Pattaya Reports

[Tomasb]

If this was the Delta variant, they may have taken a different tack but due to the incredible high rate of transmission of Omicron I am not optimistic they will lift the current quarantine 7 day plan. If so, that decision or non-decision will kill the remaining winter tourist season. See'est La vie. (It’s really annoying you can’t even write French expressions properly on here)

About 350 Omicron cases have been reported under the test and go scheme according to the Thaiger. The Thai government would probably quote this as a reason why not to continue test and go.

However, the test and go was seeing 10,000 arrivals a day. So the overall positivity rate was something like 0. 1 %. If you tested the general Thai population the positivity rate would probably be 10 times higher at 1%.

So it doesn't really make sense to suspend the program when your average thrice tested tourist is 10 times less likely to be positive than your local. But TIT. This is thailand.

[Member #4753]

About 350 Omicron cases have been reported under the test and go scheme according to the Thaiger. The Thai government would probably quote this as a reason why not to continue test and go.

However, the test and go was seeing 10,000 arrivals a day. So the overall positivity rate was something like 0. 1 %. If you tested the general Thai population the positivity rate would probably be 10 times higher at 1%.

So it doesn't really make sense to suspend the program when your average thrice tested tourist is 10 times less likely to be positive than your local. But TIT. This is thailand.

[Quest78]

Currently going thru the Test and Go (got my Thailand Pass Test & Go before they shut it down) as per usual the Thai higher ups don't really know what they are doing. Before you hit immigration at BKK, there is a QR code with a list of testing sites for "your free" 2nd Rapid PCR test and a new quarantine form you need to take with you on your appointment. Your hotel at 5 or 6 day should set you up with an appointment. But the hotel staff are confused as we are. Go to tatnews. Org for the latest announcements. Hope this helps.

[Tomasb]

Same here as I was procrastinating on the deadline knowing the PM was going to make an announcement prior to Christmas in regards to Omicron. I did not want to get stuck with a non refundable AIR BnB place, or health insurance, or an ASQ hotels who took months to provide a refund. However, I did not calculate that the PM would "grandfather" in anyone who had already received a code. Which, if you think about it, is kind of ridiculous as they are going to permit at 90 k people in, according to their estimates, and cut off anyone else contemplating going to Thailand. How many of those 90 k will catch omicron coming in and not be detected?

I am not expecting any change in the policy on January 4th so unless there is another change by Mid February, I don't see Thailand being in the cards for me this winter. Airfares are also jumping astronomically, at least from the US. One consolation is I have been watching YouTube videos on Bangkok nightlife and the fun factor pales compared to days gone by. With much of the late night activities curtailed, it does not seem as much fun as it used to be. I used to love cruising and walking Suk in the early morning hours, not even to monger but just taking in the scene. That is not an option this winter, I am afraid.

My Test and Go hotel had conflicting information. Their website said I get an ATK self test kit, but the menu of items provided at online purchase checkout did not list it nor did it list any food to be provided for the first day. Doesn't matter for me, I missed the deadline to get the QR code. Now I'm considering Phuket sandbox or not going to Thailand until things improve.

[HorseTrader]

For fun I checked my pre-Dec 22 AQ Test and Go hotel email and mine says I get an ATK self test kit too!

My Test and Go hotel had conflicting information. Their website said I get an ATK self test kit, but the menu of items provided at online purchase checkout did not list it nor did it list any food to be provided for the first day. Doesn't matter for me, I missed the deadline to get the QR code. Now I'm considering Phuket sandbox or not going to Thailand until things improve.

[Banana Boi]

You could be right Banana Boi, even though the confirmation letter that I got from my hotel for my Test & Go booking mentioned this antigen test kit. And I am fully vaccinated and from one of the 63 countries.

For fun I checked my pre-Dec 22 AQ Test and Go hotel email and mine says I get an ATK self test kit too!

[XXL]

In the Test and Go program (that is now suspended) they said you would receive a self test kit, if the PCR-test upon entry came back negative. With this test kit you were supposed to test yourself after 5 or 6 days, but I have never received this kit either when I was in Bangkok in November. Nor did I hear anyone say anything about it.

The ASQ hotel where you booked your 1-day quarantine was supposed to provide you with the kit. The kit was in the package "1 hotel night + PCR + transport from airport + self-test kit". Maybe the hotel wanted to save on the self-test since from now on you're required to do a 2nd PCR-test.

[Ass Addict]

Thai ladies have an odd approach to sex with Farangs. From their perspective, sex with Farangs doesn't count.
This is Thailand.

You're surrounded by dumbass Thai bargirls every day and it seems that you listen and believe to whatever they say. You're generalizing their behavior with the one of every Thai ladies. Either you're as dumb as they are or you pretend to be so.

