Stupid shit in Medellin

[JustTK]

You epitomize the saying "figures don't lie, but liars figure". With your fuzzy logic, having more confirmed cases is making progress. I will counter that the reason for the decrease in ratio of deaths to cases is because of medical advancements in treatments and weakening of the virus variants.

One cannot even label it as cherry picking, bcos the evidence he presented does not even support his case. Q estupido! As you say, there are so many variables that he just disregards that his claim has more holes than a slice of Gouda. All the arguments you presented, plus greater immunity in the public at large, changes in the process of reporting of cases, changes in attitudes to report, variations in excess deaths. Really, any stat based on case numbers is just so flimsy as to be laughable.

[Paulie97]

SawZonaNorte made another good point, that it's impossible to know how many cases and deaths we would have seen thus far without mitigation measures and the many Americans who have chosen to comply and use masks and social distance. Given what we know about how the disease is spread, plus laboratory studies showing the efficacy of masks, the numbers would surely be much higher. So there's another clear point from SawZonaNorte that Funluvr, in his eagerness to preserve his worldview, chose to ignore.

[Paulie97]

You epitomize the saying "figures don't lie, but liars figure". With your fuzzy logic, having more confirmed cases is making progress. I will counter that the reason for the decrease in ratio of deaths to cases is because of medical advancements in treatments and weakening of the virus variants. If the number of cases had stayed the same or decreased, look at how many fewer deaths we would have had this year. In one respect, having more cases is a good thing because that means more people are becoming immune. But you are probably of the mindset that the only immunization is the shot.

The liar and the fuzzy one here is you, as from the beginning you've opposed all Covid mitigation measures. You've also claimed without proof that US hospitals were cooking Covid numbers to rip off Medicare, implying it's all a hoax. In a word you've bought the whole right wing nut narrative each step of the way and have the t-shirt to prove it.

The poster's logic was clear, as Elvis attempted to downplay the usefulness of mitigation measures by noting the increase in USA Covid deaths in 2021 over 2020. It was then shown that case numbers have also increased. Other variables were indicated, including the fact that the pandemic didn't get going until late March of 2020, plus there has been far more mobility among the population in 2021. As to his final point, red states lead the way in confirmed cases per 100 K population since the start of the pandemic, so you and your other Trump buttboys with your lack of cooperation are a big part of the problem.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...cans-by-state/

Masks and social distancing work, as does avoiding indoor environments with crowds of people not wearing masks. For after all, it's a respiratory disease passed through aerosols. Duh. Why do you insist on making a fool of yourself avoiding the obvious?

[Fun Luvr]

Good job at cherry-picking meaningless data. You wouldn't be any further off if you cited the USA having had more Covid deaths than has Barbados, as being truly indicative of anything.

You fail to add the following:

USA 2020: approximately 346,687 Covid deaths.

USA 2021 through Nov 26: approximately 439,700 covid deaths.

USA 2020: approximately 20,037,736 confirmed cases.

USA 2021 through Nov. 26: approximately 28,148,237 confirmed cases (which is 1. 40476 times as many cases as there were in 2020).

So now, if you have any common sense, you multiply 1. 40476 by the number of last year's deaths.

Only then can you fairly compare what is this year's 439,700 YTD deaths to the new number, which is 487,012. ...

You epitomize the saying "figures don't lie, but liars figure". With your fuzzy logic, having more confirmed cases is making progress. I will counter that the reason for the decrease in ratio of deaths to cases is because of medical advancements in treatments and weakening of the virus variants. If the number of cases had stayed the same or decreased, look at how many fewer deaths we would have had this year. In one respect, having more cases is a good thing because that means more people are becoming immune. But you are probably of the mindset that the only immunization is the shot.

[Elvis 2008]

You are mis-stating the data about Israel "a few weeks ago" that was so absurdly misunderstood by those many who can't understand simple math.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/latest-on-c...-study/2352018

Israel recorded the highest number of coronavirus cases per capita over the past week, according to data published Tuesday by Oxford University Press. The country overtook Montenegro and Georgia with an average of 1,013 new daily cases per million people over a week, figures by Our World in Data showed.

