Stupid shit in Medellin

[ShooBree]

https://www.google.se/amp/s/www.dail...s-experts.html

[ScatManDoo]

Here is a novel idea: quit listening to people paid to promote the vaccine. This is from Robert Kennedy's book:

"The CDC is a subsidiary of the pharmaceutical industry. The agency owns more than 20 vaccine patents and purchases and sells $4. 1 billion in vaccines annually. Congressman Dave Weldon has pointed out that the primary metric for success across the CDC is how many vaccines the agency sells and how successfully the agency expands its vaccine program regardless of any negative effects on human health."

40% of Pfizer's revenue has been off of the Covid vaccine and its profit off of it is close to $1 billion. It is amazing how many people are getting rich off a shitty vaccine, a vaccine so bad that it might not even work for the latest variant Omicron.

Covid-19 has killed over 5.3 million people worldwide.

How dare the pharmaceutical industry use it as an excuse to grow profits?

J&J has pledged to do their distribution as needed world-wide initially as a non-profit activity. But expecting to cash in later as boosters and maintenance for vaccines are typical and expected.

[Paulie97]

I know I'm on vacation, but this is such wonderful news I had to take a moment to share it. Wink.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wire...fusal-81685364

[JjBee62]

Please provide a link to the research to substantiate that claim.

You don't really need a study for that. Do you need an accountant to tell you how much money is in your wallet? It's literally a matter of counting the total number of deaths and dividing it by the number who were vaccinated.

A simple Google search will provide you with plenty of data from plenty of sources. However, to make it easier for you, here are a couple of links:

https://medicalpartnership.usg.edu/c...-unvaccinated/

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7043e2.htm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...-higher-covid/

https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/coronav...nation-status/

[JustTK]

First of all, I have been vegan for over twenty years. It doesn't protect you from viruses. Second of all, you exhibit all symptoms of those proposing failing arguments, most notably introducing arguments about veganism to support your stance on COVID, which, again also being vegan, I can assure you is absolutely unrelated.

Ah bully for you Huacho, way to go, man. Then your not half as bad as the person that you sound to be!

"It doesn't protect you from viruses" - a vegetarian diet was shown by research to be 67% more effective against bad COVID outcomes than a meat and mammary pus diet. It is thought that a vegan diet would be even better. So really, it gives similar efficacy as the vax. Except veganism offers lifetime protection, not just 4 months.

[Elvis 2008]

Evidence? I make it a point to talk to all vaccinated people about their experiences and as I said previously, hundreds and hundreds of people I've talked to and none report 'horrible side effects.' So again I postulate that many anti-vaxxers are just plain pussies who are scared of needles.

LOL. Oh brother.

1. Drug companies refused to produce the vaccines unless given immunity, and they have said immunity.

2. USA offers no financial assistance (unlike the UK) to those harmed by the vaccine. UK usually has 100 people harmed by vaccines per year. This year it is 25 X as much.

3. Government officials hawking the vaccine have legal immunity from being sued if they are wrong about its benefits and risks.

4. Fauci, the "scientist" you Dems all love, said at first the virus was contained, then we did not need to wear masks, then admitted to lying about the need for masks, then said 70% vaccination would get us to herd immunity, then said 85% would do it and we know now that even 99% would not do it.

5. Orwell used the term double speak as a means to gain government control in his book 1984. What he meant was the government could quickly change a word to have two meanings. Clinton famously said when caught lying, "That depends on what your definition of is is". The CDC just changed what the word vaccine meant and will soon change what "fully vaccinated" means.

6. The FDA just asked a judge to extend the date on when they will release all the safety data on the Covid 19 vaccine. That date was 55 years from now. Now the FDA is asking for 75 years: https://www.theepochtimes.com/fda-sa...aign=ZeroHedge.

7. The vaccine probably will not work in the future. 79% of people infected with Omicron in the USA were fully vaccinated: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/...cid=mm7050e1_w.

8. There is a risk of heart damage with the vaccine. In Europe, soccer players who have been vaccinated are dropping like flies. See the link: https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/ha...covid-coalmine.

9. Young men are getting myocarditis and pericarditis as a result of the vaccine, The American Heart Association said in a study, "We conclude that the mRNA vacs dramatically increase inflammation on the endothelium and T cell infiltration of cardiac muscle and may account for the observations of increased thrombosis, cardiomyopathy, and other vascular events following vaccination". https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1....suppl_1.10712.

10, Debilitating tinnitus has been reported to be as high as 24% in one study. There was a member on the board here who complained of having this after the vaccine, and I have seen 2 people in real life with this problem.

11. Flu like symptoms after getting the vaccine per the CDC are "very common". I have seen people suffer with flu like symptoms for 30 days after the vaccine was given.

