Stupid Shit in Tijuana

[The Cane]

The Captain was posting in the appropriate threads througout his trip, didin't cause too much of a firestorm. He was posting here because people on this thread were asking his opinions in light of his trip. Most people generally understand that what thrills one person won't do the same for another, including my favorite destination. I much prefer Colombia because of the numerous Venezuelans there, the Venezuelans have a look that I absolutely go for. Yet I appreciate Tijuana for what it has to offer as well, especially living so close to it most of the year.

I just checked out some threads in the Colombia section, and Solo is indeed catching the hell he so richly deserves for the bogus and libelous things he has written about Colombia (Panama too). Like somebody else said, there is something fishy going on here. It just doesn't pass the smell test!

[SeaBeeJoe]

Great story.

But I guess Bob just doesn't get it. Most of us are not lucky enough to look like Bob.

Yes I agree Bob must be a stud. At 51 I am lucky with my looks and body type that any of the HK girls want to go up with me. Luckily I speak Spanish and I am funny, at least I make them laugh. They also say I am good in bed. Well at least they are getting paid $$ LOL.

[LuvMexicanas]

Great story.

But I guess Bob just doesn't get it. Most of us are not lucky enough to look like Bob.

Thanks Baxter. Yeah, Bob is a lucky dude. He definitely won the genetic lottery. Having said that, you don't need to look like Bob to have a damn good time in Tijuana so guys (especially those newer to Tijuana or inexperienced in the hobby) should simply enjoy how easy it is to have sex with a sexy chica with zero strings attached. I will use the classic monger saying, "you pay them to leave. "

[BrotherMouzone]

I feel you and understand the advice. I'm going to try to make it work. If it fails, then at least I tried and the worst that can happen is that it turned me off from mongering. I've come to the realization there are some great people in this world that you can connect with, just have to get time to meet them.

Have read through several of your posts. My opinion. You're very clearly getting played. There are WAY too many red flags with that girl. Don't see how that relationship ends well. Even someone that's a bit naive (which I've certainly been guilty of at certain times in my life) should be able to see what's going on there. With that said, obviously I don't know you or the girl. Just going off of what I've read here. But good luck with whatever you're looking for there. It's not like getting played by women is exclusive to mongers. It's part of the everyday male / female relationship dynamic here in the USA And all over the world as well LOL. But my jaw did drop a bit at some of what you're putting up with and the excuses you've bought from this girl.

I do agree that the discussion about this relationship is better served condensed into one location. I've seen it spill over into several threads at this point.

[Baxter Slade]

There's so much chatter about relationships and what women want. However, this is a muthafuckin monger board. Each of us enjoys the hobby for different reasons. I'll use one of my close buddies as an example. I'll call him Bob. Bob got a girl pregnant in his early 20's. She was in her late teens and decided to have the baby. They got married and had another child a couple years later. They stayed married for well over 20 years, raised the kids and put them through college. They became empty nesters and drifted apart. Long story short, they amicably divorced a little over two years ago. Even at 48, Bob doesn't look a day over 35. He's 6'2 and checks in at a very athletically built 200 pounds. Looks like an NFL corner. Women literally throw themselves at him to the point where it is comical to watch. In any event, he is fully enjoying his new found freedom from any and all responsibilities. After eating the same cereal day after day for 20 plus years, he's gone on a hobby binge with a healthy dose of non-pros mixed in. The commonality between the hookers and the non-pros, Bob fucks them once (maybe twice) and that's it. He is not looking for "chemistry", emotional connection or a woman next to him when he wakes up. He prefers to sleep alone. He also prefers to travel alone because of the total freedom. He wants nothing to do with anything having any semblance to a relationship. He very much lives by the new pussy is his favorite pussy mantra. The way he looks at it is he only has so much lead in his pencil so he plans on having every different kind of cereal possible after having had the same for well over two decades. Bob is not on ISG even though he and I have hobbied together in Tijuana, but I do show him some of the threads from time to time. He read this one and commented, "not sure why them dudes are trying to date hookers."

Great story.

But I guess Bob just doesn't get it. Most of us are not lucky enough to look like Bob.

[DramaFree11]

We are also surprised your ex-wife put up with your narcissistic shit for 20 years and did not get a hit man to pop you. Either shit or get off the pot. Make an honest woman of her (ha ha) or give her details out so other Romeos can bang her fore and aft. And get into therapy.