What the hell does math have to do with that?

You fail to add the following:

USA 2020: approximately 346,687 Covid deaths.

USA 2021 through Nov 26: approximately 439,700 covid deaths.

USA 2020: approximately 20,037,736 confirmed cases.

USA 2021 through Nov. 26: approximately 28,148,237 confirmed cases (which is 1. 40476 times as many cases as there were in 2020)..

I am not quite sure what your point is. It looks to me like you are a Democratic douche trying to prove me wrong. The irony is your presentation of the data supports the point that I was trying to make namely that vaccines are not that effective. If the vaccine worked, cases and deaths in 2021 should have been down not up.

At the end of the big, multi-faceted equation, the only clear conclusion is that the stupid people will never understand. (which plagues society today much as it has since the beginning of time).

I think what you are trying to say is that if not for "the stupid people" which I guess means Republicans and their noncompliance the pandemic would be over by now.

Thing is that if you are doing forecasting models and do not account for "stupid people" or noncompliance, you yourself are stupid.

So you might want to turn down that MSNBC, get the Washington Post from your face, and try something different like you know writing coherent sentences that actually have a point.

[MarquisdeSade1]

I responded to the Euro twerp for about six months, which was generous of me given that he only spins fallacies and has no ability to engage in genuine debate. I can say the same for Elvis, thus I also for the most part stopped bothering with his posts. But looks like I certainly kicked the beehive and good, as the gang is all here, JustTK, Marquis de Twat, Elvis, Shoo Swede, but where is Pedro Morales? The tool that talks about Big Mac eaters in the states even though Europe is littered with Mickey DS franchises.

But yea Covid is a respiratory illness passed through aerosols thus masks and social distancing hinder the spread, duh. As does staying out of crowded indoors environments full of maskless people, duh. Is amazing all the gymnastics right wing nut media will go through to try and obfuscate these obvious but inconvenient facts. Hey no one is enjoying this pandemic, but do like most of the rest of us, grow a pair and accept it for what it is.

BTW has anyone met any of these guys on the ground in Medellin? I speak of JustTK, Marquis de Twat, Elvis, Shoo Bree or Pedro? De Twat has been caught in some lies so we know he's never been to Colombia. As to the rest, who knows? There's plenty enough information posted in ISG for someone to use to pretend they have been to some of these countries.

https://amgreatness.com/2021/10/26/t...ing-they-hate/

Stop projecting, I don't lie, lying is for sick losers.

Ala Paulie IMing me to avoid MDE so I don't get kidnapped for ransom or held indefinitely to do daily ATM withdrawals.

You said I was caught in lies? Well you're a lying POS because I don't lie.

You "brag" to be a door to door grifter conning senior citizens in veteran communities of their last extra pennnies.

You are scum of the earth and you try to pull down others, sorry dirtbag.

You're cover has been blown, you are a criminal and I'm guessing an Ex-con.

[ShooBree]

I responded to the Euro twerp for about six months, which was generous of me given that he only spins fallacies and has no ability to engage in genuine debate. I can say the same for Elvis, thus I also for the most part stopped bothering with his posts. But looks like I certainly kicked the beehive and good, as the gang is all here, JustTK, Marquis de Twat, Elvis, Shoo Swede, but where is Pedro Morales? The tool that talks about Big Mac eaters in the states even though Europe is littered with Mickey DS franchises.

But yea Covid is a respiratory illness passed through aerosols thus masks and social distancing hinder the spread, duh. As does staying out of crowded indoors environments full of maskless people, duh. Is amazing all the gymnastics right wing nut media will go through to try and obfuscate these obvious but inconvenient facts. Hey no one is enjoying this pandemic, but do like most of the rest of us, grow a pair and accept it for what it is.