12. Big Pharma's influence on the media: According to a 2009 study, with the exception of CBS every major media outlet in the United States shares at least one board member with at least one drug company.

13. In this 2017 article, Drug companies spend about $5 billion a year on advertising with these corporate media outlets. https://trofire.com/2017/04/11/big-p...fighting-back/.

14. The United States is the only country, besides New Zealand, that legally permits "direct-to-consumer" pharmaceutical advertising. https://www.thrillist.com/health/nat...gal-in-america.

15. USA vaccination cards do not have just two lines for when vaccinations were given. They have four lines. To me, this was an expectation on the part of government and the drug companies that the vaccines were likely to fail after two shots were given.

16. The vaccines were not 95% effective against transmission. They are 0% effective, and the bullying on the basis that the vaccines prevent transmission (such as in your post) continues to this day.

[Knowledge]

I am definitely very afraid of needles. Just the thought makes me feel queasy. I've never had a flu shot but I would not call myself an anti-vaxxer. I had two doses of Pfizer. I assume like most people my arm felt like someone stuck a needle in it for something like a day and a half. It was too late when a nurse pointed out my stupid oversight of getting the second dose in the same arm only a few weeks later. I might have suffered fatigue but I don't know because I was jet lagged both times I was vaccinated. Sometime in the next month I will get a booster and I don't plan to be jet lagged when I get it this time. We'll see what happens this time. Anti-vaxxers have a right to be anti-vaccine in most every country so far. I'm ok with it. The legal classic example used to teach law students the meaning of rights is the rights of anyone's fist are limited by the rights of anyone else's nose, as defined by the crime of assault. A more real life example are nude beaches. You can be a naturists among other naturists without being seen by people who aren't naturists. Soon maybe there will be anti-vax resorts.

Evidence? I make it a point to talk to all vaccinated people about their experiences and as I said previously, hundreds and hundreds of people I've talked to and none report 'horrible side effects.' So again I postulate that many anti-vaxxers are just plain pussies who are scared of needles.

[JustTK]

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Pedro, your inbox is full. I can not reply to your msg.

[JustTK]

The anti-vaxxers are too brain-dead to understand.
They are also the first people who would beat a shirtless / shoeless person to death for disrespecting a "No shirt. No shoes. No service. " sign but somehow don't see the parallel to disrespecting a "Masks required for entry" sign.

Another board member that smears people with ridiculous views that no one holds, so that they can attack them? Dear me. Haven't we just spoken of that?

Prove me wrong PVM. Show we one RCT that proves that masks are effective in curbing the spread of virus. Come on PVM, show me the science, please!! Surely, it can't be difficult bcos so many keep telling is that science is on their side! Come on, you can do it. Show us the science!

[JustTK]

You have made completely false assumptions to my entire post and point of view regarding this topic. It makes you look a little delusional how you came to the conclusions that you did from "my posts". I think your reading what other people wrote and attributing their views as mine, which they aren't..

There are several of them here Ram. Criminal, P97, JB. They all do it. They accuse you of beliefs that you do not hold bcos it makes their lives easier in being able to attack the argument and insult you. It is their common trait, and it is incredibly dishonest. In fact, I no longer communicate with them bcos they are not willing to debate in an honest or respect manner.

I too never said the vax lacks all efficacy. I have said all along that it has some short term efficacy. I agree that it helps the recipient to avoid serious illness and death. The stats prove that. But what they do not prove is their long term efficacy, and that they will crush the virus. Therefore, you are correct. The vax is UNPROVEN. It does not do what it has been sold to do. It is a huge global political lie. As Elvis says, even if we were 100% vaxd, the virus would still be alive and well, living among us. So any mandate is a failed initiative bcos it cannot possibly achieve what it is told it will do.

What? The government lying to us? Surely this cannot be? They have never done that before. Have they? . Just every day. All through my life, the USA government has been lead by extreme liars. Nixon, Reagan, Clinton, Bush and Bush, Trump, Obama. Now Biden. The whole fkn lot of them. Time and time again. It's surely part of the job description. Why people cannot accept that they could be lying to us again in order to win our compliance is beyond me. This is exactly why THEY DO LIE. Bcos of sheeple like these that buy their BS.

[Huacho]

The vaccine has horrible side effects

Evidence? I make it a point to talk to all vaccinated people about their experiences and as I said previously, hundreds and hundreds of people I've talked to and none report 'horrible side effects.' So again I postulate that many anti-vaxxers are just plain pussies who are scared of needles.

[Huacho]

Huacho do you eat beef, chicken, fish, pork, cheese, milk? Then I think you are a selfish arsehole. Firstly, bcos you do not care about the lives of those unfortunate creatures (the very definition of selfishness), and secondly bcos by eating those animal products, you put yourself and others at greater risk of infection. That IS scientifically proven. So Huacho, tell me honestly, who is the arsehole now?

