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  1. #2440
    Quote Originally Posted by ShooBree  [View Original Post]
    Actually, Covid-19 is pretty much the same thing as the flu.

    0.0% of the Swedish population age 0-70 have died with Covid-19.
    You're an idiot - 15000 Swedes have died from COVID. Not as many as americans but they're more vaccinated.

  2. #2439
    Quote Originally Posted by HighOnTravel  [View Original Post]
    I really believe the majority if people dying from it are vitamin the deficient and don't know it. Probably deficient in other immune system vitamins as well. I take 10 to 15 k iu of vitamin d3 daily, a shit ton if since and 1000 MG of vitamin see like 2 to 3 times daily or every hour if I'm feeling under the weather. I also try to eat as many antioxidant vegetables as well.

    Pretty sure I had covid last month. It was an on and off again flu like sickness that last for 5 to 6 weeks. At one point my chest got really bad and I experienced shortness of breath. I feel like if I had not been mega dosing vitamin the and zinc daily that one could have killed me because it was a very persistent sickness that worked in waves. I did notice that once I started taking 1000 MG of vitamin see every hour of the waking day I seemed to recover faster.
    Really? After 2 years of study by practically every health organization in the world, the solution comes from someone who stays fucked up on any kind of drug he can find, mixing and matching them with no regard for the possible interactions?

    I'm sure the Nobel committee will be in touch soon.

    It's not a pandemic of fear, it's a fucking plague of idiots.

  3. #2438
    Quote Originally Posted by Frogg  [View Original Post]
    This does not mean anything to me. People in their 60's die all the time from natural causes, even people in their 40's! The problem is you are afraid of dying of natural cause--I am not. If you lived your life well, why fear dying? I'm not afraid of the flu, of omikron, or whatever weird name you want to call it. I'f I get sick and die, too bad, I've lived happily. And yet, were all going to die--get over it. (I'm am much more frightened of car accidents, which is why I try not to spend time on the road if possible. I know of many more people whose lives have been ruimed by car accidents--yet there's no outcry to stop cars on the road). Many people get covid and it does absolutely nothing to them! Yet, like Charles Darwin pointed, the survival of the species goes to the fittest. That the weak are dying only benefits our species. There are 7 billion left. Covid is nothing compared to the post 1492 pandemics that wiped out 90% of indigenous populations. What percent of the human race has died from Covid? I rest my case.
    I already rested my case, thanks for proving my point:

    At this point, anyone still referring to Covid as "a flu" is a complete, fucking, clueless moron, who shouldn't be without parental supervision.
    Good job failing to understand the process of natural selection. Fittest refers to the passing on of DNA. A disease which primarily affects people who are past the age of reproduction has no effect on improving the species.

    It's not a competition. You don't have to try to come up with something stupider every post. Or does it just come naturally?

    Let me combine your thoughtless thoughts. Are you saying that the indigenous people of south and central America benefitted greatly from having 90% killed by disease?

  4. #2437
    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie97  [View Original Post]
    Once again the biggest problem our nation has with Covid is right wingers that spurn mitigation measures such as mask wearing, social distancing and vaccinations. Data has repeatedly been posted on this thread demonstrating that red states with few exceptions have greater Covid case rates based on population since the start of the pandemic than blue states. The difference becomes all the more striking when comparing the states at the top to those at the bottom. I'll include two attachments. Republicans also make up the lion's share by far when it comes to hold outs with vaccinations. And this data has come from more neutral data collection services like World O Meter. The border in the context of Covid is a red herring fit only for propaganda networks like Fox News and the like. And you cannot completely secure the border, even while employing a ridiculous amount of resources. The border is close to 2000 miles long and includes the Rio Grande River. Stowaways can also be hidden in vehicles and we have trade agreements. So what is a red herring? Here ya go.

