WG, who haven't slept together for 20 years. A blow job is something he only sees on online porn sites.

    It's all good!

  15. #33167
    Quote Originally Posted by OldKool  [View Original Post]
    For us in and out guys your info is useless. *You are satisfied going to low budget casas and playing pimp daddy to *poor local girls who have the misfortune of crossing your path. Most guys here may come once or twice a year. Consequently the price the girls charge is no big deal. This forum is primarily about P4 P. Sosua provides great access to Dominican girls. You have the made the point that Sosua is not for you and that is cool. Why you contitue to down a place you do not frequent blows my mine. No one on forum wants to hear about your free pussy. I am happy paying for what I want and I am ejoying getting it. I Continue to share meals with chicas and find it enjoyable and a way to achieve mutual respect.
    I was with you except when you said playing "pimp daddy" to "poor girls" and sharing meals achieves mutual respect. Like I said I spent a year on the Island I "played pimp daddy" to a chica who drove an SUV and had a salon she literally sold herself only to get up the money for the salon and through a referral during COVID. Again whatever rate you agree on if fine, But if a chcia charged you 1000 USD you'd probably sound like Mr. E complaining how no third world hoe is worth that. Just like a monger in Vegas will tell you that he's happy to pay 1000 bucks a night for "GFE" with a stripper.

    You can share meals with a chica but that doesn't mean she respects you. The difference, the only difference between a third world hoe and an American hoe is that at least the third world hoe respects the money whether it's 1000 2000 3000 4000 or 10,000 pesos the Dominican chica is willing to be nice and smile at you to get the pesos, she's willing to fuck first and take the money on the back end, hang out, laugh at corny jokes that she doesn't understand and treat you how you want to be treated but other than that she wouldn't shit on you if she had explosive diarrhea and you were on fire.

    Again no argument from me what you pay shit I'd love to have a woman here where I can with a Dominicana's atittude instead of the entitled "I'll think about it" attitude where there's a 50 50 chance that a chick will come over for a weeks salary for an hour's worth of work. I love the DR.

    Hope this Helps.

    Trips.

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