Well said and I could not agree more. I am all for guys having relationships, I could careless where they meet the girls, but this relationship is a mess.

Also, honestly his post should stop about his crazy ass issues, he needs Therapy. Side note I am totally against Therapy, but in this case, they both need help, probably more so KB.

[LuvMexicanas]

There's so much chatter about relationships and what women want. However, this is a muthafuckin monger board. Each of us enjoys the hobby for different reasons. I'll use one of my close buddies as an example. I'll call him Bob. Bob got a girl pregnant in his early 20's. She was in her late teens and decided to have the baby. They got married and had another child a couple years later. They stayed married for well over 20 years, raised the kids and put them through college. They became empty nesters and drifted apart. Long story short, they amicably divorced a little over two years ago. Even at 48, Bob doesn't look a day over 35. He's 6'2 and checks in at a very athletically built 200 pounds. Looks like an NFL corner. Women literally throw themselves at him to the point where it is comical to watch. In any event, he is fully enjoying his new found freedom from any and all responsibilities. After eating the same cereal day after day for 20 plus years, he's gone on a hobby binge with a healthy dose of non-pros mixed in. The commonality between the hookers and the non-pros, Bob fucks them once (maybe twice) and that's it. He is not looking for "chemistry", emotional connection or a woman next to him when he wakes up. He prefers to sleep alone. He also prefers to travel alone because of the total freedom. He wants nothing to do with anything having any semblance to a relationship. He very much lives by the new pussy is his favorite pussy mantra. The way he looks at it is he only has so much lead in his pencil so he plans on having every different kind of cereal possible after having had the same for well over two decades. Bob is not on ISG even though he and I have hobbied together in Tijuana, but I do show him some of the threads from time to time. He read this one and commented, "not sure why them dudes are trying to date hookers."

[ScottHall]

Then I do not know anyone with a real relationship because all the relationships I know of the guy is the provider.

Sorry to burst your bubble, Scott, but I have had the kind of sex you are having and the kind KB is having, and the kind KB has blows yours away.

And all the guys saying the women just want your money do not get women at all. Men crave money above all else, but women crave safety and security most.

KB's gal was raped by a Mexican guy. My gal breaks into tears when she talks about the father of her daughter. Just thinking about a Latin guy throws these women into PTSD, and there is a lot of abuse and rape and guys getting away with it in the Latin culture. These women want different, and they want safe.

I have heard it all before. The women want hunky, young Latin guys and everyone who thinks differently is a sucker. Sorry, dude, that is not what I saw.

How on Earth do you know what kind of sex another person is having? That's such a weird thing to say. I don't really agree with anything you're saying so we'll just agree to disagree.

[PedroMorales]

She knows I am a violent man, prior service, but those experiences have helped mold me to have more empathy and understanding for people. She likes I can communicate my feelings and follow through with my actions. The way that she takes care of me would be hard to fake as my ex-wife wouldn't cook every meal and clean the house. I am surprised my ex-wife dealt with 20 years of my shit and psychological shit tests I put her through at the beginning of the relationship.

We are also surprised your ex-wife put up with your narcissistic shit for 20 years and did not get a hit man to pop you. Either shit or get off the pot. Make an honest woman of her (ha ha) or give her details out so other Romeos can bang her fore and aft. And get into therapy.

[Big Magick]

Then I do not know anyone with a real relationship because all the relationships I know of the guy is the provider.

Sorry to burst your bubble, Scott, but I have had the kind of sex you are having and the kind KB is having, and the kind KB has blows yours away.

And all the guys saying the women just want your money do not get women at all. Men crave money above all else, but women crave safety and security most.

KB's gal was raped by a Mexican guy. My gal breaks into tears when she talks about the father of her daughter. Just thinking about a Latin guy throws these women into PTSD, and there is a lot of abuse and rape and guys getting away with it in the Latin culture. These women want different, and they want safe.

I have heard it all before. The women want hunky, young Latin guys and everyone who thinks differently is a sucker. Sorry, dude, that is not what I saw.