BTW has anyone met any of these guys on the ground in Medellin? I speak of JustTK, Marquis de Twat, Elvis, Shoo Bree or Pedro? De Twat has been caught in some lies so we know he's never been to Colombia. As to the rest, who knows? There's plenty enough information posted in ISG for someone to use to pretend they have been to some of these countries.

We all know that Paulie is a compulsive liar and fantasist. He will ignore all the facts presented against his fictitious lies since hes an fact resistant egomaniac and then pretend as if he wasn't disproved for the millionth time.

We all know that Paulie is still hiding in the basement, terrified of Covid-19. He's a loser that never travelled anywhere and even less contributed with anything of value to this forum.

[Paulie97]

You are mis-stating the data about Israel "a few weeks ago" that was so absurdly misunderstood by those many who can't understand simple math.

Good job at cherry-picking meaningless data. You wouldn't be any further off if you cited the USA having had more Covid deaths than has Barbados, as being truly indicative of anything.

You fail to add the following:

USA 2020: approximately 346,687 Covid deaths.

USA 2021 through Nov 26: approximately 439,700 covid deaths.

USA 2020: approximately 20,037,736 confirmed cases.

USA 2021 through Nov. 26: approximately 28,148,237 confirmed cases (which is 1. 40476 times as many cases as there were in 2020)...

You corrected a series of non-sequiturs from the logical fallacy specialist, Elvis, who spends his days here twisting himself in knots. He's a mediocre tool of right wing nut propaganda and doesn't even know it.

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/...s/Non-Sequitur

As to your final point, here it is.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...cans-by-state/

[Paulie97]

Hey Shoe Breezey. You really seem to have a man-crush on Paulie. In your rant you used his name 16 times (unless I missed some others). WoW! You might consider moving on. I don't think he's all that interested.

But I suspect that Elvis and Marquis may be interested.

Oh and as to your last screech of a comment. I've read many posts from Paulie on Medellin and the state of the hobby here. Oddly enough I've never read anything from you. Can you explain that? Have you ever been to Medellin? Can you find it on a map? Can you afford to fly over here?

You know, maybe you should just stick with the Germany FKK Club - Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus! section. You seem to be winning the contest for biggest jerk over there.

I responded to the Euro twerp for about six months, which was generous of me given that he only spins fallacies and has no ability to engage in genuine debate. I can say the same for Elvis, thus I also for the most part stopped bothering with his posts. But looks like I certainly kicked the beehive and good, as the gang is all here, JustTK, Marquis de Twat, Elvis, Shoo Swede, but where is Pedro Morales? The tool that talks about Big Mac eaters in the states even though Europe is littered with Mickey DS franchises.

But yea Covid is a respiratory illness passed through aerosols thus masks and social distancing hinder the spread, duh. As does staying out of crowded indoors environments full of maskless people, duh. Is amazing all the gymnastics right wing nut media will go through to try and obfuscate these obvious but inconvenient facts. Hey no one is enjoying this pandemic, but do like most of the rest of us, grow a pair and accept it for what it is.

BTW has anyone met any of these guys on the ground in Medellin? I speak of JustTK, Marquis de Twat, Elvis, Shoo Bree or Pedro? De Twat has been caught in some lies so we know he's never been to Colombia. As to the rest, who knows? There's plenty enough information posted in ISG for someone to use to pretend they have been to some of these countries.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Hillary Clinton is one of the smartest people that ever ran for President of the US. So why did she lose? She is unattractive and extremely unlikeable. In American politics smarts can not overcome being generally unattractive and unlikeable.

Does Villany the vagina have a real vagina or a backdoor substitute?

What kind of pus oozing feminist would write on a hooker board that Hillary is the sooper smartest ever ever LMAO are you fucking kidding me.

He lost because he's dumb, like you.

He had the global media at her back 24/7 attacking our Lord and Savior and still lost.

He lost to the most unpopular opponent ever because he's a low IQ mental midget.

Hes never had a real job, he married a redneck from the south, because nobody from Chicago would ever want him.

Does Hillary have XY or XX?

Lets see Bubba got him a job at the Rose Law Firm where he defended a child molester, is that why you admire Hillary?

