Hong Kong Club Reports

[BlackThought]

Even though this "works" (as far as reducing your time in line) it's a scam. Really you're just paying a random person to walk with you to cut the line, which you're not allowed to do. I tried it once last year not knowing how it worked and thinking it was somehow some "legit" operation they had and felt bad afterwards, LOL. When I did it last year, I countered the $20 price with $10, which was quickly accepted. That should've been a red flag for me.

One thing I noticed this year is they do seem to have a couple of Mexican policia towards the front of the line watching the line, seemingly at least in part to catch line cutters.

So I guess the best solution for those without global entry is to take the $10 bus ride across the border. As the bus as a special lane that bypasses the regular vehicle line.

[Captain Solo]

I flew from Medellin to Mexico City on Viva Aerobus last Friday. Mexican Customs announced that special procedures apply to flights from Colombia, due to it being a major source of drugs. We were sniffed by dogs, luggage were sent through X-ray machines; one young woman was targeted, her luggage was opened up and searched carefully.

I flew from MEX to LAX arriving in the afternoon Monday, pulling along my carry-on suitcase. The walk was very long from the terminal to US Customs booths. Couple hundreds people queued up in front of the booths, none was in the GE lanes; I was the only one. A Customs woman told me to go ahead to the dozen GE machines, take my hat and mask off for the picture. The machine already read the GE card in my wallet via RFID, automatically detected and took my picture. It was all done in less than 30 seconds. That was it, I was cleared. The woman said I could go.

Meanwhile hundreds other passengers were waiting in line to be interviewed, body scanned, luggage Xrayed and searched by US Customs.

Get your GE card with the US government's trusted travelers privileges.

[BlackThought]

I'm a very patient person and actually didn't mind waiting in those ped lines. Of course it did help that the GF insisted on waiting in line with me until I crossed. But all those line cutters were really raising my blood pressure even ended up in a couple confrontations. So in the name of good health I finally got Global Entry. Now I'm a legal line cutter. WOW after bypassing these recent crazy lines, if they told me the cost of GE went up to $1000 I would happily pay it, that card is priceless.

The earliest global entry appointment I can find is in March 2022. Need something ASAP.

[SeaBeeJoe]

I'm a very patient person and actually didn't mind waiting in those ped lines. Of course it did help that the GF insisted on waiting in line with me until I crossed. But all those line cutters were really raising my blood pressure even ended up in a couple confrontations. So in the name of good health I finally got Global Entry. Now I'm a legal line cutter. WOW after bypassing these recent crazy lines, if they told me the cost of GE went up to $1000 I would happily pay it, that card is priceless.

I am applying for mine as I plan to live in Tijuana in the future and work in San Diego.

[Baxter Slade]

I'm a very patient person and actually didn't mind waiting in those ped lines. Of course it did help that the GF insisted on waiting in line with me until I crossed. But all those line cutters were really raising my blood pressure even ended up in a couple confrontations. So in the name of good health I finally got Global Entry. Now I'm a legal line cutter. WOW after bypassing these recent crazy lines, if they told me the cost of GE went up to $1000 I would happily pay it, that card is priceless.

[BrotherMouzone]

What about those guys offering a spot closer to the front of the line for $20? How much time would that shave down? I wouldn't mind spending $20 if it shaves hours in waiting.

Even though this "works" (as far as reducing your time in line) it's a scam. Really you're just paying a random person to walk with you to cut the line, which you're not allowed to do. I tried it once last year not knowing how it worked and thinking it was somehow some "legit" operation they had and felt bad afterwards, LOL. When I did it last year, I countered the $20 price with $10, which was quickly accepted. That should've been a red flag for me.

One thing I noticed this year is they do seem to have a couple of Mexican policia towards the front of the line watching the line, seemingly at least in part to catch line cutters.

[BlackThought]

Do NOT pay anyone to walk you to cut the line. Even if you are 6 foot tall, if you piss guys off they will turn it into a rumble and you will be outnumbered. And easily a third of the guys in San Diego carry a knife on them. I moved up once just 30 feet and 10 of them went nuts on me. If I hadn't moved back It would of led to them turning violent. This was after I watched 200 people cut me for 4 hours. Its better to pay the 8 or 10 bucks for the bus. Should be under 90 minutes that method. If you hate lines just go back after 8 pm. Fortunately I did the global entry finally. That card is worth more to me than my cars.

Sol12 has a good point LOL, not going to argue with him. Is it the The Tourismo Express Bus? It's only $10 each way? If so, I rather do that than pay someone $20 to cut the line and piss everyone off.

[Dogers69]

What about those guys offering a spot closer to the front of the line for $20? How much time would that shave down? I wouldn't mind spending $20 if it shaves hours in waiting.

Do NOT pay anyone to walk you to cut the line. Even if you are 6 foot tall, if you piss guys off they will turn it into a rumble and you will be outnumbered. And easily a third of the guys in San Diego carry a knife on them. I moved up once just 30 feet and 10 of them went nuts on me. If I hadn't moved back It would of led to them turning violent. This was after I watched 200 people cut me for 4 hours. Its better to pay the 8 or 10 bucks for the bus. Should be under 90 minutes that method. If you hate lines just go back after 8 pm. Fortunately I did the global entry finally. That card is worth more to me than my cars.

