Montreal

[Hacsek]

That's what I trying to say. Some escorts are also friends with their clients. It's kind of like a sugar baby escort. The client and the escort have sex, friendship, and business relationship.

Like one girl in my apartment in Montreal stayed all night drinking and then went home the next day because she didn't want to drive her car with beer. She only took the money for one hour. There was no sex. We had been good friends for months before this happened.

I know some of you see prices on the website and you think they are written in stone and you lose your flexibility to consider other ideas.

But just think about it if you go out for four hours with a sugar baby do you really think you're going to pay her 1500 cad? Man that must be one lousy date. If she takes so much from you just for four hours.

When you become friends with the escort you will uncover completely different pricing. She will give you these rates herself. Each escort usually has two or three clients that are also her friends.

A lot of men don't even have friends. And can't hold an hour-long conversation with an escort.

Sex is actually more fun when the woman is your friend.

All of what you say is true.

None of that however happens on a first visit to a new country / city.

Pretty lady was fiction and a movie LOL.

It takes a long process and chemistry plus a lot of trust on both sides to have a relationship like that and a willingness on both sides.

Situations like that are rare and like you say maybe each SP might have a couple of favoured clients that they may extend this to, but generally they are in it to make money not to be your friend with benefits.

[HarvestBoi]

That's $350/ HR or $280/ HR USD. At the top end of Indy rates in MTL. Care to say who it was? I did a 4 hour date like that with Heaven but just paid Euphoria's rate, so it was a bit under grand. But still that is a quarter of what I would pay in the states. The only Indy I might consider doing that with is Katrina Vianna. Definitely in on my list when I get back.

Hey Montreal I saw a former escort with a website advertise 1400 for 4 hours. I'd like to say that in Montreal from personal experience you can get from an escort that is your friend for 1000 an entire week together. Spending time together and having fun, not sex marathon. Duh!

Someone paying 1400 for 4 hours probably doesn't understand European and north American economies.

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[Turgid]

Most escorts are not your friend LOL, it is a business and work for them and they expect to get paid for it.

$1400 for 4 hours is about the going rate for reputable escorts these days, and most will expect a paid dinner or lunch on top of that for 4 hrs.

Personally I don't do payed for dinners or lunches simply because I don't believe in paying someone to be my friend, if a woman sits across the dinner table from me then it will be because she wants to be there.

Sex, yes I am realistic, when you want a gorgeous woman half your age the easiest and surest way is to hire an escort.

Dinner, sorry I have a enough friends and relatives that I can enjoy a night out with I don't find anything that exiting about paying an escort to eat food and having a conversation which is not real with someone who's real name I don't even know. It is not about the money it just doesn't make sense to me.

In my home country I have lunch and dinner only with relatives, family and friends. However, I like company when I'm having a meal so when I am in a country where I have none of the above I sometimes invite a lady who I am banging or intend to bang to dine with me. Nothing expensive of course. We are all different in our likes and dislikes.

[Android2987]

Most escorts are not your friend LOL, it is a business and work for them and they expect to get paid for it.

That's what I trying to say. Some escorts are also friends with their clients. It's kind of like a sugar baby escort. The client and the escort have sex, friendship, and business relationship.

Like one girl in my apartment in Montreal stayed all night drinking and then went home the next day because she didn't want to drive her car with beer. She only took the money for one hour. There was no sex. We had been good friends for months before this happened.

I know some of you see prices on the website and you think they are written in stone and you lose your flexibility to consider other ideas.

But just think about it if you go out for four hours with a sugar baby do you really think you're going to pay her 1500 cad? Man that must be one lousy date. If she takes so much from you just for four hours.

When you become friends with the escort you will uncover completely different pricing. She will give you these rates herself. Each escort usually has two or three clients that are also her friends.

A lot of men don't even have friends. And can't hold an hour-long conversation with an escort.

Sex is actually more fun when the woman is your friend.