Other than that, that was just another ghost payroll gig.

Sen from NY LOL look who they have now that low IQ Kirsten G from cow shit to dog shit.

Sec of State under the other guy she lost to Barry Hussein ROTFLMFAO!

[ShooBree]

Hey Shoe Breezey. You really seem to have a man-crush on Paulie. In your rant you used his name 16 times (unless I missed some others). WoW! You might consider moving on. I don't think he's all that interested.

But I suspect that Elvis and Marquis may be interested.

Oh and as to your last screech of a comment. I've read many posts from Paulie on Medellin and the state of the hobby here. Oddly enough I've never read anything from you. Can you explain that? Have you ever been to Medellin? Can you find it on a map? Can you afford to fly over here?

You know, maybe you should just stick with the Germany FKK Club - Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus! section. You seem to be winning the contest for biggest jerk over there.

Naawww, its so cute to see you trying to defend your boyfriend, Paulie the creepy stalker.

I like that you skipped doing your failed arguments and instead jumped right to the lying and personal attacks. Surely both you and Paulie are both stalkers and mentally challenged, but somehow you manages to be even dumber than him. Its kinda impressive.

If you're too lazy and / or stupid to find my posts you're only making a fool out of yourself.

No offense to Colombia, been there twice, but its a lowbudget place which brings too many trashy USAns. There are better places to go to, or what do you think of Brazil and the UAE? More to see and do, and most importantly less US trash. I've also just recently discovered this lowkey, USAn free mongering destination. Its perfect May to October, but you probably can't even afford the flight to get there.

I'm still waiting for you to share the source of how "Those higher paying jobs that you are crowing about are largely with American companies". You really know how to make yourself look stupid.

Around 100% of your posts consists of questions, lies, personal attacks and irrelevant blablabla.

You're an pathetic old geezer who belongs in a nursing home. Or insane asylum.

[SawZonaNorte]

Because it has already been proven false. Israel was the most vaccinated country on earth a few weeks ago and had higher cases per capita than anyone.

You are mis-stating the data about Israel "a few weeks ago" that was so absurdly misunderstood by those many who can't understand simple math.

But here is the problem. https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2021...ass-2020-total.

The number of COVID-19 deaths recorded so far in 2021 has surpassed the total for 2020, according to the latest data from Johns Hopkins University.

Overall, more than 771,000 COVID-19 deaths have been reported in the USA During the pandemic. About 385,000 were reported in 2020, according to CDC data, and more than 386,000 have been reported this year.

Want to explain that?

Good job at cherry-picking meaningless data. You wouldn't be any further off if you cited the USA having had more Covid deaths than has Barbados, as being truly indicative of anything.

You fail to add the following:

USA 2020: approximately 346,687 Covid deaths.

USA 2021 through Nov 26: approximately 439,700 covid deaths.

USA 2020: approximately 20,037,736 confirmed cases.

USA 2021 through Nov. 26: approximately 28,148,237 confirmed cases (which is 1. 40476 times as many cases as there were in 2020).

So now, if you have any common sense, you multiply 1. 40476 by the number of last year's deaths.

Only then can you fairly compare what is this year's 439,700 YTD deaths to the new number, which is 487,012.

Then magnify it all by so much more of the world having been so much more immobilized during Covid times in 2020 than has been the case in 2021. (it is impossible to fully represent the fact that a far higher percentage of the stupid people are the ones being so affected {and Infected} in 2021 than was the case in 2020).

Say nothing of the extremely obvious snowball effect where there were almost zero USA Covid deaths for the first 2 months of 2020, while 2021 has already had 11 solid months of widespread Covid, and yet, with vaccines and masks, the percentages are markedly better in 2021 than they were in 2020.

Furthermore, the up-to-the-day 28-day-moving-averages of Covid deaths are trending downward in the USA even as the newsmedia trumpets all of the talk about the brand new, scary variant from South Africa.