[Sol12]

I was returning Saturday around 5 PM, the line was 3.5 - 4 hours long.

Th Border Agents do check, and are well aware of the difference between a Sentri and Passport card. I tried sneaking with the passport card Saturday, and they sent me back. Another tactic is to time yourself to join a a moving line, pretending you have a Sentri and only let the border agent see your card -- they will assume you were already in the line and going through. DON'T let the other folks in the line see your passport card.

The only somewhat legit $20 scenarios is the guy has someone in the line already close to the front and they put you next to that person. I tried it once and it took me an hour to go through. Another time a guy had no one in the line and he just took me to the front of the line and tried to sneak me through, the Border agent and people in the line sent me back -- they guy had disappeared but then reappeared and put us back in the line a bit further, still without anyone in the line. Since then I have stopped paying folks and manage to get through on my own.

If the Omicron variant causes the border to close, it will be a blessing (shorter lines like pre-opening of the border, when only US citizens / residents were allowed to travel for "essential" reasons) -- but I think the economic pressures are such that they will keep the border open.

Supposedly they are trying to discourage this more in the lines and people are making more of a scene about it. If you can't wait in line like everyone else don't go to Tijuana, you give the rest of us a bad name with your better than everyone else attitude and you can buy your way for what you want. Most Mexicans have a high tolerance for waiting and don't whine like Americans, but with the border the tolerance level tends to be different especially if the line is as long as some have claimed.

Also not trying to make this personal with you Urf as I don't recall reading your previous posts but I do find it funny in general on this board that many complain about girls or waiters trying to make money by taking advantage of those that allow themselves to be taken advantage of but you will gladly screw over others and pay someone to do it. Seems hypocritical to me but what to expect from guys that pay girls for sex and than complain about it.

[Urfikhan]

What about those guys offering a spot closer to the front of the line for $20? How much time would that shave down? I wouldn't mind spending $20 if it shaves hours in waiting.

I was returning Saturday around 5 PM, the line was 3.5 - 4 hours long.

Th Border Agents do check, and are well aware of the difference between a Sentri and Passport card. I tried sneaking with the passport card Saturday, and they sent me back. Another tactic is to time yourself to join a a moving line, pretending you have a Sentri and only let the border agent see your card -- they will assume you were already in the line and going through. DON'T let the other folks in the line see your passport card.

The only somewhat legit $20 scenarios is the guy has someone in the line already close to the front and they put you next to that person. I tried it once and it took me an hour to go through. Another time a guy had no one in the line and he just took me to the front of the line and tried to sneak me through, the Border agent and people in the line sent me back -- they guy had disappeared but then reappeared and put us back in the line a bit further, still without anyone in the line. Since then I have stopped paying folks and manage to get through on my own.

If the Omicron variant causes the border to close, it will be a blessing (shorter lines like pre-opening of the border, when only US citizens / residents were allowed to travel for "essential" reasons) -- but I think the economic pressures are such that they will keep the border open.

[BlackThought]

The line is very easily 4 plus hours right now. People are shopping for Christmas. They just let foreigners come into USA 3 weeks ago. Truthfully when planning to catch flight you need to allocate 6 hours of line time if you can't afford to cancel a flight. Because I've waited 4 hours a few times. And the line visually was half it was today for example.

What about those guys offering a spot closer to the front of the line for $20? How much time would that shave down? I wouldn't mind spending $20 if it shaves hours in waiting.

[Captain Solo]

Nothing,

You don't have pay anything to El Capitan.

My wingmen and I would just be delighted to meet a distinguished monger / poster like you.

[Sound7]

Welcome to secondary SENTRI. Warning and so forth. My personal experience when did not mark SENTRI car lanes correctly. Money maker for local. Wanted $20.00 for Lane change. Secondary took for ever. Warning and written consent decree.

I went through the SENTRI lane without a SENTRI card once. They sent me to secondary and gave me a lecture about how, if I did it again, they might impound my car and fine me USD $10,000.

[Dogers69]

Wow if that's the case, I lucked out. Cause the line spanned a few blocks at around 1130 AM. Maybe I should check out earlier my next visit as I have my flight departing San Diego is at 130 PM or get global entry.

The line is very easily 4 plus hours right now. People are shopping for Christmas. They just let foreigners come into USA 3 weeks ago. Truthfully when planning to catch flight you need to allocate 6 hours of line time if you can't afford to cancel a flight. Because I've waited 4 hours a few times. And the line visually was half it was today for example.

[Nothing24]

Nothing.

I was in HK Wednesday night the same time. Would have been fun to meet you.

I noticed business drop off as early as June this year when the chicas kept insisting $100 and Cascada was pushing the $30 room option with 2 drinks. Guys were not taking chicas to hotel as frequently as before. Most girls just hang out all night not bought drinks, not taken upstairs. It's sad but the girls are still trying to push prices higher, like $150 a session.

I have done quite a few girls with low local rates. I would steer the noobs to those girls and ask them to go with those rates. For noobs loaded with too much money, well, I would let them have the pleasure of spoiling their sweethearts hehe.

I might stop by this upcoming Wednesday night again, in case you're there, would love to say Hi and pay my respects to the captain haha.