General Info

[Psychman]

I can explain most of this. However, it's unlikely everyone will understand.

1. Washing your hands is primarily to protect yourself. Unless you work in healthcare or food service, the probability you will infect someone because you haven't washed your hands is low. Washing your hands reduces the risk that you'll stick a contaminated finger in your nose. So whether you wash your hands 20 times a day or once a week doesn't matter.

2. Masks are worn to protect others. Depending on the mask and how well it fits it might give you some protection but that's not the primary purpose.

3. Vaccination reduces the risk you will become infected. It doesn't prevent infection. It also reduces the risk of serious illness or death.

4. Testing works in conjunction with 1, 2 and 3. It's to identify people who are potentially contagious, so they can be isolated to prevent further spread.

5. It's not about you. You might be the perfect law abiding, vaccinated citizen with clean hands. The guy sitting next to you on the plane might not be any of those things. Just recently we had a post about a guy who tested positive, got on a plane, flew to Tijuana and walked across the border because not infecting others was inconvenient.

5. There is a delay between becoming infected and being contagious. There's also a delay between becoming infected and testing positive. Shortening the testing window means less contagious people are getting on the crowded planes or waiting in lines in crowded airports. If a person is infected, but tests negative within 24 hours of their flight, there's a good chance they'll be away from the crowds before they are infectious. If an infected person tests negative 3 days before their flight, chances are they will be contagious before they board the plane.

Concerning the "millions of illegal criminals", I can't help you with that. They only exist within the twisted imaginations of some very disturbed people. However, if you're talking about the thousands of immigrants and refugees, I have some good news. If they've been traveling for months, and they've been exposed to Covid, chances are they either died along the way, or recovered and are no longer contagious. If you're planning to let one of them stick a finger in your nose, ask them to wash their hands first.

Alas, someone who has read some actual science. Cheers.

[LatinaLover#1]

I kind of knew the tight 24 hrs window was coming when I realized the difference since I came back to the US from Colombia 8 months ago vs Brazil 2 months ago. They kept tightening up the window. 8 months ago, it was just 3 days no matter the vaccination status, and 2 months ago, it was vaccinated is 3 day and non vac is 1 day. I didn't want to take my chances when I boarded the plane back to the US (I saw a dude got denied when he did his test within 2 days while I was boarding the plane in Colombia), so I took the test within 24 hrs even though I am vaccinated (had to do to see Cristo Redeemer) haha. Now I guess vaccination status doesn't mean anything anymore, does that mean no more vaccination discrimination? LOL.

And getting 2 Pfizer shots and a booster was bullshit. Brandon and Fauci have lied to us since the beginning. I now need 3 vaccine shots and a one day test to enter my country. But criminals can come and go as they please. How did these two s#it for brains ever get in charge of anything.

[FlowState985]

In the infinite wisdom of the brain dead administration, they force law abiding citizens with the where-with-all of being health conscious and being able to wash their hands and afford a plane ticket to now get tested regardless of Vaccination status, are now be forced into a tight 24 hour window to find a lab that will do the test and get the results back to you before your flight leaves you stranded.

I kind of knew the tight 24 hrs window was coming when I realized the difference since I came back to the US from Colombia 8 months ago vs Brazil 2 months ago. They kept tightening up the window. 8 months ago, it was just 3 days no matter the vaccination status, and 2 months ago, it was vaccinated is 3 day and non vac is 1 day. I didn't want to take my chances when I boarded the plane back to the US (I saw a dude got denied when he did his test within 2 days while I was boarding the plane in Colombia), so I took the test within 24 hrs even though I am vaccinated (had to do to see Cristo Redeemer) haha. Now I guess vaccination status doesn't mean anything anymore, does that mean no more vaccination discrimination? LOL.

[JjBee62]

In the infinite wisdom of the brain dead administration, they force law abiding citizens with the where-with-all of being health conscious and being able to wash their hands and afford a plane ticket to now get tested regardless of Vaccination status, are now be forced into a tight 24 hour window to find a lab that will do the test and get the results back to you before your flight leaves you stranded. However, millions of illegal criminals, who have traveled months without a roof over their heads and no testing of any sort, limited hand washing at best, are dispersed far and wide in our country to help spread the covid virus. But that's OK.

I never thought a political party in The United States would do this much damage to our society for the sole purpose of adding liberals to the Democratic voting roles. Their veiled excuse of caring for these people is laughable. I have made hundreds of trips to South and Latin America over the last 2+ decades and love the Latin people and culture. I have helped many of the less fortunate, more than any one of the hypocrites in the current administration. History will judge these liberal scoundrels harshly.

I can explain most of this. However, it's unlikely everyone will understand.

1. Washing your hands is primarily to protect yourself. Unless you work in healthcare or food service, the probability you will infect someone because you haven't washed your hands is low. Washing your hands reduces the risk that you'll stick a contaminated finger in your nose. So whether you wash your hands 20 times a day or once a week doesn't matter.

2. Masks are worn to protect others. Depending on the mask and how well it fits it might give you some protection but that's not the primary purpose.

3. Vaccination reduces the risk you will become infected. It doesn't prevent infection. It also reduces the risk of serious illness or death.

4. Testing works in conjunction with 1, 2 and 3. It's to identify people who are potentially contagious, so they can be isolated to prevent further spread.

5. It's not about you. You might be the perfect law abiding, vaccinated citizen with clean hands. The guy sitting next to you on the plane might not be any of those things. Just recently we had a post about a guy who tested positive, got on a plane, flew to Tijuana and walked across the border because not infecting others was inconvenient.