Not to mention that you have no way to fairly compare the difference between Covid having been allowed to rampage the USA fully unchecked (sans masks or vaccines) to what we have now, which is approximately the following:

The stupid people shunning all forms of Covid defense and gathering willy-nilly amongst themselves in pre-Covid stupid form, while at the same time a giant percentage of the rest of the population is wearing masks, and cutting way back on human contact, particularly that which is unnecessary.

One need only sort the USA States by % of Covid infections to clearly understand this statistical reality. Then it might become more clear if you cross-reference that list to the typical Presidential election map.

At the end of the big, multi-faceted equation, the only clear conclusion is that the stupid people will never understand. (which plagues society today much as it has since the beginning of time).

[MarquisdeSade1]

This is why the USA is done. Our forefathers knew we were done once people could vote themselves money..

I love your posts and hate to disagree, but.

What about when turds like GW Bush sent $300 tax rebates to the poor.

And $10 million to turds like Cheney the Kochs Bozo et al?

[Villainy]

Paulie .......... Paulie......, Paulie......, Paulie......., Paulie......., Paulie......., is at it again..[/B]

Hey Shoe Breezey. You really seem to have a man-crush on Paulie. In your rant you used his name 16 times (unless I missed some others). WoW! You might consider moving on. I don't think he's all that interested.

But I suspect that Elvis and Marquis may be interested.

Oh and as to your last screech of a comment. I've read many posts from Paulie on Medellin and the state of the hobby here. Oddly enough I've never read anything from you. Can you explain that? Have you ever been to Medellin? Can you find it on a map? Can you afford to fly over here?

You know, maybe you should just stick with the Germany FKK Club - Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus! section. You seem to be winning the contest for biggest jerk over there.

[Elvis 2008]

Paulie the liar, Paulie the deranged weirdo, Paulie the mad stalker, Paulie the basement dweller, Paulie the fact resistent retard, is at it again.

Paulie even admits in his own post that I'm right, lockdowns do not work. Hes just too stupid and confused to understand that its irrelevant if it works in theory if it doesn't work in the real world. We have stats on it, the lockdowns failed.

What Paulie fails to understand is that I'm talking about what's actually happening, while he goes on and on with his "could: s" and "if: s". Sorry, but I don't give a fuck about what works in Paulies irrelevant fantasies.

What's needed is an approach based on precision and an understanding of the people's mentality.

The lockdowns failed to do so, it caused more harm than good. The lockdowns only satisfied the scared (aka Paulie) and the need for the incompetent politicians to look like they were doing something.

The actions were based on fear, populism and incompetence.

People don't need laws to adjust their behaviour and they will easily break the laws if they don't agree with them. Just look at the legalization of marijuana or how many that are breaking the speed-limits.

Too bad Paulie the retarded can't read, otherwise he would have seen that I compared Peru with Brazil and Colombia, not Sweden. Another lie from Paulie the deranged weirdo..

That is an epic post, SB. Hopefully, Paulie crawls back into his hole and does not climb back out. Thing is the Democratic douches were upset I was not playing with them in the American politics forum, so they had to come over here and stir up shit. The American Politics form resembled the talking heads on MSNBC.

As you said the lockdowns do not work, and I am reading the book "What really happened in Wuhan" and guess who said travel bans do not work? Fauci, yes Lord Fauci.

You are right about the racism part too. Thing about the Democratic douches is they only criticize white people which means they are the biggest racists of all. Hence, all the hatred for Sweden and the Republicans but China? Nah, attacking them is racist. So the CCP, the fuckers who are the most guilty party of all, get a complete pass from the Democratic douches.

I think it really is time we start looking at cutting the checks going out to these douches. They are so fucking bored they have to come onto a hooker board and stir up shit. Have you seen any Republican retards come here and start stirring up shit about abortion or Jesus?

I actually do not like discussing this, but let's be real. When it came to mongering, there is no question that Trump had a much more friendly travel policy than Biden but if you are a Democrat, you are so fucked in the head you cannot even say it let alone think it. That is how fucking deranged these people are.