    https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/...es/Red-Herring

    P.S. Thanks for the congenial post.
    Hey Paulie,

    These are all complex issues and again I want to state that this is just my opinion. Regarding covid, I think the biggest problem which no one is speaking about is how the vaccines don't seem to be anywhere near 95-90% effective like they were supposed to be. The virus seems to have spread just as easily before and after the vaccinations began and I understand there will be a plethora of statistics to argue against my point. If you look at the numbers of daily infections around the nation and even other nations, the virus still hasn't been mitigated and the vaccines have been out almost a year. With 60% of the USA population vaccinated and another 50 million confirmed cases, "not counting unconfirmed cases", we should have hit some level of heard immunity which we haven't yet. I attribute much of this due to the false effectiveness of the vaccines. Yes, I could absolutely be wrong. I am also completely aware of how the American media portrays the people who are anti-vaccine as being mostly conservative. That being said, from my experience, Anti-vaccination has much more to do with age, health, and not being able to miss work for several days while you are recovering from the vaccine. Younger healthier adults from both conservative and liberal backgrounds don't feel as threatened by the virus and are not as likely to get the vaccine. I have never actually met someone who fits the liberal narrative of a right wing "anti-vaxer", yes I am sure they are out there, but I don't think they are anywhere as numerous as the liberal media would try to make you believe. It reminds me of the Q-NON weirdos the left tries to associate with conservatives. The vast vast vast majority of conservatives would never associate with such non-sense.

    I also agree with you on the fact we should be publicly wearing masks, distancing when necessary, and if you are healthy enough-to get the vaccine. Due to the speed at which the vaccine was created, I don't believe it should mandatory outside public sector employment and I even feel maybe public employees should be able to choose for themselves about what to do with their own health regarding such an unproven vaccine.

    Yes of course it would be almost impossible to secure a 2000 mile long border, I am not saying Biden has to secure it 100%, but he could put more effective measures in place to protect the Americans and Mexicans living along the border and just as importantly, take away the economic opportunities for drug cartels to cash in on with an unsecured border. I know it sounds ridiculous, but when you look into it, a nation with the resources of the USA could secure such a vast distance, it wouldn't be as expensive you might think. It does seem to be more feasible than many realize. The previous administration was much more effective at stopping illegal immigration and I am personally quite angry this administration cares so little for all who are victims of an unsecured border. It seems like they are so dismissive of border problems just to spite Trump and his supporters which is sad.

    I think a much better solution to the immigration crisis, and I believe is should be referred to as a crisis, would be to create a much easier form of temporary immigration where immigrants can live and work in the USA, pay taxes and have their children schooled here, but they do not get the right to vote or access to certain welfare services. Such a compromise could alleviate much of the problems stemming from unchecked migration. Dems and Republicans would never be able to put their differences aside for such a compromise though.

  5. #2436
    Quote Originally Posted by Frogg  [View Original Post]
    This does not mean anything to me. People in their 60's die all the time from natural causes, even people in their 40's! The problem is you are afraid of dying of natural cause--I am not. If you lived your life well, why fear dying? I'm not afraid of the flu, of omikron, or whatever weird name you want to call it. I'f I get sick and die, too bad, I've lived happily. And yet, were all going to die--get over it. (I'm am much more frightened of car accidents, which is why I try not to spend time on the road if possible. I know of many more people whose lives have been ruimed by car accidents--yet there's no outcry to stop cars on the road). Many people get covid and it does absolutely nothing to them! Yet, like Charles Darwin pointed, the survival of the species goes to the fittest. That the weak are dying only benefits our species. There are 7 billion left. Covid is nothing compared to the post 1492 pandemics that wiped out 90% of indigenous populations. What percent of the human race has died from Covid? I rest my case.
    I really believe the majority if people dying from it are vitamin the deficient and don't know it. Probably deficient in other immune system vitamins as well. I take 10 to 15 k iu of vitamin d3 daily, a shit ton if since and 1000 MG of vitamin see like 2 to 3 times daily or every hour if I'm feeling under the weather. I also try to eat as many antioxidant vegetables as well.