5. There is a delay between becoming infected and being contagious. There's also a delay between becoming infected and testing positive. Shortening the testing window means less contagious people are getting on the crowded planes or waiting in lines in crowded airports. If a person is infected, but tests negative within 24 hours of their flight, there's a good chance they'll be away from the crowds before they are infectious. If an infected person tests negative 3 days before their flight, chances are they will be contagious before they board the plane.

Concerning the "millions of illegal criminals", I can't help you with that. They only exist within the twisted imaginations of some very disturbed people. However, if you're talking about the thousands of immigrants and refugees, I have some good news. If they've been traveling for months, and they've been exposed to Covid, chances are they either died along the way, or recovered and are no longer contagious. If you're planning to let one of them stick a finger in your nose, ask them to wash their hands first.

[LatinaLover#1]

In the infinite wisdom of the brain dead administration, they force law abiding citizens with the where-with-all of being health conscious and being able to wash their hands and afford a plane ticket to now get tested regardless of Vaccination status, are now be forced into a tight 24 hour window to find a lab that will do the test and get the results back to you before your flight leaves you stranded. However, millions of illegal criminals, who have traveled months without a roof over their heads and no testing of any sort, limited hand washing at best, are dispersed far and wide in our country to help spread the covid virus. But that's OK.

I never thought a political party in The United States would do this much damage to our society for the sole purpose of adding liberals to the Democratic voting roles. Their veiled excuse of caring for these people is laughable. I have made hundreds of trips to South and Latin America over the last 2+ decades and love the Latin people and culture. I have helped many of the less fortunate, more than any one of the hypocrites in the current administration. History will judge these liberal scoundrels harshly.

[Mr Enternational]

I thought that was what you said the new rule is? " Starting December 6, all air passengers, regardless of vaccination status, must show a negative COVID-19 test taken no more than 1 day before travel to the United States. ". ".

He means why don't you have to do any testing if you are on a plane domestically in the USA.

[JustTK]

why isn't everyone who gets on a flight, regardless of origin, required to have the test.

I thought that was what you said the new rule is? " Starting December 6, all air passengers, regardless of vaccination status, must show a negative COVID-19 test taken no more than 1 day before travel to the United States. ". ".

[Mr Enternational]

I understand you said it's just your idea, but if that were the reason, why isn't everyone who gets on a flight, regardless of origin, required to have the test. It's the same risk.

LOL. You think Brandon knows the answer to that? It is going to be 3 more years of shit not making sense.

[Fun Luvr]

I think it is bcos when you cross a border by air you are a risk to fellow passengers in the airport, taxies, buses, plane, restaurants etc. But when you cross a border in your own car, you are a risk to no one. The idea is to lower the risk of infection to fellow passengers. I could be wrong of course, just my idea.

I understand you said it's just your idea, but if that were the reason, why isn't everyone who gets on a flight, regardless of origin, required to have the test. It's the same risk.

[Fun Luvr]

I am trying to fill the check mig form. When I select origin, no option to select USA. Any idea?

Also what happens if I don't fill this. Would there be any issue in boarding? Or extra time at BOG airport?

Look for the Spanish version of "United States", which is "Estados Unidos".

I think it depends on the airline if you would have an issue boarding, but almost assuredly you will have an issue going through immigration in Colombia.

[Xavter]

Look for Estados Unidos.

I am trying to fill the check mig form. When I select origin, no option to select USA. Any idea?

Also what happens if I don't fill this. Would there be any issue in boarding? Or extra time at BOG airport?

[JjBee62]

From the CDC website:

"Travel Requirements have changed. Starting December 6, all air passengers, regardless of vaccination status, must show a negative COVID-19 test taken no more than 1 day before travel to the United States. ".

They don't specify if it is 24 hours before travel, or anytime during the day before travel. Hopefully, it is like the prior 3-day requirement when it was anytime during the previous 3 days, not 72 hours.

Biden advisors just trying to exert more control over the people. Here is what he read from his teleprompter "We're going to fight this variant with science and speed, not chaos and confusion". That is a bunch of BS. Why is he not requiring tests of people crossing the Southern border?

I can think of a few reasons.

1. Commercial traffic. Many of those trucks cross the border several times each day. The delays would grind commercial transport to a halt.

2. Many of the people crossing, cross daily, for work, shopping or other business. At busy border crossings it's unlikely enough testing capacity is available.

3. Incubation period. There's a delay between exposure and when a person will test positive. With a high percentage of land border crossings by people who have been out of the country less than a day, testing wouldn't be very effective.

Curious why you're only concerned about the southern border? There's a northern border as well and a lot of people are crossing it every day.

[JjBee62]

I am trying to fill the check mig form. When I select origin, no option to select USA. Any idea?

Also what happens if I don't fill this. Would there be any issue in boarding? Or extra time at BOG airport?

It's because the list is translated from Spanish. Look for United States in the "E's", for Estados Unidos.

[JustTK]

Why is he not requiring tests of people crossing the Southern border?

I think it is bcos when you cross a border by air you are a risk to fellow passengers in the airport, taxies, buses, plane, restaurants etc. But when you cross a border in your own car, you are a risk to no one. The idea is to lower the risk of infection to fellow passengers. I could be wrong of course, just my idea.

[SamPeter71]

I am trying to fill the check mig form. When I select origin, no option to select USA. Any idea?

Also what happens if I don't fill this. Would there be any issue in boarding? Or extra time at BOG airport?