[Android2987]

This is how it works:

There is a specific type of customer that keeps going back to the same girl. So basically The girl and customer have a mutually exclusive relationship. So at 1st they have a business relationship. In the beginning most girls don't even want to talk (more than is considered normal) to the customer. Then after a lot of appointments there's more talk. After talking a lot of hours they also begin to spend more time together. And slowly they also create a friendship business relationship which is like a real friendship with gifts involved. It's more than just sex.

Usually this type of customer is the one that will give the girl the most money per month. So Once you start giving the girl lumps of money the money inevitably is worth more.

So if it's the right type of customer and right Type of girl. The girl will mention that she does sleepovers weekends entire weeks and also live in for a month. But she will not make these offers on the 1st date. It's only after the business friendship relationship has evolved.

Also the customer makes it easy for the girl to earn rewards. A lot of escorts are sore in the kitten from so much sex so obviously they don't want penetration sex to go on forever. So yeah sex friendship trust money spending time together and doing fun things like eating Getting high etc.

Also I've been told these customers are very rare and each girl may have less than 5.

Since these customers Pay the most and they are trustworthy they actually get more for their money's worth. And these customers always go back to the same girl. They will never know more than 2 or 3 escorts.

Also the customer needs to be considerate and good at building friendship. A lot of people today can't even get along with their sister or their coworkers. And relationship and communication skills are not taught nor are manners.

1 of these customers can get an evening for 400 or 500 Or 350 and that usually includes 2 or 3 hours. But also consider they do this 2 or 3 times a month. So the money goes further. And most of the time is not spent having sex.

Personally I recommend you not pay excessive rates for multiple hours another way to save money is just to book her out call for one hour. The hour before she Arrives to your house house start masturbating to some good porn then the next hour you spend it with her instead of with the porn. So you get one hour with porn and one hour with the girl and you only pay one out call hour.

See no need to break your bank account. LOL.

[Jalimon2]

Hey Montreal I saw a former escort with a website advertise 1400 for 4 hours. I'd like to say that in Montreal from personal experience you can get from an escort that is your friend for 1000 an entire week together. Spending time together and having fun, not sex marathon. Duh!

Someone paying 1400 for 4 hours probably doesn't understand European and north American economies.

Some guys are into that. Often it's because they have money coming out of their ears. I know some that book a girl the entire day simply to make sure to see them.

To be honest never heard of a girl accepting 1000 for an entire week.

[Hacsek]

Hey Montreal I saw a former escort with a website advertise 1400 for 4 hours. I'd like to say that in Montreal from personal experience you can get from an escort that is your friend for 1000 an entire week together. Spending time together and having fun, not sex marathon. Duh!

Someone paying 1400 for 4 hours probably doesn't understand European and north American economies.

Most escorts are not your friend LOL, it is a business and work for them and they expect to get paid for it.

$1400 for 4 hours is about the going rate for reputable escorts these days, and most will expect a paid dinner or lunch on top of that for 4 hrs.

Personally I don't do payed for dinners or lunches simply because I don't believe in paying someone to be my friend, if a woman sits across the dinner table from me then it will be because she wants to be there.

Sex, yes I am realistic, when you want a gorgeous woman half your age the easiest and surest way is to hire an escort.

Dinner, sorry I have a enough friends and relatives that I can enjoy a night out with I don't find anything that exiting about paying an escort to eat food and having a conversation which is not real with someone who's real name I don't even know. It is not about the money it just doesn't make sense to me.

[Android2987]

Hey Montreal I saw a former escort with a website advertise 1400 for 4 hours. I'd like to say that in Montreal from personal experience you can get from an escort that is your friend for 1000 an entire week together. Spending time together and having fun, not sex marathon. Duh!

Someone paying 1400 for 4 hours probably doesn't understand European and north American economies.

[WyattEarp]

I put an envelope with the money in it in plain sight at the beginning.

That is the standard for escorts in North America.

Yes, we are all usually dealing with known escorts and agencies who have established reputations for service.

Picking up a girl at a bar or club in a third world country is a totally different proposition.