    Pretty sure I had covid last month. It was an on and off again flu like sickness that last for 5 to 6 weeks. At one point my chest got really bad and I experienced shortness of breath. I feel like if I had not been mega dosing vitamin the and zinc daily that one could have killed me because it was a very persistent sickness that worked in waves. I did notice that once I started taking 1000 MG of vitamin see every hour of the waking day I seemed to recover faster.

  6. #2435

    When I'm 74

    Quote Originally Posted by PolyOrchid  [View Original Post]
    Sadly so, Frogg. I'm 74, had Delta Dawn in Nicaragua, including pneumonia, came through, and back in the fray. Thank god I've pretty much lived in places where the fear isn't so bad, but I feel the noose is tightening everywhere. And look at the reaction to Omicron, even though the WHO and others say they don't really know how serious it will be. But the first reaction is shut her down. Fear, fear, fear.

    Well, I'm following your tracks, Frogg, and am booked for 3 days, January 1-4 in Villavicencio and hope to have half as good a time as you did.

    Merry Christmas. And "tranquilo," people.
    Good post. The fear porn is never ending. South Park did a good episode on the new variant that hits South Park. The propagandists have entire university sectors teaching marketing. Advertising is a huge industry. They know howq to manipulate people.

    You may not be "The Greatest Generation" but you are am ong the last cohort that had independent thinking faculties.

  7. #2434
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    Let's keep the stupid shit in the stupid shit threads. My post was to pass on information, nothing more.

    I'll play the game. I personally knew a 63 year old man, in excellent health, with no pre-existing conditions, who died from Covid after spending nearly 3 months in ICU. Does that mean anything? No. Just like your 77 year old woman, he was just one person.

    Bringing up one person's experience immediately after mentioning the nearly 8 billion world population, as if that proves anything is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen.

    I'm not going to rewrite my own experience with Covid. I'll just say it was the worst experience of my life.

    At this point, anyone still referring to Covid as "a flu" is a complete, fucking, clueless moron, who shouldn't be without parental supervision.
    Actually, Covid-19 is pretty much the same thing as the flu.

    0.0% of the Swedish population age 0-70 have died with Covid-19.

  8. #2433
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    I'll play the game. I personally knew a 63 year old man, in excellent health, with no pre-existing conditions, who died from Covid after spending nearly 3 months in ICU. Does that mean anything? No. Just like your 77 year old woman, he was just one person.

    Bringing up one person's experience immediately after mentioning the nearly 8 billion world population, as if that proves anything is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen.

    At this point, anyone still referring to Covid as "a flu" is a complete, fucking, clueless moron, who shouldn't be without parental supervision.
    This does not mean anything to me. People in their 60's die all the time from natural causes, even people in their 40's! The problem is you are afraid of dying of natural cause--I am not. If you lived your life well, why fear dying? I'm not afraid of the flu, of omikron, or whatever weird name you want to call it. I'f I get sick and die, too bad, I've lived happily. And yet, were all going to die--get over it. (I'm am much more frightened of car accidents, which is why I try not to spend time on the road if possible. I know of many more people whose lives have been ruined by car accidents--yet there's no outcry to stop cars on the road). Many people get covid and it does absolutely nothing to them! Yet, like Charles Darwin pointed, the survival of the species goes to the fittest. That the weak are dying only benefits our species. There are 7 billion left. Covid is nothing compared to the post 1492 pandemics that wiped out 90% of indigenous populations. What percent of the human race has died from Covid? I rest my case.

  9. #2432
    Quote Originally Posted by Villainy  [View Original Post]
    WoW! So you want to compare Sweden to the US and Colombia. I see. How about comparing Sweden to its neighbors? The countries with the most similar climate, population density and genetics?

    Worldometer statistics to date:

    Deaths per million:

    Sweden: 1,485.