Elvis is 100% right. Money is always a factor unless you both are teenagers then might be the one exception. I have seen the boyfriends / husbands of some of these pretty bar girls and they are ugly. Women like men for other reasons. Elvis is also right about the sex. I thought I was having good GFE sex at Hong Kong till I started to go out with them and I really felt the passion. Nothing compares to when someone really wants to have sex with you, the difference is obvious and this girl has ruined mongering for me. The standard robotic lays at HK were barely satisfying before her.

[Dickus Maximus]

Then I do not know anyone with a real relationship because all the relationships I know of the guy is the provider.
Sorry to burst your bubble, Scott, but I have had the kind of sex you are having and the kind KB is having, and the kind KB has blows yours away.

Absolutely. All my SB relationships have been better than any experience in HK.

[Member #4730]

Then I do not know anyone with a real relationship because all the relationships I know of the guy is the provider.

Sorry to burst your bubble, Scott, but I have had the kind of sex you are having and the kind KB is having, and the kind KB has blows yours away.

And all the guys saying the women just want your money do not get women at all. Men crave money above all else, but women crave safety and security most.

KB's gal was raped by a Mexican guy. My gal breaks into tears when she talks about the father of her daughter. Just thinking about a Latin guy throws these women into PTSD, and there is a lot of abuse and rape and guys getting away with it in the Latin culture. These women want different, and they want safe.

I have heard it all before. The women want hunky, young Latin guys and everyone who thinks differently is a sucker. Sorry, dude, that is not what I saw.

You are spot on that she told me at the beginning she wanted stability, but I always threatened to leave and the first time was on the Cancun trip where I said a "normal" relationship doesn't involve monetary support. If they are not getting the money from you for their obligations, then they will find a way, even if it means being deceptive. I've asked her numerous times if this relationship is what she really wants at this stage in her life or if continuing to make money to pursue the purchase of rental properties and fix her parents home are what she needs to do. She always says she wants to continue the relationship. As you've elaborated, she was unreal chemistry when we met and confirmed her fetish for my type since reading her texts to other people.

She knows I am a violent man, prior service, but those experiences have helped mold me to have more empathy and understanding for people. She likes I can communicate my feelings and follow through with my actions. The way that she takes care of me would be hard to fake as my ex-wife wouldn't cook every meal and clean the house. I am surprised my ex-wife dealt with 20 years of my shit and psychological shit tests I put her through at the beginning of the relationship.

[Member #4730]

Your comment about guys saying these women just want your money and that we don't get women is completely off base when it comes to these working women in Tijuana. Nine of of ten posters here will tell you this, and they have posted numerous stories that illustrate this. Sure, there are a handful of them that do want safety and security over money, but we all know these are few and far between. Now Kool Beans seems like a great guy and I would love to see his relationship with this girl work. However, there are a couple of red flags that he needs to consider. First of all, paying for her rent and other items in exchange for her not working in the bars is an admirable idea. I can't, however, see myself doing this for a girl that is also texting and arranging dates and claims she doesn't go through with them. This while I am supporting her living conditions. Another red flag to me is the piece about her making $500.00 a day working in Hong Kong, yet she is willing to accept the paltry (which it isn't) amount of money KB is giving her monthly. In my personal experience, using the amount of money she was making is an attempt at raising the bar in line with the negotiation the two have entered into where he will support her in lieu of her working. Part of the bargaining chip process. What will probably happen as time goes on is that the money given to her by KB will never be enough, nor will it compare to what she was making, which will lead to needing more. Been there done that. Listen to the experiences of posters here.

Thanks for more insight, but have to clarify. At the beginning she wanted stability and I did not offer it since I always had one foot out the door due to not wanting to be played and threatening to leave. It put her in between a rock and hard place since I said numerous times that a "normal" relationship doesn't involve me providing monetary support, which they still have monetary obligations to cover. She was fine with it and wanted to stay. I eventually just said Id give her $600 per month and I am going to try to make it work. We never get the full picture of someone until the relationship travels further down the road. She told me about her promise to her family to fix up their home, but she decided to pursue the relationship for her happiness and sanity.

She always had the option to leave for "better opportunities" and I've mentioned her age and earning potential is at their prime, which is kind of fucked up for me to suggest. It is a fine line between trying to be in a relationship and prying too much into past or preferences. I don't judge and I accept what I and she has done. I've told her she shouldn't be ashamed of her past or what she did for a living to survive since we all have different paths in life.