First of all, I have been vegan for over twenty years. It doesn't protect you from viruses. Second of all, you exhibit all symptoms of those proposing failing arguments, most notably introducing arguments about veganism to support your stance on COVID, which, again also being vegan, I can assure you is absolutely unrelated.

[PVMonger]

"Short"? Seriously dude I've read novels that weren't much longer.

"no one is saying that vaccines are useless."

Apparently you only read selectively. Elvis, JustTK, Shoo (t the) Bree (ze) and others are saying exactly that and without even a modicum of serious evidence to support their views.

"or there is some global conspiracy like you are trying to insinuate."

Again the same gabble of conspiracy theorists have been saying exactly that. I'm just not sure right now if their consensus is that it is a political conspiracy, or a Big Pharma conspiracy or Medical Establishment getting paid-off conspiracy.

"I just feel people are educated enough to make decisions regarding their own health."

If the health decision was about whether to get a minor operation (or even a major one) absolutely people should have the right to make that decision for themselves. but when the decision affects the health of many others should Government not step in and make decisions based on best information to protect the citizenry as a whole?..

Amen brother. Amen. The anti-vaxxers are too brain-dead to understand.

They are also the first people who would beat a shirtless / shoeless person to death for disrespecting a "No shirt. No shoes. No service. " sign but somehow don't see the parallel to disrespecting a "Masks required for entry" sign.

[Elvis 2008]

P.S. As to your freedoms, "no shirt no shoes no service," so now it's wear as mask as requested. Respect the rights of business owners to do business with whom they please. As to the government, forced quarantines of the TB infected were upheld by the SCOTUS. Nations can protect themselves from inconsiderate people until the pandemic ends. The whiners are way outnumbered, so best bet is the accept the circumstances and ride this out with the rest of us.
Dropping the mike. It's vacation time..

TB is very contagious and kills millions per year. The Covid vaccine does not prevent transmission.

I do not think anyone here has said that the vaccine does not prevent hospitalization and death. What has been said is more vaccination is not going to lead to an end to the pandemic and that forcing people to get the vaccine, when it does not prevent transmission, is barbaric. All you keep saying is the vaccine has no risk and is all benefit. That is complete nonsense. The vaccine has horrible side effects and given that there is a risk and benefit, it should be up to the individual not you Democrats to decide if people want it or not.

I had looked at this from the wrong angle using logic. This is the usual BS I get from the NY Times, "In Republican-leaning communities, the biggest Covid problem remains a widespread refusal to take the pandemic seriously. About 40 percent of Republican adults have not received a vaccine shot, according to the most recent Kaiser Family Foundation poll. As a result, the Covid death rate is far higher in heavily Republican counties than in Democratic ones."

I was like "what is the point?" Fauci said we would get to herd immunity if we were 70% vaccinated and then 85%. We now know from Gibraltar and Ireland that even if you go to 90+% that is not true. There is no herd immunity and therefore no end to the pandemic. We can run around scared or accept that we have to live with it.

But that is not what the Democrats have been saying the whole time. Guys like Paulie, Villany, PVMonger and all the Democrats have been saying nonstop that if we just listened to the "scientists" everything would be fine. Well, the vaccines being 95% effective was pure bull, and herd immunity is too. The "scientists" record is abysmal, and the question now is are they serving us or themselves.

The Democrats ran on the pandemic. Biden said that no president should be in power with the number of people who died with Covid under Trump. At the time, that number was 220,000. By Biden's own definition, he is a failure.

So the point of this is not a debate about the vaccine. That is a red herring. It is the Democrats complete failure on the pandemic. Instead of owning that they were wrong, they are pointing their fingers at Republicans and saying "Everything would be fine if not for you guys. " I was wrong to mentally challenge them. I should have been laughing and said "Really? That is the best you got? The worldwide pandemic continuing on is the fault of Republicans?

We should not take these guys seriously at all. They know they are wrong and just hoping to distract enough people from the truth. With the pandemic, the Democratic leadership has done nothing to prove they have been better when Trump was president. Absolutely nothing.

[RamDavidson84]

Thank you for your permission.

I am being trolled by a dude who likes to sexually gratify himself with human feces so much that he actually created an online alias about it. Right now I am questioning all my life choices as to how I ended up in a forum being criticized by this fucking dude. A guy who wants to use people's shit to get himself off and lord only knows do what else with people's shit hahahaha. This guy has no fucking shame either, dude straight up makes his forum name Scatman hahahahahaha. That's some funny fucking shit, pun intended LOL. I am taking a picture of this post and sending it out to my friends in a group chat, hahaha thank you for existing Scatman.