    Denmark: 508.

    Norway: 200.

    Finland: 249.

    Every way you look at the statistics the conclusion keeps coming back to one central fact. Sweden has done worse than their closest comparatives. I. E. Their neighbors.

    No amount of Elvis anal--ysis is going to make the facts different than what they are. Now call Shoo (t) (the) Bree (ze) to come in and tell us again that Iraq is the best country to compare to Sweden.
    It's funny how you are cherry-picking, we all know that Norway, Finland and Denmark are statistical outliers. So why are you so dishonest?

    Sweden is nothing like their neighbors and have much more in common with other European countries such as the UK, France and Belgium.

    The UK 2132.

    France 1826.

    Belgium 2343.

    Sweden 1485.

    Sweden is a country ravaged by gang shootings, sexual violence, uncontrolled migration and poverty.

    There are way more immigrants in Sweden than in Finland, way more gang shootings than in Denmark and we are significantly less prosperous than Norway.

    So why would we be the same as our neighbors when we are different in so many other aspects?

    Villainy is just another ignorant libtard, he's so stupid that he actually claimed that Sweden is genetically homogeonous and a large part of wellpaying jobs in Europe are with US companies. Its weird that he has yet to present any source to his claim but still have time to make other posts.

    One day he might realize that Sweden is full of Turks, Iraqis and Syrians and that those groups are extremely overrepresentated when it comes to Covid.

    Also lets not forget to compare Brazil and Colombia with Peru:

    Brazil 2868.

    Colombia 2494.

    Peru 5990.

    Good night!

  10. #2431
    Quote Originally Posted by Villainy  [View Original Post]
    WoW! So you want to compare Sweden to the US and Colombia. I see. How about comparing Sweden to its neighbors? The countries with the most similar climate, population density and genetics?

    Worldometer statistics to date:

    Deaths per million:.
    Actually, douche, here is a news flash, the pandemic is not over with, and point #1 is Finland, Norway, and Denmark are at all time highs with case numbers while Sweden is not.

    And the same can be said about your stupid douche analysis of blue states and red states. Point #2 is right now blue states are getting killed with Covid while red states have a much smaller number of active cases.

    I am not cheering on Biden having more cases and deaths than Trump did. Hell, I wish he had a plan that works, but all he is doing is more finger pointing. All you douches do is spin the numbers in an attempt to make Biden look good and Republicans look bad because Biden's plan has sucked ass.

    If good governance matter with regards to Covid, point #3 is that we should be looking at fucking Africa as the best in the world.

    https://www.science.org/content/arti...ng-explain-why

    Although Africa reported its millionth official COVID-19 case last week, it seems to have weathered the pandemic relatively well so far, with fewer than one confirmed case for every thousand people and just 23,000 deaths so far. Yet several antibody surveys suggest far more Africans have been infected with the coronavirus discrepancy that is puzzling scientists around the continent. "We do not have an answer," says immunologist Sophie Uyoga at the Kenya Medical Research Institute.

    End of quote.

    It is funny and here I thought you douches had all the answers. Well, whatever is going on in Africa, it is NOT due to ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine right?

    Points #2 and 3 are just to counter your stupid spin that governance has jack shit to do with a virus spreading. To me, all that government does is try to take credit for something good and blame someone else for something bad.

    Truth is that it did not matter who was in office, the virus kept spreading, and the Swedish approach, education and persuasion not harsh laws, is going to happen. It is just going to take a lot longer as long as politicians hope to spin that they have all the answers with Covid, and douches like you believe it.