[Mongerer88]

Not sure why you you mention it doesn't go well in North America. I've always paid at the end, In North America and outside as well, and no problem at all. It's more about your demeanor and how you behave that dictates the session, not when you pay. In Montreal I have not paid up front either, and have had great sessions. Paying upfront makes the whole experience even more transactional for me, yes I know it is a transaction after all, but let me at least enjoy for the 50 min the idea that this is not the case. Just my 2 cents, that there is no right or wrong way here, you pick your own.

I put an envelope with the money in it in plain sight at the beginning.

That is the standard for escorts in North America.

[EverythingBlue]

In person at the beginning of the session.

There are some ridiculous people on ISG, mostly from the third world, who think the payment should be at the end of the session.

That doesn't go over well in North America.

Not sure why you you mention it doesn't go well in North America. I've always paid at the end, In North America and outside as well, and no problem at all. It's more about your demeanor and how you behave that dictates the session, not when you pay. In Montreal I have not paid up front either, and have had great sessions. Paying upfront makes the whole experience even more transactional for me, yes I know it is a transaction after all, but let me at least enjoy for the 50 min the idea that this is not the case. Just my 2 cents, that there is no right or wrong way here, you pick your own.

[NapataJohn]

That does us all a favor. Many of us become black when we see that shit, and we cross that provider right off the list.

Same with providers who have too young, or too old, restrictions.

They can do as they please, of course. And so can we.

Of course their reactions may have been fashioned by previous experiences. So who knows?

[WyattEarp]

Sorry to put this forum into this position. I didn't intend for any political discussion here.

But, honestly, I prefer Senior Mongerer88's way of being direct and honest about how things around here.

The whole purpose of asking the question was to learn and understand how I can stay out of trouble and how can I enjoy the most given my limitations and my reality.

Even if the advice is an exaggeration, it still keeps me safe.

Not all the people have messaged have been biased.

Some were kind enough to say it upfront that they are not interested.

But, one of them was so offended that they actually added this to their profile next day.

Fair enough. You are probably better off being upfront with the providers.

There have been extensive discussions all over ISG and other forums about whether it's fair for escorts to be selective (yes, discriminate) in who they will see. I won't revisit those discussions. However, I would hope that if an escort agrees to meet up with you that she will treat you the same as anyone else.

[Mongerer88]

Sorry to put this forum into this position. I didn't intend for any political discussion here.

But, honestly, I prefer Senior Mongerer88's way of being direct and honest about how things around here.

The whole purpose of asking the question was to learn and understand how I can stay out of trouble and how can I enjoy the most given my limitations and my reality.

Even if the advice is an exaggeration, it still keeps me safe.

Not all the people have messaged have been biased.

Some were kind enough to say it upfront that they are not interested.

But, one of them was so offended that they actually added this to their profile next day.

That does us all a favor. Many of us become black when we see that shit, and we cross that provider right off the list.

Same with providers who have too young, or too old, restrictions.

They can do as they please, of course. And so can we.

[GreenRabit]

Sorry to put this forum into this position. I didn't intend for any political discussion here.

But, honestly, I prefer Senior Mongerer88's way of being direct and honest about how things around here.

The whole purpose of asking the question was to learn and understand how I can stay out of trouble and how can I enjoy the most given my limitations and my reality.

Even if the advice is an exaggeration, it still keeps me safe.

Not all the people have messaged have been biased.

Some were kind enough to say it upfront that they are not interested.

But, one of them was so offended that they actually added this to their profile next day -.

No B***k Men

Jalimon,

I've followed your posts on other forums. Your political perspective of the United States is framed too much by American news media (CNN perhaps? You have to realize our news media is highly biased and partisan. Liberal media outlets play up the race card and convince minority voters that they are treated poorly. Most Asian-Americans and Hispanic-Americans do not see the United States this way. (African-Americans are totally in line with the Democrats.) However, if you watch CNN or whatever you will not get an accurate depiction of life in the United States.

As a side note, I've worked with many Asian immigrants in the corporate world. Many will say they had a choice to immigrate to the United States or Canada. They opted for the United States. How bad can it be here for Asians?

Separately, I wanted to raise a style point that I have raised in the past. First, I don't think it's fair to come here and start encouraging others to go to other boards. Second, the board in question is infested with shills and overly-impacted by moderator and advertiser influence.