[Member #4753]

I attached the original Test and Go scheme from Nov 1. My comments were for fully vaccinated people from one of the 63 countries. There is no mention of a 2nd test. A second test was required for those fully vaccinated from a country other than the 63 exempt countries or for someone who is unvaccinated.

I only double checked because I had not remembered reading about a 2nd test and was seeing if I missed something. For all the hours I spent reading Thaiger, Royal Thai Government Gazette, and AN as well as watching Jay, Jett, Natty, and Jang on Youtube I was questioning my learning skills at my old age!

Anyways, all irrelevant now!

On the 22nd of December they suspended new applications for test and go and sandbox schemes (except Phuket).

All people that has already been given a Thai pass or had already lodged the Thai pass application could still come to Thailand, however a new condition was added to the test and go. And that is the second test of day 5.

So yes, if you arrived before 22nd on test and go there was just 1 test. If you are arriving after 22nd there are now 2 tests.

[Mogwai]

You could be right Banana Boi, even though the confirmation letter that I got from my hotel for my Test & Go booking mentioned this antigen test kit. And I am fully vaccinated and from one of the 63 countries.

[PedroMorales]

Data is suggesting you are around 75% less likely to be hospitalised if you get Omnicron V Delta. And when hospitilzied your chance of being put into ICU is very small.

Source: Dr. John Campbell, probably one of the best, unbiased specialists in this field. (good youtube channel).

John Campbell is am English nurse, who did a PhD in hospital management. He is not a medical physician and nor is he a specialist. He does, tbf, put in the hours tracking Covid and commenting on same.

Robert F Kennedy Jnr is likewise not a specialist. However, if you even listen to the acknowledgements to his Dr Fauci book here, you can see he has some very serious connections.

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The guy who shared that link with me said Kennedy had even more serious backers, global household names he named but, if I repeated them it would derail any conversation, needlessly at this point. I was going to post a link Jimmy Dore did with RFK Jnr but Dore has removed the video.

I don't have sufficient information to decide on all these things and nor do I have sufficient trust in Fauci and his co-conspirators. However, I am interested in your travails as I have lost st least 6-8 flights / vacations during this Covid madness, with another two flights lost next month.

For those of you criticizing the flip flops of the Thai authorities, things are much worse in Europe. Where the irresponsible British cannot be consistent from one day to the next.

My take away from this threat and the boomerang backlashes you are all suffering from these flip flops is to sit tight, and not so much ride out the Coviod storm as forget about it all and try to develop a new life in this fascistic new normal we are being subjected to.

[Banana Boi]

I attached the original Test and Go scheme from Nov 1. My comments were for fully vaccinated people from one of the 63 countries. There is no mention of a 2nd test. A second test was required for those fully vaccinated from a country other than the 63 exempt countries or for someone who is unvaccinated.

I only double checked because I had not remembered reading about a 2nd test and was seeing if I missed something. For all the hours I spent reading Thaiger, Royal Thai Government Gazette, and AN as well as watching Jay, Jett, Natty, and Jang on Youtube I was questioning my learning skills at my old age!

Anyways, all irrelevant now!

[Mogwai]

So now even vaccinated in quarantine??I thought they wanted to help the travel and tourist industry, not like this.

They did, but Omicron ruined everything.

[Mogwai]

There was no 2nd test on the 5th day when you landed for your Test and Go. That is new.

I remember reading somewhere in the QR program that you were supposed to do a self test on the 5th day, at least that's what my foggy memory tells me after jumping through all of the hoops. If that was the case I never received anything after the test upon landing came back negative. The just wanted to be done with me and get onto the next guest behind their plastic screens.

In the Test and Go program (that is now suspended) they said you would receive a self test kit, if the PCR-test upon entry came back negative. With this test kit you were supposed to test yourself after 5 or 6 days, but I have never received this kit either when I was in Bangkok in November. Nor did I hear anyone say anything about it.

[Explorer8939]

Thai ladies have an odd approach to sex with Farangs. From their perspective, sex with Farangs doesn't count. I know married Thai ladies for sneak out to fuck Farangs, and from their perspective, If they fuck a Farang for money, it doesn't count. However, if they fuck a Thai man for free, that is cheating on their husband. If they fuck a Thai man for money, they are working girls. If they fuck a Farang for free, that is very bad.

If they fuck a Thai karaoke boy and give him money, that is very bad if she is married. If she is single and pays a Thai boy, other ladies will laugh, but are secretly jealous.

If a Thai lady has a Farang living with her, but she hooks up with a Thai man on the side, that is 100% normal. If she lives with a Farang, but fucks other Farangs for money, well, a lady has to make a living. No shame there.

But, if the Farang goes with another Thai lady, it's the end of the fucking world.

This is Thailand.