I'll keep everyone updated after the New Year's Eve trip. It could be an epic shit show or we could continue the relationship and figure out if she is able to transfer schools. I understand some don't want to discuss relationships on this forum, but it is good insight from other bros that have been down this path. When I met her she was on the top of my experiences from all over the world and the connection was unreal. I think that is the part of the reason I don't seek action in HK as she ruined it for me as it was epic every time we met. I was oblivious and thought she was this wonderful to everyone, but who knows she might have been. We would do multiple TLNs and she never asked me for money and said compensation is up to me. I just gave what I thought was reasonable. Most of the regulars tell me whatever I can help with and could range from $100-$400 depending on length of trip.

I wouldn't suggest trying to pursue a relationship with a sex worker, and I certainly didn't expect it. Everything could have been fine as an arrangement, but then she started involving me with her friends, family, and cousins. It has been eye opening experience that has helped me reflect on what I want at this stage in life and tolerance level. I think they value being genuine and honest compared to the many people they meet. She always asks if I miss the club and I say no, which is honest, but I do miss watching the shows.

At first she thought I was married and didn't want to disrupt me, but we've taken numerous trips all over Mexico and it has been a great experience the last 6 months of this year. Prior to going to Tijuana, it felt like ground hogs day everyday where I'd wake up, work from home, workout, and sleep. The trips with the chicas has been fun and good value compared to SoCal providers and I wouldn't change a thing.

Hope you guys have a great holiday season with your loved ones and if you're heading to any monger destinations, then have fun as well and stay safe.

[RikyMichaels7]

Then I do not know anyone with a real relationship because all the relationships I know of the guy is the provider.

Sorry to burst your bubble, Scott, but I have had the kind of sex you are having and the kind KB is having, and the kind KB has blows yours away.

And all the guys saying the women just want your money do not get women at all. Men crave money above all else, but women crave safety and security most.

KB's gal was raped by a Mexican guy. My gal breaks into tears when she talks about the father of her daughter. Just thinking about a Latin guy throws these women into PTSD, and there is a lot of abuse and rape and guys getting away with it in the Latin culture. These women want different, and they want safe.

I have heard it all before. The women want hunky, young Latin guys and everyone who thinks differently is a sucker. Sorry, dude, that is not what I saw.

Your comment about guys saying these women just want your money and that we don't get women is completely off base when it comes to these working women in Tijuana. Nine of of ten posters here will tell you this, and they have posted numerous stories that illustrate this. Sure, there are a handful of them that do want safety and security over money, but we all know these are few and far between. Now Kool Beans seems like a great guy and I would love to see his relationship with this girl work. However, there are a couple of red flags that he needs to consider. First of all, paying for her rent and other items in exchange for her not working in the bars is an admirable idea. I can't, however, see myself doing this for a girl that is also texting and arranging dates and claims she doesn't go through with them. This while I am supporting her living conditions. Another red flag to me is the piece about her making $500.00 a day working in Hong Kong, yet she is willing to accept the paltry (which it isn't) amount of money KB is giving her monthly. In my personal experience, using the amount of money she was making is an attempt at raising the bar in line with the negotiation the two have entered into where he will support her in lieu of her working. Part of the bargaining chip process. What will probably happen as time goes on is that the money given to her by KB will never be enough, nor will it compare to what she was making, which will lead to needing more. Been there done that. Listen to the experiences of posters here.

[Elvis 2008]

It's not a real girlfriend or relationship if he's paying her. A real relationship has nothing to do with money.

Then I do not know anyone with a real relationship because all the relationships I know of the guy is the provider.

This guy isn't the only one getting good lays in Tijuana. We're all living out our greatest fantasies but most can realize it's not reality and move on. It's an act and these girls are pros at it.

Sorry to burst your bubble, Scott, but I have had the kind of sex you are having and the kind KB is having, and the kind KB has blows yours away.

And all the guys saying the women just want your money do not get women at all. Men crave money above all else, but women crave safety and security most.

KB's gal was raped by a Mexican guy. My gal breaks into tears when she talks about the father of her daughter. Just thinking about a Latin guy throws these women into PTSD, and there is a lot of abuse and rape and guys getting away with it in the Latin culture. These women want different, and they want safe.

I have heard it all before. The women want hunky, young Latin guys and everyone who thinks differently is a sucker. Sorry, dude, that is not what I saw.