  11. #2430

    Hi Ram

    Quote Originally Posted by RamDavidson84  [View Original Post]
    Paulie97,

    In my opinion the safest solution regarding the spread of covid-19 would be to secure the border which our President, or my President depending on your country, is failing miserably to do anything about.
    Once again the biggest problem our nation has with Covid is right wingers that spurn mitigation measures such as mask wearing, social distancing and vaccinations. Data has repeatedly been posted on this thread demonstrating that red states with few exceptions have greater Covid case rates based on population since the start of the pandemic than blue states. The difference becomes all the more striking when comparing the states at the top to those at the bottom. I'll include two attachments. Republicans also make up the lion's share by far when it comes to hold outs with vaccinations. And this data has come from more neutral data collection services like World O Meter. The border in the context of Covid is a red herring fit only for propaganda networks like Fox News and the like. And you cannot completely secure the border, even while employing a ridiculous amount of resources. The border is close to 2000 miles long and includes the Rio Grande River. Stowaways can also be hidden in vehicles and we have trade agreements. So what is a red herring? Here ya go.

    https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/...es/Red-Herring

    P.S. Thanks for the congenial post.
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  12. #2429

    Rofl

    Yo Cee Jay.

    The bottom line is that you went in a certain casa once, were presented with one girl, and based on this single visit concluded that this was all they had to offer, and without ever asking the manager how many girls were busy. You then further concluded that, based on this experience, that the place is about to go out of business. Those are the points that you consistently ignore and for obvious reasons. I'll let the audience decide how foolish you are.

    P.S. It makes perfect sense that you are a Trump conservative. Now all the pieces are fitting together.

  13. #2428
    Let's keep the stupid shit in the stupid shit threads. My post was to pass on information, nothing more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frogg  [View Original Post]
    For all you chicken littles out there sacred of a flu, I remind you that so far only about 5 millions people worldwide have died of this thing, most of them around 80 years old, or with pre-existing terminal illnesses--a small fraction-of-one-percent of the nearly 8 billion people on this planet. I personally know a 77 year old woman who got covid-19, was sick for a bit, and is now back to her jolly old self.

    Like FDR said, the only thing we have to fear is fear itself. This is a pandemic of fear.
    I'll play the game. I personally knew a 63 year old man, in excellent health, with no pre-existing conditions, who died from Covid after spending nearly 3 months in ICU. Does that mean anything? No. Just like your 77 year old woman, he was just one person.

    Bringing up one person's experience immediately after mentioning the nearly 8 billion world population, as if that proves anything is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen.

    I'm not going to rewrite my own experience with Covid. I'll just say it was the worst experience of my life.

    At this point, anyone still referring to Covid as "a flu" is a complete, fucking, clueless moron, who shouldn't be without parental supervision.

  14. #2427

    Tranquilo!

    Quote Originally Posted by Frogg  [View Original Post]
    This is a pandemic of fear.
    Sadly so, Frogg. I'm 74, had Delta Dawn in Nicaragua, including pneumonia, came through, and back in the fray. Thank god I've pretty much lived in places where the fear isn't so bad, but I feel the noose is tightening everywhere. And look at the reaction to Omicron, even though the WHO and others say they don't really know how serious it will be. But the first reaction is shut her down. Fear, fear, fear.

    Well, I'm following your tracks, Frogg, and am booked for 3 days, January 1-4 in Villavicencio and hope to have half as good a time as you did.

    Merry Christmas. And "tranquilo," people.

  15. #2426
    Quote Originally Posted by Frogg  [View Original Post]
    They're making all this fuss about people on airplanes, and yet 20,000 pedestrians cross the border into the US from Tijuana everyday without having to show proof of covid test or vaccinations. Not to mention the other US / MEX border crossings. And they are not practicing social distancing on those crowded pedestrian lines. The people who fly are getting the short of end of the stick. It's sounds like neursosis to me.
    If the Biden people were actually concerned about "crowded planes or waiting in lines in crowded airports", they would put the same testing requirements on all airline passengers, regardless of whether it's an international or domestic flight. After all, the number of cases per one million population is higher in the US than 90% of all countries and territories. If they tried to impose those requirements on domestic flights, there would be a revolution. The international fliers really are getting the short end of the stick.

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